jnlrs aug 2014

vince

When are the results out .

RadioAnalyst

JNLR results wave 2 for 2014 are due out this Thursday at lunchtime.

I'll have a very close eye on whether 2FM manages to overtake Today FM in Dublin. It shouldn't happen but it just might. Also, the performance of TXFM. They need a decent jump in reach and share, particularly in their 6 month book. Finally, the battle between Kenny and O'Rourke will continue to be of interest.

RadioAnalyst

buckfasterer

Hopefully Breakfast Republic crashes and burns big time.

Deedsie

I have come from a position as a long time listener and defender of the Ray Darcy show but I am hopeful the downturn in the shows quality will be reflected in listener numbers.

It's the only thing that will force a change in the 9 to 12 slot... Pat Kenny show is far better in my opinion

Euphoria Intensifies

Head honchos at 98FM will be hoping that this book shows an upturn in listenership figures overall I'm sure. It'll show a bit of a clue as to how many "moved the dial" with Adrian Kennedy. Also really interested in how the Ray Foley show will do - hopefully a follow up on the increased listenership to last time. He's there almost 2 years at this stage, so I'd say if there isn't continuous increases from now on, it's never going to happen.

vince

I gave up lisrening to ray darcy 6 months ago. He sounds like he takes us for granted very lazy presenting. I wonder how much corks red fm have increased it will show 12 weeks of the new line up. I hear red fm on in a lot more places now. Thier music is a lot broader now I must say sounding pretty good.

jmcc

Any early indications on the JNLRs?

Regards...jmcc

smallfridge

It's embargoed until 5. Stations are probably sifting through the results in the last hour. But are prohibited from any public knowledge til later

Chip Whitley

Really hope Ray Foley has gained more. Show deserves it imo. If you like his style you'll know him and JP are the best at it, hope the listenership reflects it.

Like Deedsie above I am a long time listener and defender of Ray D'Arcy but I have felt the show is in decline for months now. If the listenership is down I hope it gives him the kick in the arse the show needs.

Outside of that I wonder if Louise Duffy has improved on KC's figures at lunchtime on Today FM. Probably be too soon to gauge that?

L1011

The Incredible Hulk wrote: »

Outside of that I wonder if Louise Duffy has improved on KC's figures at lunchtime on Today FM. Probably be too soon to gauge that?

It should be just about possible at this stage to start figuring out as this will cover 3 months of her time but really you need a year to know for certain.

Chip Whitley

MYOB wrote: »

It should be just about possible at this stage to start figuring out as this will cover 3 months of her time but really you need a year to know for certain.

Cheers!

blue4ever

Hola

The usual outpourings:

http://www.ilevel.ie/


Good book for N/T all around. The 'Dublin Experiment' on 2FM is a 'busted flush'

C

Twas Not

blue4ever wrote: »

Hola

The usual outpourings:

http://www.ilevel.ie/


Good book for N/T all around. The 'Dublin Experiment' on 2FM is a 'busted flush'

C

Makes F all sense to me. How's that Breakfast Republic rubbish doing ?

hoodwinked

Both Red fm and 96fm are claiming victory online can anyone tell me who won in the 96fm pj vs red fm neil ratings?

blue4ever

hoodwinked wrote: »

Both Red fm and 96fm are claiming victory online can anyone tell me who won in the 96fm pj vs red fm neil ratings?

I don't get that redFM 79,000 (+10%) 96FM 140,000 (-20%) so there's a clear winner

96FM 9.00-12.00 91,000 22%
Red FM 9.00-12.00 35,000 8%

jmcc

Twas Not wrote: »

Makes F all sense to me. How's that Breakfast Republic rubbish doing ?

Awaiting the restoration of the monarchy?

Tubridy -9%. 2FM looks like a bit of a joke at this stage.

Regards...jmcc

heybaby

Twas Not wrote: »

Makes F all sense to me. How's that Breakfast Republic rubbish doing ?

Year on year Breakfast republic is down 15,000 listeners from 126k to 111k, or 12% .. pretty devastating for Dan the Man Healy, Tubs is down 9%, Rick down 7% and Colm on drive down 7% , Nicky and Jenny the only show to go up , 4%. Game on is down 26%, interestingly, after 9 pm, 2FM has virtually no listeners within the pale whatsoever. Pretty atrocious.

Cork_chick_94

Surly Dan Healy will have to resign ?

blue4ever

Twas Not wrote: »

Makes F all sense to me. How's that Breakfast Republic rubbish doing ?

Heading South! 111,000 down 12% on the year (14Q2 V 13Q2)

blue4ever

heybaby wrote: »

Year on year Breakfast republic is down 15,000 listeners from 126k to 111k, or 12% .. pretty devastating for Dan the Man Healy, Tubs is down 9%, Rick down 7% and Colm on drive down 7% , Nicky and Jenny the only show to go up , 4%. Game on is down 26%, interestingly, after 9 pm, 2FM has virtually no listeners within the pale whatsoever. Pretty atrocious.

Nickey figure is flattering year on year - his time slot is an hour longer than the last years mid morning (I have to compare it to something). Book on Book every slot on 2fm weekday is in a fall - bar C.H.

Harry Palmr

Breakfast has a huge spike just after eight and then dies off rapidly only to be resuscitated at ten by Pat Kenny. There’s a odd undulating pattern to his listenership with people diving in and out seemingly. Then at the stroke of twelve all hell breaks out and there seems to be mass defection

Clearly people know that post 12.00pm is when the news and current affairs is jettisoned for arts and guitar twangers.

It might be me, but the presentation of the stats on that site with its white/blue banding is rather annoying - I keep looking past anything on the blue!

Rhys Essien

hoodwinked wrote: »

Both Red fm and 96fm are claiming victory online can anyone tell me who won in the 96fm pj vs red fm neil ratings?

Redfm daily listenership,2014 - 79,000. 2013 - 72,000. 2012 - 80,000

96fm daily listenership,2014 - 140,000. 2013 - 174,000. 2012 - 145,000

The 2012 and 2014 figures of both are almost the same.Would Redfm be happy with only a 7,000 gain after bringing in the superstar host.:D

hoodwinked

blue4ever wrote: »

I don't get that redFM 79,000 (+10%) 96FM 140,000 (-20%) so there's a clear winner

96FM 9.00-12.00 91,000 22%
Red FM 9.00-12.00 35,000 8%

thanks for that, but how are these calculated?


red fm were just saying yesterday they had 100,000 listeners?!? how do they get from that to this?

marno21

Breakfast Republic, Tubridy and Colm Hayes shows are all garbage and need to be binned.

Also, if 2fm wants to target a younger audience and have changed their playlist to reflect this they need to start an advertising campaign fast, never see anything on social media or TV to let me know about the new 2fm. The older listeners may be tuning out because of the change of playlist etc but there's nothing to bring new listeners in.

Majority of people I ask haven't realised that 2fm have changed to be more youth oriented.

hotmail.com

Tubridy getting 'Brian Purcelled' anyway and is moving to RTE One. How he made his way up the ladder in RTE boggles me. He cannot talk to women, an issue he hasn't sorted out and that Gerry Ryan perfected.

radioland

marno21 wrote: »

Breakfast Republic, Tubridy and Colm Hayes shows are all garbage and need to be binned.

Also, if 2fm wants to target a younger audience and have changed their playlist to reflect this they need to start an advertising campaign fast, never see anything on social media or TV to let me know about the new 2fm. The older listeners may be tuning out because of the change of playlist etc but there's nothing to bring new listeners in.

Majority of people I ask haven't realised that 2fm have changed to be more youth oriented.

No fan of 2fn but new schedule just in place . As for IBI calling for action, it's comical. Private companies took the risk - let the market dictate

jmcc

blue4ever wrote: »

The 'Dublin Experiment' on 2FM is a 'busted flush'

Looking at the Dublin figures and if I am reading them right, there's just 1% between 2FM and Lyric FM in Dublin. Wonder if that's down to Marty Whelan's show (he was fired from 2FM for not bringing in the numbers and is now shovelling the same 2FM schlock on Lyric)? 2FM and Lyric FM may well have false competition in that morning show slot. Might be worth looking at the figures for the morning shows to see if there's any overlap and bounce after the respective programmes end.

Regards...jmcc

gavindowd

Breakfast republic down 15,000 listeners since this time last year (as Breakfast with Hector).

FM104 down a bit, yet Chris Barry has held most of Adrian's old audience & the station still sits comfortably in the no.2 spot in the capital.

4FM have permission to christen themselves the "fastest growing radio station" - their Dublin audience nearly doubled since last year! -

Good gains at South East Radio also.

Thanks to the guys at ilevel.ie for the great analysis and graphs! :-)

blue4ever

Harry Palmr wrote: »

It might be me, but the presentation of the stats on that site with its white/blue banding is rather annoying - I keep looking past anything on the blue!

All white is tragic looking / but I've never really given it much thought....until now. I'll have a look and see if there is a less intrusive combination

blue4ever

hoodwinked wrote: »

thanks for that, but how are these calculated?


red fm were just saying yesterday they had 100,000 listeners?!? how do they get from that to this?

100k weekly combined reach? The above are the standard 'listened yesterday' metric - as are all figures on the site.

Frankie Lee

Very bad decline for D'arcy losing 12k with Ian Dempsey up 28k listeners beforehand.
Breakfast Republic have helped drag Tubridy down even further.
Newstalk doing very well obviously with the exception of Hook who probably could do with retiring earlier.
Radio 1 is down all round but Sean O'Rourke has done a solid job of maintaining the majority of listeners. Him and Kenny are benefiting from the ineptitude of Tubridy and D'arcy.

Badabing

D'arcy show is very different from the other 3 so it's unfair to compare, shows go up and down year on year D'arcy was doing well last year while tubs trend is down all the time. D'arcy does need to freshen things up tho

jmcc

So on these figures, is Tubridy for the chop or retirement to RTE1? Can 2FM continue bleeding listeners?

Regards...jmcc

Frankie Lee

Badabing wrote: »

D'arcy show is very different from the other 3 so it's unfair to compare, shows go up and down year on year D'arcy was doing well last year while tubs trend is down all the time. D'arcy does need to freshen things up tho

He benefited from Tubridy for a long time but his bubble has burst, another couple of bad results and Today FM management won't be as incompetent as their 2fm counterparts and take action.

CountyHurler

hotmail.com wrote: »

Tubridy getting 'Brian Purcelled' anyway and is moving to RTE One. How he made his way up the ladder in RTE boggles me. He cannot talk to women, an issue he hasn't sorted out and that Gerry Ryan perfected.

When I found myself in agreement with this particular poster, I had to open the curtains to make sure hell hadn't frozen over... But it's amazing that Tubridy keeps every job he gets in RTE when he's so poor at everything he does...

I'm not sure how RTE ever expected 2FM listeners to take to his moralistic, aloof, conservative reading of the morning newspapers.. Sneering at the people that a lot of working class people idolize... I sometimes tune in to laugh at his stuffiness. On occasion he's even refused to discuss stories that he feels are beneath him..

It seems like the only person who is happy with Tubridy's performance on 2FM is Ray D'Arcy. However, if RTE do the unlikely thing and fire him, I may feel like Homer felt when Flanderszzz' Leftorium closed down.

doc11

marno21 wrote: »

Breakfast Republic, Tubridy and Colm Hayes shows are all garbage and need to be binned.

Also, if 2fm wants to target a younger audience and have changed their playlist to reflect this they need to start an advertising campaign fast, never see anything on social media or TV to let me know about the new 2fm. The older listeners may be tuning out because of the change of playlist etc but there's nothing to bring new listeners in.

Majority of people I ask haven't realised that 2fm have changed to be more youth oriented.

2fm have too much competition, BAI gave regional youth based licenses which severely dented 2fms core audience and with spotify, youtube, itunes, podcasts etc a youth based playlist means nothing, shows need to be personality driven. Look at Louise Duffy on Today FM, decent playlist but more then likely getting the boot for Dermot and Dave. I can remember when 2fm used to do a popular top 40 chart every week, now I couldn't tell you who got to number 1 from one end of the year to another(no one cares anymore).

KingOfFairview

How did TXFM do?

Onthe3rdDay

2FM are very fortunate that it's not in a country were governments take action against unprofitable stations. At this stage it's losing a lot of money and providing almost no service. I don't think that Independent broadcasters should get licence fee money, but they have a point when they give out about 2FM being propped up. I expect major action to be taken shortly, in probably 3 to 5 years.

wnolan1992

Ian Dempsey up 21k since January 2013. Fair play!

Ray D'Arcy down 12k since this time last year, but going up book-on-book so hard to gather any real conclusions as to his trend tbh.

NT doing fantastically in fairness. Delighted for Breakfast as, IMO, they've been doing great radio since Ivan's return. Pat Kenny also overtakes The Hooky Monster as the station's lead in two books. Off the Ball also increasing listenership which, while baffling to me, is good to see.

2FM... poor 'aul 2FM. Is it too early to say Dan Healy has been an unmitigated disaster? Probably is if we're being honest. The real damning results will be Q3 and Q4, and especially Q1 next year when these shows have well and truly bedded in.


Any word on Ray Foley or the regional stations?

eiresandra

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Any word on Ray Foley or the regional stations?

I heard Foley is up 5k. All the info on the regionals is in the ilevel blog. Good book for all of them I think, particularly Beat.

Regarding Red vs 96, you have to remember the new lineup is only on for 3 months of the 12-month survey. While their figures 12 months and 24 months ago weren't bad, 6 months ago they were in a very bad place. I believe the six month figure in this book is phenomenal.

foxtrot101

hotmail.com wrote: »

Tubridy getting 'Brian Purcelled' anyway and is moving to RTE One.

Is that definite, or is it still a rumour? I have say...he doesn't deserve the 'get out of jail card' that moving back to Radio 1 would be. Due to the bomb proof nature of Radio 1's listenership figures, any show he was given is bound to have decent numbers and then RTE can carry on telling us what a great broadcaster young Tubridy really is.:rolleyes:

blue4ever

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Any word on Ray Foley?

2014: 07.00-10.00 41,000 - 4%

2013: 06.00-10.00 35,000 - 3%


Better that previous - but should never have n=been moved!

padd b1975

Any numbers for News At One?

I feel it has been seriously weakened since SO'R left by being presented by whoever is at a loose end on a particular day.

wnolan1992

padd b1975 wrote: »

Any numbers for News At One?

I feel it has been seriously weakened since SO'R left by being presented by whoever is at a loose end on a particular day.

Down 35k year on year.

twinklerunner

doc11 wrote: »

. I can remember when 2fm used to do a popular top 40 chart every week, now I couldn't tell you who got to number 1 from one end of the year to another(no one cares anymore).

That's where you're wrong .. my 14 year old daughter cares and could tell you who's number one this week and has had the most hits/number ones this year ... just like we did when we were her age .. but she certainly doesn't get that info from 2FM. In fact, I'm sure that she doesn't even know it exists. She gets her music from SPIN1038, the TV music channels & YouTube.

bbability

Anyone got 2fm weekend figures?

channelsurfer2

so the game on audience is gone to off the ball or at least a lot of it if the figures are correct? and will leahy must be smiling now at least a small bit if not in public with those figures, maybe even Hector:)

doc11

twinklerunner wrote: »

That's where you're wrong .. my 14 year old daughter cares and could tell you who's number one this week and has had the most hits/number ones this year ... just like we did when we were her age .. but she certainly doesn't get that info from 2FM. In fact, I'm sure that she doesn't even know it exists. She gets her music from SPIN1038, the TV music channels & YouTube.

I know there's charts on other media channels hence why the flagship national chart has lost any meaning. Every night there's a chart on spin, iradio, tv music channels such as box, kiss etc. If 2fm did change to a pure youth station who's going to listen, when people can get there music fix on so many other mediums/stations instantly. Audiences are getting to disperse to enable 2fm to pull in the large audiences in once did, I'd say nearly all iradios and Spin SW listeners would previously been 2fms.

soc160

doc11 wrote: »

I know there's charts on other media channels hence why the flagship national chart has lost any meaning. Every night there's a chart on spin, iradio, tv music channels such as box, kiss etc. If 2fm did change to a pure youth station who's going to listen, when people can get there music fix on so many other mediums/stations instantly. Audiences are getting to disperse to enable 2fm to pull in the large audiences in once did, I'd say nearly all iradios and Spin SW listeners would previously been 2fms.

On the subject of young people and chart radio etc.. Spin had a very good book, increases throughout the station, particularly the young listeners, even day the numbers for young listerns in general is declining Spin are retaining a lot of those listeners. They have 42.3% of the market share(not sure what that translates too in actual listeners) compare that to 2FM in Dublin with 2.4, less than Radio 1.

Spin, from listening have made radio a bit more fun, they are a new music station and actually follow through with that, they don't keep hammering home the same music everyone else is playing (often playing to death IMO), personally i'm sick of hearing Pharell - Happy, One Republic - Counting Stars, Hozier - Take me to Church, yet other stations keep churning them out.

I know spin do play the same music a lot but they also integrate new music alot and have people who are in touch with current music and that's what the young people want, they can get music from anywhere now so Spin are an example of how to access them.. I mean compare it to 98 who are spending so much advertising their new shows, I never see or hear adverts for Spin yet they keep increasing listenership.

wnolan1992

soc160 wrote: »

On the subject of young people and chart radio etc.. Spin had a very good book, increases throughout the station, particularly the young listeners, even day the numbers for young listerns in general is declining Spin are retaining a lot of those listeners. They have 42.3% of the market share(not sure what that translates too in actual listeners) compare that to 2FM in Dublin with 2.4, less than Radio 1.

Spin, from listening have made radio a bit more fun, they are a new music station and actually follow through with that, they don't keep hammering home the same music everyone else is playing (often playing to death IMO), personally i'm sick of hearing Pharell - Happy, One Republic - Counting Stars, Hozier - Take me to Church, yet other stations keep churning them out.

I know spin do play the same music a lot but they also integrate new music alot and have people who are in touch with current music and that's what the young people want, they can get music from anywhere now so Spin are an example of how to access them.. I mean compare it to 98 who are spending so much advertising their new shows, I never see or hear adverts for Spin yet they keep increasing listenership.

Hear, hear.

I think Spin SW has improved dramatically in the last year or two. Their Breakfast slot rivals anything else available here, the Zoo Crew in the evenings is good craic, what little I've heard of Nessa Harney is decent (if not groundbreaking or worldbeating), and I've long been an advocate of their weekend schedule. I mean, just listen to Wingnut's show on Sunday mornings or even Pop Raidio on Saturdays to get an idea of how yoof radio can still be done.

And I'd never actually thought about Spin's music that way, but now that you say it, yeah, they seem to play a song to death or a week or two, then integrate new stuff, whereas Today FM were playing Clean Bandit 4 times a day every day for nigh on 4 months...

radioland

padd b1975 wrote: »

Any numbers for News At One?

I feel it has been seriously weakened since SO'R left by being presented by whoever is at a loose end on a particular day.

Far as I'm aware it's Aine Lawlor Mon-Thur & Richard Crowley Friday -