Any bad characteristics you're proud of?

_Redzer_

As the title goes, do you have any characteristics that are universally deemed as negative that you're actually proud of?

I'm highly manipulative. But it's something I've grown to be aware of and I actually love it. So much so that I've actively started to hone it, which has made me able to read people and their emotions very well, and I can usually sway things to the direction I want and get what I want by consequence -if I chose to do so.

Now, I realise why it's a negative characteristic, but I only use it in seemingly harmless ways, like selling ideas to people, or making impersonal situations fall in my favour. (like I was able to win a place working in a medical company abroad next summer even though I shouldn't have been considered for it to begin with).

I've pretty much learned I can get anything I want as long as I can talk to them directly about it. But I have my morals, so it keeps me from expressing the negative attributes of this characteristic.

That's my negative quality that I'm proud of, I know I can use it to get ahead later on in life, as it's already done me well so far.

Any others?

FearDark

I'm a massive arsehole but all my friends acknowledge this as some sort of good quality for some reason. I sort of wear it as a badge of honour now. I'm the guy everyone comes to if they want an honest opinion... but I'm really just an arsehole.

gozunda

I'm a descendant of Vikings. Does that make me bad I wonder?

_Redzer_

FearDark wrote: »

I'm a massive arsehole but all my friends acknowledge this as some sort of good quality for some reason. I sort of wear it as a badge of honour now. I'm the guy everyone comes to if they want an honest opinion... but I'm really just an arsehole.

I'm that person too, in fairness. I'm bunt, but honest.

It is a good quality. I respect people being honest to me, even if it's bad news for me. It's easy to along with things, but it takes a bit of stance to tell the truth.

Tigger

gozunda wrote: »

I'm a descendant of Vikings. Does that make me bad I wonder?

me too are you always warm and naturally strong ?

Shanotheslayer

I'm an unbelievable good liar. But I never like to lie! As I hate it

murray.eoghan

i am quite convincing, i use it to get my mates to get me a drink down in the local

_Redzer_

murray.eoghan wrote: »

i am quite convincing, i use it to get my mates to get me a drink down in the local

That's the same as manipulation, exactly.

stefan idiot jones

I don't suffer fools. I give everybody the benefit of the doubt, but when you're done, you're done, gone, dead to me.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Manipulative also, I have the ability to use people for my own good. I can also get weaker individuals to do my bidding without question.

burstbuckle

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

I'm an unbelievable good liar. But I never like to lie! As I hate it

I don't believe you

Daveysil15

I'm a also a very good liar. I'm a good actor so can do it convincingly.

LizzieJones

I'm great at giving someone a guilt trip. My youngest son said I should have been a Jewish mother.

Arthur Beesley

I call a spade a spade.

stefan idiot jones

Arthur Beesley wrote: »

I call a spade a spade.

I say what I mean and I mean what I bloody well say. Geoff Boycott.

Arthur Beesley

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

I say what I mean and I mean what I bloody well say. Geoff Boycott.

Spot on, you plank.

Celly Smunt

Im horribly cynical and critical. I still stand by the fact that being this way and not going with the sheep in my line of work has gotten me much further up the ladder than others.

I'm an amazing liar too, the whole idea is to believe the lie is true yourself.

FortuneChip

I'm good as creating fall-guys to do/say the things that I don't want to be held accountable for.
In work, I might think a new procedure is unfair/sh*te, but will say I'm happy to go along with it to the manager.
Then, convince a colleague that although I'm ok with it, I can see how they're not so happy, and encourage them to point where they want to act on it.

Basically, I have the potential to be poisonous in a workplace.

bnt

I work in IT, where it helps to be a bit pedantic and focused on getting details right. It helps me get stuff done after other people have (metaphorically) gotten lost, unable to see the forest for the trees. I also read a lot - have done since I was a kid - and the result is that I am not only a Grammar Nazi, I'm a Spelling Stalinist and a Vocabulary Visigoth as well.

Whether those are "bad" characteristics is up to others, not me. "I yam what I yam and tha's all what I yam." I do have to edit myself when writing on Boards, and sometimes get it wrong.

whirlpool

I don't like to spend more than a couple of hours with any given friend in the space of a month. Like... if I meet a friend for a coffee for a couple of hours, I don't want to see that person again for another month or two. And those are my best friends. In my late teens / early twenties I built up quite a large social circle, through college and jobs, etc. Now, though, that has reduced to about 3 good friends in total, as a result of my anti-socialness.

A handful of people have over the years expressly told me they had a problem with this (which I found a bit mad.) Naturally, I am no longer friends with those people. My brain just can't handle much social interaction, even with best friends, I don't like it. I've tried changing, but then I realised... no, why should I? I am there for my good friends when they need me and vice versa. That's enough.

Also, 97% of the time, I don't answer my phone.

TheNumpty

I f**king love cursing

whirlpool

Celly Smunt wrote: »

Im horribly cynical and critical. I still stand by the fact that being this way and not going with the sheep in my line of work has gotten me much further up the ladder than others.

I'm an amazing liar too, the whole idea is to believe the lie is true yourself.

There are people locked up in mental institutions for having that characteristic :pac:

NZ_2014

You all sound evil.

pragmatic1

I'm basically satan when my temper is broken. It's shamed me and got me into trouble in the past. But there's a definite limit to the amount of BS I'll tolerate.

gugleguy

Sarcasm.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

I'm cold, I'm distant, I'm extremely direct. I'm a bitch.

But so what? Yeah it can be seen as a negative trait, but why? I'm glad nobody can hurt me, I'm glad I don't let most people in close enough to allow them **** all over me and then come back to wipe themselves on me. My personality helps me cut out people I don't need or want in my life. People who tell me to change, that I'm a bitch? Well it's them that need to change, I'm not a bitch for no reason, and if protecting myself makes me cold well then, sign me up for the freezer.

Shanotheslayer

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I'm cold, I'm distant, I'm extremely direct. I'm a bitch.

But so what? Yeah it can be seen as a negative trait, but why? I'm glad nobody can hurt me, I'm glad I don't let most people in close enough to allow them **** all over me and then come back to wipe themselves on me. My personality helps me cut out people I don't need or want in my life. People who tell me to change, that I'm a bitch? Well it's them that need to change, I'm not a bitch for no reason, and if protecting myself makes me cold well then, sign me up for the freezer.

Didn't know my girlfriend had a boards account :pac:

RobbingBandit

I play a millionaire at parties... At least I'd like to.

discus

I'm so unprofessional.

djflawless

I have a shin about people,
I know in the 1st 5 mins of meeting someone what sort of person they are and whether or not I can trust them.
And when I figure out, I'll make it my buisness to let that person know what I think of them

Adamantium

I'm highly empathetic with everything, which I've discovered also makes me highly manipulative (but not in an underhanded way), as people want to feel good and little more than that, god damn I sometimes a yearn for a conversation where I feel more than a shallow connection.

People don't care about you in unless you can make a connection that. Having a unbreakable friendship is so rare because few people want to hear what they already know deep down from each other. One mind in two bodies.

I'm way too perceptive of people and situations, but that's a gift and a curse, cursed with inspiration

If I meet someone I really like, I soon tell them that why they're class and different/unusual. It's a beautiful thing

_Whimsical_

Handy thread. A whois who of people to avoid and never hire based on their own admission of nefariousness.

You all know the real machiavellian cunning bas***ds are way too clever to reveal their hand on a forum.

Adamantium

Adamantium wrote: »

I'm highly empathetic with everything, which I've discovered also makes me highly manipulative (but not in an underhanded way), as people want to feel good and little more than that, god damn I sometimes a yearn for a conversation where I feel more than a shallow connection.

People don't care about you in unless you can make a connection that. Having a unbreakable friendship is so rare because few people want to hear what they already know deep down from each other. One mind in two bodies.

Ramble, ramble..

That's fascinating. You can feel empathetic but it's no more than a shallow connection? It sounds like a contradiction, and it's interesting you see it as manipulative.


I'm very good at feigning interest. It makes people feel special and more likely to be positive towards/about me, but I consider it more of a social skill than a bad characteristic.

Justin Credible Darts

I am outspoken, and wont bite my tongue for anyone, be it a cop, my boss or a beggar on the street.

It has led to a few jobs i was sacked or quit, even some altercations but i wont take ****e of anyone unless of course i messed up and deserve a little.
Wont have anyone speak down to me.Thing is getting older i am no longer as capable to stand up to people in case it cgot physical as my wife says but no sign of my willing to take it.

That said i had a boss similar and while most people hated him, i thought he was the best guy i ever worked for and worked that job for 19 years.
Even today my wife would say "you cannot say this or that" knowing damn well I will say what i want

RobbingBandit

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

Handy thread. A whois who of people to avoid and never hire based on their own admission of nefariousness.

You all know the real machiavellian cunning bas***ds are way too clever to reveal their hand on a forum.

Ah Machiavelli, a Florentine weirdo that wrote a book on how to rule but was too much of a pussy to seize power himself.

Justin Credible Darts

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

I am outspoken, and wont bite my tongue for anyone, be it a cop, my boss or a beggar on the street.

Aka intemperate rudeness?

Running off at the mouth and getting sacked or into fights over it is hardly something to be proud of.

kult

When I was in FL I was able to kill and have no mental problems , slept like a baby. It's very negative and stayed with me till today. However, I realize that you kill a rapist, child abuser and you will get 25years, if I did it in army I would get a medal and wage rise. Only difference.

ekimiam

Candie wrote: »

Aka intemperate rudeness?

Running off at the mouth and getting sacked or into fights over it is hardly something to be proud of.

I thought he was standing up for himself...

Justin Credible Darts

Candie wrote: »

Aka intemperate rudeness?

Running off at the mouth and getting sacked or into fights over it is hardly something to be proud of.

on the contrary, i am mannerly and decent and brought up well, but will not be belittled or treated rudely, and if I am I will put them in their place and give them a taste of their own medicine.

I got sacked once because i refused to be treated like dirt and told the boss that he better not speak to me in that tone again, as for fights, all were in self defense I never initiated an altercation with anyone in my life, until some person decided to treat me like dirt.

I can take a laugh and joke and used to a bit of moaning but being spoken to like dirt will never be acceptable

ekimiam

ekimiam wrote: »

I thought he was standing up for himself...

Some people have their switches more easily flipped than others. Getting into fights and being sacked kinda indicates he's easily inflamed.

Sometimes it's wiser to pick your battles.

Justin Credible Darts

Candie wrote: »

Some people have their switches more easily flipped than others. Getting into fights and being sacked kinda indicates he's easily inflamed.

Sometimes it's wiser to pick your battles.

That is the point I was addressing, I dont care who treats me like dirt I wont accept it.

If they dont like my response and feel they want to get physical I am hardlty going to stand there and let myself get beat up am I ?

Justin Credible Darts

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

That is the point I was addressing, I dont care who treats me like dirt I wont accept it.

If they dont like my response and feel they want to get physical I am hardlty going to stand there and let myself get beat up am I ?

I can see you're not argumentative at all.

Muise...

I'm selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.

I am also extremely scornful and snarky.

Shane-KornSpace

I'm a good liar and get very sarcastic.

Adamantium

Candie wrote: »

That's fascinating. You can feel empathetic but it's no more than a shallow connection? It sounds like a contradiction, and it's interesting you see it as manipulative.


I'm very good at feigning interest. It makes people feel special and more likely to be positive towards/about me, but I consider it more of a social skill than a bad characteristic.

It feel more like I'm passing through the world/life and I have to grab something of everything before it ends, so it's shallow in that sense, in that it's all going to go and change and eventually disappear, I'm out for me, but so is everybody else.

Being sick for so long when you're young, tends to pull the camera lens out and rust ensures, it never goes back.

I suppose I just want everybody to get what they want, whatever that it is. I also can't stand people who never want to find what that is. I just want things to be better than they are, and I want things to work – and I’m more comfortable with the idea of things getting better and with things working than I am with things staying the same.

Maybe these are not bad characteristics, but more fundamental realisations/principles to having a better life. It's a pretty heavy burden when you're constantly aware of your mortality.

Justin Credible Darts

Candie wrote: »

I can see you're not argumentative at all.

I think you are mistaking argumentative with discussing the topic at hand.

As the thread title says a bad characteristic , but i am proud of it, and those who like me actually welcome the fact I stand up for myself

Adamantium

Adamantium wrote: »

It feel more like I'm passing through the world/life and I have to grab something of everything before it ends, so it's shallow in that sense, in that it's all going to go and change and eventually disappear, I'm out for me, but so is everybody else.

Being sick for so long when you're young, tends to pull the camera lens out and rust ensures, it never goes back.

I suppose I just want everybody to get what they want, whatever that it is. I also can't stand people who never want to find what that is.

Maybe these are not bad characteristics, but more fundamental realisations to having a better life. It's a pretty heavy burden when you're constantly aware of your mortality

I think that's a unique perspective most people don't have. I'm sorry you were ill and I hope you're ok now .

I don't think they're bad characteristics, I think they're social skills as I said. The ability to get along with others so that everybody gains is hardly a bad thing.

Just don't be so conscious of death that you don't stop and enjoy lifes trivialities once in a while.

Justin Credible Darts

Shane-KornSpace wrote: »

I'm a good liar and get very sarcastic.

I believe you.

Thats how good you are

whirlpool

Candie wrote: »

I can see you're not argumentative at all.

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

I think you are mistaking argumentative with discussing the topic at hand.

As the thread title says a bad characteristic , but i am proud of it, and those who like me actually welcome the fact I stand up for myself

Candie I can see where you're coming from with your previous responses to his posts.

However I find it really unfair when someone responds to something and is labelled "argumentative" to make them look like "the bad guy." So, what, you should just get to say whatever you want and nobody else is allowed respond? It's called a conversation, it's not meant to be one-sided. It's not "argumentative" just because he doesn't agree with you. That's a really sly, passive-aggressive thing to say.

Anyway having read through this thread I think we would all benefit from a little meditation

PizzamanIRL

I'm good at pretending that I don't care when my 3 year old niece beats me at Connect-4 when I'm actually dying inside.

whirlpool

whirlpool wrote: »

Candie I can see where you're coming from with your previous responses to his posts.

However I find it really unfair when someone responds to something and is labelled "argumentative" to make them look like "the bad guy." So, what, you should just get to say whatever you want and nobody else is allowed respond? It's called a conversation, it's not meant to be one-sided. It's not "argumentative" just because he doesn't agree with you. That's a really sly, passive-aggressive thing to say.

Anyway having read through this thread I think we would all benefit from a little meditation

Ah now here. The argumentative wasn't a label, it was a joke. Thats why I put a smiley beside it to make that obvious.

You're inferring something I wasn't implying and have done the very thing you accuse me of by characterising me as sly and passive-aggressive.