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Rough Rider (Paul Kimmage Doc)

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  • 28-07-2014 9:39pm
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    Say Your Number
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    Just starting now on RTE 1


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    Lady Chatterton
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    It takes a lot of guts and a streak of madness to be a whistleblower, I've huge admiration for Kimmage and his fellow journalist, David Walsh.


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    lukin
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    MrsD007 wrote: »
    It takes a lot of guts and a streak of madness to be a whistleblower, I've huge admiration for Kimmage and his fellow journalist, David Walsh.

    The mad thing is that Kimmage has now fallen out with Walsh.


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    hotmail.com
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    lukin wrote: »
    The mad thing is that Kimmage has now fallen out with Walsh.

    Over what?


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    RayM
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    I loved that line from his father - "Paul was born perfect in an imperfect world"

    He's such an intense person. More admirable than likeable.


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    Lady Chatterton
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    lukin wrote: »
    The mad thing is that Kimmage has now fallen out with Walsh.
    There seems to be no sign of a disagreement in this documentary. So far David Walsh has made very positive contributions about Kimmage and his work.


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    lukin
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Over what?

    http://www.thescore.ie/paul-kimmage-david-walsh-row-1251374-Jan2014/


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    Lady Chatterton
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    RayM wrote: »
    I loved that line from his father - "Paul was born perfect in an imperfect world"

    He's such an intense person. More admirable than likeable.
    As my Dad would say - "He'd fight with his own shadow".
    I'm enjoying this documentary.


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    RayM
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    MrsD007 wrote: »
    As my Dad would say - "He'd fight with his own shadow".
    I'm enjoying this documentary.

    He'd start a row in an empty room. :pac:


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    hotmail.com
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    I can't take cycling seriously. It's too tainted for me.


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    Lady Chatterton
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    Cycling is more popular than ever. When I'm out walking in the evenings and the weekends, the roads are full of people cycling in their hi-viz gear.


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    Harry Angstrom
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    I'm beginning to realise why Brian O'Driscoll didn't want him to ghost-write his autobiography after all.......


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    Harry Angstrom
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    I can't take cycling seriously. It's too tainted for me.

    It's always been tainted; from the days of Tommy Simpson and even before that.


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    hotmail.com
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    Jesus this programme is drawn out.


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    Lady Chatterton
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    Imagine a dinner party with Paul Kimmage and Roy Keane as guests :eek::D


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    retro:electro
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    It's fup this and fup that


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    RayM
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Jesus this programme is drawn out.

    Most RTE documentaries feel inadequate and short and tend to end abruptly. This one is on the opposite end of the scale. It's on until 11:15...


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    Harry Angstrom
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    Happy days, when Charlie Haughey won the Tour de France.


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    Lady Chatterton
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    Roche wants Lance Armstrong's medals reinstated apparently :rolleyes:

    http://balls.ie/cycling/stephen-roche-thinks-lance-armstrong-should-have-tour-wins-reinstated-paul-kimmage-not-happy/


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    Harry Angstrom
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    Fcuker is beeping the cyclists! What a hypocrite! :D


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    lukin
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    I didn't know himself and Roche were so close.Shame they don't talk anymore.


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    MrsD007 wrote: »
    Cycling is more popular than ever. When I'm out walking in the evenings and the weekends, the roads are full of people cycling in their hi-viz gear.

    I cycle. I have a road bike and a commuter. I do it for fitness and to clear the head.

    I have zero interest in the tour or Cycling. The achievements are too touched for me to celebrate.


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    Harry Angstrom
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    His wife looks better now than on the day of their marriage.


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    Lady Chatterton
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    I thought that was a good documentary, I enjoyed it.


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    nullzero
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    MrsD007 wrote: »
    Imagine a dinner party with Paul Kimmage and Roy Keane as guests :eek::D

    Hosted by Frank Serpico.

    Glazers Out!



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    spiderdan
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    Huge respect for Paul Kimmage and his work, but I didn't enjoy the documentary - found it a bit self indulgent and boring.


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    RikkFlair
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    Harry Angstrom wrote: »
    Happy days, when Charlie Haughey won the Tour de France.

    I think he won Eurovision twice as well.


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    Lady Chatterton
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    'The Field' is on now, I love that film!


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    tom_tarbucket
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Over what?


    He borrowed Paul's bic pen and never gave it back. ; )


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    lukin
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    Very good documentary. Kimmage comes across as very holier than thou but I admire him for standing up to Lance Armstrong's bullying


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    MargeS
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    For most of the documentary I thought Kimmage came across as holier than thou and would pick a fight with his own shadow, a blinkered man on a crusade.
    But as he spoke about Tom Simpson and the 20 or so young men who had died in the 90's AFTER he wrote Rough Ride, I realised that he lived and worked among these people. It's all very personal. He's looking at it from having been on the inside. He sees it as been rotten to the core, dishonest and costing people their lives... for what?
    He's frustrated at the blatant cheating and the governing bodies are supporting it by looking the other way.

    He is a man on a crusade, but someone has to say something. At least he knows what he's talking about.


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