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Would it be cheaper to live in Enhland

  • 02-08-2014 9:35pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭


    Now that the wafer charges have been brought in.
    mods please dont merge.


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 770 ✭✭✭ComputerKing


    I don't know I never knew they were bringing in wafer charges and where's this Enhland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Now that the wafer charges have been brought in.

    Those wafer charges are a cnut alright.

    A wafer thinly veiled tax you might say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Once the bastards leave the neopolitans alone we'll be fine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Now that the wafer charges have been brought in.
    mods please dont merge.

    As soon as they're brought in, I'll be cone forever, that's for sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Now that the wafer charges have been brought in.
    mods please dont merge.

    I thought they always charged for wafers, are wafers free in Enhland?:confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭sunbeam


    Nooooo-I love my Kit Kats. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Duck's hoop


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Now that the wafer charges have been brought in.

    That's a rather thin argument.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    You know Enhland has Wafer charges as well OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Cantremember


    Mods merging must give rise to mutant mods. I'm sure it's cheaper in Enhland. You can bring your imaginary friend and all for free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    I think compared to here it is just a thin wafer


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    Are communion wafers free or they putting a charge on them too?:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Oh to be in Ehnland
    Now that Ajprls thr#

    - Ropgbrt Brywnigx


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    Finally, a discussion about water charges. It's been like the 800lb gorilla in the room that nobody on boards wants to talk about!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 770 ✭✭✭ComputerKing


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    Finally, a discussion about water charges. It's been like the 800lb gorilla in the room that nobody on boards wants to talk about!

    But we're talking about the new wafer charges not the water ones.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Cantremember


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    Finally, a discussion about water charges. It's been like the 800lb gorilla in the room that nobody on boards wants to talk about!

    Christ almighty! An elephant and a gorilla in the room. No wonder it smells like shyte.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    If you mean if it would be cheaper to live in England, I hope so, cause I'm moving over in four weeks time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭moxin


    Compare your council tax bill in Engerland to our property tax and water charges, enjoy :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    moxin wrote: »
    Compare your council tax bill in Engerland to our property tax and water charges, enjoy :)

    Yeah but thing is whatever tax they pay, dont they see it back again.

    Like dont they get free gp care over there?

    Here, we pay over and over and over again.

    At least they get something over there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭moxin


    Yeah but thing is whatever tax they pay, dont they see it back again.

    Like dont they get free gp care over there?

    Here, we pay over and over and over again.

    At least they get something over there.

    You do know they pay way over a grand in council tax and thats just the working class areas?
    Well you could make that up by paying about 20 visits to the GP each year, not very common?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    moxin wrote: »
    You do know they pay way over a grand in council tax and thats just the working class areas?
    Well you could make that up by paying about 20 visits to the GP each year, not very common?



    Oh crap


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    moxin wrote: »
    Compare your council tax bill in Engerland to our property tax and water charges, enjoy :)

    The amount we pay in income tax absolutely dwarves what you pay there though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    dirtyden wrote: »
    The amount we pay in income tax absolutely dwarves what you pay there though.

    Not really, and the pay in the UK is lower


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭ardle1


    I remember going the to strain tation, adn jumped on a bus, and it was nice zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Now that the wafer charges have been brought in.

    That takes the biscuit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    Is there a wafer for people who can't afford to pay the charge?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    Has someone been on the Sauce ??

    21/25



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Joe Doe


    Indeed Enhlanders have them there rather hefty chouncil taxes to pay.
    - They're a real lot of dosh, really a lot of loadsamonies in fact.
    And there is far less fresh air with all the 50+millions crammed in there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    uch wrote: »
    Has someone been on the Sauce ??

    Chocolate or strawberry?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭Icaras


    moxin wrote: »
    You do know they pay way over a grand in council tax and thats just the working class areas?
    Well you could make that up by paying about 20 visits to the GP each year, not very common?

    But the council tax pays for something like all bins, emergency services (which can be pretty good) , greens to be cut and kept tidy and some sort of sensible planning when new developments are being build - like having shops within walking distance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Feck Enhland. I'm for Whales.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 279 ✭✭thomur


    feargale wrote: »
    Feck Enhland. I'm for Whales.

    No way, I heard you can live for next to nothing in Toyland


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    thomur wrote: »
    No way, I heard you can live for next to nothing in Toyland

    That's Hamlet you're thinking of. Worlds biggest toyshop village.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Now that the wafer charges have been brought in.
    mods please dont merge.

    I do love some ice cream and wafers on a cool summer evening so I do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭moxin


    Icaras wrote: »
    But the council tax pays for something like all bins, emergency services (which can be pretty good) , greens to be cut and kept tidy and some sort of sensible planning when new developments are being build - like having shops within walking distance.

    Well, even if that was the case here, try sell that to the Irish public who do not like parting with their cash!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    moxin wrote: »
    Well, even if that was the case here, try sell that to the Irish public who do not like parting with their cash!

    That post is made all the funnier by reality, where everything here is dearer..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭moxin


    That post is made all the funnier by reality, where everything here is dearer..

    Really? Think its about the same, well it is with NI after currency conversion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭robertxxx


    It mightn't be cheaper, but it would be better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    It depends where you live in England but it is far more expensive in general. Despite what people say, the RoI is still a cheap place to live. Much as a love London, it is an incredibly expensive place to live.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭robertxxx


    Berserker wrote: »
    It depends where you live in England but it is far more expensive in general. Despite what people say, the RoI is still a cheap place to live. Much as a love London, it is an incredibly expensive place to live.

    London is off the scale on expense.

    The rest of the uk is better in all aspects


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    efb wrote: »
    Not really, and the pay in the UK is lower

    It is correct. I work for a british multinational in Ireland. I occasionally am seconded to the UK where I fall under the UK tax system whilst working there. I pay considerably less tax in the UK on the same earnings than I would here. I can make a direct comparison.

    The tax bands are completely different. You need to be earning considerably more to hit the higher tax rates in the UK. And there is not the USC sucking up another chunk.

    What makes you think that I was wrong?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Joe Doe


    New Scotia of 2016 might be value, before the surplus oil, gas n' whisky gazumps up prices on everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭jjbrien


    Lived in england for a bit as a student and worked though college there

    The pay is far lower over there
    Council tax in a crap area of Liverpool would be around 1k per year on a salary of someone getting 12k per which is min wage its quiet a lot
    Then you got water charges
    Car tax however is cheaper

    Lets compaire shall we


    Ireland
    House worth between 150k and 200k in Dublin
    Property tax €315
    Water chargers €240
    Bin collection €240 (average)
    Total: €795 per year on 2014 figures

    England
    House worth around 100k in Liverpool (houses are cheaper there)
    council tax £1,936.27
    Water around 160 pounds a year
    No bin charges as its in council tax
    total 2096.27 pounds per year

    Dont forget they pay higher prsi etc too in the UK on 600 pounds a week they took around 200 from tax and prsi there


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    Hey chums, drop the train spotting manuals, this guy has just made hilarious spelling errors.

    ha ha enhland ... that doesn't even exist.

    classic stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    moxin wrote: »
    Really? Think its about the same, well it is with NI after currency conversion.

    LOL. You so funny.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    It's cheaper to live in England

    but it's a long way into work in the morning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    jjbrien wrote: »
    Lived in england for a bit as a student and worked though college there

    The pay is far lower over there
    Council tax in a crap area of Liverpool would be around 1k per year on a salary of someone getting 12k per which is min wage its quiet a lot
    Then you got water charges
    Car tax however is cheaper

    Lets compaire shall we


    Ireland
    House worth between 150k and 200k in Dublin
    Property tax €315
    Water chargers €240
    Bin collection €240 (average)
    Total: €795 per year on 2014 figures

    England
    House worth around 100k in Liverpool (houses are cheaper there)
    council tax £1,936.27
    Water around 160 pounds a year
    No bin charges as its in council tax
    total 2096.27 pounds per year

    Dont forget they pay higher prsi etc too in the UK on 600 pounds a week they took around 200 from tax and prsi there

    The council tax bands aren't based on the current value,they are based on the value in 1991, the year before council tax was introduced. So on a house currently worth 100k it would probably be less than that, especially outside London.

    If you live alone you get a 25% discount and also if you earn less than a certain amount a week or are on benefits


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    The council tax bands aren't based on the current value,they are based on the value in 1991, the year before council tax was introduced. So on a house currently worth 100k it would probably be less than that, especially outside London.

    If you live alone you get a 25% discount and also if you earn less than a certain amount a week or are on benefits

    That council tax figure is a chunk higher than I'd expect. Our 2 bed house in Romford (london borough of havering) is worth about £220k and council tax is ~£1300. It does seem steep at first but I can get a basic weekly shop here for £30 and I was drinking pints for £2.39 last night so that stuff helps even it up. Also got a root canal done for £240 a couple of years ago!

    Enhland ftw!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    theteal wrote: »
    That council tax figure is a chunk higher than I'd expect. Our 2 bed house in Romford (london borough of havering) is worth about £220k and council tax is ~£1300. It does seem steep at first but I can get a basic weekly shop here for £30 and I was drinking pints for £2.39 last night so that stuff helps even it up. Also got a root canal done for £240 a couple of years ago!

    Enhland ftw!

    When I lived in London, the council tax on the 2 bed flat we rented in chiswick was £1700. Outside of London I'd expect it to be a lot less.

    Cost of living is a lot less there, definitely cheaper than Ireland. And the NHS is brilliant. I'd move back there tomorrow if I could :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭robertxxx


    Free nhs care.
    Free GP.
    Free schools, uniform, books, pens, etc.
    Cheaper Car tax.
    Cheaper sky tv, and mobile phone rates.


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