Formula 1 2014: Round 9 - British Grand Prix

Zcott

I'm becoming more and more impressed with Rosberg's driving this year. Lewis thought he had it in the bag but clearly didn't. The BBC interview was almost embarrassing to watch...

Frankie Lee

Perez was unlucky not to get around in time, given his previous time and the drying final sector he would have been right in contention.

smellslikeshoes

You rarely get a grid with as much potential action.

blackdog2

It did seem like Lewis was trying to delay Nico, or at least play mind games with him

The Sky Sports commentary were trying to put the blame on the team (loved the interview with Toto Wolf) but it really seems like it wa Lewis' call.

It's not the disaster its being made out to be, my guess is for Lewis to be p3 by the end of lap 1 and 2nd within 2 laps or so. He'll shadow Nico till the stops, and probably win by going longer in each stint. If he wins, it'll be heralded as a major psychological swing point in the championship.

*All of the above could be complete bollix

Frankie Lee

The Mercedes is probably the quickest starting car on the grid and at least a second a lap qiicker than the other teams but it won't be easy for Hamilton. A short run to turn 1, the McLarens shouldn't put up too much of a fight but Hulkenberg is notoriously difficult to overtake while Vettel's Red Bull generally has good traction and could delay him a good while. A fired up Perez and Ricciardo are dangers from behind him too. Rosberg will have a chance to build a lead anyway.

Gillespy

Remember the cheer last year when Vettel retired? How will the best fans in the world react if Rosberg retires tomorrow?

Of course he got away with overtaking under a red.

Infoanon

Gillespy wrote: »

Remember the cheer last year when Vettel retired? How will the best fans in the world react if Rosberg retires tomorrow?

Of course he got away with overtaking under a red.

It would have been extremely harsh to have penalised Rosberg in that instance.

Peanut Butter Jelly

Infoanon wrote: »

It would have been extremely harsh to have penalised Rosberg in that instance.

No it wouldn't. It would have been perfectly reasonable for any driver to be penalised for overtaking under a red flag. Jenson got done for it in Austin.

_rebelkid

Peanut Butter Jelly wrote: »

No it wouldn't. It would have been perfectly reasonable for any driver to be penalised for overtaking under a red flag. Jenson got done for it in Austin.

Jenson overtook Kvyat in Austin, Rosberg passed Kvyat yesterday. This is the official line on it:

Over a minute after the red flag was displayed, car 6 overtook car 26 under red flags
at Turn 15. Having reviewed data from several cars in the same area of the track,
several angles of video and having spoken to the driver concerned, the Stewards
determined that: the driver of car 6 had driven the lap fully within the regulations and
was traveling at a safe and reasonable speed throughout; that at the moment of the
overtake, car 26 pulled fully off line and slowed to as low as 38kph in what appeared to
be a very unusual manner, in an area of the track that was visibly completely clear; and
that the driver of car 6 took reasonable avoiding action of a car, that the Stewards
accept he reasonably believed to be in difficulty, consistent with Art. 40.8(h) of the
Sporting Regulations relating to Safety Car periods, whereby a pass is allowed in what
has to be considered an acceptable circumstance; that the driver of car 6 slowed down
to as low as 39kph immediately having passed car 26, reasonably reacting to the
situation and continued to proceed with extreme caution.

Peanut Butter Jelly

Ok, but how fast of an overtake is too fast? When do we say "Actually no, you went too far there."

_rebelkid

Peanut Butter Jelly wrote: »

Ok, but how fast of an overtake is too fast? When do we say "Actually no, you went too far there."

It's less the overtake and more of Rosberg's actions after it. He passed Kvyat because he thought Kvyat had an issue, but once he went through Stowe and saw Massa's car, he slowed right down to 39kph, which proved to the stewards that he did heed the red flag and proceeded with extreme caution.

losthorizon

Is it raining there at the moment? Just looking at rain radar and where I think Silverstone is, it seems to be under rain clouds?

Mint Sauce

Stunt double, or Lewis? Cant see Mercedes allowing that without huge insurance.

GTE

Peanut Butter Jelly wrote: »

Ok, but how fast of an overtake is too fast? When do we say "Actually no, you went too far there."

Probably in a situation that is so far removed to what happened in this instance that it's not that appropriate to compare them.

KillerShamrock

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Stunt double, or Lewis? Cant see Mercedes allowing that without huge insurance.

I think stunt double there was a bit of dodgy looking green screen moments plus he would need to have done that loads of times before to be able to go solo

Didn't catch quali yesterday and just saw the on-board stuff there now, bit naughty from Hamilton.

Itssoeasy

losthorizon wrote: »

Is it raining there at the moment? Just looking at rain radar and where I think Silverstone is, it seems to be under rain clouds?

Doesn't look like it looking at the sky coverage. Looks dry.

Itssoeasy

Some problem with brakes on
Lewis' car.

Itssoeasy

Or not according to paddy lowe.

Zico

I love Hamilton. He's like Nigel Mansell, his own worst enemy liable to cause a breakdown or make a tactical mistake at a crucial moment leading to spectacular failure.

He moans to the press much more than Mansell used to, which adds to the comedy.

Peanut Butter Jelly

I'd like to see Jenson do well today. Will be interesting if the Mercs split the strategy.

Glad to see McLaren go well but it pretty much guarantees a Rosberg win.

Peanut Butter Jelly

Holy crap. How did more people not get caught up in that

Itssoeasy

Lucky that wasn't worse and kimi looks a bit shaken up.

andyman

Red Flag, this should be great fun!

As much as I love Kimi it seems fairly obvious that Kimi's head just isn't in it this season.



Thought a red flag on the first lap meant a reformed original grid. Typical lucky Hamilton. :P

andyman

Hang on, Brundle is saying drivers have to go back to their original positions? Since when was this a rule?

Ah, understand now

dor83

Massa did very well not to have a big crash there, could have been much worse for both if he hadn't been so quick to react.

christy c

Massa seemed to be stopped on the grid and got going then

weekaizer

First red flag on first Lap since Monaco 2000! Wow! I remember it well!