Roundup Fast Action 3 Litres Weedkiller - £6 [£5 @ checkout to ROI]

Davy

Buy here @ Amazon.co.uk

Woodies - €21.99
B&Q - £12.98

TheDriver

Surprised this can be bought, being chemical etc

mathie

They checkout at £5
Ordered two for 13.16 euro
Thanks OP

bmm

mathie wrote: »

They checkout at £5
Ordered two for 13.16 euro
Thanks OP

how did u manage this? I'm getting £14 delivery?

mathie

Add something to take it over the £25 required for free shipping
Then once the order is placed cancel that item

bmm

mathie wrote: »

Add something to take it over the £25 required for free shipping
Then once the order is placed cancel that item

My conscience wouldnt allow that. Amazon have been good to me over the years!

Let us support irish jobs and select Parcel Motel instead.

vicwatson

Nice 1 OP. Pesky weeds are gonna get it !

AlanS181824

Poor weeds.

Good price though!

icrusader

isn't this just 4gent orange repackaged for the average weed-hating consumer?

irishproduce

What?

jmch81

icrusader wrote: »

isn't this just 4gent orange repackaged for the average weed-hating consumer?

Along those lines.

Dont tell my g/f I ordered it!

irishproduce

What is 4gent orange?

marrm

irishproduce wrote: »

What is 4gent orange?

Used by the US in Vietnam to clear jungle. :mad:

Caused lots of deformities in children later. :mad::mad:

sharpish

icrusader wrote: »

isn't this just 4gent orange repackaged for the average weed-hating consumer?

Round up is glyphosate.

Glyphosate in any generic form will achieve the same results, ( best applied after a good rain as i recall )

The agent orange and the modern version which is still actually orange, it's something Tri- , Can't think of it at the moment.

Glyphosate is supposed to fairly harmless to humans ( heard of sales reps drinking it to prove their point) round up in just brand name ( made by one of the companies that developed agent orange, among other nasty things they've achieve by all accounts)

cgarrad

The commercial grade of this stuff is way better. Get it in B&Q. €20 for 500ml but it will make 25 liters.

ch750536

I'd steer well clear of glyphosate until the full story about bees is understood.

try

Davy wrote: »

Buy here @ Amazon.co.uk

Woodies - €21.99
B&Q - £12.98

This contains 7.2 g/litre of active ingredient €0.35 / gram (27.7 p/g)

In B&Q, Roundup Biactive (€40/litre) contains 360 g/litre of active ingredient €0.11 / gram)

Agri Merchant, Roundup Biactive about €6/litre (€0.016 / gram)

bumper234

irishproduce wrote: »

What is 4gent orange?

It's that colourful thread on 4chan.

Bazzy

i use the big tub you dilute yourself with a knapsack sprayer lot more affective

A LOT of farmers swear by it so its being used a lot all over the country

irishproduce

That biactive stuff from B&Q so is the better one to go for yeah?
Just get rubber gloves and a mask?

Pique

Nasty nasty stuff.

Much like the parent company.

pa990

cgarrad wrote: »

The commercial grade of this stuff is way better. Get it in B&Q. €20 for 500ml but it will make 25 liters.

Go to a farmers co-op and you can get 5L of concentrated roundup for about €35.

That will make 250L

Davy

pa990 wrote: »

Go to a farmers co-op and you can get 5L of concentrated roundup for about €35.

That will make 250L

Thats fair enough but for someone who wants to have it delivered to them, already mixed and a spray gun attached this is a bargain imo.

Choodefat

Tried Roundup on a gravel driveway, but it only burnt whatever type of weeds are on it - went over them with vinegar since and now they're on the way out.
Have read that Roundup is banned in some U.S. States, and some agency in New York stopped them from claiming some active agent dosen't cause damage...

L1011

Choodefat wrote: »

Tried Roundup on a gravel driveway, but it only burnt whatever type of weeds are on it - went over them with vinegar since and now they're on the way out.
Have read that Roundup is banned in some U.S. States, and some agency in New York stopped them from claiming some active agent dosen't cause damage...

That "burnt" is the weed actually dying - glyphosate doesn't burn, it actually kills the plant. It just takes some time. What you're attributing to the vinegar isn't the vinegar.

Its not banned anywhere in the US either; nor is there anything to actually link it to killing bees other than a few polls on an utter crank website. The suspicion that herbicides in general were causing colony collapse was figured out to be a specific herbicide family, not this one.

Choodefat

MYOB wrote: »

That "burnt" is the weed actually dying - glyphosate doesn't burn, it actually kills the plant. It just takes some time. What you're attributing to the vinegar isn't the vinegar.

Its not banned anywhere in the US either; nor is there anything to actually link it to killing bees other than a few polls on an utter crank website. The suspicion that herbicides in general were causing colony collapse was figured out eto be a specific herbicide family, not this one.

Well, weeds were there for 6 weeks or more - until I used the vinegar - and then they started to disappear...
Maybe 'banned' is too strong a term in some of the U.S. States, but some appear to have discontinued / replaced it, along with some other countries.

L1011

Choodefat wrote: »

Well, weeds were there for 6 weeks or more - until I used the vinegar - and then they started to disappear...
Maybe 'banned' is too strong a term in some of the U.S. States, but some appear to have discontinued / replaced it, along with some other countries.

You do need to physical remove the "burnt" (dead) weeds above the surface once they're dead, there's nothing which dissolves them.

Glyphosate is available for sale everywhere in the US. There's maybe one or two countries that have restrictions of any kind on it. Of all the herbicides that have been allowed for general sale its pretty much the most investigated and hence understood one and it is very much generally accepted to be non-toxic to animals (and hence humans)

If you intend to use a lot of it, buy a generic in bulk; but this is a decent price for a smaller amount.

kendragon

cgarrad wrote: »

The commercial grade of this stuff is way better. Get it in B&Q. €20 for 500ml but it will make 25 liters.

Does anyone know if this concentrated version is stronger that the normal stuff? I need something better than the regular roundup for killing off some ivy that is growing behind my shed. I can't get access to the roots from my garden and need something that will kill it from spraying it onto the leaves and stems.

L1011

kendragon wrote: »

Does anyone know if this concentrated version is stronger that the normal stuff?

Hugely. This is 360mg/l, the ready to use is 7.2mg/l - its 50 times concentrated.

You can get >400mg/l generics but considering you need to dilute it from 360 down anyway its really only worth buying for huge areas.

Justbecause

MYOB wrote: »

That "burnt" is the weed actually dying - glyphosate doesn't burn, it actually kills the plant. It just takes some time. What you're attributing to the vinegar isn't the vinegar.

Its not banned anywhere in the US either; nor is there anything to actually link it to killing bees other than a few polls on an utter crank website. The suspicion that herbicides in general were causing colony collapse was figured out to be a specific herbicide family, not this one.

Yeah, because you would have to be a crank to think Monsanto are destroying the planet......wakey wakey, take your head out if the sand because it's only a matter of time before they poison that also.

Sorry for deviating off topic but this is not a bargain, its destroying everything in the ground.

dodzy

Justbecause wrote: »

Yeah, because you would have to be a crank to think Monsanto are destroying the planet......wakey wakey, take your head out if the sand because it's only a matter of time before they poison that also.

Sorry for deviating off topic but this is not a bargain, its destroying everything in the ground.

It took 4 yrs to get that off your chest?

vicwatson

Great bargain op thanks

Pique

dodzy wrote: »

It took 4 yrs to get that off your chest?

It doesn't make the point any less accurate.

Justbecause

dodzy wrote: »

It took 4 yrs to get that off your chest?

What has that got to do with anything, it is my business when I choose to post and this is something we should all be worried about, I love a bargain, hence why I browse this forum everyday but even if that poison was 1 cent it shouldn't be bought! If I was to post a bargain alert about a site selling cheap crack cocaine would I be ok because it serves a purpose for some? Just because someone spends billions to spin a story about how safe this product is doesn't mean people should be afraid to speak up against them?

Now I know this is not the conspiracy section but how else are people who may be unaware of what this product actually is suppose to find out? I'm sorry I couldn't sit by and watch this thread pass by without saying something rant over.

Ps even if i only make one person look into Monsanto, this essay was entirely worthwhile.

dodzy

I need to get rid of weeds. So I bought.

OldRio

Good find but if you need a lot get the biactive.

I see the tree huggers are about. Holding hands and singing songs.

Justbecause

OldRio wrote: »

Good find but if you need a lot get the biactive.

I see the tree huggers are about. Holding hands and singing songs.

"Tree huggers" do me a favour, you kill weeds where? In your garden, for who? Your kids,your family? Your pets? They shouldn't be anywhere near this stuff! Would you let your kids play with near radioactive waste? No, because you are aware what it can do, you think because a global filth corporation who developed this s*** (by the way they also engineer crops which are resistant to this chemical) tells you it's perfectly safe, you swallow it. Your mocking people who have taken the time to try and help, this is exactly what we as a nation are good at, sitting on our arses and doing nothing, getting run all over by global corporations, letting them dictate to us what we should and shouldn't accept, we have no brains to think for ourselves anymore, At the end of the day, It's your funeral well actually your family's too but hey-ho, why bother doing anything about it, sure they aren't a priority or anything.

OldRio

Justbecause wrote: »

"Tree huggers" do me a favour, you kill weeds where? In your garden, for who? Your kids,your family? Your pets? They shouldn't be anywhere near this stuff! Would you let your kids play with near radioactive waste? No, because you are aware what it can do, you think because a global filth corporation who developed this s*** (by the way they also engineer crops which are resistant to this chemical) tells you it's perfectly safe, you swallow it. Your mocking people who have taken the time to try and help, this is exactly what we as a nation are good at, sitting on our arses and doing nothing, getting run all over by global corporations, letting them dictate to us what we should and shouldn't accept, we have no brains to think for ourselves anymore, At the end of the day, It's your funeral well actually your family's too but hey-ho, why bother doing anything about it, sure they aren't a priority or anything.

Global Corporations blah blah Radio Active waste blah blah Think of the children blah blah.
6th form political rhetoric.
In the real world I have a farm to run and rushes to control and grass to grow. Now about that hippy singsong.

Justbecause

OldRio wrote: »

Global Corporations blah blah Radio Active waste blah blah Think of the children blah blah.
6th form political rhetoric.
In the real world I have a farm to run and rushes to control and grass to grow. Now about that hippy singsong.

A farm to run? You to have plenty of time for childish derogatory remarks but no time to educate yourself, wonder how your farm is surviving?

Sagat06

Justbecause wrote: »

A farm to run? You to have plenty of time for childish derogatory remarks but no time to educate yourself, wonder how your farm is surviving?

Weedlessly I'd imagine

OldRio

Very well thank you.

L1011

Justbecause wrote: »

Yeah, because you would have to be a crank to think Monsanto are destroying the planet......wakey wakey, take your head out if the sand because it's only a matter of time before they poison that also.

Sorry for deviating off topic but this is not a bargain, its destroying everything in the ground.

Thanks for proving in four posts that you are, in fact, a crank.

You're the example here of not thinking for yourself - you're repeating the same rubbish that all the other cranks go on about, none of it fact based, all of it hysterical.

There is no evidence that glyphosate destroys "everything in the ground", and yet you're accepting people telling you that. There's no evidence that its dangerous to children or pets, yet you're accepting people telling you that. I suspect that if the right crank website told you the sky was brown but had been painted blue by a global corporation, you'd believe it too.

Justbecause

MYOB wrote: »

Thanks for proving in four posts that you are, in fact, a crank.

You're the example here of not thinking for yourself - you're repeating the same rubbish that all the other cranks go on about, none of it fact based, all of it hysterical.

There is no evidence that glyphosate destroys "everything in the ground", and yet you're accepting people telling you that. There's no evidence that its dangerous to children or pets, yet you're accepting people telling you that. I suspect that if the right crank website told you the sky was brown but had been painted blue by a global corporation, you'd believe it too.

And you my friend is a typical person that tars everyone with the same brush, just because I believe a corrupt chemical company that spends billions in fact to go so far as getting the goverment to pass laws for them, have something to hide? I must be a nut? In fact I must believe every conspiracy that ever existed!!! Open your eyes no tests prove conclusive because they are not allowing the results come to fruition and that will always be the case because of people like you who believe in fairy tales and that these companies are white than white, refusing to believe anything until the news tells them whats ok for them.

L1011

Justbecause wrote: »

And you my friend is a typical person that tars everyone with the same brush, just because I believe a corrupt chemical company that spends billions in fact to go so far as getting the goverment to pass laws for them, have something to hide? I must be a nut? In fact I must believe every conspiracy that ever existed!!! Open your eyes no tests prove conclusive because they are not allowing the results come to fruition and that will always be the case because of people like you who believe in fairy tales and that these companies are white than white, refusing to believe anything until the news tells them whats ok for them.

Plenty of herbicides and pesticides made by massive corporations have been banned - how do you think that one specific case would get ignored when others, in some cases far more financially viable for a firm, aren't?

You have been completely brainwashed. Everything you're accusing others of is, in fact, what you have fallen for completely.

zarquon

Is this bargain alerts or the conspiracy theory forum? I wonder if the masons have any discount codes for membership?

Justbecause

MYOB wrote: »

Plenty of herbicides and pesticides made by massive corporations have been banned - how do you think that one specific case would get ignored when others, in some cases far more financially viable for a firm, aren't?

You have been completely brainwashed. Everything you're accusing others of is, in fact, what you have fallen for completely.

Well I'm off for another four years, I'm not gonna try anymore with you, you can choose what you want but remember in 10 -15 years from now when we don't even have the right to know where our food comes from, you sat back and backed Monsanto, I hope you dont have to watch to many family members and friends suffer with cancer and other illnesses but the sad fact is that nobody will care until it's too late. Goodluck

Soarer

Don't leave the door hit you on the way out.

kc90

Justbecause wrote: »

"Tree huggers" do me a favour, you kill weeds where? In your garden, for who? Your kids,your family? Your pets? They shouldn't be anywhere near this stuff! Would you let your kids play with near radioactive waste? No, because you are aware what it can do, you think because a global filth corporation who developed this s*** (by the way they also engineer crops which are resistant to this chemical) tells you it's perfectly safe, you swallow it. Your mocking people who have taken the time to try and help, this is exactly what we as a nation are good at, sitting on our arses and doing nothing, getting run all over by global corporations, letting them dictate to us what we should and shouldn't accept, we have no brains to think for ourselves anymore, At the end of the day, It's your funeral well actually your family's too but hey-ho, why bother doing anything about it, sure they aren't a priority or anything.

But you haven't helped. Your spreading your opinion and nothing else. Solid evidence or GTFO.

Justbecause

kc90 wrote: »

But you haven't helped. Your spreading your opinion and nothing else. Solid evidence or GTFO.

Excuse me, I do not owe you anything, nothing at all, I'm sorry but the cheek of this lazy attitude "solid evidence or GTFO" is the problem, it's not my job to educate you, go out and look for yourself!!! I could post you a hundred links but you will choose not to believe them because " it's not an official source" well I'm sorry but an those official sources are corrupt as f***.

I sooner trust the words of first hand of people who have nothing to gain from speaking about their illnesses, there are real people out there that have talked about Monsanto but these fall on deaf ears..

All I asked is for people to look into Monsanto and question for themselves before they think they are grabbing a quick bargain in one of their products.

Pique

I'm sorry to see this thread go off the rails but I have to agree with justbecause here.

Anyone who thinks roundup (tm) is a safe product just because it has glyphosate either has had their head in the sand for years, or just doesn't care.

There are numerous independent studies that point to roundup being highly dangerous to people and wildlife.

Former Monsanto employees sitting on the US Supreme Court. Massive litigation against small businesses and farmers that they can't afford to fight.

This is the poster child company that really honestly deserves the 'big bad corporation' moniker.

If you continue to use their products after doing even the most rudimentary Google search, then so be it. Nothing anyone on boards says will change your mind.

bmm

What is considered safe today may be proven to be unsafe tomorrow. Many experts believed asbestos was safe until people started to die of lung cancer.