GAZA ASSAULT LIVE THREAD

BobbyPropane

EDIT JUST USE THIS STREAM: http://rt.com/on-air/israel-military-operation-gaza/

Flares being dropped right now. Assault inbound.

Could already see and hear explosions in the distance, multiple ambulance sirens and drones are constantly buzzing as well

BobbyPropane

More streams : http://www.aa.com.tr/live1/gaza-live.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10975024/Israel-orders-ground-offensive-to-begin-against-Hamas-militants-in-Gaza.html


Explosions increasing

thebannerboy

Looks like Hamas started something they weren't able to finish.

Hotfail.com

Can anyone actually see these? Not working for me at all.

BobbyPropane

Hotfail.com wrote: »

Can anyone actually see these? Not working for me at all.

Working fine for http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/gaza/view-live-stream-gaza

Eerie as ****, its call to prayer time and flares are lighting up the sky while explosions can also be heard over the shouting

Hotfail.com

BobbyPropane wrote: »

Working fine for http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/gaza/view-live-stream-gaza

Eerie as ****, its call to prayer time and flares are lighting up the sky while explosions can also be heard over the shouting

Just got one working there, very scary stuff.

BobbyPropane

Hotfail.com wrote: »

Just got one working there, very scary stuff.

It has calmed down a bit now. Drones seem to have stopped and there are no more flares

Amirani

thebannerboy wrote: »

Looks like Hamas started something they weren't able to finish.

Like the lads in 1916 eh?

thebannerboy

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Like the lads in 1916 eh?

A confusing statement, considering it was the Jews who were initially ran out of it by the Muslims.

Land of Israel mentioned by King Cyrus of Persia when he liberated the Jews from the Babylonian's. 530BC


Islam founded in the 7th century. Even after Christianity.


Surely Israel are more like Ireland. Taking back a country which was once theirs. Or do you think Ireland should belong to England? Because generation of English were born here too.

Amirani

thebannerboy wrote: »

A confusing statement, considering it was the Jews who were initially ran out of it by the Muslims.

Land of Israel mentioned by King Cyrus of Persia when he liberated the Jews from the Babylonian's. 530BC


Islam founded in the 7th century. Even after Christianity.


Surely Israel are more like Ireland. Taking back a country which was once theirs. Or do you think Ireland should belong to England? Because generation of English were born here too.

Eh? I think you've sort of missed my point there by a small margin.

Iwasfrozen

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Like the lads in 1916 eh?

Didn't exactly work out for them either eh.

tigger123

thebannerboy wrote: »

Looks like Hamas started something they weren't able to finish.

thebannerboy wrote: »

A confusing statement, considering it was the Jews who were initially ran out of it by the Muslims.

Land of Israel mentioned by King Cyrus of Persia when he liberated the Jews from the Babylonian's. 530BC


Islam founded in the 7th century. Even after Christianity.


Surely Israel are more like Ireland. Taking back a country which was once theirs. Or do you think Ireland should belong to England? Because generation of English were born here too.

Are you enjoying what's going on in Gaza right now?

BobbyPropane

Jet just flew over and released bombs

thebannerboy

I love the way its Al Jazeerz that has the live streaming. I just did a search of they're website and could find no mention of the 13 heavily armed Hamas who tunnelled into Israel this morning.. but were caught by Israeli forces. I'm beginning to see why Egypt locked them up.

Amirani

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Didn't exactly work out for them either eh.

That being my point.

Iwasfrozen

thebannerboy wrote: »

A confusing statement, considering it was the Jews who were initially ran out of it by the Muslims.

Land of Israel mentioned by King Cyrus of Persia when he liberated the Jews from the Babylonian's. 530BC


Islam founded in the 7th century. Even after Christianity.


Surely Israel are more like Ireland. Taking back a country which was once theirs. Or do you think Ireland should belong to England? Because generation of English were born here too.

The Jews were expelled by the Romans after the third Roman Jewish war...

When the Muslims took over Palestine from the Romans the dominant religion was Orthodox Christianity.

bobrawn20

Folks in my town organising a picket for 'the injustice'.
Mention that Hamas are refusing to accept a ceasefire and you're the villain..pile of fûcking morons. This is worse than the Kony episode.

thebannerboy

tigger123 wrote: »

Are you enjoying what's going on in Gaza right now?

Yea I love watching religious extremists getting blown to bits actually. That's the great thing about a democracy where you can make your own choices. Obviously citizens of Gaza living under a religious extremist Shari law government wouldn't understand what that felt like.

JonEBGud

Ex. Newcastle footballer can't sort this one out.

thebannerboy

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Eh? I think you've sort of missed my point there by a small margin.

I assumed you were comparing Hamas to the volunteer's?

House of Blaze

Mad that I can sit here with a cuppa and a fag and watch bombs being dropped on people half a world away, live.

Mad times.

thebannerboy

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

The Jews were expelled by the Romans after the third Roman Jewish war...

When the Muslims took over Palestine from the Romans the dominant religion was Orthodox Christianity.

The Jews were expelled by the Romans. So they were there in the first place, to be expelled. True?

BobbyPropane

Really close explosion there was caught on the livestream

House of Blaze

It began in Africa lads, relax.

Iwasfrozen

thebannerboy wrote: »

The Jews were expelled by the Romans. So they were there in the first place, to be expelled. True?

Of course.

Amirani

thebannerboy wrote: »

Yea I love watching religious extremists getting blown to bits actually. That's the great thing about a democracy where you can make your own choices. Obviously citizens of Gaza living under a religious extremist Shari law government wouldn't understand what that felt like.

Never met a 6 year old religious extremist myself. Do you even enjoy seeing these ones get blown to bits?

meoklmrk91

BobbyPropane wrote: »

Really close explosion there was caught on the livestream

It scared the crap out me. I'm sitting here in my cozy bed, safe and sound, watching people die half way across the world. I cannot imagine being there, I cannot imagine what it's like, it's such a stark reminder of how evil people can be.

Amirani

thebannerboy wrote: »

The Jews were expelled by the Romans. So they were there in the first place, to be expelled. True?

I guess the Americans should start packing up their things and give the land back to the Native Indians then so?

thebannerboy

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Of course.

So they pre dated the Muslims who take the land by force? But yet its the Muslims who everybody thinks should own the land?

Have Al Jazeera on and they were reporting on the Mother and Baby homes here. Always interesting to see how different places report things.

Hotfail.com

thebannerboy wrote: »

Yea I love watching religious extremists getting blown to bits actually. That's the great thing about a democracy where you can make your own choices. Obviously citizens of Gaza living under a religious extremist Shari law government wouldn't understand what that felt like.

I've never seen a post on here before that made me so angry..

Diego Simeone

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Never met a 6 year old religious extremist myself. Do you even enjoy seeing these ones get blown to bits?

I dunno, some people can get their kids pretty fanatical about football from an early age.

user2011

Cute of Israel to do this now when the world is occupied with other things.

riffmongous

thebannerboy wrote: »

The Jews were expelled by the Romans. So they were there in the first place, to be expelled. True?

And what about the people the jews expelled? Jericho and all that, probably the ancestors of the palestinians. Even though its probably all a fairytale anyway

Iwasfrozen

thebannerboy wrote: »

So they pre dated the Muslims who take the land by force? But yet its the Muslims who everybody thinks should own the land?

Muslims are a religion not a race. Yes Arabs migrated to Palestine and became the dominant ethnic group but they converted a lot of the natives.

I suppose you think everyone in the US not descended from native Americans should just pack up and go home yeah?

hurricanefloss

They didn't refuse to accept a ceasefire, they are under siege, it didn't start yesterday.

Disputes like this don't go back that far, they go back as long as there has been borders. Israel seized land and continue to do so.

breakingthesilence.org

thebannerboy

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Never met a 6 year old religious extremist myself. Do you even enjoy seeing these ones get blown to bits?

No I don't. But I believe she died because of the actions of HAMAS not Israel. It was Hamas who broke the ceasefire remember?

thebannerboy

user2011 wrote: »

Cute of Israel to do this now when the world is occupied with other things.

Cute of Hamas to send 14 heavily armed members of Hamas under the border last night during a ceasefire that was in place for humanitarian reasons. Not to mention the mortars..

Lone Stone

Israel the country that makes me wonder what it would be like if Hitler won the war. Well maybe not that different since he did make a pact with some Zionists to send all the jews from germany there (Haavara Agreement). I just find Israel a disgusting country, i saw a video earlier of a cnn reporter and behind was a group of people cheering as they bomb civilians. Their ancestors must be turning in their graves, no better than the nazi's who persecuted them.

bobrawn20

hurricanefloss wrote: »

They didn't refuse to accept a ceasefire, they are under siege, it didn't start yesterday.

Disputes like this don't go back that far, they go back as long as there has been borders. Israel seized land and continue to do so.

breakingthesilence.org

Hamas has refused several offers of a ceasefire.

They don't want to lose face yet they cannot win. They don't care about the innocents dying.

sleepyheadh

thebannerboy wrote: »

No I don't. But I believe she died because of the actions of HAMAS not Israel. It was Hamas who broke the ceasefire remember?

the ceasefire was brokered by israel and the Egyptian government - which you will remember is essentially the egyptian army, who our allies of Israel.

so essential the ceasefire was set up to please israel while offering palestine nothing - why would they except the ceasefire?

bobrawn20

thebannerboy wrote: »

Cute of Hamas to send 14 heavily armed members of Hamas under the border last night during a ceasefire that was in place for humanitarian reasons. Not to mention the mortars..

Shhh Israel is evil and Hamas is completely innocent.

Amirani

thebannerboy wrote: »

No I don't. But I believe she died because of the actions of HAMAS not Israel. It was Hamas who broke the ceasefire remember?

And;

all those who died in Israel died because of the actions of Israel?
all those who died in 9/11 died because of the actions of the US Government?
all those who died in the Dublin-Monaghan bombings died because of the IRA?

etc. etc. etc.

Saying she died because of HAMAS is a cop out. She died because Israel decided to drop a bomb on her head. Same way way that all those who died in the other situations died because a terrorist/fundamentalist decided so.

bobrawn20

sleepyheadh wrote: »

the ceasefire was brokered by israel and the Egyptian government - which you will remember is essentially the egyptian army, who our allies of Israel.

so essential the ceasefire was set up to please israel while offering palestine nothing - why would they except the ceasefire?

Nothing except preventing all those innocent citizens dying..but yeah that doesn't matter

blatantrereg

This was expected. Gaza has a very large amount of gas, and is governed by an organisation whose power is based on conflict.

Israel have already stated that the gas is a primary reason for military action. Their given reason for not being interested in buying it is that the money will fund attacks against their state. Others have suggested it's because they fear the creation of a financially independent Palestinian state.

Most people seem to take sides with stuff like this. Hamas and the Israeli armed forces have both being escalating conflict for their own interests and have both attacked civilian targets as a matter of course. They're both as bad as each other in my view.

thebannerboy

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Muslims are a religion not a race. Yes Arabs migrated to Palestine and became the dominant ethnic group but they converted a lot of the natives.

I suppose you think everyone in the US not descended from native Americans should just pack up and go home yeah?

They didn't convert, the Muslims told them to convert or be slaughtered. The entire religion of Islam is based on violence.

user2011

thebannerboy wrote: »

Cute of Hamas to send 14 heavily armed members of Hamas under the border last night during a ceasefire that was in place for humanitarian reasons. Not to mention the mortars..

Just wondering why it has taking them so long to do this.. There were a few days that their towns and cities were under massive amounts of rocket fire?

So it takes 14 armed guys in a tunnel to finally push Israel over the line

House of Blaze

user2011 wrote: »

Just wondering why it has taking them so long to do this.. There were a few days that their towns and cities were under massive amounts of rocket fire?

So it takes 14 armed guys in a tunnel to finally push Israel over the line

A very small % of those actually get through their various hi tech defences though.

The iron dome missile defence system in particular.

thebannerboy

Diego Simeone wrote: »

I guess the Americans should start packing up their things and give the land back to the Native Indians then so?

Exactly my point. And I would support they're call for exactly the same reason as I do Israel.

JonEBGud

thebannerboy wrote: »

Cute of Hamas to send 14 heavily armed members of Hamas under the border last night during a ceasefire that was in place for humanitarian reasons. Not to mention the mortars..

Maybe cute.
But why target 4 boys for retaliation?

Egass13

thebannerboy wrote: »

No I don't. But I believe she died because of the actions of HAMAS not Israel. It was Hamas who broke the ceasefire remember?

You my friend , don't deserve words . You ignorant bastard. How anybody can speak even one word in defence or support of these murdering animals is beyond me . I hope you speak up out of ignorance and don't hold your views based upon the facts .