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Couple die after taking selfie on cliff side.

  • 11-08-2014 10:00am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭


    http://m.rte.ie/news/touch//2014/0811/636373-selfies-portugal/

    Jeepers. Selfie culture has permeated every facet of society seemingly but now it's played a part in tragic deaths.

    From the article-

    "Portuguese authorities are investigating the deaths of a Polish couple who fell from a cliff in Cabo da Roca on Saturday.
    The couple were with their children at the time and investigators say they were taking selfies when they fell.
    Rescue workers had to give up their attempts to recover the bodies from the Atlantic Ocean on Saturday night due to weather conditions and resumed the search yesterday.
    Both bodies were found yesterday morning, the National Authority for Civil Protection confirmed."


    It's obviously tragic, but are people that obsessed with selfies that they'll endanger their lives?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    Yes - people will stupidly endanger their life for likes on Facebook. A sad reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    Darwin awards nominee


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    As sad as it is, it does read like a gag from Hot Shots Part Deux.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭sadie06


    The poor children. What a traumatic thing to happen to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    dan1895 wrote: »
    Darwin awards nominee

    Might be a bit much tbh this time around looks like their kids watched them fall to their deaths from the impression of the article. Utterly stupid of em to be taking them at a cliff but sadly their mistake cost them their lives and left their kids orphaned.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    dan1895 wrote: »
    Darwin awards nominee

    The have children already so dont fit the darwin awards.
    The Darwin Awards are a tongue-in-cheek honor, originating in Usenet newsgroup discussions circa 1985. They recognize individuals who have supposedly contributed to human evolution by self-selecting themselves out of the gene pool via death or sterilization by their own (unnecessarily foolish) actions.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_Awards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    dan1895 wrote: »
    Darwin awards nominee

    Too late. They have already bred…


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    dan1895 wrote: »
    Darwin awards nominee

    Why? They already reproduced.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Now we've got the token tragic bit out of the way, let's bitch about Facebook for hundreds of pages


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Brego888


    This story has less to do with selfies and more to do with two idiots.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    They were taking a holiday photo and fell tragically to their deaths. People never took holiday photos in the pre-Facebook days? The scornful derision of modern culture that we all enjoy so much isn't particularly apt here. Poor kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,900 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    The have children already so dont fit the darwin awards.
    mad muffin wrote: »
    Too late. They have already bred…
    Incorrect, Darwin Awards are still awarded to people who already have children: http://www.darwinawards.com/rules/rules.children.html.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    They were taking a holiday photo and fell tragically to their deaths. People never took holiday photos in the pre-Facebook days? The scornful derision of modern culture that we all enjoy so much isn't particularly apt here. Poor kids.

    The internet has made us jaded…


    *goes back to Facebook*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    28064212 wrote: »
    Incorrect, Darwin Awards are still awarded to people who already have children: http://www.darwinawards.com/rules/rules.children.html.

    Then it's a stupid award. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid…


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭daRobot


    It's easy to call anyone an idiot after an accident happens, especially from behind your computer where it's easy to dehumanise them. But go to the funeral and shout that out, and see the reaction you get.

    Yes, they made a huge error by not considering the clear and obvious danger of the cliff. My guess is that they were repositioning themselves for their picture, walking backwards, and misjudged the edge and both went over.

    For the "he he, darwin awards" guy.... Shame on you. Children watched their parents fall off a cliff, in what will be an utterly tragic, traumatic event that will likely impact the rest of their young lives, and you choose to make a glib response like that...

    RIP to both, and hopefully the kids have loving family to guide them through this horror.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    daRobot wrote: »
    It's easy to call anyone an idiot after an accident happens, especially from behind your computer where it's easy to dehumanise them. But go to the funeral and shout that out, and see the reaction you get.


    I've overheard a lot worse said at funerals tbh. I think anyone's first reaction on reading this story would be "WTF were this pair of idiots thinking?".

    Yes, they made a huge error by not considering the clear and obvious danger of the cliff. My guess is that they were repositioning themselves for their picture, walking backwards, and misjudged the edge and both went over.


    This wasn't a huge error, I've made huge errors. This was fatal stupidity, and it cost these two people their lives. How does a grown adult not consider the clear and obvious danger of standing on a cliff edge?


    For the "he he, darwin awards" guy.... Shame on you. Children watched their parents fall off a cliff, in what will be an utterly tragic, traumatic event that will likely impact the rest of their young lives, and you choose to make a glib response like that...


    Their parents are the only people at fault for putting their children in that position, nobody else, and there's nothing to be gained from trying to guilt trip anyone else.

    RIP to both, and hopefully the kids have loving family to guide them through this horror.


    Hopefully those relatives have more cop on than their deceased relatives and they won't think taking selfies on cliff edges is more important than teaching their children the dangers of abandoning common sense in favor of vanity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭daRobot


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    I've overheard a lot worse said at funerals tbh. I think anyone's first reaction on reading this story would be "WTF were this pair of idiots thinking?".





    This wasn't a huge error, I've made huge errors. This was fatal stupidity, and it cost these two people their lives. How does a grown adult not consider the clear and obvious danger of standing on a cliff edge?






    Their parents are the only people at fault for putting their children in that position, nobody else, and there's nothing to be gained from trying to guilt trip anyone else.





    Hopefully those relatives have more cop on than their deceased relatives and they won't think taking selfies on cliff edges is more important than teaching their children the dangers of abandoning common sense in favor of vanity.

    You're only responding in such a pedantic manner, due to me calling you out the amateur psychologist nonsense you peddle on this site.

    But it gives me satistfaction to know I rattled your cage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    daRobot wrote: »
    You're only responding in such a pedantic manner, due to me calling you out the amateur psychologist nonsense you peddle on this site.

    But it gives me satistfaction know I rattled your cage.


    Ya wha'?


    You fell off that moral high ground fairly quickly!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    You fell off that moral high ground fairly quickly!

    He was taking a moral selfie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    RIP

    But I really don't get the obsession with "selfies", particularly for adults (I understand teens being all vain or making stupid faces). They generally look pretty crap, a big stupid close up of your face and can barely see the background.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Yes - people will stupidly endanger their life for likes on Facebook. A sad reality.

    People were taking pictures of themselves long before the internet, never mind Facebook.

    It's not a new phenomenon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    People were taking pictures of themselves long before the internet, never mind Facebook.

    It's not a new phenomenon.

    Exactly, and furthermore, it couldn't possibly happen if someone else was taking the photo. It's all because of the 'selfie'.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    TBH I'm caught between "terrible tragedy" and WTF? Wasn't there another selfie death off a cliff last year?

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    I don't think it has much to do with selfies but more to do with people just taking much less regard just because they're on holidays. Lots of people seem to let their guard down on holidays like this, they're in relaxed mode, they don't anticipate any danger, they sort of think they're exempt from any responsibilities. Standing on the edge of a cliff is not exactly the place for distractions of any kind, selfies or whatever. In Amsterdam you see that kind of mentality in a different way, tourists don't think they need to look before they cross the road just because they're on holidays, or they come to a city which is known for the amount of bikes yet they don't familiarise themselves with the difference between a cycle path and a footpath, they have zero regard, they cause so many accidents, it's the same kind of thing.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Brego888 wrote: »
    This story has less to do with selfies and more to do with two idiots.

    Not quite it's to do with idiots endangering themselves for the sake of a stupid photograph. They're poor children will no doubt be severely traumatised by it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Ya wha'?


    You fell off that moral high ground fairly quickly!

    Jesus Czar- could have phrased that differently..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    28064212 wrote: »
    Incorrect, Darwin Awards are still awarded to people who already have children: http://www.darwinawards.com/rules/rules.children.html.

    Like 99% of people, they misunderstand the theory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I see no difference in people that are obsessed with selfies and people obsessed with Darwin awards.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭123balltv


    I've been taking selfies since I got my first camera back in 1995 nobody
    cared back then
    Facebook makes everyone want to go the next step and show off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    123balltv wrote: »
    I've been taking selfies since I got my first camera back in 1995 nobody
    cared back then
    Facebook makes everyone want to go the next step and show off.

    Could have worded that better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭123balltv


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Could have worded that better.

    Ah so sorry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭Paz-CCFC


    --LOS-- wrote: »
    I don't think it has much to do with selfies but more to do with people just taking much less regard just because they're on holidays.

    Exactly this. It could have happened at any cliff, with or without the "selfie" part. Head to the Cliffs of Moher and you'll see people standing on grassy slopes, inches away from the cliff edge. This didn't begin with the advent of "selfies". It's just, as you say, people taking much higher risks. I wouldn't even confine it to holidays. People, in general, take higher risks over things that they think they're in control of. How many people have done things like unsafely climb up to get things high up - at the top of a shelf, on a dodgy ladder etc. - run across the road, instead of waiting for the green man, walked quickly on slippery/icy surfaces, just to get things/get to place quicker? These could all have fairly serious consequences (falling off a big height, slipping and smacking your head off something), in the attempt to achieve something fairly trivial. But people still take this risks, because they feel in control. These people thought that they were in control of this situation - sadly, they weren't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Poor kids ...:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    wprathead wrote: »
    Jesus Czar- could have phrased that differently..


    Freudian slip...


    Jaysus, I'm off before I put my foot in it again!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    Freudian slip...


    Jaysus, I'm off before I put my foot in it again!

    You're stepping out of line a bit now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    You're stepping out of line a bit now.

    Not sure if serious or pun...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Saipanne wrote: »
    Not sure if serious or pun...

    That means I nailed the delivery. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 leeenfield


    dan1895 wrote: »
    Darwin awards nominee
    Omackeral wrote: »
    As sad as it is, it does read like a gag from Hot Shots Part Deux.
    mad muffin wrote: »
    Too late. They have already bred…
    Saipanne wrote: »
    Why? They already reproduced.
    Brego888 wrote: »
    This story has less to do with selfies and more to do with two idiots.
    mad muffin wrote: »
    Then it's a stupid award. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid…

    An accident on a family day out.

    How would you like watching your parents die this way ?

    You people, and the way this story is being spun, are the pathetic brainwashed products, and the result of, your sick society, culture and mentality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    leeenfield wrote: »
    An accident on a family day out.

    How would you like watching your parents die this way ?

    You people, and the way this story is being spun, are the pathetic brainwashed products, and the result of, your sick society, culture and mentality.



    Too jaded… don't care… back to Facebook…


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    So.... Who in their right minds stand on the edge of a cliff they don't know is stable, common sense was where ? The selife part is also stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    123balltv wrote: »
    I've been taking selfies since I got my first camera back in 1995 nobody
    cared back then
    Facebook makes everyone want to go the next step and show off.

    Ah, a selfie hipster...


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