Callely moved to Mountjoy's medical unit

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Jailed Ivor Callely has reportedly been moved to the medical unit of Mountjoy Prison.

The former Junior Minister, 56, was sentenced to five months in jail after admitting using fake invoices to claim more than €4,000 worth of expenses when he was a senator.

The Irish Examiner reports today that Mr Callely is being cared for in the high-support unit — a 10-bed therapeutic section manned by medical and psychiatric staff.

Cormac O'Keeffe reports that the unit “provides expert, supportive, short-term input for prisoners who are in an acutely disturbed phase of a mental illness or require observation for a physical illness”.

Mr Callely had been due be transferred to Wheatfield Prison in west Dublin from the committal unit of Mountjoy yesterday morning.

However, there were "serious concerns over his reaction to being in prison", said one source. “He was not handling it very well.”

Wow people outside with Depression/Anxiety don't get it that good. Often turned away (yes turned away by the HSE)

Dravokivich

I wonder if I can get a doctor cert for "not handling work very well."

this is fúcking ridiculous.

wazky

Maybe his cell mate broke him in a bit roughly?

Fozzie Bear

Hmmm, would the medical ward be considered his primary residence now and the cell his holiday home and can he claim travel expenses?

Weirdest sense of deja vu for some reason.....

KungPao

Awww, poor cock.

Hotfail.com

Are we supposed to be outraged?

aidan24326

Dravokivich wrote: »

I wonder if I can get a doctor cert for "not handling work very well."

this is fúcking ridiculous.

Indeed. Most people sentenced to prison 'don't handle it very well' in the intial phase. Needless to say it requires a major adjustment. Most people don't get this kind of cotton wool treatment though.

bumper234

Surprised he isn't already in the cushy shelton abbey.

SEPT 23 1989

Do all prisoners get this treatment after the door slams on the first night of their incarceration?

they do in their sh1te

Fr_Dougal

Dravokivich wrote: »

I wonder if I can get a doctor cert for "not handling work very well."

this is fúcking ridiculous.

He's probably forged his.

Macavity.

Grrr this makes me very angry.

:pac:

hairybelly

Ah jaysus. 5 months the poor yoke.

Beano

Macavity. wrote: »

Grrr this makes me very angry.

:pac:

only 3 r's so not that angry then?

Aglomerado

"Not handling it very well." :rolleyes: Piffle.

The only thing he's not handling well is the fact that he got caught and has been held accountable for his actions.

fleet_admiral

Ahh the poor little lamb

Holsten

Prisoner gets mental health care and people are annoyed?!

What the hell?!?

Celly Smunt

Surely they'll have to release him for health reasons now

Grab All Association

What the prison officers should have done to him

Arsemageddon

wazky wrote: »

Maybe his cell mate broke him in a bit roughly?

Given his sense of entitlement Ivor was probably in shock that his cell mate didn't have the god damn common courtesy to give him a reach around.

Flibbles

Holsten wrote: »

Prisoner gets mental health care and people are annoyed?!

What the hell?!?

I refuse to accept you can't see the blatant unfairness of this. A typical prisoner will/would not receive this kind of treatment.

Bog Standard User

Holsten wrote: »

Prisoner gets mental health care and people are annoyed?!

What the hell?!?

i would have thought ALL prisoners have mental health issues otherwise they wouldnt have committed a crime

arybvtcw0eolkf

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Do all prisoners get this treatment after the door slams on the first night of their incarceration?

they do in their sh1te

From my understanding of it, I've a few mates who are PO's in the 'Joy, people like Callerly are regularly taken away from the general population for their own safety.

Regardless our feelings for him he deserves to be protected a least.

Hotfail.com

Flibbles wrote: »

I refuse to accept you can't see the blatant unfairness of this. A typical prisoner will/would not receive this kind of treatment.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/callely-under-24-hour-observation-at-mountjoy-over-mental-health-277483.html They obviously believe he's in danger, either from himself or others, otherwise there'd be no need for 24-hour observation.

If you think a typical prisoner wouldn't get this kind of treatment then my issue would be with the lack of provision of mental healthcare services inside our prisons than with him actually receiving this care.

EDIT: He isn't a typical prisoner anyway, he's went from holding a highly-respectable office (well... Some may disagree with that! :pac:) to being hung out to dry in front of the whole country, that doesn't happen to the typical prisoner. The fact that him receiving mental healthcare inside prison becomes a story worth commenting on also shows that he's not a typical prisoner.

jjbrien

In the states didnt Paris Hilton do a similar thing and then they let her go after a few days maybe hes hoping for the same

My name is URL

Flibbles wrote: »

I refuse to accept you can't see the blatant unfairness of this. A typical prisoner will/would not receive this kind of treatment.

Ehh, yes they would. That's why such an observation unit exists. It wasn't built especially for Callely like!

Nobody knows what sort of mental state he's in so it's a bit stupid to be outraged by it. I'm sure that those with responsibility for making the decision to move him are better placed than AH to make that call.

P_1

Holsten wrote: »

Prisoner gets mental health care and people are annoyed?!

What the hell?!?

No it's the perceived class snobbery at a member of the establishment getting better treatment than people who aren't a part of it that's causing the annoyance.

Hotfail.com

My name is URL wrote: »

Ehh, yes they would. That's why such an observation unit exists. It wasn't built especially for Callely like!

Nobody knows what sort of mental state he's in so it's a bit stupid to be outraged by it. I'm sure that those with responsibility for making the decision to move him are better placed than AH to make that call.

We'd all love to see a good beating though.. :rolleyes:

Gongoozler

For five months in prison? ****ing idiot. He defrauded the state, he needs to learn to shut up and deal with it

renegademaster

tis a serious pity the people of ireland didnt kick up a stink until there was a whole ward full of the lies of callely who though they could run amok with impunity, his case is only the tip of the icebreg compared to the anglo 2 and they got community service!!

the people of ireland are to blame for allowing all this to happen in the first plce and now we're to blame for no accountability or justice!!

darkpagandeath

I'm sorry "Not handling it well ?" I thought prisons were designed as a form of punishment. Not a day spar, Maybe that's why we have lads walking around with 150 odd previous convictions. Worst will happen is back into a place with a t.v PlayStation, free meals. Better than what some people get outside.

TheLastMohican

Has anyone asked Bertie why so many of his bosom pals are in/have been in chokey? Or is it just a Northside thing.
Incidentally, Haughey, Bourke, Bertie and this toerag all look about the same height.

mickydoomsux

renegademaster wrote: »

tis a serious pity the people of ireland didnt kick up a stink until there was a whole ward full of the lies of callely who though they could run amok with impunity, his case is only the tip of the icebreg compared to the anglo 2 and they got community service!!

the people of ireland are to blame for allowing all this to happen in the first plce and now we're to blame for no accountability or justice!!

We were all too busy spending money we didn't have.

darkpagandeath

mickydoomsux wrote: »

We were all too busy spending money we didn't have.

Every country is we run debt based economy's.

Valetta

Gongoozler wrote: »

For five months in prison? ****ing idiot. He defrauded the state, he needs to learn to shut up and deal with it

He needs to shut up?

What did he say?

Valetta

[quote="darkpagandeath;91535970", free meals. Better than what some people get outside.[/quote]

How would you expect them to pay for their meals, being all locked up and unable to work, like ?

Tail Docker

bumper234 wrote: »

Surprised he isn't already in the cushy shelton abbey.

He's grand. They put him in the care section to molly coddle him and keep him away from the plebs. They always look after their own, even when they're shafting them.

darkpagandeath

Valetta wrote: »

How would you expect them to pay for their meals, being all locked up and unable to work, like ?

Imagine having to work in the prison to provide money to pay for your food. I know it may be a scary concept.

Holsten

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I'm sorry "Not handling it well ?" I thought prisons were designed as a form of punishment. Not a day spar, Maybe that's why we have lads walking around with 150 odd previous convictions. Worst will happen is back into a place with a t.v PlayStation, free meals. Better than what some people get outside.

His punishment is loss of liberty.

Nothing more.

Waste of time and money jailing a non violent criminal.

Hotfail.com

Holsten wrote: »

Waste of time and money jailing a non violent criminal.

I would agree in most cases, but just for the fact that this may deter other politicians from committing expenses fraud I think it's worthwhile.

Holsten

Hotfail.com wrote: »

I would agree in most cases, but just for the fact that this may deter other politicians from committing expenses fraud I think it's worthwhile.

It won't.

Harsh sentencing does nothing for deterrence.

darkpagandeath

Holsten wrote: »

It won't.

Harsh sentencing does nothing for deterrence.

What's the alternative then ?

Hotfail.com

Holsten wrote: »

It won't.

Harsh sentencing does nothing for deterrence.

I'd disagree to be honest, the only people who wouldn't be deterred due to harsh sentence are scumbags who are used to going to prison I'd imagine.

If I was doing anything illegal (say something stupid, like littering) and saw people being thrown in jail for 6 months for doing it I think I'd stop doing it quite quickly.

I think it was worth incarcerating him simply for the fact that it gives out the message that politicians aren't untouchable.

Lapin

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Every country is we run debt based economy's.

This has me flummoxed.

RobbingBandit

They're getting his Goodfellas suite set up for him, 24 hour massage with happy ending and a 24 hour chef, but what with the caviar and steak and 50 year old Jameson delayed due to the bank holiday weekend it would make anyone feel blue.

fedor.2.

wazky wrote: »

Maybe his cell mate broke him in a bit roughly?

Ah yes, the sexual assault of men in prison, hilarious:rolleyes:

mad m

That's terrible poor fella, I can sympathise with him, I'd be the same if I only had the standard 15 channels on TV as well!

tayto lover

mickydoomsux wrote: »

We were all too busy spending money we didn't have.

No that's just a cop out often used by Govt supporters.
Many of us did not over-borrow at all.

Sulla Felix

Gatlin Putrid Sensor wrote: »

From my understanding of it, I've a few mates who are PO's in the 'Joy, people like Callerly are regularly taken away from the general population for their own safety.

Regardless our feelings for him he deserves to be protected a least.

How does he, when there's fsck all protection given to the rest of the prison population? Bullying and intimidation is rife in the joy, I doubt he got it any worse than other timid individual.

Hotfail.com

Sulla Felix wrote: »

How does he, when there's fsck all protection given to the rest of the prison population? Bullying and intimidation is rife in the joy, I doubt he got it any worse than other timid individual.

He's a politician who's been thrown in to Mountjoy prison. I doubt the scumbags in there are treating him in the same way that they treat every other new prisoner.

V.W.L 11

poor ol ivor gets jail for stealing 4 grand,the bankers get 240 hours community service for helping to bankrupt a country of billions of euro and generations to come,where is the injustice there :rolleyes:

Shakespeare's Sister

Gongoozler wrote: »

For five months in prison? ****ing idiot. He defrauded the state, he needs to learn to shut up and deal with it

If any prisoner displays symptoms of anxiety/depression they'll be transferred to the mental health unit.
A lot of looking for outrage and a lot of sheer bullsh-t on this thread.
I detest Callely btw.

renegademaster wrote: »

the people of ireland are to blame for allowing all this to happen in the first plce and now we're to blame for no accountability or justice!!

Nope. Not me. I'm not to blame for something I'm not responsible for, cheerz.

Tail Docker wrote: »

He's grand. They put him in the care section to molly coddle him and keep him away from the plebs. They always look after their own, even when they're shafting them.

Huh? Who's "they"?