Scientology E-Meter

lukemaguire

I know this is a bit weird but do any of you know where I could buy a cheap E-Meter, possibly under €100? I have tried eBay but none of the cheap ones work... Any help would be appreciated! Thanks

Banjo String

What the hell is an E-meter

This has something to do with drugs. Hasn't it op.

stimpson

lukemaguire wrote: »

I know this is a bit weird but do any of you know where I could buy a cheap E-Meter, possibly under €100? I have tried eBay but none of the cheap ones work... Any help would be appreciated! Thanks

Yeah. The expensive ones work really well.

Awkward Badger

lukemaguire wrote: »

I have tried eBay but none of the cheap ones work

None of the expensive ones work either. Its all bullshít.

Buzz Killington the third

I'll make you one for €99.99

holystungun9

An e-meter is an meter to measure how much of an eejit you are. It doesn't really matter if you get the expensive one or the cheap one tbh.

lukemaguire

Just to clarify, I don't want to use this, I'm doing a project/investigation into it... To see if it actually has any scientific value...

Sir Arthur Daley

Did you try adverts op? you could swap sttuff for it.

Antar Bolaeisk

Electropsychometer

I'm not normally one to rubbish another's religious beliefs but the above says it all.

lukemaguire

Banjo String wrote: »

What the hell is an E-meter

This has something to do with drugs. Hasn't it op.

Nope, it doesn't...

ww.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-meter

The One Doctor

lukemaguire wrote: »

Just to clarify, I don't want to use this, I'm doing a project/investigation into it... To see if it actually has any scientific value...

I can save you a lot of time and effort by simply telling you that it doesn't work. Please don't tell me you're doing a college project about scientology...

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

Banjo String wrote: »

What the hell is an E-meter

It's for performing personality tests.

It can tell if you're the type of person that should be there at the scene of traffic accidents or not.

Ambulance men are cool and all but what you really need there are scientologists.

BikeQueery

lukemaguire wrote: »

Just to clarify, I don't want to use this, I'm doing a project/investigation into it... To see if it actually has any scientific value...

If you're in any way scientifically literate then you know it doesn't.

darkpagandeath

Does it monitor and track the amount of Ghosts going to the Mother ship ?

lukemaguire

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Does it monitor and track the amount of Ghosts going to the Mother ship ?

Tbh, it probably does...

kneemos

lukemaguire wrote: »

Just to clarify, I don't want to use this, I'm doing a project/investigation into it... To see if it actually has any scientific value...

Depends what you're measuring.If it's personality or whatever then save your money and time.

Buzz Killington the third

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Does it monitor and track the amount of Ghosts going to the Mother ship ?

It monitors how much money you're willing to hand over. It measures in units of gullibles.

lukemaguire

kneemos wrote: »

Depends what you're measuring.If it's personality or whatever then save your money and time.

No it's not, it's to see if it actually measures brainwaves or electrical impulses in the body...

Chucken

You can't have one OP.

The Church of Scientology restricts the use of the E-meter to trained Scientologists, treating it as "a religious artifact used to measure the state of electrical characteristics of the 'static field' surrounding the body"

lukemaguire

BikeQueery wrote: »

If you're in any way scientifically literate then you know it doesn't.

It does work, but not for what the Scientologists say...

lukemaguire

Chucken wrote: »

You can't have one OP.

The Church of Scientology restricts the use of the E-meter to trained Scientologists, treating it as "a religious artifact used to measure the state of electrical characteristics of the 'static field' surrounding the body"

"Artifact" wtf?

kneemos

Does it work the same way as those stud detectors?

conorhal

lukemaguire wrote: »

I know this is a bit weird but do any of you know where I could buy a cheap E-Meter, possibly under €100? I have tried eBay but none of the cheap ones work... Any help would be appreciated! Thanks

I assure you that none of the expensive ones work either....

stimpson

Never mind e meters OP. I have these magic beans I can sell you.

Chucken

lukemaguire wrote: »

"Artifact" wtf?

ar·ti·fact also ar·te·fact (ärt-fkt)
n.
1. An object produced or shaped by human craft, especially a tool, weapon, or ornament of archaeological or historical interest.
2. Something viewed as a product of human conception or agency rather than an inherent element: "The very act of looking at a naked model was an artifact of male supremacy" (Philip Weiss).
3. A structure or feature not normally present but visible as a result of an external agent or action, such as one seen in a microscopic specimen after fixation, or in an image produced by radiology or electrocardiography.
4. An inaccurate observation, effect, or result, especially one resulting from the technology used in scientific investigation or from experimental error: The apparent pattern in the data was an artifact of the collection method.

lukemaguire

Chucken wrote: »

ar·ti·fact also ar·te·fact (ärt-fkt)
n.
1. An object produced or shaped by human craft, especially a tool, weapon, or ornament of archaeological or historical interest.
2. Something viewed as a product of human conception or agency rather than an inherent element: "The very act of looking at a naked model was an artifact of male supremacy" (Philip Weiss).
3. A structure or feature not normally present but visible as a result of an external agent or action, such as one seen in a microscopic specimen after fixation, or in an image produced by radiology or electrocardiography.
4. An inaccurate observation, effect, or result, especially one resulting from the technology used in scientific investigation or from experimental error: The apparent pattern in the data was an artifact of the collection method.

Hahaha, I knew what artifact meant but how the f*ck is an e-meter of historical interest...

Ruu

I am intrigued by your new religion and wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Hail our new leader, luke!

tritium

Buzz Killington the third wrote: »

It monitors how much money you're willing to hand over. It measures in units of gullibles.

So tom cruise is measuring a gazillion gullibles then

tritium

lukemaguire wrote: »

Hahaha, I knew what artifact meant but how the f*ck is an e-meter of historical interest...

Don't you realise it was left behind when those thetans were left in all the volcano's, or some other complicated boll1x dreamed up by a particularly bad sci fi writer

kingchess

You can buy them in Lidl,there are on sale at the moment for around 70 Euro, but I think that the bull sh..t detectors are sold out.

Chucken

lukemaguire wrote: »

Hahaha, I knew what artifact meant but how the f*ck is an e-meter of any interest...

fyp

Joe Doe

Someones said they're sometimes available in Aldi also.

Used to be able to detect those scifientologists in Sydney and Londonium with just line of sight,
as they can be spotted handing out those personality quiz sheets along with free buns and polystyrene cups of tae.

Is it like that tinder app so you can see how many scifi's are in your the local are now on a meter? Isn't the hinterwebs great!

darkpagandeath

Don't walk over a ley line holding one of them bad things happen.

CrazyRabbit

Just go to your local creche and ask the teacher to get the kids to make one for you. I guarantee you it will be just as functional and useful as the official ones.

SouthTippBass

I have this tiger stone, its protective aura keeps us safe from wild tigers. I have it cast over boards right now! I know what you're thinking, something like that must be priceless. Truly it is! Well my friend, for you only €10,000. Of course you cant put a price on the safety of your children. You don't....... hate children..... do you?

Forward that 10k to my paypal account solongsuckers@gmail.com

ressem

Build one yourself?
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/E-Meter/hubbard-patent.html

Might be awkward to get one on ebay, as it'd be in violation of US FDA judgements to distribute them.

E-meters shall be used or sold or distributed only for use in bona fide religious counseling.
...
The E-meter is not medically or scientifically useful for the diagnosis, treatment or prevention of any disease.

FouxDaFaFa

There's a load of "Independent" Scientologists who have legged it from the organisation and who are doing it by themselves more cheaply, like an Open Source Scientology. Maybe get in touch with a few of them and see if you can borrow one/make one?

Tbh, you probably won't have much luck in Ireland. The Scientology population is miniscule.

ComplyOrDie

Maverick

rgodard80a

lukemaguire wrote: »

I know this is a bit weird but do any of you know where I could buy a cheap E-Meter, possibly under €100? I have tried eBay but none of the cheap ones work... Any help would be appreciated! Thanks

From a quick google of e-meter, it says it measures skin resistance.

I've an old "ThoughtStream" device, galvanic skin response detector.

Looks exactly like an old walkman in every respect, but with extra pad for the fingers.
As you get stressed your skins electrical resistance rises.
It's a meditation aid.
I have it years and haven't used in in ages.

It came with software to attach to a serial port if I recall.
It was a bio-feedback device.

So it would graph how you relaxed over say a 15 min meditation period.
Or you could play bio-feedback "games" and try to relax/wake up to control a moving balloon game on the screen. It would probably help you defeat a lie detector test as it measures your galvanic skin response.

But building a "religious" test around it would be quackery of the highest order.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

lukemaguire wrote: »

I know this is a bit weird but do any of you know where I could buy a cheap E-Meter, possibly under €100? I have tried eBay but none of the cheap ones work... Any help would be appreciated! Thanks

This is probably a stupid suggestion for reasons I can't at the moment see, but --- would scientology themselves not sell you one...? Doesn't sound like them to not want to tell you soemthing....

DanWall

Is it one off those yokes that calculate your 3 bio cycles from your birth date? That's also bull****

Chucken

Chucken wrote: »

You can't have one OP.

The Church of Scientology restricts the use of the E-meter to trained Scientologists, treating it as "a religious artifact used to measure the state of electrical characteristics of the 'static field' surrounding the body"

You've to be trained!!!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

This is probably a stupid suggestion for reasons I can't at the moment see, but --- would scientology themselves not sell you one...? Doesn't sound like them to not want to tell you soemthing....

Johnny D. Mudd

I happen to know that you don't need to be a Scientologist to gain acquisition of such a meter. There is actually a secret way of gaining an E-Meter that has seldom been discussed but has been scientifically proven to work. All you need to do is this.

Get yourself a hold of a Ruby incense candle. These can be found in any spiritual healing store. Once found, locate a spot in a crowded room where the sun refuses to shine. Stand in that very spot and shout out these exact words: "Thou shalt not defy me". You'll know this works when the eyes of everyone in that room are cast upon you in a haze of confusion and befuddlement. Leave that room and go to an abandoned building that has laid dormant for countless years. Placing the ruby candle from earlier in the centre of the room, do three full laps around the outskirts of the building, screaming at the top of your lungs all the while. When this has been done, light the candle with any means at your disposal. Leave it burning for ten seconds before peeing it out. Make your way to any shopping department and pick up these four items, a pink long-sleeved shirt, a tub of Pot Noodles, a bottle of champagne pre-dating the birth of the Republic and a small figurine depicting a horse drawn carriage with a bearded man. Make sure to store all these items specifically in an Aldi bag. Any other bag will render the entire exercise moot. Take these items to a local library and make sure the library has the following books: The Republic by Plato, For Whom The Bell Tolls by Ernest Hemingway, Catch 22 by Joseph Heller and Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurty. In each of these books, turn to page number 117, scan to the third paragraph, scan the third line and find the fifteenth word from the left. Note each of these words and proceed to the exit. Finally, scout out a local nightclub. Make sure you get to the door at exactly 11:12pm. Any earlier or any later and the routine will not work correctly. Arrive only when you have adorned the pink long-sleeved shirt and speak with the man at the door. Offer him first the champagne and then tell him this and only this: "The dragon awakens when the hill sings of lament and sorrow". He will resist you at first, considering you with a mix of confusion and anger. But do not despair. You must persevere and recite this phrase, stronger and louder each time he relents. When you feel the time is right, take the figurine and lay it at the feet of a flirtatious vixen and bow before her, uttering a single phrase: "Only the damned may see the radiance of the night". Once this has been done, return to the man by the door and tell him: "I demand to see the King of the Mud". He will again resist your demands but you must once again persevere. Repeat these words again and again until he finally relents and kicks you off the premises. Only then can you experience the same shame and embarrassment you may feel if you had splashed out a hundred quid on an E-Meter that's probably nothing but a glorified copper pipe.

Capt'n Midnight

site about the E meter - very basic circuit

https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/E-Meter/


circuit diagram
https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/E-Meter/cos-emeter.gif

Values for the components in L. Ron Hubbard's e-meter patent application.
(Data courtesy of Jeff Lee.)

Batteries:

B1 1.5 volts
B2 6 volts


Transistors:

TR1, TR2 and TR3 - PNP type 0C70


Resistors:

R1 22K
R2 5K pot (also listed as "51 ohm pre-set variable resistor")
R3 No value given
R4 6.8 ohm (but drawn as a variable resistor)
R5 20K pot
R6 2.2K
R7 4.7K
R8 470 ohm
R9 Listed variously as 1 megaohm, 2.2 megaohm, and open circuit.
R10 5K
R11 5.6K
R12 43K
R13 5K (specified as a "5K ohm pre-set variable resistor")
R14 22K
R15 22K
R16 5K reverselog variable
R17 4.7K
R18 22K


Meter:

M1 Moving-coil meter capable of reading from 0 to 100 microamps
at full scale deflection.

OC70 is an old germanium transistor from 1954 to give you an idea of how common they were you can still buy them for a fiver each even though they haven't been used since the 70's

they had a hfe of 20 , you couldn't even sell them today as factory sweepings except that "germanium" or "older is better"

Pawwed Rig

Just ignore the usual After Hours responses OP. It is hard to get a good answer to a question on this forum sometimes.

You are quite correct in that the cheaper E-meters do not work. They are a con. You would need to spend upwards of €500 on one that will give you the results you are looking for.
Now for the good news. I have one that I am willing to part with for a knock down price of €300ono. It looks a little bit like an old toaster and sparks a bit when plugged in but otherwise it is working perfectly for the purposes that you require. PM me to organise collection.

Can deliver for €350 and a copy of Dianetics.

FouxDaFaFa

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

This is probably a stupid suggestion for reasons I can't at the moment see, but --- would scientology themselves not sell you one...? Doesn't sound like them to not want to tell you soemthing....

They're very protective of the gear. They need to make it seem exclusive and special. That's the draw of Scientology. You're doing something that the plebs outside haven't caught onto yet. Plus, you know, if the non-Scientology public could buy them, they might reveal the secret magic of Scientology. There'd be secrets flying everywhere.

OP, have you considered infiltrating Scientology for us and reporting back? Then you could use their e-meters. Or there's this "vintage" one on ebay.

Joe Doe

Always though Dianetics was a type of diet, sounds like it could be, or about a lady called Diane.

If your getting one, visititation to the 'celebratory office' would be the best bet, just pretend you're a regular on towie or that georges shore show, and your in, minus a percentile part of your salaried wage, allegedly.

Capt'n Midnight

DanWall wrote: »

Is it one off those yokes that calculate your 3 bio cycles from your birth date? That's also bull****

we used to have one of those at home, but the wheel fell off