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Family distraught as Irish lad runs off to join rebels in Syria

  • 03-07-2014 9:25am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭


    What do ye make of this, AH?

    Personally, I think he's a bit of a thick for doing this, especially without telling his family what he was up to. Hopefully he makes it out the other end in one piece!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    Joining a group that truly love their beheadings, I'd say screw him tbh. He'll most likely end up featured on LiveLeak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Goddammit Eamon Bradley, stop messing and come home for dinner!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    . Hopefully he makes it out the other end in one piece!

    I'm ok with him coming back in a couple of pieces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    Until we know what group he joined, who can say.

    They aren't all cannibal barbarians as some would portray.

    Having said that, if he joins some ISIS affiliate who are partial to a bit of barbarism, then his citizenship/residency should be considered null & void on security grounds & passport cancelled.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭The Dagda


    It's better than running off to join the circus...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I love the random anonymous quotes they threw in there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    An idiot is all I can say.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Sure isn't he from the north? We can just call him british and pretend this never happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Unfortunately, a small % of people seem to have always been fascinated by and want to get involved with other countries' internal conflicts.

    We saw similar in the 1920s really when a bunch of Irish people jumped into both sides of the Spanish Civil War for example.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    Could he not just have joined the FCA?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭howamidifferent


    Gob****e! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Recently a Green Party leader in Sweden compared these lads travelling to Syria with Swedish volunteers joining Finnish troops fighting Russians during WW2.

    Right... totally the same thing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Could he not just have joined the FCA?

    I dont think sharing a wooden gun with a hundred other lads would've cut it for him.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,769 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Given the butchery in violation of the laws of war groups within Syria have done and as these can be prosecuted by any country, then it should be an interesting home coming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    I get the impression the guy has played Call of Duty a bit too many times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    Why did they picture him on a horse? What the fcuk good can a horse do against morter rounds and chemical weapons?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Well, if he comes back and he's been involved in war crimes, I think fair enough he should stand trail.

    I just hope he's not going to expect to be rescued now (at enormous cost) by an Irish diplomatic mission. Given that 1) he lives in the UK and 2) he ignored all travel advice and has gone to partake in a war.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    Why did they picture him on a horse? What the fcuk good can a horse do against morter rounds and chemical weapons?

    Maybe it's a secret unicorn and it can just merely fly into different dimensions :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    bear1 wrote: »
    Maybe it's a secret unicorn and it can just merely fly into different dimensions :)
    Ah yes, the majestic jihadicorn I believe they're called


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    Why did they picture him on a horse? What the fcuk good can a horse do against morter rounds and chemical weapons?

    He was inspired by the Canadians in WW1, charging against tanks on horseback.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    The one thing he can be 100% sure of though is that he's now placed himself on the international security services radar for the rest of his life regardless of what his motivations are.

    He could also be facing serious prosecution when he returns to Northern Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    Well, if he comes back and he's been involved in war crimes, I think fair enough he should stand trail.

    I just hope he's not going to expect to be rescued now (at enormous cost) by an Irish diplomatic mission. Given that 1) he lives in the UK and 2) he ignored all travel advice and has gone to partake in a war.

    I'd say the most our Government would do is offer "consular assistance".
    I'd doubt the British government would give a toss if an Irish citizen went to fight in a war that he shouldn't be a part of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    biko wrote: »
    Recently a Green Party leader in Sweden compared these lads travelling to Syria with Swedish volunteers joining Finnish troops fighting Russians during WW2.

    Right... totally the same thing.

    Fighting Assad isn't a bad cause to sign up for. He's a brutal dictator.

    the problem is that the opposition like ISIS aren't any better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    bear1 wrote: »
    I'd say the most our Government would do is offer "consular assistance".
    I'd doubt the British government would give a toss if an Irish citizen went to fight in a war that he shouldn't be a part of.

    I would certainly hope not. It would be a gross waste of money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    Grayson wrote: »
    Fighting Assad isn't a bad cause to sign up for. He's a brutal dictator.

    the problem is that the opposition like ISIS aren't any better.

    ISIS are like the Taliban on steroids, it seems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Grayson wrote: »
    Fighting Assad isn't a bad cause to sign up for. He's a brutal dictator.

    the problem is that the opposition like ISIS aren't any better.

    It isn't a war any of us should be involved in.
    If they want to blow themselves up then have at it whether it be a good cause or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    He's not a rebel, he's a very naughty boy!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Once he doesn't involve himself in firefights with any of our troops serving in Syria I couldn't give a toss what he does, or what happens to him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    If he does involve himself in any firefights with Irish troops he should be charged with treason or whatever offence is most appropriate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    How will he manage to communicate with them, after all...Irish people have a hard enough job understanding a thick Derry accent so I can only imagine how the Syrians will manage.

    "How's about ye mucker, am here to help ye with your sityee-ayshin. Whatchee want me to do mucker? "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    biko wrote: »
    Goddammit Eamon Bradley, stop messing and come home for dinner!

    "Get up for Mass! Get up... to FUCK!!" :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    I'd hope the Irish troops would respond in kind no matter where the fecker is from.
    If I was the father and the kid got back safe and sound there'd some fire fighting going on in the house that evening!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,908 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Didn't a couple of Irish lads go over to fight in Libya? Think one of them was a commander of sorts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    I'd say his Facebook updates will be class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    So it goes. One minute you're cosy at home in Wee Dorry, reading Bob Fisk and dreaming, the next your galloping around the desert barefoot on a horse with a towel on your head and a belt of 7.62mm Soviet around your neck, like "Into The West" gone badly wrong.

    If the stupid boy survives he might grow out of it. I could crack a rather crude gag about a lack of opportunity for youngfellas up that direction what with all this "Peace" business recently, but that would be in gross poor taste.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    Unfortunately, a small % of people seem to have always been fascinated by and want to get involved with other countries' internal conflicts.

    We saw similar in the 1920s really when a bunch of Irish people jumped into both sides of the Spanish Civil War for example.

    1930s.

    And Irish people at that time would have had stronger connections to both sides of the conflict in Spain than a Derryman does to Syria today. Kind of reminds me of that Irish "mercenary" in Bolivia a few years back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Great way to kickstart Ramadan in fairness, heading off to Syria to slaughter kuffars and Shia apostates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Didn't a couple of Irish lads go over to fight in Libya? Think one of them was a commander of sorts.

    That's right, his full title was Commander Craic. When they needed a serious session or a piss up organised, Commander Craic was yer man apparently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,515 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    I know unemployment is bad in Ireland but that lad has taken finding work to the extreme...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,908 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    That's right, his full title was Commander Craic. When they needed a serious session or a piss up organised, Commander Craic was yer man apparently.

    Pity he never met up with General Butt Naked. There would have been some legendary tales.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    Why did they picture him on a horse? What the fcuk good can a horse do against morter rounds and chemical weapons?

    Depends on the horse
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2n5PhnSsV-4/Tm2CIjtXydI/AAAAAAAAAT8/_gFeHCZqBso/s1600/bravestarr3.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    She had sent him to Alan's Snackbar for a roll and he never came back


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Muise... wrote: »
    1930s.

    And Irish people at that time would have had stronger connections to both sides of the conflict in Spain than a Derryman does to Syria today. Kind of reminds me of that Irish "mercenary" in Bolivia a few years back.

    I think when it comes down to it though, 'There's always one' is the only phrase that sums it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    If he does involve himself in any firefights with Irish troops he should be charged with treason or whatever offence is most appropriate.

    It's not treason. Not under the definition is Bunreacht na hEireann anyway
    Article 39

    Treason shall consist only in levying war against the State, or assisting any State or person or inciting or conspiring with any person to levy war against the State, or attempting by force of arms or other violent means to overthrow the organs of government established by the Constitution, or taking part or being concerned in or inciting or conspiring with any person to make or to take part or be concerned in any such attempt.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    TheZohan wrote: »
    I'd say his Facebook updates will be class.

    Pity they're not public, very interesting to see what's really going on inside Syria.

    https://www.facebook.com/eamon.bradley.1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    It's not treason. Not under the definition is Bunreacht na hEireann anyway

    Not treason to Ireland anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    In the event that he were to attack Irish troops, could that not be seen as 'waging war against the state' ?

    I know it would be pushing the definition a bit, but I don't think that anyone who were to ever engage in live fire against our peace keepers should be entitled walking off without serious consequences.

    It's probably unlikely that that situation would occur, but even so...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    bear1 wrote: »
    Not treason to Ireland anyway.

    And he's Irish therefore it's not treason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    The guy is from the UK so it wouldn't be treason to our state, the ROI.
    It's off topic anyway.
    Let's just say that if the gob****e is stupid enough to fire on Irish/British whatever other troops that they respond in the same manner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    In the even that he were to attack Irish troops, could that not be seen as 'waging war against the state' ?

    I don't think so. The Irish troops are part of a UN force.


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