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Why Ahngella Merkel????

  • 09-08-2014 10:45am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭


    Why does Irish media insist on collectively referring to the German Chancellor as Ahngella Merkel????

    Anytime i listen to Deutsche Welle news a German english language radio service they just call her Angela - pronounced just like you would have heard it all your life???

    Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't it be so typically funny if this was dumb Irish Journalists copying each other like smalltime lemming hacks? Like the time one of them discovered the term 'swingeing cuts' and suddenly Irish journalism as a collective couldn't mention anything else for 6 months straight?

    Baaaaa!


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    I don't know what this is/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I bought a new razor yesterday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭ruthloss


    Vot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    The Gestapo are on their way...

    ...to close the thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,829 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    The pronunciation you are complaining about is actually correct. German has a 'hard' G sound.

    It is kind of at odds with other names that they mispronounce such as Nicolas Sarkozy. Should be Nic-o-lah Sar'ko-ZEE & not Nic-o-lass Sar-KOH-zee.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    Why does Irish media insist on collectively referring to the German Chancellor as Ahngella Merkel????



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,986 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Should it not be pronunced Angel a as in guardian angel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,618 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I bought a new razor yesterday.

    Can I have it when your done?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭ruthloss


    'die ahnungslosigkeit'
    (lit.cluelessness)
    The state of being completely uninformed about what is going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,768 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    I bought a new razor yesterday.

    My cats name is Mittens.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭ruthloss


    My cats name is Mittens.



    Or 'Fausthandschun'., for short:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,065 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    ruthloss wrote: »
    'die Ahnungslosigkeit'
    (lit.cluelessness)
    The state of being completely uninformed about what is going on.

    You seem to be clueless about the fact that all nouns start with a capital letter in German. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,214 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    I'm painting skirting boards.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,730 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    The pronunciation you are complaining about is actually correct. German has a 'hard' G sound.

    It is kind of at odds with other names that they mispronounce such as Nicolas Sarkozy. Should be Nic-o-lah Sar'ko-ZEE & not Nic-o-lass Sar-KOH-zee.

    Sharon ni bheolain makes an absolute clusterfcuk of his name all the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Oops69


    Ask Michael murphy, he lives to pronounce foreign names .....and to advise us to suit ourselves when it comes to Christmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭Trebor176


    I guess it's how she pronounces it. So, that's how everyone pronounces it that way. Why is there Marie (pronounced like marry) and Marie (pronounced like maree)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Why Ahngella Merkel????

    Because goose step.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭stefan idiot jones


    Their chocolate smells of sausages


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Things were so much easier when German leaders were called Helmut.

    You always knew where you stood with your Helmut.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭gunny558


    I watched a documentary about her (its still on youtube if anyones interested) and the whole way through they kept calling her ang-gill. Just basically left the 'a' out altogether.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Because we like putting H were there is none or over pronouncing a H were it's not needed or silent. I on the other hand can say . This, that , these and those. without going dis, dat dess and doooes. And I say Tomas not Thhhhhomas.... :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭diograis


    The pronunciation you are complaining about is actually correct. German has a 'hard' G sound.

    It is kind of at odds with other names that they mispronounce such as Nicolas Sarkozy. Should be Nic-o-lah Sar'ko-ZEE & not Nic-o-lass Sar-KOH-zee.

    call me a pedant but...

    French as a language places equal stress on every syllable, not stress on the last one. So your correction is as wrong as the way they say it.

    Better luck next time hun


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    diograis wrote: »
    call me a pedant but...

    French as a language places equal stress on every syllable, not stress on the last one. So your correction is as wrong as the way they say it.

    Better luck next time hun

    This is what I don't get either, the fake put on French accent here and UK. You never hear French news readers suddenly burst into a Irish or UK accent when pronouncing stuff from here or there. Think it's a throw back from when traveling became cheap to seem cultured.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    diograis wrote: »
    call me a pedant but...

    French as a language places equal stress on every syllable, not stress on the last one. So your correction is as wrong as the way they say it.

    Better luck next time hun





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭the_barfly1


    Because we like putting H were there is none or over pronouncing a H were it's not needed or silent. I on the other hand can say . This, that , these and those. without going dis, dat dess and doooes. And I say Tomas not Thhhhhomas.... :pac:

    Hwhill Hwheaton


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Drakares


    Because that's how her name is pronouced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    I call her Frau Farbissina.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭gunny558


    mad muffin wrote: »
    I call her Frau Farbissina.

    ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    gunny558 wrote: »
    ???

    Oh behave


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭diograis



    aaaaand they say it with equal stress on all syllables. Lovely videos btw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    diograis wrote: »
    aaaaand they say it with equal stress on all syllables. Lovely videos btw

    I pronounce it;

    Nicolass Sarcosy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    mad muffin wrote: »
    I pronounce it;

    Nicolass Sarcosy

    Same here I'm not French, Why would i put a French accent on. French people don't put an Irish accent on saying Paddy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,927 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    RTE has a pronounciation guide (same as BBC) so all newsreaders have to follow that and will get training and coaching if needs be. So thats why they all do the same pronounciation of certain random foreign names.

    But anyhow, the pronounciation that REALLY is annoying is the US foreign minister John Kerry, whose surname many news readers pronounce as Carey

    Now, John Kerry's granddad renamed the family after a certain county in south west ireland, that is NOT pronounced Carey - especially if you are saying it as an irish person talking in an irish accent.

    (BTW, it seems to now be pronounced more often than not as "Kerry", so someone had the cop on to prounounce the irish name the irish way)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    And Americans with this A (like bay) dolf Hitler. Give the man some respect and say his name properly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Same here I'm not French, Why would i put a French accent on. French people don't put an Irish accent on saying Paddy.

    Exactly. They pronounce it Paadi. Why is the onus always on the English speaker?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    RTE has a pronounciation guide (same as BBC) so all newsreaders have to follow that and will get training and coaching if needs be. So thats why they all do the same pronounciation of certain random foreign names.

    But anyhow, the pronounciation that REALLY is annoying is the US foreign minister John Kerry, whose surname many news readers pronounce as Carey

    Now, John Kerry's granddad renamed the family after a certain county in south west ireland, that is NOT pronounced Carey - especially if you are saying it as an irish person talking in an irish accent.

    (BTW, it seems to now be pronounced more often than not as "Kerry", so someone had the cop on to prounounce the irish name the irish way)
    What about Jim Carrey?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    KungPao wrote: »
    And Americans with this A (like bay) dolf Hitler. Give the man some respect and say his name properly.

    And (eye)Iraq, Iran, Italian...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Exactly. They pronounce it Paadi. Why is the onus always on the English speaker?

    They try a bit like we sometimes try a bit. Even when we say something french like french people, it's generally still very different than the actual way they pronounce it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,927 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    KungPao wrote: »
    What about Jim Carrey?
    What about Jim Carrey. His name is Carrey so prounced that way.

    John Kerry is Kerry - like the county, and actually is named after the county.

    The 2 names are not the same and should not be prounced the same - ESPECIALLY in the country which contains a county called Kerry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    diograis wrote: »
    aaaaand they say it with equal stress on all syllables. Lovely videos btw

    No they don't. But I'm glad you enjoyed the videos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭curioser


    Didn't Eamon Gilmore do us proud when, after being appointed Minister for Foreign Affairs, he disappeared to Europe for about a year, spent his time rubbing shouders with the great and the good, and re-surfaced with the breathtaking news that the big two leaders were pronounced President Sar-co-zee and Chancellor Mer-kell and not Sar-cosy and Merkle as the clowns on RTE were pronouncing them.


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