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GGG Geale / Perez Jennings

  • 23-07-2014 12:51pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭


    This one seams to be overlooked cos of Fury Chisora being on the same night but should be two good fights.

    It'll be interesting to see if Geale can take GGG out of his comfort zone as no one so far has managed to trouble him.

    Mike Perez has it all to prove so long been known as a hot and cold fighter has a big win on tv last November and then a draw last Jan where he looked really ordinary.

    Here's a piece HBO did on GGG & Geale

    http://youtu.be/m0FdXQLPig0?list=PLXf2yfCXqyorj8We2Dnvpwi1L4vn9qRpw


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 748 ✭✭✭boxer.fan


    I can't see anything other than a tough night for Geale. He's a likeable boxer & deserved his title win but GGG is leagues ahead in terms of ability.

    If Perez can switch it on this time it will make for an impressive bout. Good weekend of boxing coming up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    Assuming Golovkin gets past Geale, what's next for him? If he wants an opponent with a name he's probably going to be waiting for some of the JMWs to move up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    Yea if Alvarez came up to meet him he'd be delighted I reckon. Seems to have no interest in moving up to SMW


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Strongbow10


    Hopefully Perez has done the preparation to go 12 rounds, I always have my doubts. He is very talented (but not as talented as some make him out to be), but he will always struggle against a durable pressure fighter who can easily last 12 rounds.

    He has some of the shortest arms you will ever see on a heavyweight too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    HigginsJ wrote: »
    Yea if Alvarez came up to meet him he'd be delighted I reckon. Seems to have no interest in moving up to SMW

    Why would he when the middleweight division will soon be home to Canelo and Cotto.

    Canelo might actually fight him too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭rebelomar


    Mike weighed in at 242lbs. Didn't look great on the the scales to be honest. Jennings looks in unbelievable condition


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    rebelomar wrote: »
    Mike weighed in at 242lbs. Didn't look great on the the scales to be honest. Jennings looks in unbelievable condition

    7lbs heavier than the Mago fight. Would be great to see him win but I think it will end disappointingly for him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭rebelomar


    HigginsJ wrote: »
    7lbs heavier than the Mago fight. Would be great to see him win but I think it will end disappointingly for him

    i had hoped he would be in tip top shape working with Adam Booth but not sure how long they had together.

    Hopefully he'll do the business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Perez is a solid outsider in the bookies? I thought it would be closer than that?

    Total banker anyway. This is like Rigo v Donaire all over again.

    http://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/mike-perez-v-bryant-jennings/winner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    What time is Perez - Jennings expected to get underway tonight?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    HigginsJ wrote: »
    What time is Perez - Jennings expected to get underway tonight?

    Perez vs Jennings at 2:30am
    Golovkin vs Geale at 3:00am

    Coverage beginning on sky sports 1 at 1:30am


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    Purses for tonight

    Golovkin - $750k
    Geale - $600k
    Jennings - $130k
    Perez - $60k

    Perez is being ripped off here.Thats equal to €44674.Peanuts.For the main arena at the Garden in an eliminator fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 748 ✭✭✭boxer.fan


    Smoger is probably the best in the business these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    Anyone confident Perez can win?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭RodVelvet


    Fingers crossed for Mike, someones O has got to go. I've thrown a few quid on after the boys in the studio said it. With Mike we'll know what kind of form he's in after a round or two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    **** sake Sky :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    RodVelvet wrote: »
    Fingers crossed for Mike, someones O has got to go. I've thrown a few quid on after the boys in the studio said it. With Mike we'll know what kind of form he's in after a round or two.

    Looks ok


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    pac_man wrote: »
    I think he can. 10 rounds will be to his advantage, just hope he doesn't gas out. Don't rate Jennings.

    It's a 12 rounder which is a worry.

    Not much in it so far


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    pac_man wrote: »
    Ive Perez winning the first three but they're close rounds. Ive a feeling the american judges will have it otherwise.

    Yea you'd suspect the flailing arms by Jennings will give them a reason to score it for him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭RodVelvet


    I don't want Perez to get gassed but you feel Jennings would get dispatched here if he lifted his work rate. I think Jennings doesn't like the power of these punches.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭rebelomar


    Perez gassing badly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    :( he's gone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Tobyglen


    Perez condition is shocking, cracking skills but way out of shape, he's actually fat.

    Hope he can squeeze this through but I'm fearful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭bellybuster12


    Mike needs a KO, simple as


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    What a waste of talent. ****ing conditioning killing him again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Tobyglen


    You're conditioning is there?? Booth talking through his hole.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Tobyglen


    Guess he's back to being a Cuban now? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    Hard to call but gut instinct says Jennings will get it by a couple of rounds at this point


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭bellybuster12


    The score cards will read a wide margin to jennings, obv hope im wrong


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭rebelomar


    I don't even care if he wins... His conditioning is a disgrace. Going nowhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭RodVelvet


    Looks like the bookies know more than I thought, LOL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭rebelomar


    What's so annoying is he was clearly the better fighter by a mile for the first 5 rounds. Bloody conditioning... That should be your base... I believe he would have stopped him if he was lighter


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Tobyglen


    Doesn't have the work ethic to get to the top. Waste of talent. Jennings was hopeless and should have been dispatched easily by someone with Mike's talent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    No one to blame but himself again. Lose a stone and he won't be beaten


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Tobyglen


    Gutted to see that, sad to see talent wasted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    Perez deserved that defeat, only himself to blame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    pac_man wrote: »
    Perez and Solis. Two heavyweights that could be something so much more. I thought Booth would be perfect for Perez but there must have been something up behind the scenes.

    I can't remember who said it in one of the treads on here but they were saying Perez was basically enjoying life a little too much.

    This could go one of two ways, he either realises what he needs to do and works with booth to get there or he gets deflated and let's it all slip away. Sadly I fear I know which outcome is more likely.

    Looking forward to seeing GGG back in action now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    Golovkin inside to complete the treble with Jennings and Lawler in the UFC, confident enough.

    I think G-G-G Golovkin had a better ring to it than triple G Golovkin (how irrelevant!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    pac_man wrote: »
    Yeah i remember reading that alright. It's hard to say if there's psychological damage but i think it was fairly evident tonight that he just cam under prepared. A pity.

    Talent will only take you so far, he is lacking that final little bit to make him a champ.

    GGG is a machine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    Sweet finish


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    Too good. Would love to see GGG up against someone with real raw power. So confident, controlling it from the middle of the ring, no weaknesses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    qwabercd wrote: »
    Too good. Would love to see GGG up against someone with real raw power. So confident, controlling it from the middle of the ring, no weaknesses.

    Who would have the power to trouble him though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭megadodge


    That was very impressive. Golovkin is definitely the best middleweight out there. I don't think Cotto would stand a chance against him and unfortunately I don't expect to see them fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭magma69


    I'm probably enjoying this GIF more than I should be.

    DimwittedHollowGelada.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,372 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Cotto will get murdered by GGG. Still think a move to 168 lbs is risky for GGG. Can look good at 160 knocking out Macklins and Geales, but I can't see it against big SMW boxers. GGG isn't that big a MW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    The unfortunate truth is that Golovkin is a real quality middleweight in a very weak era for the division. I'd love to have seen him in there with some of the big names from the past 25 years.

    I don't think he should go to 168. Doesn't make sense from a competitive nor a business standpoint. If Canelo beats Cotto he'll fight him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭megadodge


    I don't see why GGG should move anywhere. Why not unify? He's not a big middleweight by any stretch, so would be well out-sized at super-middle, but like Hagler before him, he should just stay and become the dominant king of his division. It has become a sort of religious belief now that boxers have to move through the divisions. That wasn't always the way.

    If he were to fight either Cotto or Canelo, they would be huge fights, where he would earn an enormous purse and also get a big name on his ledger were he to win (I think he'd easily beat Cotto and beat Canelo in a much tougher fight).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,372 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Henno30 wrote: »
    The unfortunate truth is that Golovkin is a real quality middleweight in a very weak era for the division. I'd love to have seen him in there with some of the big names from the past 25 years.
    .

    I agree. He has looked so comfortable. He's beating men who would have been cannon fodder in most eras. GGG doesn't look like an ATG for me. Great for his time, but he probably wouldn't have got a look in against the best MWs of the past 30 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    walshb wrote: »
    I agree. He has looked so comfortable. He's beating men who would have been cannon fodder in most eras. GGG doesn't look like an ATG for me. Great for his time, but he probably wouldn't have got a look in against the best MWs of the past 30 years.

    I think until his chin gets fully tested, we can't full know the answer to this. If he has a rock solid chin (and there is nothing to date to suggest he hasn't), I think he would get a look in against the likes Hagler/Sugar Ray Leonard.

    The funny thing about boxing and other sports is people can often tend to look back on historic fighters in a nostalgic way, that actually ends up underrating the current breed. It is undoubtedly a weak division at the moment, but the manner in which Golovkin has cleaned it out is breathtakking. If he could take the power of, for example, Hagler, I think Hagler could have real difficulty in dealing with the power, intensity and accuracy of GGG.

    Let's not forget that Macklin was very competive against sergio martinez, who was ranked high in the P4P rankings at the time. Now, I'm not for one minute suggesting that Macklin is a great fighter (he's far from it) but the relative performances of Martinez and GGG says a lot imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 748 ✭✭✭boxer.fan


    I think GGG is the real deal at middleweight. He clearly has a decent chin having come through an excellent amateur career where it would have been tested regularly. The thing I like about him is that he generates massive respect in the ring. His opponents very quickly become reluctant to commit to any punches, its almost like he anticipates what they are going to do next and counters it before they get it off. Very impressive. Thats where everyone wants to be as a boxer.


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