Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 *mod warning linked in OP 26/07*

witnessmenow

rob316 wrote: »

Keep him away from shooting areas IMO he was sensational in his first few months when he just concentrated on cutting defences open. He can be world class at that, he just needs to stick to his strengths.

His goal against City was ok by me

I actually cant understand how his shooting is so bad

wcarey1975

rob316 wrote: »

Keep him away from shooting areas IMO he was sensational in his first few months when he just concentrated on cutting defences open. He can be world class at that, he just needs to stick to his strengths.

TBH its not gonna get any better if he doesnt train and then use it. I'm all for him trying but not in the "big" games unless he's in the box already.

W

rob316

wcarey1975 wrote: »

TBH its not gonna get any better if he doesnt train and then use it. I'm all for him trying but not in the "big" games unless he's in the box already.

W

Of course but I would imagine his shots per game ratio was the highest in the league last season, incredibly wasteful. I don't want to see him lying deep he will be wasted there when he can make runs like his solo against Hull last season.
I just want Rodgers to tell him you are the playmaker of this team, that is all I want from you.

danoriordan1402

wow, no posts in here for well over an hour - I thought the thread was archived

Looks like we may have agreed a deal for Manquillo according to Marca....

Liverpool have sealed a deal for Atletico Madrid right-back Javier Manquillo, according to Marca.

They claim the 20-year-old will play on loan for the Reds for the next two seasons, with a purchase option in the region of €6m.

However, the terms of the deal will include an option which allows the Madrid club to recall Manquillo if he makes the kind of progress at Anfield they expect.

So if he turns out to be great for us, we can buy him for 6mil but then AM can buy him straight back for another agreed price 6mil + x???
Wierd...

D'Agger

I see Bertrand is being mentioned again today on F365, annoying when you see Southampton reportedly close to signing Rojo from Sporting

jasonb

danoriordan1402 wrote: »

wow, no posts in here for well over an hour - I thought the thread was archived

Looks like we may have agreed a deal for Manquillo according to Marca....




So if he turns out to be great for us, we can buy him for 6mil but then AM can buy him straight back for another agreed price 6mil + x???
Wierd...

I'd read that to mean either we buy him, or they recall him before the 2 year loan is over, not that we could buy him and then they could buy him back...

J.

Knex*

danoriordan1402 wrote: »

wow, no posts in here for well over an hour - I thought the thread was archived

Most of the top contributors are banned, or in the case of Mike, banned and closed account.

Hence the lull in posts.

Knex*

D'Agger wrote: »

I see Bertrand is being mentioned again today on F365, annoying when you see Southampton reportedly close to signing Rojo from Sporting

I'd prefer Bertrand, nearly. Rojo terrifies me.

jasonb

What about the top, top contributors?

J.

Fescue

Knex. wrote: »

Most of the top contributors are banned, or in the case of Mike, banned and closed account.

Hence the lull in posts.

I guess its up to those who remain to step up.

Eh, panda...saps, Reus, Vidal, best bit of business all summer, taking into account net spend, Kate Cohen?!?

Hangballlouie

jasonb wrote: »

What about the top, top contributors?

J.

The top, top chatting happens on twitter. You should organise an invasion :cool:

billymitchell

Sappy404 wrote: »

Anyone got a highlights link? 101GG doesn't have it yet.

By the sounds of things, there were no highlights from last nights game

Knex*

Fescue wrote: »

I guess its up to those who remain to step up.

Eh, panda...saps, Reus, Vidal, best bit of business all summer, taking into account net spend, Kate Cohen?!?

Loan Watch

Hangballlouie

billymitchell wrote: »

By the sounds of things, there were no highlights from last nights game

The highlight from the game was 100% Emre Can. The guy is a dreamboat. Swoon!!

rob316

Can is a tank and looks a very good footballer. Got a good feeling about him. Big powerful presence with an excellent eye for a pass. Coul really challenge Gerrard for that deep lying role.

Agent Coulson

"It's probably not as bad as first thought," the boss told his post-match press conference in Boston. "He's had problems in the past with his shoulder, but he's only bruised it.

"He'll miss a few days of training. He won't train now for the remainder of the trip here, but it's only going to be a matter of days before he's back training and playing again."

liverpoolfc.com

I'd be wrapping him in bubblewrap and posting him straight to Sunderland.

jasonb

Knex. wrote: »

Loan Watch

Judging by some of the tangents this thread has seen, this next one should seem fairly normal...

'Loan Watch' and 'Pandas' somehow got me thinking of...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLdv6gler_M

J.

Pique

danoriordan1402 wrote: »

wow, no posts in here for well over an hour - I thought the thread was archived

Looks like we may have agreed a deal for Manquillo according to Marca....




So if he turns out to be great for us, we can buy him for 6mil but then AM can buy him straight back for another agreed price 6mil + x???
Wierd...

Sounds more like if he turns out good, we could buy him for 6m, but if he's better than that, Madrid can cancel the loan.

Seems like a win-win for RM.

klose

Suarez first game after his ban finished will be against real, couldn't write it

ThunbergsAreGo

Pique wrote: »

Sounds more like if he turns out good, we could buy him for 6m, but if he's better than that, Madrid can cancel the loan.

Seems like a win-win for RM.

Dont think it really affect Real Madrid

murpho999

klose wrote: »

Suarez first game after his ban finished will be against real, couldn't write it

He'll hardly make his debut then will he if he hasn't been training.

Utopia Parkway

Coutinho was the best player on the pitch last night although his shooting still looks pants. Can't figure out how a player who is so good technically constantly drags his shots wide and often well wide.

Can was good after he came on. He's a seriously big unit. Very strong and powerful. Quick too when he gets into his stride.

The rest were meh. Typical pre-season fare. Lots of misplaced passes and poor control. Rodgers has said that they've done very little ball work so far though. It's been all fitness based.

Boom_Bap

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Coutinho was the best player on the pitch last night although his shooting still looks pants. Can't figure out how a player who is so good technically constantly drags his shots wide and often well wide.

He strikes a ball so cleanly from a dead ball. but when he is in motion, when he uses power, you can see that the ball glues to his foot on impact for a fraction of a second, this is what drags it. When he stokes it about he doesn't appear to drag it.

I'm guess it's something to do with striking a ball with power, and just not hitting it right. If he sorts that out, which I imagine would be difficult, then he would be lethal.

beakerjoe

klose wrote: »

Suarez first game after his ban finished will be against real, couldn't write it

You just did

D'Agger

beakerjoe wrote: »

You just did

OwaynOTT

jasonb wrote: »

Judging by some of the tangents this thread has seen, this next one should seem fairly normal...

'Loan Watch' and 'Pandas' somehow got me thinking of...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLdv6gler_M

J.

Honey Badger Watch.

The Mig

danoriordan1402 wrote: »

wow, no posts in here for well over an hour - I thought the thread was archived

Looks like we may have agreed a deal for Manquillo according to Marca....




So if he turns out to be great for us, we can buy him for 6mil but then AM can buy him straight back for another agreed price 6mil + x???
Wierd...

It's the way meltdowns will happen this season :pac:

Tusky

This is worrying. Stars are stars for a reason - because they are in the very top bracket of player. I don't think we have a single player in that bracket at the moment. We are buying lots of good players but no great players.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/i-will-not-waste-luis-suarez-cash-on-stars-vows-brendan-rodgers-30455836.html

Brendan Rodgers says he will continue to snub stellar names unless they fit the "right profile" for Liverpool as he continues the £100m reshaping of his side in the wake of Luis Suarez's exit.

While some of the world's biggest clubs pursue their obsession with marquee purchases, Rodgers says he would rather save funds than waste his money on vanity products.

Liverpool are flush with the largest transfer kitty in their history and are likely to have a minimum of eight new recruits by August, the next of which Rodgers hopes will be the Southampton centre-half Dejan Lovren and Chelsea left-back Ryan Bertrand.

The London club are resisting an £8m bid for Bertrand, which Liverpool believe demonstrates how much more of a title threat they are now perceived as being.

Loic Remy is currently with the Liverpool squad in Boston to become their fifth summer signing, following Adam Lallana, Rickie Lambert, Lazar Markovic and Emre Can.

Liverpool have been conspicuous by their absence in auctions for some of the stars of the World Cup, but Rodgers says his recruits were long-term targets, subject to diligent scouting and referencing rather than being assessed for their "names".

"They are all big signings for us because they will all make a big contribution," Rodgers said. "Maybe for the media there is guessing how we spend the money but you only spend the money if the players are there. What we can't do is spend for the sake of it. The players we've brought in are players we wanted anyway.

"Our signings are strategic. They are not just names. They all fit into the purpose of the team, but of course we want them to make a contribution. If that means we do not spend all the money or the net spend is the same, then so be it.

"There is a responsibility (to spend well). I have always said at every club I've been at, the club's money is my money. I work for the club. I'm there to serve the club and run it the best I can on the field and work with the owners off it.

"They know I push for the best players to come in and they trust how we work. I would not pay more than a value. If clubs sense there is an opportunity to get more out of us it won't happen. We are very unified in how we work in that way. There is money available but we know spending money does not guarantee success.

"Last January everyone was crying out that we needed more signings. We never signed anyone. OK, we might have done with one or two but it was not a major factor in us not winning (the title)."

Lallana is the most expensive deal so far at £25m, but Rodgers rejects the idea Liverpool paid too much for the midfielder.

"We paid what we thought he was worth," he said. "I spoke to enough people about him and have seen enough of him, and know enough people who had seen him and played with him to know he would be a great signing for us. I have no qualms about it. The value of British players is always pushed up. We would not go higher than we thought he was worth.

"He is a great boy. The types of players we bring in have the profile we want so the transition should be smooth. Of course it is strange for them coming into a new team, but you see it with Adam straight away, he presses for the ball when he does not have it and he has beautiful balance. He can score goals and create goals. He is a wonderful footballer.

"I have been impressed by his mentality and character. The character is important. It is not just about the player, but the right type of person. I want players that are committed to the cause to make Liverpool the best we can be.

"I want players resting when they should be resting, training hard and working hard and focusing on their life as footballers.

"We have brought in those types. It is footballing qualities and human qualities we want."

It remains to be seen if he can add long-term target Bertrand. Rodgers thought he had an £8m deal in January, only for Chelsea to block the sale. The London club were unhappy at how little game time Victor Moses received at Anfield while on loan last season and that has made negotiations problematic.

Liverpool are also discussing a loan move for Atletico Madrid right-back Javi Manquillo. (©Daily Telegraph, London)

Ferris_Bueller

Tusky wrote: »

This is worrying. Stars are stars for a reason - because they are in the very top bracket of player. I don't think we have a single player in the bracket at the moment. We are buying lots of good players but no great players.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/i-will-not-waste-luis-suarez-cash-on-stars-vows-brendan-rodgers-30455836.html

It's good to hear Rodgers saying that, I do think he is going about it the right way, he has done a good job so far and I think it's clear to see he has a vision for how he wants us to play. While I think all the signings so far have been solid, I agree that we don't have any stars, and we have just lost one of the biggest. I would think we need to sign one, the signings would be slightly underwhelming if we don't. But realistically we have to ask are there any players that are A) available and fit our way of playing, there's no point in signing a big name for the sake of it.

With the amount of big transfers already this summer I thought that it might make a few more "star players" available, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Boom_Bap

Tusky wrote: »

This is worrying. Stars are stars for a reason - because they are in the very top bracket of player. I don't think we have a single player in the bracket at the moment. We are buying lots of good players but no great players.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/i-will-not-waste-luis-suarez-cash-on-stars-vows-brendan-rodgers-30455836.html

I think we are going about things the right way. Don't get me wrong, I would love one or 2 big star names to arrive. But, we are just back in the Champions League, we've just finished 2nd, we are still in transition. If we have the same sort of finish next year, with a little more of a run in the cups, we would be in with a better chance of getting those players we the fans would love to see.

I firmly believe that our football will be even better this year, but as a star player on the outside looking at us, we are like the girl growing up that has started to turn into a good looking bird, and the star players are just waiting to she if she turns into a cracker.