Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 *mod warning linked in OP 26/07*

Soft Falling Rain

£75m for a chap who just signed a new contract, who is in his peak and will remain so for years to come.

If it wasn't for the bite his fee would have smashed what Bale and Ronaldo cost. There's no reason why we couldn't have commanded such a fee.

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Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

£75m for a chap who just signed a new contract, who is in his peak and will remain so for years to come.

If it wasn't for the bite his fee would have smashed what Bale and Ronaldo cost. There's no reason why we couldn't have commanded such a fee.

£75m was his release clause.

NukaCola

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

£75m for a chap who just signed a new contract, who is in his peak and will remain so for years to come.

If it wasn't for the bite his fee would have smashed what Bale and Ronaldo cost. There's no reason why we couldn't have commanded such a fee.

Release clause?

Agent Coulson

Washington Irving

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

£75m for a chap who just signed a new contract, who is in his peak and will remain so for years to come.

If it wasn't for the bite his fee would have smashed what Bale and Ronaldo cost. There's no reason why we couldn't have commanded such a fee.

Bale and Ronaldo were also 'in their peak' and were both 3-4 years younger than Suarez. The likes of Barrett and Pearce have said that talks had begun before the World Cup, I doubt the bite had much of an effect on the fee.

SlickRic

oh, and the 4 month ban is fully justified by the way.

Gbear

SlickRic wrote: »

oh, and the 4 month ban is fully justified by the way.

So long as it's part of a new direction in punishing serial offenders.

But it won't be.

Turtyturd

klose wrote: »

The real liverpool related news today is that it looks like dani pacheco has signed for real betis from his last club, decent move for him.

We should have put in a buy back clause.

billy2012

Suarez, did the work of 2 players with goals and assists. Impossible to be replaced by one player.

I'll miss the Suarez song next year!!

Soft Falling Rain

billy2012 wrote: »

Suarez, did the work of 2 players with goals and assists. Impossible to be replaced by one player.

I'll miss the Suarez song next year!!

The echo had a good article recently where it compared the Situation to losing Rush. We didn't try to replace like for like. Instead we put our faith in a trio of Beardsley, Barnes and Aldridge.

It does have scary similarities to what Rodgers is seemingly doing.

I mean scary in a good, exciting, way.

5live

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

The echo had a good article recently where it compared the Situation to losing Rush. We didn't try to replace like for like. Instead we put our faith in a trio of Beardsley, Barnes and Aldridge.

It does have scary similarities to what Rodgers is seemingly doing.

I mean scary in a good, exciting, way.

Exactly.

But it would be cool to sign Tevez just for the 'Welcome to Merseyside' banner:pac:

Utopia Parkway

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

£75m for a chap who just signed a new contract, who is in his peak and will remain so for years to come.

If it wasn't for the bite his fee would have smashed what Bale and Ronaldo cost. There's no reason why we couldn't have commanded such a fee.

He's 28 at the end of the year and that along with his, let's be honest, awful disciplinary record means Liverpool probably did well to get what they did for him. As great a player as he is he probably only has a few years left before he starts to decline. His value was only going to decrease not increase. That said I would love if he had stayed.

Nuri Sahin

Suarez just Tweeted this.

@luis16suarez · 40s
I want to share with all the Reds this letter from me and my family. @LFC @HFSG_Official #JFT96

gosplan

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Suarez just Tweeted this.

A very honourable exit for a good guy IMO.

He really helped Liverpool by signing a new deal last year too. I'm sure he had discussed it being his last season with the hierarchy and if he was a mercenary he could have made himself a lot cheaper.

I'll really miss him and will probably think that Wenger not going higher last year was a massive mistake - though tbh it looks like he had his eyes on Spain.

Gbear

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

I'm wanting to be polite here, as I do for the most part like your posts, but what you are saying is the equivalent of those fools that are saying Liverpool choked down the stretch. The likes of the Daily Fail and people who don't even watch the Bundesliga would believe.

I can't be arsed to look for it myself, but it's there, I wrote a very lengthy piece (even for my standards) on Dortmund's season and aspirations in the Bundesliga thread that I'd recommend checking out.

I presume you meant this one:

Speaking for myself here.

The outlook, despite what much of the media in England and fans of EPL clubS think is in fact good so long as we secure CL football, which we will barring another injury crisis.. err... upon the current injury crisis.

When talking about the future, it starts with Zorc (Sporting Director) and Klopp.

etc...

Bayern won the league at a canter last season. If Dortmund get lucky and don't get injuries (because that's what's required when there's such a gulf in strength in depth and financial muscle), they're still massive underdogs. Maybe they'd not be quite as far outsiders as us (because there's really no other competition for the league whereas there's conceivably 5 teams who could win the EPL next season) but they'd still need to have an unimaginably strong season.

If Pep had floundered a bit and really lost a lot of ground on the previous season's tally (and won with say 75-80 pts) I'd feel a lot more confident in Dortmund winning, but they got 90 pts, which is just insane in a 34 game season.

Knex*

I just remembered this, and it made me laugh. Might make a few sad pandas here chuckle!

Years back when I was in secondary school, around the time Saha had dreadlocks and was playing for United, a lad in my school decided he was going to be one of those white guys who attempted to pull of such dreadlocks.

Walks into the first class of the day in front of a farmer/GAA Kerryhead, who turns around and in an awkward bogger tone says, "Christ, lad. Louis Saha, is it? More like Louis Haha"

It was so bloody awkward, and the 'locks were gone within a few days. :pac:

klose

Id be worried if i was a villareal supporter with suarez in la liga now

smileyj1987

Knex. wrote: »

I just remembered this, and it made me laugh. Might make a few sad pandas here chuckle!

Years back when I was in secondary school, around the time Saha had dreadlocks and was playing for United, a lad in my school decided he was going to be one of those white guys who attempted to pull of such dreadlocks.

Walks into the first class of the day in front of a farmer/GAA Kerryhead, who turns around and in an awkward bogger tone says, "Christ, lad. Louis Saha, is it? More like Louis Haha"

It was so bloody awkward, and the 'locks were gone within a few days. :pac:

Haha but I can go one worse !! I have had a mullet I mean that's a travesty of a haircut . Thank you for that one fernando .

sabat

I have a funny feeling he'll be a flop and wind up heading to an oil club next summer for £60M...

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sabat wrote: »

I have a funny feeling he'll be a flop and wind up heading to an oil club next summer for £60M...

Like Chelsea?

mada999

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

Why did Liverpool not go for Mandzukic when he was available to go? He's a beast.

imo he's brutal

Nuri Sahin

Gbear wrote: »

I presume you meant this one:


Bayern won the league at a canter last season. If Dortmund get lucky and don't get injuries (because that's what's required when there's such a gulf in strength in depth and financial muscle), they're still massive underdogs. Maybe they'd not be quite as far outsiders as us (because there's really no other competition for the league whereas there's conceivably 5 teams who could win the EPL next season) but they'd still need to have an unimaginably strong season.

If Pep had floundered a bit and really lost a lot of ground on the previous season's tally (and won with say 75-80 pts) I'd feel a lot more confident in Dortmund winning, but they got 90 pts, which is just insane in a 34 game season.

Lucky? Seriously, just look at last season's injury list. Even it if it was anywhere near the norm for a team competing on all fronts, they'll be more than fine.

I don't quite think you realise the severity of Dortmund's injury woes last season, it was like Arsenal's annual injury woes times x2 or x3, and despite that, they finished second in the league and were somewhat unlucky in the end not to knockout the eventual champions in Real Madrid in the quarter finals. If you have the time, just read through the thread from my optimism pre-opening game last year to the very end at FINALLY getting some strength in depth (word of caution for Liverpool there perhaps), to a near weekly basis moaning at how we'd pick up medium - long term injuries to key starting XI players - Hummels, Piszczek, Subotic, Gundogan, Schmelzer, Bender, Kuba, Aubameyang, Reus, Subotic and Kehl. Players regarded as the best position or damn close to it at one time or another in Hummels, Piszczek, Reus and Gundogan. One of the best CB partnerships in football in Hummels and Subotic. There were times Dortmund had to field 3 midfielders in their defence, occasionally being forced into playing 3 at the back, a system Klopp has said he's rarely used.

Every few years, Bayern have a new team of perceived invincibles, and yet a Sturrgart, Wolfsburg, Werder Bremen or if you wish, Dortmund come along and win the league.

Klopp is still one of the very best coaches.

They'll win the Bundesliga in the next 2 seasons, bookmark it.

Calvin

One thing I'll miss more than Suarez is his chant...god that had such a ring to it.

Turtyturd

sabat wrote: »

I have a funny feeling he'll be a flop and wind up heading to an oil club next summer for £60M...

I have a non funny feeling he won't. Will probably have 3-4 years there, before a final payday in Serie A.

There is nobody they can upgrade on him with.

barone

NukaCola wrote: »

Thats no easy task.

it sure aint,but i think its all we can hope for right now.. we simply cant spunk 80m on one player like other clubs,even 50m .. 20m player these days is just a good player,but could become a great player

SlickRic

the biggest thing we'll miss from Suarez IMO is his will, nay, his desperation to win.

that is the part that will be hardest to replace.

Super-Rush

Calvin Leong wrote: »

One thing I'll miss more than Suarez is his chant...god that had such a ring to it.

Luis Suarez, you know what you are.

viper006

Big Talk of Di Maria to United this evening. On top of sanchez to arsenal and suarez leaving that would be a real killer. Surely we should be all over that.

Soft Falling Rain

SlickRic wrote: »

the biggest thing we'll miss from Suarez IMO is his will, nay, his desperation to win.

that is the part that will be hardest to replace.

That desperation has worked for and against. We got the most we could out of it and I'm happy he's gone tbh.

daithijjj

I think we need some perspective re signing a replacement for Suarez in terms of a striker position. If we look around, Chelsea have spent a while looking for one and been unsuccessful until they paid for Costa (a player i dont really rate that highly but im sure nobody really cares what i think of him :pac:).

I think someone like Bony is about as 'standard' a replacement we could hope to get in this window, given we remove those we definitely cannot get from the equation.

I think the idea now is to gain some of Suarez work rate from wide and deeper positions from Lallana, and to a lesser extent Markovic et al. That would leave someone like Bony to play the more traditional striker role, lets face it theres barely any player i can think of who could really replace the Suarez factor in the team. The grit, the free movement etc he naturally does.

That said, i worry about no apparent look at a DM,.....again. Seems that wont be really addressed until its uber obvious, like not having a single defensive minded player in midfield. Totally unfair to leave that at Can's door imho and also the fact Lucas seems to be on the way, i dont get it personally.

Edit...........we should try for Lucas Moura, just for the craic like.