Beef General Thread

epfff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123396278#Comment_123396278

Medicine records

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123396278#Comment_123396278

Medicine records and fill in all the boad bia book. A bait plan if you use rat poison. Any receipt for silage plastic.

You will pass or fail on your Bord Bia book

Lime Tree Farm

Go through the medicine/ dosing cabinet, check expiry dates.

Lime Tree Farm

Do you have to log onto Bord Bia and fill out some questionnaire before the audit on housing, turn out dates etc

morphy87

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123396465#Comment_123396465

yes you do

funkey_monkey

Got a year old dairy beef bullock here that isn't performing well. Have dosed him with Tribex and closemectin over the winter. Also gave him a mineral drench before turn out last week (Growvite).

He weighs just under 300kg which is a poor adg. What I notice about him is that he is holding into his winter coat.

Before I get the vet out to check him any ideas as what might be up with him? No outward signs of illness other than poor weight gain and holding onto winter coat.

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123445282#Comment_123445282

I presume when you say no outward sign-off illness he is not scouring etc. Was the closemectin pour on or injection.not a huge fan of closemectin pour on.

Dose him again with an ivermectin super/plus product ( like Bimectin plus) give him a good shot of copper. Products like Grovite are short acting and you could give it to.him.3-4 times a week apart before you see results.

When he is not scouring it's unlikly to be stomach fluke but he could have a liver infected with nature liver fluke.

funkey_monkey

Not scouring. Closemectin was a pour on. Then the Tribex was a drench.

He's 14 months and weighs 295kg. So doing about 0.68kg/day since birth.

Would a chelated mineral drench be better then the Growvite? I think we have Virbamec Super about somewhere so I'll get that for him at the weekend.

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123445625#Comment_123445625

Grovite has copper in it as,well so you need to be aware of that when giving copper injection. I give the copper injectiin and the ivermectin super ASAP. I hold the Grovite for a 2-3 weeks. I be giving 4-6 mls of copper and seevif any results in 10-14 days. I expect this will solve your issue with the ivermectin plus

kk.man

I've a lad similar here. Winter coat only fallen off him now. He got biomectin plus just after turn out. I gave him two copper injections 4.5 ml each time. I estimate he is 350kg. I contemplate Grovite but didn't have time with work.

He is thriving now.

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123445829#Comment_123445829

I am considering giving copper injection at turn out in future

kk.man

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123445895#Comment_123445895

This fella was bought bad by myself but his eyes are alert. The copper was probably overdosed for his weight but he has turned the corner.

Siamsa Sessions

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Maybe the old people were right again - I remember my grandfather putting a spoon of bluestone into the cattle dose years ago.

Half related: some of the first-calvers here still had a reddish coat since they went out on grass. I gave them 5ml of multi-min 2 weeks ago and you can see the red hair falling off them since then. That might have happened anyway, but I'm giving the multi-min some credit and I'll probably try it on any calves or weanlings that look a bit off in the next few months.

Who2

I dosed all the sucklers here last winter with bluestone as a trial and only gave anything that was really watery a dose of levafas diamond as well. I’ve never had them in as good condition and nearly all settled back in calf already (if I can go off repeats)

limo_100

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I gave multi-min on turnout to all stock some still holding onto there hair but more are cleaning up, I also left them a copper lick block asset that they destroyed in 10days I need to get them a new one maybe a phosphorus one would be better. Do you think a copper injection alone with multi min would be good or is it too much copper?

tabby aspreme

How long would you have to wait between copper injections, everything got it here leaving the shed but 2 still have an orange tinge, they are also getting 3kg of ration

148multi

Multi min on it's own, it'sthe fastest acting mineral that I have ever used.

Siamsa Sessions

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123446726#Comment_123446726

What weight/age are they roughly? I'm assuming they're 2-year olds, are they, if they're getting 3kg of ration?

If so and they're otherwise thriving, I'd be inclined to leave them alone for now. The sunshine, grass, and 3kg should help knock it off them.

Bass Reeves

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123446591#Comment_123446591

Multimin is extremely expensive imo. I have used bluestone before melt 1/4 t-spoin in hot water per head and mix with molasses and pour it along troughs. It's a bit time consuming.

Definitely going to use copper more.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123446689#Comment_123446689

When you say destroyed it was it that they just used it up. I would not used both Multimin and copper together

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123447393#Comment_123447393

They liked it up there's a few chunks of it left but they licked it up was a copper lick I'll get them another one anyway. Multi-min is very expensive I agree but I'm suppose to give them a second shot in 3 months but might just use the copper injection for that its a fraction of the cost

148multi

I've used copper bolus,injections and chelated copper, but find multi min the best. That said I am feeding chelated minerals at the moment because I have it bought of alltech a few years ago.

Jonnyc135

Just looking at the independent.ie today and have remarked a lot of media coverage lately between radio etc on Beef prices and how it have gone up at Farmer/Producer level - I honestly believe this is a narrative formation for the push through of the Mercursor deal. They will swing this as being cheaper for the consumer and bring down cost of living.

It sickening in a way, as we are now only getting prices that are sustainable, but when I see stuff in the media like “CSO has trawled through its records and cannot find a higher increase for beef prices paid at the farm gate than 40.04%”.

The Narative is formed, the Joe soap are annoyed and will blame the farmer or producer for gouging, set the stage for the spin for cheaper food prices for the Mercursor deal and watch the “Traditional” working family farms parties of FF and FG throw us under the bus yet again.

The stage is set, it’s only a matter of time before they rug is pulled

bogman_bass

there is a timed sale on MartEye of pedigree Parthenaise ATM. Seems to be a bit of value there is anybody is on the market

High bike

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123449862#Comment_123449862

Wheres that sale?

tanko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123450521#Comment_123450521

It’s on Marteye, go into timed sales on the top right of the Marteye home page. It’s not starting until tomorrow

High bike

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123451459#Comment_123451459

Ok sound thanks

RobinBanks

Hi guys. I didn't know where to post this so apologies in advance!

I've a question for ye.

I've taken control of around 30 acres of decent ground. I've 10 yearling bullocks so I'm way under stocked.

Question for you is, how many yearling bullocks could I run on 30actes. P.s. 30acres divided

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123449862#Comment_123449862

have a of heifer I bought as a calf in calf. Always liked the look of them in fairness. Would love to buy a proper pt heifer or even have the stones to ai a cow to a pt bull. Limouine cows be the best cross?

Cavanjack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123456791#Comment_123456791

If it’s divided into paddocks and you throw on a bit of fertilizer now and again I’d have 55- 60 yearlings on it for the main grass growing season.

Sami23

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123445829#Comment_123445829

Quick question for those of you who use the Copper Injection.

It says on the box to administer by deep intramuscular injection into the neck area but I don't like injecting into neck area so just wondering is there any issue with injecting into the rear end ?

Tia