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When's Daiye 30th July

  • 29-07-2014 8:30pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,173 ✭✭✭


    Are any of you mother****ers thinking of backing Kid Cassidy in the Plate tomorrow?

    Sure he is top weight, it's his first run for Christy Roche, he has a claimer on board taking 5lbs off, he will appreciate the ground, he has first time headgear and tongue tie, he is 33/1 and is owned by JP. What have I missed?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭bellybuster12


    hucklebuck wrote: »
    Are any of you mother****ers thinking of backing Kid Cassidy in the Plate tomorrow?

    Sure he is top weight, it's his first run for Christy Roche, he has a claimer on board taking 5lbs off, he will appreciate the ground, he has first time headgear and tongue tie, he is 33/1 and is owned by JP. What have I missed?


    AP:P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    might want to change the thread title, the 30th is When's Daiye


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    might want to change the thread title, the 30th is When's Daiye

    Done.

    I'm not around tomorrow because I'm going to Galway. Not sure I've mentioned that.

    Please behave :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,961 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    Very hard to see past made in rio in the first
    Taking 6/4 in a race of this nature seems crazy but find
    Me one that'll beat it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,173 ✭✭✭hucklebuck


    andyman wrote: »
    Done.

    I'm not around tomorrow because I'm going to Galway. Not sure I've mentioned that.

    Please behave :pac:

    Well you can ban me now....

    Kid Cassidy, remember the name...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭dilinja1


    hucklebuck wrote: »
    Are any of you mother****ers thinking of backing Kid Cassidy in the Plate tomorrow?

    Sure he is top weight, it's his first run for Christy Roche, he has a claimer on board taking 5lbs off, he will appreciate the ground, he has first time headgear and tongue tie, he is 33/1 and is owned by JP. What have I missed?

    a little stat for you

    horses in the lower weights have an advantage when there is ease in the ground (no horse has managed to carry over 11-0 stone to victory on ground softer than good in the past 15 years). the last 3 times this race has been run on good to firm ground the winning weights have been 11-4, 10-12 and 11-11.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Andalucia


    mailburner wrote: »
    Very hard to see past made in rio in the first
    Taking 6/4 in a race of this nature seems crazy but find
    Me one that'll beat it

    if it was any other trainer, it would be a lump job, but for me MJ horses are too inconsistent, granted they are tough, and some run up a sequence, but some of his last time out winners throw in absolute shockers when brought out quickly.

    add in the fact that its a 3 yr old, by a spriting influence stepping up in trip after an effortless win last Friday, so it will probably win by half the track now that I have pointed out the negatives, granted its hard to pick something to back against it

    will be having some Rum and Butter for the plate, like the fact that Richie Mc is riding him, can give him a nice school around and pick up Alderwood and Wise Old Owl up the hill after the last.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭dilinja1


    Andalucia wrote: »
    if it was any other trainer, it would be a lump job, but for me MJ horses are too inconsistent, granted they are tough, and some run up a sequence, but some of his last time out winners throw in absolute shockers when brought out quickly.

    add in the fact that its a 3 yr old, by a spriting influence stepping up in trip after an effortless win last Friday, so it will probably win by half the track now that I have pointed out the negatives, granted its hard to pick something to back against it

    will be having some Rum and Butter for the plate, like the fact that Richie Mc is riding him, can give him a nice school around and pick up Alderwood and Wise Old Owl up the hill after the last.

    is Maid in Rio not related to a 3m stayer as well??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,115 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Really like Ballychorus in the 3.35 9/2 generally but 6/1 with PP.

    Finished 8 lengths in front of Rich Coast who was third today think he will go close. Negative is Danny Mullins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭sdoc13


    Going to throw a few darts at the plate.

    Have backed shanpallas at 14s ew and the kid cassidy 40s ew.

    Thinking of also backing Nicholls one will decide in the am.

    Like lieutenant Miller ew in first at good wood. Fav could bolt up but way too skinny a price. Think miller the solid ew bet in the race.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,282 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Going for an AP treble, €5 wins €1350. Beach Of Falesa, Golden Ticket and Alderwood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭Goldcupfav


    Cloudscape 6/1 with PP in the 2.30 at Goodwood is a max bet for me. Horse has been crying out for the step up in trip imo and finally gets to go 12f. Gosden always sends his top St.Leger prospect to this race.(Artic Cosmos 2010)(Michelangelo 2012)(Excess Knowledge 2013). Cloudscape got no run at Ascot the last day and when he got out the race was all but over but he stayed on nicely and was closing fast at the line. Postponed who he was a neck behind at Ascot has already hacked up in a listed race next time out.

    Highland Reel in the 3.40 Goodwood also looks banker material.
    The Confessor in the 5.25 is also of interest back down to his last winning mark over this course and distance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭rossom


    Will do a write up in the morning but quite sweet on Aupcharlie 25/1 in the Galway Plate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,173 ✭✭✭hucklebuck


    AP:P

    Its 33/1 and 7/1, there was very little between them in the Grand Annual and Kid beat the Champion Chase Champion on good ground since


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,440 ✭✭✭shmeee


    One bet for me in Galway today, Away We Go in the plate e/w @ 16s, first 5. Will come around that home bend on the bridle. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Gregk961


    mailburner wrote: »
    Very hard to see past made in rio in the first
    Taking 6/4 in a race of this nature seems crazy but find
    Me one that'll beat it

    I think id rather go for lieutenant miller w/o the favourite at 9-2. Quite sure made in rio will win but that price is just awful. Lieutenant miller has a good record in these races and has a good chance of at least finishing 2nd to the fav


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Backed Wise Old Owl yesterday at 16/1.

    He's been prepared for this race since Carlingford Lough won it last year (Same owner/Trainer combo). 2 of his last 3 runs have been in the Plate ('11 and '12).
    Down the bottom of the weights.
    Really nice jumping performance in Punchestown in April, though never looked like winning the race.

    Has a chance, but opened at 10/1 this morning which is very short for a horse that has only run 3 times in 3 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭rossom


    5.30 Galway

    Aupcharlie 25/1


    Henry De Bromhead is one of the best target trainers around and having regained his confidence on his last two starts I think his 8 year old has got a great chance in this typically wide open and competitive looking Galway Plate. A talented bumper performer for Pat Collins, Aupcharlie finished 3rd in the Cheltenham before being purchased by Ann & Alan Potts and sent to Willie Mullins for the beginning of his jumping career. Having shown good promise on his first two starts over hurdles, Aupcharlie won at the 3rd time of asking over timber back in January 2012 before being put away for 10 months and embarking upon his Novice Chasing career where he promised to develop into a top class chaser. Having won comfortably in a Beginners Chase over 20f at Gowran Park in November 2012, Aupcharlie was plunged in at the deep end on just his 2nd chasing start when contesting the Grade 1 Topaz Novice Chase at Leopardstown's Christmas Festival over 3m when he ran out an incredibly unlucky 2nd. Held up in last in the 12 runner contest, Aupcharlie jumped and travelled beautifully throughout the contest and came to the last fence on the snaff. Having slightly pecked on landing at the final flight when a couple of lengths up, Aupcharlie looked sure to win before either idling/tiring out in front as he was claimed in the final strides by an inspired Ruby Walsh on subsequent Cheltenham 4 Miler winner Back In Focus to go down by a head with the pair well clear of the remainder. It was desperately unfortunate to be claimed so late on but that was a huge, huge run on just his 2nd start over fences and Aupcharlie looked to have a tremendous chasing career in front of him. Aupcharlie was then sent off a 1/2 shot on his next start in a Grade 2 Novice Chase when beaten half a length by Tofino Bay (who was 25L behind him on his previous start). Having again travelled and jumped very well in the main, Aupcharlie looked sure to win having jumped the last but it was very clear to see Andrew Lynch go from being quite relaxed to in a frantic panic as he just didn't pick up in the expected manner and could not go by his rival. Although on the face of things it looks a disappointing result, I think Aupcharlie emerged with distinct credit overall as a classy animal. On both starts, Aupcharlie didn't pick up in the manner expected but I genuinely feel that he just didn't stay 3 miles on testing winter ground as he has proven to find plenty for pressure subsequently but he looked to have an engine of a very good horse and, at just 8, I think there is a good chance that engine still remains.

    After those two superb runs on his 2nd and 3rd starts over fences, the wheels came off his career a bit after that. Having disappointed in the Jewson when sent off the 15/2 3rd choice of the punters (didn't jump great), he fell at the final flight (still in with a chance; probably held) on his final start for Willie Mullins in a 3 runner Novice Chase over 2m2f at the Punchestown Festival as his owners the Potts decided to send him to Henry De Bromhead for the 2013-14 jumps season on what has proved to be a bit of retrieval mission. On the back of 10 months off the track, Aupcharlie made his stable debut for De Bromhead in February in a Grade 2 at Gowran Park when still in with a chance when falling heavy at the 2nd last. Thankfully, he showed no ill effects from that fall as he came out to register his first win over fences in over 2 years with a comfortable enough success at Gowran Park at the start of April which would have served as a big confidence booster on the back of a couple of falls. Aupcharlie then made his handicap debut at the Punchestown Festival off a mark of 147 when he caught the eye in 4th in the 2m4f Premier Handicap under top weight. Starting off the race in the front rank, Andrew Lynch progressively allowed his mount to drift further back in the field over the period of the contest and, swinging around the turn he appeared to be in danger of finishing out with the washing. However, after 2 firm cracks of the whip approaching 2 out, Aupcharlie made a lot of really good late headway under hands and heels as he ran on very well to finish about 10L behind the winner in 4th. It was certainly another big step in the right direction and I'm hoping he can build on that strongly today. Dropped 1lb to a mark of 146, Aupcharlie should definitely appreciate the step back up to 2m6f here today and I think the application of cheekpieces for the first time looks good for a number of reasons. It will hopefully keep him focussed throughout the contest, especially at his fences, (I think he's been a bit unfairly criticised for his jumping in the past) and will keep him up to his work if he hits the front as he seemed to idle quite badly when winning in April. With Andrew Lynch injured, Andrew McNamara takes the ride and it will be interesting to see how they decide to ride him as I think he's can be ridden either prominently or held up. Henry De Bromhead has his string in fine order and has already registered a win at the Festival this week and having surely been aimed at this in the past 3 months I'm confident of a big performance from this 8 year old who carries a nice racing weight of 11-1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭rossom


    In the 6.05 Galway Sister Slew 4/1 looks a right old plot. Won at the Festival last year for Joseph Murphy in a Maiden and caught the eye massively on seasonal reappeance/stable debut last time. That should have put this locally owned horse spot on for this (absolutely smashed up) and you'd have to be very surprised if she didn't go very close. Also entered tomorrow so yard might be going for a quick double.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,115 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Backed Ray Ward sickening beat by a 33/1.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    Nice start for the bookie chappies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    mailburner wrote: »
    Very hard to see past made in rio in the first
    Taking 6/4 in a race of this nature seems crazy but find
    Me one that'll beat it

    Was on it myself (not aftertiming if a loser right).

    Pretty sick it has to be said, I don't usually like backing horses that are being thrown out in quick succession but I've been in Maid in Rio previously so decided to stick with her. That's me done for the day, Vulcanite last bet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    That's a good horse, considering his antics in the parade ring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Hughes made a balls of that ride on Windshear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    Fascinating race of tactics coming up. Wouldn't be surprised if Hughes made the running.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    Brilliant acceleration.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭ste2010


    I can only see 3 figuring in the plate

    Alderwood
    Caid Du Berlais
    and slap me if I'm wrong grandads horse at 50-1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,115 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Ballychorus or bed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭nuckeythompson


    wise old owl 10/1
    moonbi creek 6/1
    focussed 12/1
    golden ticket 5/1

    1 lucky 15

    Have to say c4 could learn alot from rte regarding racing coverage. Ted is a legend


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭Bateman


    What to make of Blackstone running again. What are they up to there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    I love the way Aidan still calls it The Heinz :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,553 ✭✭✭CH3OH


    Lilly the lioness was flying at the finish
    Definitely one to watch stepping back up to a little further


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭nuckeythompson


    Its very hard not to agree with Robert Hall speaking with Brian Kavanagh HRI. Spot on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,553 ✭✭✭CH3OH


    Its very hard not to agree with Robert Hall speaking with Brian Kavanagh HRI. Spot on

    Fair play to Robert.. He certainly tried to give him some hard questions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Féck it, had Golden Ticket there.

    Some finish from Greatness after missing the second last!

    Ted and Ruby going at it there :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    Ted and Ruby will be punching each other by the end of this......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,553 ✭✭✭CH3OH


    Greatness was matched at 100+ for small money on betfair


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭zpehtsfd


    How the f did Welds horse keep that race yesterday? What a joke the rules are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    That girl got an awful fall there in the last race in Galway.

    Very easy win for Weld's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    DDC1990 wrote: »
    That girl got an awful fall there in the last race in Galway.

    Very easy win for Weld's.

    Jockey has great potential. His old man will be proud.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭Volvic12


    zpehtsfd wrote: »
    How the f did Welds horse keep that race yesterday? What a joke the rules are.

    I had Henson backed. I knew there would be an enquiry but knew race wouldn't be overturned. No way would they overturn a favourite that short unless they absolutely had to.
    I did feel Smullen had whip in wrong hand and cut off Fran Berry a few times. The gap was there but Smullen kept closing it. Won by a few lengths in the end but I felt Henson came home strong and well could have won if not impeded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭superfurry1


    Gone for Rum and Butter 25-1 looks abit of value with pp four places at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭dilinja1


    Gone for Rum and Butter 25-1 looks abit of value with pp four places at the moment.

    gone for balanslow and count salazar. might have a little bit on spring heeled - culloty looks confident


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭king Henry 14


    Gone for Rum and Butter 25-1 looks abit of value with pp four places at the moment.

    + 1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭Bateman


    Road to Riches and Art of Logistics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,895 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Political Policy ew 16-1 6.40
    I think this is the one to challenge Welds horse,ran a good race in a decent time last
    time out.Down a couple of lbs too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Gone for Rum and Butter 25-1 looks abit of value with pp four places at the moment.
    PP are 5 places, even better.


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    Quantativeeasing for me in the plate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    This is worse than the Grand National......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    Bateman wrote: »
    Road to Riches and Art of Logistics

    Good call.


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