3 wood off the tee

Moggaman

Why can I nail my r11 3 wood down the middle every time but have zero consistency with the r11 driver... The clubs aren't that different to each other

blackwhite

More loft.
Generally a shorter shaft on the club, which means it's easier to find the sweet spot.

snaphook

Spin Rate may be too high with the driver.

Montgolfier

Moggaman wrote: »

Why can I nail my r11 3 wood down the middle every time but have zero consistency with the r11 driver... The clubs aren't that different to each other

You probably know the limit of your 3 wood so you don't kill it.
The driver though caught well and hit as hard as you can could be huge, not to mention the bragging rights.

Moggaman

Montgolfier wrote: »

You probably know the limit of your 3 wood so you don't kill it.
The driver though caught well and hit as hard as you can could be huge, not to mention the bragging rights.

Honestly , I think it's a pride thing .... I kill the 3 wood

GreeBo

Do you hit down on the 3 wood?

Tones69

GreeBo wrote: »

Do you hit down on the 3 wood?

99% of golfers hit 3w better than driver. Shorter shaft, more loft. I love my 3 wood and can pump it out a good distance. Id use it on most par 4s under 420 yds

m r c

Moggaman not being at all smart, just nail the 3 wood down the middle all day long. It took henrik stenson to world no 2, would have been no 1 if his form had continued. Don't worry about the driver.

m r c

One other thing the stock made for blur shaft in the r11 drivers were notoriously bad. Just google them there's tons about the online

Moggaman

Thanks everyone for yer replies... No I don't choke down ... Set up pretty much the same. I'm off 7.8 btw.
Shaft on my 3w is motore f1 and stock shaft on driver? Yer sayin this could be helping the inconsistency ...

GreeBo

Moggaman wrote: »

Thanks everyone for yer replies... No I don't choke down ... Set up pretty much the same. I'm off 7.8 btw.
Shaft on my 3w is motore f1 and stock shaft on driver? Yer sayin this could be helping the inconsistency ...

Not choke down...hit down, descending blow, divot?

ForeRight

I like to hit my 3wood when a draw is essential off the tee. I find it much easier to draw that than my driver.

I'd say it's only 15-20 yards shorter than my driver when it's struck clean too

Moggaman

GreeBo wrote: »

Not choke down...hit down, descending blow, divot?

No divot Greebo..

OldMrBrennan83

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charlieIRL

Tones69 wrote: »

99% of golfers hit 3w better than driver. Shorter shaft, more loft. I love my 3 wood and can pump it out a good distance. Id use it on most par 4s under 420 yds

I'm in that 1% then, hate using a 3 wood!! Love my 5 iron though!!

TheDoc

I just lumped three 3 woods for sale. I've gone through three different models. Can't hit any of them with consistency. Yet hit my driver without problems.

Getting myself a 17/19 degree hybrid, since I got my 21* one lovely.

Can be a few things with the driver. If they are both the same club, they should both have the same shaft( obviously different size) but I think you said the driver is OEM and the 3wood is not?

Taylor Made provide very little options when it comes to shafts. Did you get fitted for either? It's possible that the 3wood shaft is basically perfect for you, while the OEM driver one is not.

What's the problem with the driver, is the trajectory sporadic and unpredictable?

Moggaman

TheDoc wrote: »

I just lumped three 3 woods for sale. I've gone through three different models. Can't hit any of them with consistency. Yet hit my driver without problems.

Getting myself a 17/19 degree hybrid, since I got my 21* one lovely.

Can be a few things with the driver. If they are both the same club, they should both have the same shaft( obviously different size) but I think you said the driver is OEM and the 3wood is not?

Taylor Made provide very little options when it comes to shafts. Did you get fitted for either? It's possible that the 3wood shaft is basically perfect for you, while the OEM driver one is not.

What's the problem with the driver, is the trajectory sporadic and unpredictable?

Never got fitted for either but the motore f1 on the 3 w feels good .. Think I will change shafts.
My shot is a pretty severe hook... Rarely slice.. I'm right handed.
An earlier poster said tons of shafts online but the motore f1 seems very expensive. Any good alternatives on the market?

TheDoc

Moggaman wrote: »

Never got fitted for either but the motore f1 on the 3 w feels good .. Think I will change shafts.
My shot is a pretty severe hook... Rarely slice.. I'm right handed.
An earlier poster said tons of shafts online but the motore f1 seems very expensive. Any good alternatives on the market?

Taylor Made normally do their fittings around the summertime. Have a check with McGuirks and Halpenny. I'd say they will have Taylor Made fitting days coming up in the next month or so. Get yourself booked in there, bring both clubs and explain the problem.

They will tell you quickly if the issue is shaft related.

What's your normal ball flight , is it a draw by any chance?

Moggaman

TheDoc wrote: »

Taylor Made normally do their fittings around the summertime. Have a check with McGuirks and Halpenny. I'd say they will have Taylor Made fitting days coming up in the next month or so. Get yourself booked in there, bring both clubs and explain the problem.

They will tell you quickly if the issue is shaft related.

What's your normal ball flight , is it a draw by any chance?

It's a draw..most of the time!

m r c

Just FYI moggaman the motoref1 is one of my all time fav shafts and I hated the blur.

TheDoc

Moggaman wrote: »

It's a draw..most of the time!

Well here is something that was happening to me, no guarantee it's happening to you. I found Taylor Made drivers lighter. I was using a Titelist when I came back to the game and got myself a Burner driver. But kept hitting low hooks. Even snap hooks.

I went back to my Titleist and was hitting lovely draws again and couldn't figure it out. One of those guys who has a genius golfing brain, yet cant put it into practice himself, spotted out the problem for me.

Because the Taylor Made was lighter, I was swinging that little bit faster, but on impact, was extending the clubhead out towards the target. I was wrapping it around too early, and what was basically happening was the clubface closing.

To remedy this just went out for a few practice rounds, put a tee out in front of the ball I was striking, and made sure I hit the teeafter impact. Pretty quickly it was gone.

Might be worth something to check. TM OEM shafts are lighter in my opinion, and that can cause increased acceleration and you might be wrapping into your finish ahead of time.

dan_ep82

Don't carry a three wood at the minute, it was as erratic as the driver with the trade off of less distance.

I brought the brothers out for a round ( 910F) and while I hit a few good shots most were better off with the hybrid

spacecoyote

I've hit one drive in my last 4 rounds.

Hitting the 3wood & hybrids long & straight so not really feeling the difference at the moment.

Do want to get the driver back firing again though. Even though I'm competitive without it, would be nicer to be hitting short irons in more often

charlieIRL

spacecoyote wrote: »

I've hit one drive in my last 4 rounds.

Hitting the 3wood & hybrids long & straight so not really feeling the difference at the moment.

Do want to get the driver back firing again though. Even though I'm competitive without it, would be nicer to be hitting short irons in more often

Well the way you hit that hybrid I wouldn't be in too much of a rush!

Tones69

spacecoyote wrote: »

I've hit one drive in my last 4 rounds.

Hitting the 3wood & hybrids long & straight so not really feeling the difference at the moment.

Do want to get the driver back firing again though. Even though I'm competitive without it, would be nicer to be hitting short irons in more often

Love my stage 2 3 & 5 woods too, crackin woods!

spacecoyote

Tones69 wrote: »

Love my stage 2 3 & 5 woods too, crackin woods!

Yeah, only have the stage 2 3wood, my hybrids are the stage 1 & still great club's to hit

alxmorgan

spacecoyote wrote: »

Yeah, only have the stage 2 3wood, my hybrids are the stage 1 & still great club's to hit

Liable to miss left perchance ?

Rikand

i never even owned a driver until i was a single figure handicap golfer.

Always used a 3-wood up until then

spacecoyote

alxmorgan wrote: »

Liable to miss left perchance ?

With driver my big miss would be left alright. My bad shot would be a slice more often than a hook

alxmorgan

spacecoyote wrote: »

With driver my big miss would be left alright. My bad shot would be a slice more often than a hook

Just wondering as I have a stage 1 RBZ 19 degree hybrid and miss is definitely left on it. I could be slicing driver and still hooking it

Tones69

Rikand wrote: »

i never even owned a driver until i was a single figure handicap golfer.

Always used a 3-wood up until then

3 wood such a good club isnt it, i love mine and prob dont hit it enough as i love crackin driver.
Id definitely advise people who dont hit or dont get on with driver to go get fit for a good 3w or even the new sldr mini driver. Bice big forgiving head but can hit it tee'd right down or even off the deck.

spacecoyote

alxmorgan wrote: »

Just wondering as I have a stage 1 RBZ 19 degree hybrid and miss is definitely left on it. I could be slicing driver and still hooking it

Yeah, i'll tend to slice a bad drive myself but could definitely pull the hybrid left.

To be honest, I find the 2 stage 1 hybrids the easiest clubs to work in my bag

the greatest game

It has taken me a good 10 years to realise lately that to decommision the driver from the tee. Now we have had good times together, long hitter, used it well for long periods, but she has let me down when I needed her most, in matchplay..and wild hooks and slices that end up with scratchs or losing matchs.
I was out golfing two weeks ago with a senior citizen , nice golfer, he was pinging a three wood from the tee all day, I said to myself there must be logic to this, I pulled out my fairway 3 wood and done likewise, using it since, nice low shots that go a mile, stopped bringing the driver in the back, sold 2 of them the other night just to be sure.
Even reverting to using a 7 wood for some holes..its a magic club !

DUMP THE DRIVER -

galwaylad14

There's something very wrong with your swing if you can't hit a driver, I'd be focusing on getting lessons if you can hit the 3 wood but not the driver.

Think about it, look at the size of your driver and look at your 3 wood. Driver should be an easier club to hit.

Tones69

galwaylad14 wrote: »

There's something very wrong with your swing if you can't hit a driver, I'd be focusing on getting lessons if you can hit the 3 wood but not the driver.

Think about it, look at the size of your driver and look at your 3 wood. Driver should be an easier club to hit.

3 wood shorter shaft and a lot more loft which makes a lot easier to hit consistently. Easier to shape the ball with a wood also. I wouldnt go criticising swings just cos he cant hit driver etc. not always the case

Senna

Driver might only go 20 yards further than a 3 wood but those 20 yards can put you in a lot more trouble, it could be the difference between fairway and nee high rough, both hit with the same type of ball flight.
I'm a great believer in leaving the driver in the bag for as long as you can, hybrids and 3 woods normally keep you in play, but big wide fairway or no real trouble, then let her rip.

ForeRight

galwaylad14 wrote: »

There's something very wrong with your swing if you can't hit a driver, I'd be focusing on getting lessons if you can hit the 3 wood but not the driver.

Think about it, look at the size of your driver and look at your 3 wood. Driver should be an easier club to hit.

Yeah henrik Stenson only took over the world of golf last year hitting 3 wood off the tee sure

harpsman

Montgolfier wrote: »

You probably know the limit of your 3 wood so you don't kill it.
The driver though caught well and hit as hard as you can could be huge, not to mention the bragging rights.

If you figure it out, can you tell Tiger Woods,Phil Mickelson and lots of the worlds top golfers. Theres just a huge difference between 3w and driver.

whizbang

I'm another 1% So does that make 2%..?

As said above, I will always prefer the size of the driver head, its just so much bigger,

GreeBo

whizbang wrote: »

I'm another 1% So does that make 2%..?

As said above, I will always prefer the size of the driver head, its just so much bigger,

And so much straighter....The face that is.

Montgolfier

harpsman wrote: »

If you figure it out, can you tell Tiger Woods,Phil Mickelson and lots of the worlds top golfers. Theres just a huge difference between 3w and driver.

Them chaps don't use stock shafts, bit of a difference. I bought a tour shaft for my driver it has 2.8 torque resists twisting. That's means I can lay into it without having to worry about a massive slice. I still have the odd slice but it's not 2 fairways over right.

harpsman

Montgolfier wrote: »

Them chaps don't use stock shafts, bit of a difference. I bought a tour shaft for my driver it has 2.8 torque resists twisting. That's means I can lay into it without having to worry about a massive slice. I still have the odd slice but it's not 2 fairways over right.

Fair enough-just wondering what is the reason that the stiffer shaft is so much harder to hit?

Also was readin that alot of em got specially made driving irons for the Open- apparently for pros only.

Tones69

Montgolfier wrote: »

Them chaps don't use stock shafts, bit of a difference. I bought a tour shaft for my driver it has 2.8 torque resists twisting. That's means I can lay into it without having to worry about a massive slice. I still have the odd slice but it's not 2 fairways over right.

With all due respect. You havent got a breeze what ur talking about

Montgolfier

Tones69 wrote: »

With all due respect. You havent got a breeze what ur talking about

Maybe I should give Foregolf all my money so they can educate me. Oh all due respect back at ya

Tones69

Montgolfier wrote: »

Maybe I should give Foregolf all my money so they can educate me. Oh all due respect back at ya

I spent 50 quid at FG soooo dont really see how thats a dig at me

Montgolfier

Tones69 wrote: »

I spent 50 quid at FG soooo dont really see how thats a dig at me

No worse than your sweeping statement mate:) which was based on what?

Tones69

Montgolfier wrote: »

No worse than your sweeping statement mate:) which was based on what?

It was based on your nonsense statement of "ive a low torque tour shaft which means i can lay on it as hard as i like and it wont slice". Thats all

Montgolfier

Tones69 wrote: »

It was based on your nonsense statement of "ive a low torque tour shaft which means i can lay on it as hard as i like and it wont slice". Thats all

I can explain may be long winded.
low torque means if you catch the toe the club won't twist as much therefore less slice.
Heavier shafts are suitable for golfers with a strong transition (as it loading the shaft). Heavier shafts tend to have stronger mechanical properties including low torque. I don't mean all shafts as different shafts are designed for different swings.
Lighter stock shafts 55g are will give you more swing speed but the risk of the higher torque means toe hits could have poor results like a slice.
Smooth transition golfers should have no problem hitting light shafts even more flexible shafts.
There are so many variables I'd be here all night, I never mentioned head weight, spined shafts etc. but basically if your impact is all over the face and your swing is reasonable buy a shaft with low torque. You may lose a little distance but no point hitting 320yds out of bounds.

Tones69

Montgolfier wrote: »

I can explain may be long winded.
low torque means if you catch the toe the club won't twist as much therefore less slice.
Heavier shafts are suitable for golfers with a strong transition (as it loading the shaft). Heavier shafts tend to have stronger mechanical properties including low torque. I don't mean all shafts as different shafts are designed for different swings.
Lighter stock shafts 55g are will give you more swing speed but the risk of the higher torque means toe hits could have poor results like a slice.
Smooth transition golfers should have no problem hitting light shafts even more flexible shafts.
There are so many variables I'd be here all night, I never mentioned head weight, spined shafts etc. but basically if your impact is all over the face and your swing is reasonable buy a shaft with low torque. You may lose a little distance but no point hitting 320yds out of bounds.

Your gonna educate me on the topic are you, thats super stuff right there, keep going

Montgolfier

Tones69 wrote: »

Your gonna educate me on the topic are you, thats super stuff right there, keep going

Bit silly of me to try to explain something so technical on a forum. Ah well live an learn:)

Tones69

Montgolfier wrote: »

Bit silly of me to try to explain something so technical on a forum. Ah well live an learn:)

Are you for real or just jokin around