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aligator_am

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

You could more or less say the same about most transfers. All players have only had 1 Gw. Mata out isnt as bad a move as some people are making out. He is up against ramsey, sanchez, hazard, fabregas, sterling, eriksen, silva and nasri all these players have a decent shout for positions in our midfields. We can only play 7 attacking players most will have siggy now so that leaves 6 spots. My argument would be its in no way a must have that this current Utd team should be taking up 2 out of those 6 remaining attacking spots. Currently I have rooney and mata I may end up keeping the two of them but if one has to go at this moment in time its Mata as there are lots of alternatives just as good in his price range.

Not saying to keep Mata or Rooney for the season, but do think it's mad to drop either after a single game. In fairness, both could be atrocious in the next game and then turn lethal, hard to know, but as I indicated I think it's worth sticking with Mata for a couple of weeks at least, after that then I'm in the same boat as everyone else.

Iused2likebusts

aligator_am wrote: »

Not saying to keep Mata or Rooney for the season, but do think it's mad to drop either after a single game. In fairness, both could be atrocious in the next game and then turn lethal, hard to know, but as I indicated I think it's worth sticking with Mata for a couple of weeks at least, after that then I'm in the same boat as everyone else.

If thats the case its worth sticking with every player bar players that are injured or didnt get picked. Its only the Mata out transfer that people seem to have a problem with. People have taken out the likes of eriksen , coutinho, young etc to get siggy. Mata is more than capable of getting double digit score this weekend but so are a lot of the players that people are getting in for him.
I may do mata to hazard and looking at that move hazard has an easier fixture and plays for a better team.
Mata to siggy another popular one with the added bonus of an extra 3 million.

aligator_am

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

If thats the case its worth sticking with every player bar players that are injured or didnt get picked. Its only the Mata out transfer that people seem to have a problem with. People have taken out the likes of eriksen , coutinho, young etc to get siggy. Mata is more than capable of getting double digit score this weekend but so are a lot of the players that people are getting in for him.
I may do mata to hazard and looking at that move hazard has an easier fixture and plays for a better team.
Mata to siggy another popular one with the added bonus of an extra 3 million.

You may be right and I may be wrong, we'll see what happens.

My midfield from GW1 is Fab, Siggy, Ramsey, Hendo and Mata, will see how things go in the coming weeks, Silva would be nice to pick up but will see how things play out over the next couple of weeks.

Iused2likebusts

aligator_am wrote: »

You may be right and I may be wrong, we'll see what happens.

My midfield from GW1 is Fab, Siggy, Ramsey, Hendo and Mata, will see how things go in the coming weeks, Silva would be nice to pick up but will see how things play out over the next couple of weeks.

my midfield is ramsey fab sterling siggy mata. I need to decide if Im better off with hazard over mata for this gw. I could well do hazard back to mata for gw 3 due to fixtures.

aligator_am

Have Bruce (£4m) on the bench who's injured (75% chance of playing), you folks reckon it's worth using the 1st FT on him? And if so then for who of the same value?

aligator_am

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

my midfield is ramsey fab sterling siggy mata. I need to decide if Im better off with hazard over mata for this gw. I could well do hazard back to mata for gw 3 due to fixtures.

How much do you have in the bank? I watched a fair chunk of the Chelsea v Burnley game and Hazard didn't seem to impress, but as I said earlier about Mata, both could play out of their skin at the weekend.

I'm holding on to Mata for the next while, possibly more, unless he banjoes himself or plays like a stuck pig, assuming that RVP stays fit then Mata could get loads of assists, but then again either Hazard or Fabregas could get loads of assists via Costa, it's a kick in the tits trying to figure this out

Iused2likebusts

aligator_am wrote: »

How much do you have in the bank? I watched a fair chunk of the Chelsea v Burnley game and Hazard didn't seem to impress, but as I said earlier about Mata, both could play out of their skin at the weekend.

I'm holding on to Mata for the next while, possibly more, unless he banjoes himself or plays like a stuck pig, assuming that RVP stays fit then Mata could get loads of assists, but then again either Hazard or Fabregas could get loads of assists via Costa, it's a kick in the tits trying to figure this out

I have a million so just enough to do it as you say it's in the lap of the gods who scores higher. I prefer chelseas fixture is what's swaying me.

jive

aligator_am wrote: »

How much do you have in the bank? I watched a fair chunk of the Chelsea v Burnley game and Hazard didn't seem to impress, but as I said earlier about Mata, both could play out of their skin at the weekend.

I'm holding on to Mata for the next while, possibly more, unless he banjoes himself or plays like a stuck pig, assuming that RVP stays fit then Mata could get loads of assists, but then again either Hazard or Fabregas could get loads of assists via Costa, it's a kick in the tits trying to figure this out

Hazard was impressive. Didn't look like scoring too often but certainly looked in good form again. I'd expect him to get some points on the board this weekend for sure.

Benimar

aligator_am wrote: »

Have Bruce (£4m) on the bench who's injured (75% chance of playing), you folks reckon it's worth using the 1st FT on him? And if so then for who of the same value?

Unless 2 of your other 4 defenders have terrible fixtures, I'd stick.

Bruce only has a slight knock, so could still make Sundays game and using a FT to replace a 4.0 defender seems a waste.

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aligator_am wrote: »

You may be right and I may be wrong, we'll see what happens.

My midfield from GW1 is Fab, Siggy, Ramsey, Hendo and Mata, will see how things go in the coming weeks, Silva would be nice to pick up but will see how things play out over the next couple of weeks.

Just in relation to the bolded part. I'm presuming you mean we'll know this weekend. To be honest its rare a transfer can be rated based on 1 weekend unless it was a one week punt.

For example, last year I had the chance to go for Rooney and Cabaye for a four point hit or Hazard. I went with Hazard. Rooney and Cabaye both scored immediately that weekend but Hazard then started his purple patch the following GW.

Hazard was undoubtedly the right move after a number of weeks but I wasn't thinking that originally.

OneColdHand

So looks like Balotelli is almost a done deal for Liverpool. So what price will be be? And how do people see this impacting on Sturridge?

SpaceCowb0y

OneColdHand wrote: »

So looks like Balotelli is almost a done deal for Liverpool. So what price will be be? And how do people see this impacting on Sturridge?

I'd imagine he would come in around the 9.5 - 10.5 mil mark. most likely 10mil.

Can't see Rodgers starting Balotelli ahead of Sturridge if he is fit but he may play both of them in the same way as he did with Suarez.

Lemlin

OneColdHand wrote: »

So looks like Balotelli is almost a done deal for Liverpool. So what price will be be? And how do people see this impacting on Sturridge?

I reckon it'll effect Coutinho or Henderson rather than Sterling. Liverpool go 4-2-3-1 and I'd expect Balotelli to take Henderson or Coutinho's spot in the 3 behind Sturridge.

I'd actually expect Lallana to take the other spot and the Liverpool front four, when all are fit, to be something like:

Lallana - Balotelli - Sterling

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Sturridge

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Arnold Tanzarian

Lemlin wrote: »

I reckon it'll effect Coutinho or Henderson rather than Sterling. Liverpool go 4-2-3-1 and I'd expect Balotelli to take Henderson or Coutinho's spot in the 3 behind Sturridge.

I'd actually expect Lallana to take the other spot and the Liverpool front four, when all are fit, to be something like:

Lallana - Balotelli - Sterling

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Sturridge

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Balotelli is not an option for the no10 role, never played there in his career. He is a decent no9, but ya never know what youl get from him

zarquon

Liverpool went 4-4-2 when lambert came on at the weekend. That would suit balotelli better with sterling and lallana supporting from the wings. I can't see balotelli playing as a support striker, it's not a natural position for him.

The move could potentially make sterling less attractive as an option but it will take a while to see how they line out. For now it's a wait and see option as i suspect both Eriksen and Silva could prove to be better long term options than Sterling now.

FHFC

zarquon wrote: »

The move could potentially make sterling less attractive as an option but it will take a while to see how they line out. For now it's a wait and see option as i suspect both Eriksen and Silva could prove to be better long term options than Sterling now.

This is what I was thinking. Have held off on Sterling for now but had expected him to be essential pretty soon as their fixtures eased. Maybe not though.

Lemlin

zarquon wrote: »

Liverpool went 4-4-2 when lambert came on at the weekend. That would suit balotelli better with sterling and lallana supporting from the wings. I can't see balotelli playing as a support striker, it's not a natural position for him.

The move could potentially make sterling less attractive as an option but it will take a while to see how they line out. For now it's a wait and see option as i suspect both Eriksen and Silva could prove to be better long term options than Sterling now.

I can't see Rodgers going straight 4-4-2 though. I have a limited knowledge of Liverpool's tactics I'll admit but even last season was one of Suarez or Sturridge not generally forced out to the wing?

I had thought myself that Balotelli had sometimes played in a number ten role for City playing off a striker but perhaps I'm wrong.

Maybe he'll go 4-3-3 with Balotelli and Sterling on the wings off Sturridge.

kennyb3

Lemlin wrote: »

I can't see Rodgers going straight 4-4-2 though. I have a limited knowledge of Liverpool's tactics I'll admit but even last season was one of Suarez or Sturridge not generally forced out to the wing?

I had thought myself that Balotelli had sometimes played in a number ten role for City playing off a striker but perhaps I'm wrong.

Maybe he'll go 4-3-3 with Balotelli and Sterling on the wings off Sturridge.

I'd imagine Sturridge will play to the right, cutting in and sterling from the left cutting in on his right foot.

This might back that up to a small degree

zarquon

Lemlin wrote: »

I can't see Rodgers going straight 4-4-2 though. I have a limited knowledge of Liverpool's tactics I'll admit but even last season was one of Suarez or Sturridge not generally forced out to the wing?

I had thought myself that Balotelli had sometimes played in a number ten role for City playing off a striker but perhaps I'm wrong.

Maybe he'll go 4-3-3 with Balotelli and Sterling on the wings off Sturridge.

4-3-3 is certainly the other possibility. Pool still have Coutinho, Markovic and Lallana to accommodate so it will be interesting to see how Rogers manages this.

You'd have to imagine that Sturridge and Balotelli will be first choice

km79

what price will Di Maria be when he joins united ?

wonski

Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet - there were 3 games that ended 1-0 and in each of these games a defender from the loosing team got bonus points (Pieters 2, O'Brien 2 and Ferdinand 1).

Does anyone have a clue what was the reason for this?

Arnold Tanzarian

Lemlin wrote: »

I can't see Rodgers going straight 4-4-2 though. I have a limited knowledge of Liverpool's tactics I'll admit but even last season was one of Suarez or Sturridge not generally forced out to the wing?

I had thought myself that Balotelli had sometimes played in a number ten role for City playing off a striker but perhaps I'm wrong.

Maybe he'll go 4-3-3 with Balotelli and Sterling on the wings off Sturridge.

If Balotelli does finalise this move to liverpool, in the long run I could see them using the man city style 4-2-2-2 with sterling/lallana/markovic/coutihno playing off the front two of sturridge and balotelli.

In order to incorporate mario into the first 11 i firmly believe rodgers will have to change his system . He is a no9 and nothing else, he cant play on the wing or as a 10. He doesnt have the know how/football brain like a coutihno for example.

If anything for the long run this move has to put me off the supporting liverpool players like sterling etc.. Balotelli if purchased will prob be assured of a starting spot and if hes not starting he will sulk. Can see sturridge playing off him at times which does not suit sturridge or least its not his favoured spot.

A transfer 1 too many perhaps for liverpool. we shall see

qwabercd

Arnold Tanzarian wrote: »

If Balotelli does finalise this move to liverpool, in the long run I could see them using the man city style 4-2-2-2 with sterling/lallana/markovic/coutihno playing off the front two of sturridge and balotelli.

In order to incorporate mario into the first 11 i firmly believe rodgers will have to change his system . He is a no9 and nothing else, he cant play on the wing or as a 10. He doesnt have the know how/football brain like a coutihno for example.

If anything for the long run this move has to put me off the supporting liverpool players like sterling etc.. Balotelli if purchased will prob be assured of a starting spot and if hes not starting he will sulk. Can see sturridge playing off him at times which does not suit sturridge or least its not his favoured spot.

A transfer 1 too many perhaps for liverpool. we shall see

He did start out as a winger with inter but yeah at this stage it doesn't seem to suit his game any more. Strange signing by Liverpool I think their team would be stronger without him.

slingerz

cant see how balotelli can impact Sterling. It'll be much similar to when Suarez was there last year.

Sterling will still assist and score a bunch.

Lemlin

zarquon wrote: »

4-3-3 is certainly the other possibility. Pool still have Coutinho, Markovic and Lallana to accommodate so it will be interesting to see how Rogers manages this.

You'd have to imagine that Sturridge and Balotelli will be first choice

With CL and a couple of cup runs though, he'll have plenty of games to accomodate them all.

Ziegler1988

wonski wrote: »

Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet - there were 3 games that ended 1-0 and in each of these games a defender from the loosing team got bonus points (Pieters 2, O'Brien 2 and Ferdinand 1).

Does anyone have a clue what was the reason for this?

This is a pretty good article about defender BPS: http://development.totalfpl.com/Articles/312/defender-bonus-point-weekly-gw1

FrClintPower

Lemlin wrote: »

With CL and a couple of cup runs though, he'll have plenty of games to accomodate them all.

I think this is the main issue for Liverpool this season. Liverpool's front 6 was pretty consistent last year through necessity and it's arguable that Hendo missing the last few games cost Liverpool the league because the squad was too thin.

With CL thrown in this year, the squad had to be deepened, and an element of squad rotation introduced. I've Sterling in my team, but once Lallana and Markovic are fit those positions behind the striker(s) are going to get extremely competitive.

With Balotelli joining we could see the diamond formation used again, with 2 up top, making the person deployed "in the hole" even harder to predict.

Trying to figure out which system Liverpool will use from week to week will be hard too, Rodgers has shown himself to be very pragmatic rather than rigidly sticking to one formation.

Lemlin

Balotelli is certainly a signing I wasn't expecting. Perhaps Rodgers heard he was available on the cheap and decided to go with it.

I still think that Sturridge will always play through the centre for Liverpool so either its a switch to a two man frontline or Balotelli coming in from the wing.

I always thought they had wanted Remy because he could play on the wing. I still think Liverpool will go with 4-2-3-1, if Balotelli isn't in the number ten, perhaps he'll be in a wide position. Did he not play that wide position for City before?

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