What do teachers do when schools are off?

gigglemuch82 · 31-07-2014 3:52pm #1

What do school teachers do when schools are off? And why do they get paid the full wage if they're not working?

wazky · 31-07-2014 3:55pm

They "plan and set out next year's learning schedule".......

Turtyturd · 31-07-2014 3:55pm

Drive taxis.

Gran Hermano · 31-07-2014 3:56pm

Twittred campaigns about late salary payments.

Fat Christy · 31-07-2014 3:57pm

Go on extended holidays/travelling.

That's what the teachers I know do. :-/

SEPT 23 1989 · 31-07-2014 3:57pm

They ring Joe Duffy to lecture the nation

fleet_admiral · 31-07-2014 3:58pm

grinds

A part time barman in my local is a teacher by day, greedy bastard

Buzz Killington the third · 31-07-2014 3:58pm

They run summer courses and pay no tax. Then during the mid terms they do grinds and pay no tax. Then while working they also do grinds and pay no tax but have the cheek to complain about the pension levy.

Micilin Muc · 31-07-2014 3:58pm

They have a salary for the months that they work, paid out in 12-month installments.

The_Valeyard · 31-07-2014 3:59pm

Become a teacher and tell us OP

Sir Arthur Daley · 31-07-2014 3:59pm

Work in restaurants, tourist shops for cash.

pickarooney · 31-07-2014 4:00pm

Micilin Muc wrote: »

They have a salary for the months that they work, paid out in 12-month installments.

An annual salary paid in monthly installments.

Just like... everyone, everywhere, ever?

Arsemageddon · 31-07-2014 4:00pm

They sit on their hole for 2-3 months and complain about being over worked.

Spudmonkey · 31-07-2014 4:00pm

Same thing you do with your three months off a year presumably...

The Backwards Man · 31-07-2014 4:03pm

Their fat and psychopathic wives thrash them within inches of their lives.

Micilin Muc · 31-07-2014 4:03pm

pickarooney wrote: »

An annual salary paid in monthly installments.

Just like... everyone, everywhere, ever?

I wasn't very clear!

If you're temporary, you don't get paid for the 2 or 3 months of the summer. If you're permanent, you do.

RWCNT · 31-07-2014 4:03pm

Better question - Why don't all these people who are bitter at teachers just become teachers if it's such an easy gig?

looksee · 31-07-2014 4:04pm

Oh lord, here we go again.

1. the teachers who are not on any sort of reasonable contract (anyone new in and for at least the first 4 years teaching) don't get paid for any holiday periods.

2. All the rest used to be not paid over the holidays, but then this was realised to be unreasonable/unworkable if you want people to go into teaching, so the annual salary was divided by 12 instead of 9 to give everyone a way of coping with the holiday periods. So you look at the annual salary rather than the monthly salary.

Yes, having that extended holiday in the summer is a bonus. It is not always quite as long as it seems as there is some work to be done, usually at the beginning and end of it. On the other hand it is extremely difficult to get holiday at any other time of year, if for example a relative is getting married abroad, still that is a small price for generous breaks.

3. That's the way it is. Get over it.

R.F. · 31-07-2014 4:04pm

Spudmonkey wrote: »

Same thing you do with your three months off a year presumably...

I doubt many get anywhere near that holiday allocation. This is not including 2 weeks at xmas, Easter and mid term breaks as well

And finishing at about 4pm

Not G.R · 31-07-2014 4:04pm

pickarooney wrote: »

An annual salary paid in monthly installments.

Just like... everyone, everywhere, ever?

Exactly! And yet people still cant get their head around why "they're being paid but not even working, Joe".

Probably have one of the most stressful and under apriciated jobs around. Their time off is deserved.

aaakev · 31-07-2014 4:05pm

My brother is a teacher, he is spending the summer in Australia scuba diving while getting paid..... I tell him he is a wanker every chance I get

Spudmonkey · 31-07-2014 4:06pm

R.F. wrote: »

I doubt many get anywhere near that holiday allocation. This is not including 2 weeks at xmas, Easter and mid term breaks as well

And finishing at about 4pm

Laced......with.....sarcasm.......

hairyprincess · 31-07-2014 4:06pm

They sharpen their sally rods.

Mardy Bum · 31-07-2014 4:06pm

A lot supervise LC/JC and/or correct said exams. The correcting ends at different times the latest being August. Many won't start holidays till the end of July. Preparing for the forthcoming school year would take up a few weeks.

R.F. · 31-07-2014 4:07pm

Mardy Bum wrote: »

A lot supervise LC/JC and/or correct said exams. The correcting ends at different times the latest being August. Many won't start holidays till the end of July. Preparing for the forthcoming school year would take up a few weeks.

They get extra pay for this, on top of their normal salary. Its like over time

takamichinoku · 31-07-2014 4:08pm

Primary school teachers have these course things about new approaches to teaching and whatnot they can do over the summer which they get an extra day off over the year for doing as an incentive. They've also have to sort stuff out for the next year (seems to vary wildly how much work this can be, could be absolutely loads for a principal or a larger school every year, but there's a wage increase for larger schools and whatnot). If they're married to a farmer (and nearly every f*cking one I know seems to be), they've to do the whole farmer's wife act and possibly join in with the misery.

Most importantly, they've to sit around at home all summer talking about all these plans they have and complaining to their children that they're not building a shed for them. This has to gradually build to a big huge argument when the Rose of Tralee's on about how the summer was wasted.

Considering it's a job where you're working the whole day, rather than between visits to boards and whatever else, and it can easily consume an absolute ton of your free time, the wages seem fairly reasonable to me tbh.

No Pants · 31-07-2014 4:09pm

aaakev wrote: »

My brother is a teacher, he is spending the summer in Australia scuba diving while getting paid..... I tell him he is a wanker every chance I get

Why? Is he not allowed to save his money and take a holiday like everyone else?

fleet_admiral · 31-07-2014 4:10pm

aaakev wrote: »

My brother is a teacher, he is spending the summer in Australia scuba diving while getting paid..... I tell him he is a wanker every chance I get

Do you add a steel cap toe to the bollox each time you say it?

Matt_Trakker · 31-07-2014 4:12pm

RWCNT wrote: »

Better question - Why don't all these people who are bitter at teachers just become teachers if it's such an easy gig?

Teaching is pretty easy though in fairness. I did it for about 3 year but gave it up coz I really didn't care about how the students did and only did it for the money.
Never had a student fail a state exam though so I was decent at the gig.

It's not for everyone though as I found out, I went into it fully enthusiastic but after a few months I came to realise that students don't care, the higher ups don't care either and parents only care so far as making sure their wee darlings pass and get into university so what's the point in busting your balls for them all when nobody really gives a sh!te.

.....I didn't teach in Ireland if that makes a difference.

aaakev · 31-07-2014 4:12pm

No Pants wrote: »

Why? Is he not allowed to save his money and take a holiday like everyone else?

Of course he is! I'm just jealous as ****! I thought that would have been obvious......

mikeyjames9 · 31-07-2014 4:14pm

I'd rather they get the holidays and recharge the batteries for the new school year

better for the students

RWCNT · 31-07-2014 4:14pm

Matt_Trakker wrote: »

Teaching is pretty easy though in fairness. I did it for about 3 year but gave it up coz I really didn't care about how the students did and only did it for the money.
Never had a student fail a state exam though so I was decent at the gig.

It's easy to do a job you don't give a ****e about, in fairness.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 31-07-2014 4:16pm

Got to love the wacky hoodies down in UL a few years back. 'The three reasons I want to become a teacher, June, July, August.'

No Pants · 31-07-2014 4:16pm

RWCNT wrote: »

It's easy to do a job you don't give a ****e about, in fairness.

To a degree. Eventually you won't care enough to even go in anymore, if you feel it's that pointless. I had a job like that once. Money was way better than what I'm on now, but there was no motivation. Glad to get out of it.

Matt_Trakker · 31-07-2014 4:19pm

RWCNT wrote: »

It's easy to do a job you don't give a ****e about, in fairness.

Can't imagine it's easy to be a doctor if you don't care about it, you'd be misdiagnosing the whole time and end up getting sued or fired.

Pretty demoralising though, you go into it with high hopes and then come to the realisation that nobody really gives a hoot so long as the parent continue to pay for their kids and you keep the pass average at a nice number.

Peregrine · 31-07-2014 4:23pm

You could pay their annual salary over 9 months and leave them struggling to make ends meet for 3 months or you could pay them over 12 months.

Yes, you could pay them over 9 months and tell them to save up for the summer but it's just a lot easier if they got the same wage through the year rather than having to guess what their expenses are going to be for 3 months.

At the end of the year, they still get paid the same amount so I don't get what all the fuss is about.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 31-07-2014 4:23pm

Not G.R wrote: »

Probably have one of the most stressful and under apriciated jobs around. Their time off is deserved.

Get off it, there are a fuckton more stressful jobs out there than being a teacher and the work that's done by teachers is far more appreciated than most other occupations.

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o1s1n · 31-07-2014 4:24pm

Well if my missus is anything to go by, they laugh at their significant other going to work in the morning and then go asleep for another 5 hours.

I envy the days off and with a hdip could be an art teacher, but Christ do teenagers do my head in. No way could I listen to them every day, I'd go mad.

marie12 · 31-07-2014 4:26pm

Week 1- get over the mentalness that is june and get those ringing bells out of head
Week 2- get over the mentalness that was the whole year
Week 3- sleep in and frolic in the garden in my bikini. Plus eat when I want to, not when a bell bursts my eardrum
Week 4- watch daytime tv and listen to radio as we miss all the good stuff
Week 5- do a course so we can get 3 more days off wahoo!!
Week 6- spend a load going on hols as we miss all the cheapest flights
Week 7-walk and wander around, taking in the wonders of the world and try get all the creatures to be quieter (oh yard duty how I miss you and that extra dosh)
Week 8-go shopping for stuff to cover my legs that aren't jeans, dresses that don't ride up and tops that have high small neck holes, ahem boobage and bra straps
Week 9- prepare myself mentally and buy a new lunch box

Dave0301 · 31-07-2014 4:26pm

Matt_Trakker wrote: »

Pretty demoralising though, you go into it with high hopes and then come to the realisation that nobody really gives a hoot so long as the parent continue to pay for their kids and you keep the pass average at a nice number.

From my experience teaching, I would have to disagree with you. You will always have some students that are unwilling to engage, especially if it is a core subject they are forced to take. But if you, as a teacher, with your subject specialist knowledge cannot engage and enthuse some students, you shouldn't be there in the first place.

mikeyjames9 · 31-07-2014 4:26pm

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Get off it, there are a fuckton more stressful jobs out there than being a teacher and the work that's done by teachers is far more appreciated than most other occupations.

sure
prison officer is stressful

but who wants teachers burned out like that

No Pants · 31-07-2014 4:26pm

I don't see what the problem is. Why shouldn't children and teenagers sit in a classroom for 48 weeks of the year and get only 20 days holidays like the rest of us. It's not like they need to play or get a break from it all.

Hotfail.com · 31-07-2014 4:26pm

pickarooney wrote: »

An annual salary paid in monthly installments.

Just like... everyone, everywhere, ever?

AFAIK they get paid for the 9/10 months they work over the course of 12 months, so they don't actually get paid for being on holidays, instead they're getting paid for the work they did in school whilst they're on holidays.. If that makes sense

Geuze · 31-07-2014 4:28pm

gigglemuch82 wrote: »

What do school teachers do when schools are off? And why do they get paid the full wage if they're not working?

All workers get paid during annual leave.

Matt_Trakker · 31-07-2014 4:31pm

Dave0301 wrote: »

From my experience teaching, I would have to disagree with you. You will always have some students that are unwilling to engage, especially if it is a core subject they are forced to take. But if you, as a teacher, with your subject specialist knowledge cannot engage and enthuse some students, you shouldn't be there in the first place.

Naw, there's only so much p!ssing against the tide you can do before throwing in the hanky.
Like I said, all my former students passed their govt exams, that's all they, the bosses and their parents cared about.
Why would you invest so much of yourself if nobody else was willing to?

corner of hells · 31-07-2014 4:35pm

They do what my brother in law does ,

Runs about six miles a day
Minds his three kids
If Dublin are playing , drinks himself into a coma
Wrecks his house doing DIY
Goes back to the school when the alarm triggers , has done this drunk and been returned back to my sister by the Gardai.
Interviews on panels for new teachers for other schools hoping they arent drug dealers or paedophiles.

Cienciano · 31-07-2014 4:51pm

looksee wrote: »

Oh lord, here we go again............... That's the way it is. Get over it.

No thanks, I want to moan at teachers a bit longer.
Finished the working day at 3, mid term breaks, great christmas holidays, holy days off. Can come in hungover and tell the kids to read page 53 while they read a newspaper.
There's no denying it's a handy job, that pays extremely well for what it is :pac: