Rough Rider (Paul Kimmage Doc)

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Just starting now on RTE 1

Lady Chatterton

It takes a lot of guts and a streak of madness to be a whistleblower, I've huge admiration for Kimmage and his fellow journalist, David Walsh.

lukin

MrsD007 wrote: »

It takes a lot of guts and a streak of madness to be a whistleblower, I've huge admiration for Kimmage and his fellow journalist, David Walsh.

The mad thing is that Kimmage has now fallen out with Walsh.

hotmail.com

lukin wrote: »

The mad thing is that Kimmage has now fallen out with Walsh.

Over what?

RayM

I loved that line from his father - "Paul was born perfect in an imperfect world"

He's such an intense person. More admirable than likeable.

Lady Chatterton

lukin wrote: »

The mad thing is that Kimmage has now fallen out with Walsh.

There seems to be no sign of a disagreement in this documentary. So far David Walsh has made very positive contributions about Kimmage and his work.

lukin

hotmail.com wrote: »

Over what?

http://www.thescore.ie/paul-kimmage-david-walsh-row-1251374-Jan2014/

Lady Chatterton

RayM wrote: »

I loved that line from his father - "Paul was born perfect in an imperfect world"

He's such an intense person. More admirable than likeable.

As my Dad would say - "He'd fight with his own shadow".
I'm enjoying this documentary.

RayM

MrsD007 wrote: »

As my Dad would say - "He'd fight with his own shadow".
I'm enjoying this documentary.

He'd start a row in an empty room. :pac:

hotmail.com

I can't take cycling seriously. It's too tainted for me.

Lady Chatterton

Cycling is more popular than ever. When I'm out walking in the evenings and the weekends, the roads are full of people cycling in their hi-viz gear.

Harry Angstrom

I'm beginning to realise why Brian O'Driscoll didn't want him to ghost-write his autobiography after all.......

Harry Angstrom

hotmail.com wrote: »

I can't take cycling seriously. It's too tainted for me.

It's always been tainted; from the days of Tommy Simpson and even before that.

hotmail.com

Jesus this programme is drawn out.

Lady Chatterton

Imagine a dinner party with Paul Kimmage and Roy Keane as guests :eek::D

retro:electro

It's fup this and fup that

RayM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Jesus this programme is drawn out.

Most RTE documentaries feel inadequate and short and tend to end abruptly. This one is on the opposite end of the scale. It's on until 11:15...

Harry Angstrom

Happy days, when Charlie Haughey won the Tour de France.

Lady Chatterton

Roche wants Lance Armstrong's medals reinstated apparently :rolleyes:

http://balls.ie/cycling/stephen-roche-thinks-lance-armstrong-should-have-tour-wins-reinstated-paul-kimmage-not-happy/

Harry Angstrom

Fcuker is beeping the cyclists! What a hypocrite!

lukin

I didn't know himself and Roche were so close.Shame they don't talk anymore.

listermint

MrsD007 wrote: »

Cycling is more popular than ever. When I'm out walking in the evenings and the weekends, the roads are full of people cycling in their hi-viz gear.

I cycle. I have a road bike and a commuter. I do it for fitness and to clear the head.

I have zero interest in the tour or Cycling. The achievements are too touched for me to celebrate.

Harry Angstrom

His wife looks better now than on the day of their marriage.

Lady Chatterton

I thought that was a good documentary, I enjoyed it.

nullzero

MrsD007 wrote: »

Imagine a dinner party with Paul Kimmage and Roy Keane as guests :eek::D

Hosted by Frank Serpico.

spiderdan

Huge respect for Paul Kimmage and his work, but I didn't enjoy the documentary - found it a bit self indulgent and boring.

RikkFlair

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Happy days, when Charlie Haughey won the Tour de France.

I think he won Eurovision twice as well.

Lady Chatterton

'The Field' is on now, I love that film!

tom_tarbucket

hotmail.com wrote: »

Over what?

He borrowed Paul's bic pen and never gave it back. ; )

lukin

Very good documentary. Kimmage comes across as very holier than thou but I admire him for standing up to Lance Armstrong's bullying

MargeS

For most of the documentary I thought Kimmage came across as holier than thou and would pick a fight with his own shadow, a blinkered man on a crusade.
But as he spoke about Tom Simpson and the 20 or so young men who had died in the 90's AFTER he wrote Rough Ride, I realised that he lived and worked among these people. It's all very personal. He's looking at it from having been on the inside. He sees it as been rotten to the core, dishonest and costing people their lives... for what?
He's frustrated at the blatant cheating and the governing bodies are supporting it by looking the other way.

He is a man on a crusade, but someone has to say something. At least he knows what he's talking about.

Radio5

Very enjoyable documentary. My admiration for him and what he is trying to do has increased. And it wasn't today or yesterday he started. I remember the LLS interview and the outcry it caused.

On a side and much less important note, the scenery of France was stunning. It made me want to go there asap!

robwen

Gutted missed this, anyone any idea where I can watch it? Its not on the RTE player

Am I the only one a bit disappointed with this docu - maybe there was too much hype surrounding it.

DebDynamite

Loved his reply to Armstrong: "You don't own the patent on cancer" :pac:

willya

I missed the documentary, and looks like it's not going to be on the RTE player and there is a further hold up with the international release. Does anyone know any website that might have it.

CountyHurler

willya wrote: »

I missed the documentary, and looks like it's not going to be on the RTE player and there is a further hold up with the international release. Does anyone know any website that might have it.

Just wondering will it be repeated at some stage over the weekend?

ThisRegard

lukin wrote: »

Very good documentary. Kimmage comes across as very holier than thou

The opening words from his mouth in the documentary were about how he doped.

I don't think it will be repeated, the makers are looking to get a worldwide or cinematic release so the RTE spot was a once off.

DeepBlue

willya wrote: »

Does anyone know any website that might have it.

I might do.

CountyHurler

You're gonna need to give me some help here DeepBlue... I downloaded a torrent for "Rough Rider" from the InterWeb earlier but when it finished downloading I discovered it was a different sort of ride altogether... :eek::eek:

Lisha

CountyHurler wrote: »

You're gonna need to give me some help here DeepBlue... I downloaded a torrent for "Rough Rider" from the InterWeb earlier but when it finished downloading I discovered it was a different sort of ride altogether... :eek::eek:

Lol...
I'm sure you watched to the end just in case you missed the cycling documentary . ....

CountyHurler

Lisha wrote: »

Lol...I'm sure you watched to the end just in case you missed the cycling documentary . ....

On watching of the first Rough Ride that I downloaded today, I was left asking the questions.. i) Why is Paul Kimmage dressed as a plumber ii) Why does he have a big cheesy smile on his face (I've never seen him smile before) and a large tool in his hand iii) I didnt know his wife Anne was látino? :eek:

When I downloaded the proper Rough Ride, I thought it was a fairly dour affair.. Paul Kimmage driving round France in a camper van like a manic depressive tourist complete with his own melancholic string section, beeping at all the French "bastards" in his way as he attempts to outrun that cloud that resides permanently over his head.. Then during the tour, hanging round backstage like Columbo, itching for Chris Froom to make a slip up so that he can pivot his neck, look cross-eyed in to the camera and say "eh Chris, just one more thing"...

I dont think he had any right to simply assume that Chris Froom was guilty without any evidence, aside from history of course, and I think Froom deserved far more "benefit of the doubt" ... I think the most enjoyable parts were where he was with his wife, who seems to be the only person who can get a smile out of him. I thought the best part of the documentary was where she was filming him on the ship only for her to discover that the camera wasnt working, and the inevitable "ah fer f**k sake, is it gonna take 50 takes" from Kimmage.. :pac:

onlyme!

The armstrong lie is a very good documentary for anyone interested in this malarky!

DebDynamite

onlyme! wrote: »

The armstrong lie is a very good documentary for anyone interested in this malarky!

Yep, anyone who enjoyed Rough Rider will definitely enjoy The Armstrong Lie. It's currently on Sky On Demand.

straps

does anyone have a link to watch on line or download???