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WhiskeyGoblin

ED E wrote: »

Just experienced sudden SSD death syndrome on my primary machine. A days worth of dev work gone and 2days worth of setting up the new one.

F'ck. My. Life.

Was there no online backup for the dev work?

ED E

Nope, using dropbox but have it paused while actively working on a project.

TerrorFirmer

ED E wrote: »

Just experienced sudden SSD death syndrome on my primary machine. A days worth of dev work gone and 2days worth of setting up the new one.

F'ck. My. Life.

That happened me with a Crucial M4, died abruptly overnight with no warning signs, had a ton of project work on it at the time.

Thought me a lesson about keeping daily backups!

booooring!

I have two 128gb USB's in the back of my pc using mirrored folders for important files and docs and cloud storage runs every hour.

Fakman87

Lads just wondering if you could help.

I built a pc back in May using this ram here:

http://www.hardwareversand.de/en/1600+Low+Voltage/52091/8GB+Corsair+Vengeance+PC3-12800U+CL10-10-10-27.article

Now I want to add an extra 8gb of ram and I'm wondering if this one will work with the one above, since they are slightly different:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMZ8GX3M1A1600C9-Vengeance-Performance-Desktop/dp/B0085IZRSO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1443826739&sr=8-2&keywords=8gb+corsair+vengeance

Digital Solitude

It'll work yeah, its best to get matching sets though.

Fakman87

Digital Solitude wrote: »

It'll work yeah, its best to get matching sets though.

Thanks man, would there be any big complications if they don't match?

Digital Solitude

I don't think so, just won't run at max capacity I believe.

kearneybobs

booooring! wrote: »

I have two 128gb USB's in the back of my pc using mirrored folders for important files and docs and cloud storage runs every hour.

What's the best way to go about scheduling something like this?
My 128GB SSD has my Windows install and just my general programs installed on it. Anything major (sizewise) like my Steam folder, game installs and documents are sitting on my 2TB drive.

I've been tempted to make the jump to windows 10 but if my drive died I would end up having to reinstall windows 7, then upgrade to Win 8, then to win 8.1 then upgrade to Win 10. Quite the debacle. Would doing daily/weekly backups of my SSD allow me to restore my install to an alternative drive should it fail?

Are you backing up just your important files or the drive on whole?

ED E

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

That happened me with a Crucial M4, died abruptly overnight with no warning signs, had a ton of project work on it at the time.

Thought me a lesson about keeping daily backups!

My backup regime is normally pretty good: Primary copy on workstation, secondary copy on sync to NAS, remote copy in Minneapolis(Crashplan). Problem is current day stuff.

There is something to be said for HDDs "failing slowly".

Danger781

If I'm considering a new build in the next few months is Skylake the way to go? Or are people expecting the new AMD architecture to make an impact on the market?

There's a decent deal over at Scan at the moment with a free Siberia headset with an MSI Z170 board.. Tempting

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-z170a-gaming-m5-intel-z170-s-1151-ddr4-satae-m2-(pcie-sata)-sli-crossfire-killer-lan-usb-31-gen2

Digital Solitude

I've still been speccin primarily Has well builds, even since Skylakes release

There is minimal difference in gaming, buth for CPUs and RAM, so if the budget is tight then it's Haswell

No easy of calling AMDs stance unless DX12 is out

Danger781

Digital Solitude wrote: »

I've still been speccin primarily Has well builds, even since Skylakes release

There is minimal difference in gaming, buth for CPUs and RAM, so if the budget is tight then it's Haswell

No easy of calling AMDs stance unless DX12 is out

Budgets not tight as I'll be buying it in pieces over the next while as deals come along, hence my interest in the above deal. I'd probably sell the Siberia headset saving me a bit of money.

Zen looks very promising but we know AMD will keep AM4 around for a number of years. So theres no reason to rush into Zen immediately.

TerrorFirmer

I'd be amazed if Zen if anything other than the poor mans Intel at a lower price point to be honest. I just can't see AMD catching up at this point, their future has to lie in APU's.

I have never understood why people ever bothered going for AM3+ and Fx6/8 series processors over Intel for gaming. There were people here on this forum the past few years eagerly recommending bulldozer as a brilliant economical choice, yet here we are a few years on and 2nd gen Intel i5's still wallop them in pretty much every game....despite the fact that the AMD option uses way more power to boot.

AMD have been dead in the water CPU wise for a long time - for almost a decade now in fact. I remember how people used to snicker until Core 2 in 2005 when you chose a Pentium 4 or D over an Athlon 64 or X2.

AlmightyCushion

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I'd be amazed if Zen if anything other than the poor mans Intel at a lower price point to be honest. I just can't see AMD catching up at this point, their future has to lie in APU's.

I have never understood why people ever bothered going for AM3+ and Fx6/8 series processors over Intel for gaming. There were people here on this forum the past few years eagerly recommending bulldozer as a brilliant economical choice, yet here we are a few years on and 2nd gen Intel i5's still wallop them in pretty much every game....despite the fact that the AMD option uses way more power to boot.

AMD have been dead in the water CPU wise for a long time - for almost a decade now in fact. I remember how people used to snicker until Core 2 in 2005 when you chose a Pentium 4 or D over an Athlon 64 or X2.

Apart from the Pentium D 845 (at least I think that's the one) as it was a beast of an overclocker. But yeah back then AMD was the only game in town.

levitronix

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I'd be amazed if Zen if anything other than the poor mans Intel at a lower price point to be honest. I just can't see AMD catching up at this point, their future has to lie in APU's.

I have never understood why people ever bothered going for AM3+ and Fx6/8 series processors over Intel for gaming. There were people here on this forum the past few years eagerly recommending bulldozer as a brilliant economical choice, yet here we are a few years on and 2nd gen Intel i5's still wallop them in pretty much every game....despite the fact that the AMD option uses way more power to boot.

AMD have been dead in the water CPU wise for a long time - for almost a decade now in fact. I remember how people used to snicker until Core 2 in 2005 when you chose a Pentium 4 or D over an Athlon 64 or X2.

The cost of them trying catch up now at 14nm would be to big for them, it would mean brand new fabs all new tooling , I cant see them chasing it too long in the cpu pc market, I could see them chasing Samsung now in other markets

cherryghost

Calling out Bloodbath!

How was the QX2710? I seen back in August you ordered one. Thinking of picking one up myself.

TerrorFirmer

levitronix wrote: »

The cost of them trying catch up now at 14nm would be to big for them, it would mean brand new fabs all new tooling , I cant see them chasing it too long in the cpu pc market, I could see them chasing Samsung now in other markets

There was a good article recently that predicted that if it continued the way it currently is, AMD will be bankrupt in a few years.

booooring!

I see people criticizing amd for gaming but any benchmarks I've seen it's only 10 fps in the difference. It's not like your dropping down from 90 fps to 50 fps.

Intel is better yes but there not horrible processors. For battlefield 4 its on par.
http://www.techspot.com/review/734-battlefield-4-benchmarks/page6.html

Digital Solitude

booooring! wrote: »

I see people criticizing amd for gaming but any benchmarks I've seen it's only 10 fps in the difference. It's not like your dropping down from 90 fps to 50 fps.

Intel is better yes but there not horrible processors. For battlefield 4 its on par.
http://www.techspot.com/review/734-battlefield-4-benchmarks/page6.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/1006-the-witcher-3-benchmarks/page5.html

Tha fact that an i3 is closer to the 8 core 8350 than the 8350 is to the i7 says it all really.

The 9590, a stupidly hot and very highly clocked octa core chip, has one frame over a four year old i5.

There's no comparison.

I actually wrote a thesis about AMD vs Intel CPUs last week, it was a college assignment but the brunt of it was how Intel set the bar so high with Sandybridge that AMD haven't even caught up to it, four years later.

TerrorFirmer

That's single player, which isn't very intensive. Those benchmarks have the X4 640 playing the game at 88 frames per second - I've personally attempted to play BF4 online on that processor and it's not too pretty, the average framerate isn't even half that. Obviously with regards the FX line it depends on the game but there are a lot of more recent titles where the gap is larger. Techspot have a good GTA V CPU chart that shows the FX9590 at 4.5Ghz ties the 4790K at just 2.5Ghz.

The critical part of the argument as well is that AMD cpu's are far more power demanding, take the 8350 for example it demands 50% more power than the equivalent i5 and still is slower in games broadly speaking. The Fx 9590....220w TDP, almost 300% the power requirement of say the i7-4790 and still slower in games also.

The only reason any gamer should be looking at the 8350 would be if they had an editing requirement as well as gaming.

It was never to say that the 8350 was crap for gaming when you isolate it's performance but there are any amount of factors that do make it a pointless choice for gamers.

Danger781

cherryghost wrote: »

Calling out Bloodbath!

How was the QX2710? I seen back in August you ordered one. Thinking of picking one up myself.

Not BloodBath, but I've been running a QX2710 for two years now. I had to replace the board inside mine which was sent to me free of charge. Have the one with multiple inputs and over clocked it to 96hz without issues.

Overall very happy with the investment.

BloodBath

cherryghost wrote: »

Calling out Bloodbath!

How was the QX2710? I seen back in August you ordered one. Thinking of picking one up myself.

I didn't pull the trigger. I'm still reluctant to do so with all the new hardware out next year and the push for 4k.

What I have is still fine but I am itching to upgrade.

As for the AMD chips they were a lot more reasonable compared to earlier i3's. Intel made about 4 revisions since then with about 10% increase each time over the previous one which made them have about 50-60% better IPC performance which just took the FX line out of the equation completely.

Zen is supposed to have 50-60% or so better IPC performance over bulldozer and a crap load of cores.

levitronix

AMD with a net income over the last 2 quarters is -400 million , intel is 2.7 billion net per quarter profit , whos the one investing heavily in R & D

AMD have to start chasing a different market soon , they lived off the success and developments made by Nexgen when they took them over and haven't come to market with a comparable product since K6 and K7 which were built off nexgens architecture which they developed further

papu

Bargain Lads

http://www.cclonline.com/product/109058/SCO-04301/Gunnar-Eyewear-/Gunnar-Technology-Eyewear-SteelSeries-Scope-Onyx-Frames-Amber-Lenses/EYE0044/

Was £1,095.36 - Save £1,020.00
Now only £75.36 inc VA

Anyone use these ?

TerrorFirmer

STEELSERIES SCOPE
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Features

Adjustible silicone nose pads provide a customizable fit;
Fastener free hinge design and high tensile steel construction create incredible durability;
Gently curved temples provide necessary retention to keep eyewear in place;
Ultra slim temples distribute headphone pressure to ensure headset compatiibility;
Interchangeable sockets create endless design and customization options;
One piece front construction eliminates all welds, screws and other potential points of failure;
Flexible temples conform and ergonomically fit a wide range of head and face shapes.

That's great lads, but you might want to include a few words as to what these one thousand pound glasses actually do, rather than how stylish their construction is.

BloodBath

levitronix wrote: »

AMD with a net income over the last 2 quarters is -400 million , intel is 2.7 billion net per quarter profit , whos the one investing heavily in R & D

AMD have to start chasing a different market soon , they lived off the success and developments made by Nexgen when they took them over and haven't come to market with a comparable product since K6 and K7 which were built off nexgens architecture which they developed further

Yes because they can't release new architecture as often as Intel or Nvidia but when they do it's usually good. They just really messed up with bulldozer/piledriver. They took a gamble that more slower cores would be better but it just didn't work out like that. GCN was better than anything from Nvidia before Maxwell.

They are on the ropes at the moment but I think their new product cycle next year will get them back in the game for a while at least.

levitronix

BloodBath wrote: »

Yes because they can't release new architecture as often as Intel or Nvidia but when they do it's usually good. They just really messed up with bulldozer/piledriver. They took a gamble that more slower cores would be better but it just didn't work out like that. GCN was better than anything from Nvidia before Maxwell.

They are on the ropes at the moment but I think their new product cycle next year will get them back in the game for a while at least.

lol they should of bought nivida when the had the chance and not ati

Danger781

Can someone please offer an explanation on what the hell happened to my computer? Friday last week we had a power cut in our house. When the power finally returned my computer would not power back on.

- I tried to power it on at my desk using two different cables
- I moved my PC to the kitchen and used two different cables
- I tried to start the PSU using the paperclip method

No matter what there was absolutely no power coming through. There was no lights appearing on the motherboard, no signal that the PSU was getting any power. Today I was about to remove the PSU for an RMA but decided to try powering it on again, just in case... And it turned on first time. I can't think of any logical explanation behind this at all.

As of now there has been no issues with power all day. My monitor does randomly go black but is not losing power. There is a crackling in my earphones. Those two I can't figure out either.

booooring!

Do you have a surge protected extension lead or is it directly plugged into the wall?