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Allocated seating Ryanair, why queue?

  • 12-08-2014 12:38pm
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    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,236 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    So currently waiting to get on a Ryanair flight, sitting down reading Boards on free wifi. Looking around there are 18 people sitting waiting for boarding and well over 120 I'd say queuing! Why would you queue now when you have an allocated seat? It's baffling, they've even announced it's allocated seating.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Staplor


    Leave them off to queue if it makes them happy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    It's possible that they want to guarantee that there will be room for their hand luggage in the cabin. It's more likely that it's a mixture of idiots and sheep.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 228 ✭✭Phil_Lives


    I waited to board on Sunday but couldn't find a place for my soft cabin luggage near my seat. I had to put the bag further up the cabin and as a result was one of the last people to get off the plane and last to go through Customs.
    It'll be going in front of my feet in my seat in future.
    Before the rule changes for boarding I used to be last on sitting in one of the rearmost seats with the bag behind the last row of seats.
    those solid suitcases really do eat up space in the lockers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Joekers


    Yeah we travelled with Ryanair last week and we queued up because we wanted to make sure we kept our hand luggage with us as it had some valuable items inside and didn't want to risk it getting tossed around down under the plane, we were told only the first 90 pieces of luggage could come on board everything else would go under with the rest of the checked in luggage


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,236 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Yeah it could be for the baggage space, I'm not too worried if my bag goes in the hold or that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Phil_Lives wrote: »
    I waited to board on Sunday but couldn't find a place for my soft cabin luggage near my seat. I had to put the bag further up the cabin and as a result was one of the last people to get off the plane and last to go through Customs.
    It'll be going in front of my feet in my seat in future.
    Before the rule changes for boarding I used to be last on sitting in one of the rearmost seats with the bag behind the last row of seats.
    those solid suitcases really do eat up space in the lockers.

    I recently got a smaller suitcase for this reason.
    Still fits everything I need and don't have to worry about trying to find somewhere in an overhead locker for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 228 ✭✭Phil_Lives


    Caliden wrote: »
    I recently got a smaller suitcase for this reason.
    Still fits everything I need and don't have to worry about trying to find somewhere in an overhead locker for it.
    space was tight flying out but I could squish my bag in but just no space at all on the way back. A smaller bag wouldn't have helped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭johnnyruane40


    OP, I think you may be confused. Personally, I feel that Ryanair don't offer allocated seating, its more of a scramble to get the best seats. That's just my opinion though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,336 ✭✭✭✭km79


    OP, I think you may be confused. Personally, I feel that Ryanair don't offer allocated seating, its more of a scramble to get the best seats. That's just my opinion though.

    they do now but most people still seem unaware of this and decide to queue and sit in whatever seat they want ! they then have to be moved ..../


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭johnnyruane40


    km79 wrote: »
    they do now but most people still seem unaware of this and decide to queue and sit in whatever seat they want ! they then have to be moved ..../
    That's your opinion on the topic. My personal opinion is that they don't actually offer this service on all Ryanair flights, only the "priority boarding" people can reserve particular seats.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,336 ✭✭✭✭km79


    That's your opinion on the topic. My personal opinion is that they don't actually offer this service on all Ryanair flights, only the "priority boarding" people can reserve particular seats.

    I don't understand ? every Ryanair flight now makes you check in online and your boarding pass contains your seat number ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭Justin10


    That's your opinion on the topic. My personal opinion is that they don't actually offer this service on all Ryanair flights, only the "priority boarding" people can reserve particular seats.

    You are automatically reserved a seat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭A2LUE42


    That's your opinion on the topic. My personal opinion is that they don't actually offer this service on all Ryanair flights, only the "priority boarding" people can reserve particular seats.

    All the seating is now assigned. But some people cannot seem to fathom the concept or seem unable to read their boarding pass to see that it has a seat number on it.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,236 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    They also announced twice to the big queue of people queuing that all seats are allocated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    I flew out of Luton in May and there was a long queue when we arrived at the gate. The plane hadn't even arrived yet so we sat down. They counted the bags in the queue and sorted out any over the 90 allowed and by the time we joined the queue to board that was all finished and we got our bags on no problem. We found space for them on board pretty easily too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    That's your opinion on the topic. My personal opinion is that they don't actually offer this service on all Ryanair flights, only the "priority boarding" people can reserve particular seats.

    You don't get to have an opinion on this. It is a matter of fact, not opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,336 ✭✭✭✭km79


    A2LUE42 wrote: »
    All the seating is now assigned. But some people cannot seem to fathom the concept or seem unable to read their boarding pass to see that it has a seat number on it.

    this is what I was saying too......I've travelled 3 times with Ryan air since it was brought in. the amount of people who have had to be told to move is incomprehensible YOUR SEAT NUMBET IS ON THAT BIT OF PAPER IN YOUR HAND!!!! or on your phone/tablet :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭johnnyruane40


    You don't get to have an opinion on this. It is a matter of fact, not opinion.
    I have experiences, and my last experience on a Ryanair flight was that only Priority Boarders were able to reserve allocated seats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    I have experiences, and my last experience on a Ryanair flight was that only Priority Boarders were able to reserve allocated seats.

    I suspect that your experience is out of date.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭Grandpa Hassan


    I normally buy an exit seat, so get priority boarding, but if I didn't there are two reasons I'd queue.

    1: If there are no seats in the waiting area, why not stand in a queue instead of stand somewhere not in the queue? Personally, if there are no seats left, I'd sit on my rollerbag in the queue rather than sit on my rollerbag somewhere on the concourse

    2: I've been separated from my bag before, when I was last on the plane. It is an absolute pain in the ***. On an easyjet flight recently, everyone beyond X place in the queue had their bags taken off them to get checked in. meaning a long wait at the other side.

    Why would you not queue? It makes life easier. I don't get why people stand in a queue. Why not sit!? IMO, the only people who moan about the 'queuers' are the people who get annoyed about the fact that they weren't early enough to get in the queue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,053 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    I have experiences, and my last experience on a Ryanair flight was that only Priority Boarders were able to reserve allocated seats.

    That is no longer the case and has not been for a while.

    The reason for the queue is that, since the introduction of the free second bag, the first 90 passengers are guaranteed to get their hand luggage on board allowing for an easy escape at the other end. If you don't queue you have to get your bags separately after the flight.

    Personally I wish they'd get strict on hand luggage allowances again. It is geting back to the stage where people are really taking the pi$$ and clogging up the cabin with all their crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭johnnyruane40


    the first 90 passengers are guaranteed to get their hand luggage on board allowing for an easy escape at the other end. If you don't queue you have to get your bags separately after the flight.
    That's incorrect, only bags that are checked in have to be collected separately after the flight. Every passenger can bring on a bag. Where do you get your information from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    That's incorrect, only bags that are checked in have to be collected separately after the flight. Every passenger can bring on a bag. Where do you get your information from?

    Seriously? Once again...
    Due to cabin space limitations only 90 large cabin bags (55 x 40 x 20 cms) can be carried in the cabin, any remainder will be carried free of charge in the aircraft hold.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    That's incorrect, only bags that are checked in have to be collected separately after the flight. Every passenger can bring on a bag. Where do you get your information from?

    When is the last time you've actually flown with Ryanair???? :confused:

    EVERY passenger is allocated a seat, that's not my opinion, it's a fact :rolleyes:

    EVERY hand luggage bag after the first 90 are put into the hold to be collected at the end of the flight .............. again not my opinion, a fact :rolleyes:

    You would save yourself some embarrassment here if you checked your facts on the Ryanair website ;)

    What confuses me is why some people still pay for Priority Boarding??? Mr. O'Leary probably can't believe his luck that some people are still paying for it!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭johnnyruane40


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    When is the last time you've actually flown with Ryanair???? :confused:

    EVERY passenger is allocated a seat, that's not my opinion, it's a fact :rolleyes:

    EVERY hand luggage bag after the first 90 are put into the hold to be collected at the end of the flight .............. again not my opinion, a fact :rolleyes:

    You would save yourself some embarrassment here if you checked your facts on the Ryanair website ;)

    What confuses me is why some people still pay for Priority Boarding??? Mr. O'Leary probably can't believe his luck that some people are still paying for it!!

    How could they work out the logistics of allocating every single passenger a seat? What if a family needs to sit next to one another? would they have to pay extra to guarantee this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭Mousewar


    MadDog76 wrote: »

    What confuses me is why some people still pay for Priority Boarding??? Mr. O'Leary probably can't believe his luck that some people are still paying for it!!

    Presumably so they can be sure of getting their bag into the bins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,514 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    How could they work out the logistics of allocating every single passenger a seat? What if a family needs to sit next to one another? would they have to pay extra to guarantee this?
    What does pretty much every other airline do?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Mousewar wrote: »
    Presumably so they can be sure of getting their bag into the bins.

    I suppose .............. maybe that is a concern of some people, never been concerned myself, as long as it goes on the plane I'm happy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭hblock21


    How could they work out the logistics of allocating every single passenger a seat? What if a family needs to sit next to one another? would they have to pay extra to guarantee this?

    Passenger A gets Seat 1
    Passenger B gets Seat 2
    Passenger C gets Seat 3
    etc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭Mousewar


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    I suppose .............. maybe that is a concern of some people, never been concerned myself, as long as it goes on the plane I'm happy

    Well I usually just sit until the queue is gone but on my last flight I did think 'Crap, they're gonna stick my bag in the hold'. It's a soft bag with breakables in it so I didn't fancy the crew tossing it about and then waiting all day to get it again on the other end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    It's the same with full fare airlines who have always had allocated seating. Mad queues to get onto the plane. I'm usually relaxing at the the gate with a beer and among the last one to go on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭Mousewar


    Ive only flown with Ryanair and not in the past year so can you just excuse me for my lack of up to date knowledge.

    Only if you try harder to not be wrong all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭fionny


    Ive only flown with Ryanair and not in the past year so can you just excuse me for my lack of up to date knowledge.

    Then don't contradict peoples correct information if you cannot speak from a place of knowledge.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,575 Mod ✭✭✭✭dory


    Back on topic please. Less of the bickering. Infractions for those who decide not to discuss the topic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭DavyD_83


    How could they work out the logistics of allocating every single passenger a seat? What if a family needs to sit next to one another? would they have to pay extra to guarantee this?

    Are you implying that ryanair would not have a full list of people flying...?
    Yep, current system is if you want to pick your seat in advance, you pay extra. If you want a randomly selected seat at online check in (within 14days of flight), you are asssigned one by the system.

    You are either a perfect example of the problem, or a surprisingly successful troll. (Dammit, I hate getting sucked in by these things)


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Mousewar wrote: »
    Well I usually just sit until the queue is gone but on my last flight I did think 'Crap, they're gonna stick my bag in the hold'. It's a soft bag with breakables in it so I didn't fancy the crew tossing it about and then waiting all day to get it again on the other end.

    My cabin baggage always fits under the seat in front of me so I wait and watch the queue frenzy.
    Of course for most Ryanair flights, the first queue is just to be first to queue again further down, which is even more amusing, especially when you consider some have paid extra to be first in the first queue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭Grandpa Hassan


    spurious wrote: »
    My cabin baggage always fits under the seat in front of me so I wait and watch the queue frenzy.
    Of course for most Ryanair flights, the first queue is just to be first to queue again further down, which is even more amusing, especially when you consider some have paid extra to be first in the first queue.

    If you're over 6 foot, like me, you can't fit your baggage under the seat in front of you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭chasm


    When i flew back from crete a couple of months ago lots of passengers had yellow stickers put on their hand luggage after they checked in. These passengers had to put their bags into the hold - although a few were allowed in the cabin. I assumed they issued these once the first 90 passengers had shown up on their system as checked in online or at the airport ?

    From reading elsewhere online different airports seem to apply different systems - some just walk down the queue at the boarding gate looking for "volunteers" or any large cases and yellow tag them. There was a lot of queueing on both legs of my journey, and one couple in Dublin managed to hold up half the plane by boarding from the front, despite the fact they were seated beside me and my ticket clearly stated to board from the rear! They finally got seated and then moaned for about an hour about how bad the allocated seating system was lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭Penalty


    MadDog76 wrote: »

    What confuses me is why some people still pay for Priority Boarding??? Mr. O'Leary probably can't believe his luck that some people are still paying for it!!

    Priority boarding is included in the premium pre booked seats ie the first 5 rows and possibly the exit rows


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    chasm wrote: »
    When i flew back from crete a couple of months ago lots of passengers had yellow stickers put on their hand luggage after they checked in. These passengers had to put their bags into the hold - although a few were allowed in the cabin. I assumed they issued these once the first 90 passengers had shown up on their system as checked in online or at the airport ?

    From reading elsewhere online different airports seem to apply different systems - some just walk down the queue at the boarding gate looking for "volunteers" or any large cases and yellow tag them. There was a lot of queueing on both legs of my journey, and one couple in Dublin managed to hold up half the plane by boarding from the front, despite the fact they were seated beside me and my ticket clearly stated to board from the rear! They finally got seated and then moaned for about an hour about how bad the allocated seating system was lol


    When we flew back from Tenerife last month, the staff asked each person as they checked the boarding pass if they wanted to put any of their hand luggage in the storage free of charge so we put our small suitcase in and kept the backpack which would fit at our feet anyway. So handy!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭Gatica


    How could they work out the logistics of allocating every single passenger a seat? What if a family needs to sit next to one another? would they have to pay extra to guarantee this?

    That's how they make their money, if people didn't care where they sat they would just go with Ryanair's random allocation (no need to point out it's not actually "random"), otherwise they pay to sit beside their 3 year old or life partner or whatever...
    There's been a thread on that in the forum.
    chasm wrote: »
    I assumed they issued these once the first 90 passengers had shown up on their system as checked in online or at the airport ?

    It's not order of ticketing, it's order of boarding. The first people onto the plane get first dibs on cabin space. There are still inconsiderate people who bring their carry-on + carry-on sized "handbag" and put both in the overhead bin (happens lots on other airlines, don't know if Ryanair lets them get away with this as well). Then anyone with carry-on that doesn't fit under the seat in front when the bins are full have their bags checked and have to be collected off the carousel.
    On a recent flight my husband had his luggage taken to be checked in, but as it turned out there were 4 free spaces near the back where we were sitting. That was even more annoying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭bungaro79


    anyone notice the people who sit at the back of the plane but put their hand luggage in the first possible overhead locker they can at the front as they walk on?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭Grandpa Hassan


    bungaro79 wrote: »
    anyone notice the people who sit at the back of the plane but put their hand luggage in the first possible overhead locker they can at the front as they walk on?!

    It is incredibly irritating. But the cabin crew stop people doing that it if they see them, and tell the passenger to take their luggage to where they are sitting. Is supposedly to aid identification if there is a crash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭Gatica


    haven't seen it myself but someone on boards boasted about it before on a thread, saying it was a great idea and that it meant they didn't have to carry the bag back or risk running out of space near their seat. There are words for that kind of person :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭abbir


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    EVERY hand luggage bag after the first 90 are put into the hold to be collected at the end of the flight .............. again not my opinion, a fact :rolleyes:

    I wouldn't call that one a fact, not every hand luggage bag after the first 90 are put into the hold. Only the ones that are too large to go under the seat in front of you. The bag I travel with, always fits there and I'm usually one of the last to get on the plane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭Intifada


    Probably because of the number of selfish goons that aren't able to contain their hand luggage to the area immediately above them, causing other people to walk halfway down the plane to put theirs away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    abbir wrote: »
    I wouldn't call that one a fact, not every hand luggage bag after the first 90 are put into the hold. Only the ones that are too large to go under the seat in front of you. The bag I travel with, always fits there and I'm usually one of the last to get on the plane.

    They don't always let the first 90 people go on with both bags and then only start telling the 91st person onwards to check their bag(s). I've seen them start at the top of the boarding queue & see how many bags are in each party of travelers. If every single one of them has two bags, they'll be told to they have to check some of their bags (generally the bigger ones) and take the rest on board.

    Happened to me only last week. There was a family of two parents and three kids behind me in the queue. They had 10 bags between them. Even though they were up near the top of the queue & were well amongst the first 90 passengers, the staff told them that at least three of the bags had to go into the hold. They got to pick which three, but three had to go. They moved down the whole queue and the whole queue got the same treatment. People traveling on their own or in couples generally got left alone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭jaymcg91


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    They don't always let the first 90 people go on with both bags and then only start telling the 91st person onwards to check their bag(s). I've seen them start at the top of the boarding queue & see how many bags are in each party of travelers. If every single one of them has two bags, they'll be told to they have to check some of their bags (generally the bigger ones) and take the rest on board.

    Happened to me only last week. There was a family of two parents and three kids behind me in the queue. They had 10 bags between them. Even though they were up near the top of the queue & were well amongst the first 90 passengers, the staff told them that at least three of the bags had to go into the hold. They got to pick which three, but three had to go. They moved down the whole queue and the whole queue got the same treatment. People traveling on their own or in couples generally got left alone.

    That sounds incredibly fair. Good for Ryanair.

    Quick question, I've paid the seat allocation for a flight I'm taking next week, do people follow the seat allocation? Or will I have to ask people to move? I haven't flown with them since January, so I just missed these new rules!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    jaymcg91 wrote: »
    That sounds incredibly fair. Good for Ryanair.

    Quick question, I've paid the seat allocation for a flight I'm taking next week, do people follow the seat allocation? Or will I have to ask people to move? I haven't flown with them since January, so I just missed these new rules!

    Yes they follow seat allocation.

    If they are in your seat ask them to move, if they refuse then get the air hostess to move them for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    It is incredibly irritating. But the cabin crew stop people doing that it if they see them, and tell the passenger to take their luggage to where they are sitting. Is supposedly to aid identification if there is a crash.

    Rubbish, its to get people off the plane faster.


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