Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 *mod warning linked in OP 26/07*

ratracer

mike65 wrote: »

Not all these examples are exact successions but you get my drift

Keegan - Dalglish
Dalglish - Rush
Rush - Aldo
Rush (cos he came back!) - Fowler
Owen - Torres
Torres -Carroll -Suarez
Suarez - Sanchez (?) 19 goals and 11 assists last season in la Liga

Liverpool always find another great forward.

FYP!!;)

Dont be at yourself

mike65 wrote: »

Not all these examples are exact successions but you get my drift

Keegan - Dalglish
Dalglish - Rush
Rush - Aldo
Rush (cos he came back!) - Fowler
Owen - Torres
Torres - Suarez
Suarez - Sanchez (?) 19 goals and 11 assists last season in la Liga

Liverpool always find another great forward.

Forgetting:

Fowler - Heskey
Owen - Lord Frodsham

Knex*

mike65 wrote: »

Not all these examples are exact successions but you get my drift

Keegan - Dalglish
Dalglish - Rush
Rush - Aldo
Rush (cos he came back!) - Fowler
Owen - Torres
Torres - Suarez
Suarez - Sanchez (?) 19 goals and 11 assists last season in la Liga

Liverpool always find another great forward.

You're leaving out a few wilderness years there, Mike.

I distinctly remember Baros, Cisse and Crouch being the best we had for a while.

Fizman

Not sure if mentioned already (can't see anything else other than LS talk) but I see that Luis Alberto gone on loan to Malaga for the season.

brevity

Knex. wrote: »

Replacing Suarez would be akin to attempting to replace Gerrard in 05 if he had left.

You can't replace, so you adapt.

Good point.

Buy three players who would make up the goals and assists. We'd miss is his work rate and the influence he has on younger players though. He's had a huge hand in Sterling's development imo. This would have to be factored into who we buy.

slingerz

rob316 wrote: »

Of course they are, Henry and Co will know better than anyone that the CL is the golden goose and to stay there they need to improve the squad. Rodgers will made it abundantly clear we have only about 15 players of any real quality.

Selling Suarez and bringing in 3 top players in his place would be improving the squad, while we wont be able to get a single talent better than him it would still be progress.

Rogers will want quality over quantity in the event Suarez is sold, the board will be all too aware of the trap Spurs fell into last season and going out buying a new team. At the end of the day the only decent player they bought was Eriksen out of £90m.

So far its been Lambert and Can that have been added, squad players and arguably additions to areas where the depth is lacking in the club.

We have heard though that Moreno deal is dead, and he is a good young LB that Liverpool are seeking desperately.

Added to that the much heralded Lallana deal has dragged on and died IMO. Claims that Lovren were to join and bolster a rather shaky defence seems to have stalled

Shaqiri is a dead duck of a deal as well and the only one that seems alive is Sanchez and that is as a replacement for Suarez.

If Suarez goes then Liverpool need to replace him obviously but also bolster the squad in other areas to compensate for losing him.

WRT Spurs purchases, I maintain that those players will show some worth this season also provided they bring in a decent striker

Knex*

brevity wrote: »

Good point.

Buy three players who would make up the goals and assists. We'd miss is his work rate and the influence he has on younger players though. He's had a huge hand in Sterling's development imo. This would have to be factored into who we buy.

Well, straight off the bat I can think of two main things. First, is that Rodgers plays more 4-3-3, and Sturridge becomes the main fella up top.

2nd, as we no longer have the two strikers which helped stopped teams pressing up on us, we would need a new midfield setup. Gerrard would possibly get more exposed in that environment, and we wouldn't quite have the capacity to be so devastating in attack to get away with it.

rob316

slingerz wrote: »

So far its been Lambert and Can that have been added, squad players and arguably additions to areas where the depth is lacking in the club.

We have heard though that Moreno deal is dead, and he is a good young LB that Liverpool are seeking desperately.

Added to that the much heralded Lallana deal has dragged on and died IMO. Claims that Lovren were to join and bolster a rather shaky defence seems to have stalled

Shaqiri is a dead duck of a deal as well and the only one that seems alive is Sanchez and that is as a replacement for Suarez.

If Suarez goes then Liverpool need to replace him obviously but also bolster the squad in other areas to compensate for losing him.

WRT Spurs purchases, I maintain that those players will show some worth this season also provided they bring in a decent striker

Who said Shaqiri was a dead duck, according to Di Marzio last night it is very much on.

slingerz

Fizman wrote: »

Not sure if mentioned already (can't see anything else other than LS talk) but I see that Luis Alberto gone on loan to Malaga for the season.

Hopefully be good for him. Needs to become phyiscally stronger to survive in the premiership

Vanolder

Press conference at 2.30 i'm hearing,,

mike65

Knex. wrote: »

You're leaving out a few wilderness years there, Mike.

I distinctly remember Baros, Cisse and Crouch being the best we had for a while.

Well its true there was a strange little period of Houllier era inspired forwards when Liverpool won the Champions League and FA Cup its true.

Hmmmm top forwards are over-rated!

Riesen_Meal

Vanolder wrote: »

Press conference at 2.30 i'm hearing,,

I hope it's a new signing - and not about Suarez
...

Vanolder

Fieldog wrote: »

I hope it's a new signing - and not about Suarez
...

Sory, a FIFA presser at 2.30...

mike65

I'm going to suggest its got something to do with the Stadium boring stuff like that.

smileyj1987

I hope the punishment is making him stay at LFC for two more seasons .

slingerz

rob316 wrote: »

Who said Shaqiri was a dead duck, according to Di Marzio last night it is very much on.

Di Marzio is supposed to be a spoofer. it is conincidental that the Shaqiri move was back on after last nights hat trick

Muahahaha

At the time of the biting incident I had a quiet smile to myself that this might stave off interest from Real & Barca. But now that I think about it if he ends up with a two year international ban but is free to play the domestic game then buying him makes even more sense as he no longer has to take almost a week off every couple of months to fly down to Uruguay and back for internationals. A world class player without the distractions of his international team is a more attractive prospect to any club team challenging on both domestic and European fronts.

Agueroooo

hope he comes back a better player - good loan for all involved.

slingerz

Agueroooo wrote: »

hope he comes back a better player - good loan for all involved.

No guarantee he comes back IMO.

SteM

whatawaster wrote: »

Of course it was. I've never heard of him biting people outside of football.

It's the red-mist descending. Alan Shearer kicks people in the head. Luis Suarez bites.

It's not pre-meditated

Why would he bite people outside of football?

I never said it was pre-meditated. It's simply something that he thinks is okay to happen on the pitch - he said it himself the other day that it was a coming together that happens. It's one of his ways of winning at any cost. There's no red mist involved imo.

djPSB

It's utter delusion to think that Suarez is in anyway replaceable.

He doesn't just bring a phenomenal amount of goals and assists. He brings a will to win and work rate second to none.

Sanchez, Shaqiri etc. are all good players but not on the same level. Not many players are.

murpho999

Suarez announcement at tooth hurty!

SteM

Alonso77 wrote: »

people arent reading this article properly it seems. have another go at it

I didn't say the author wanted to. I simply said that people want to ignore the other 2 incidents. If it makes you feel better I did carry on reading and it got even more farcical imo. The author seems to be making a case that it wasn't so bad because Suarez didn't 'pursue the act long enough to draw blood.'

Anyway there needs to be some sort of middle ground here which is difficult when you're talking about a player that is so polarizing. Is it as bed as some are making out? No. But people should also remember that he has had help 2 previous times before now and it's something that he has continued to do.

Gbear

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Sanchez is well capable of stepping up and putting up quite similar numbers MHO.

I sincerely doubt he has 30 goals in him.

He's really not the best finisher.

rob316

slingerz wrote: »

Di Marzio is supposed to be a spoofer. it is conincidental that the Shaqiri move was back on after last nights hat trick

Probably the most reliable by some distance.

mike65

Gbear wrote: »

I sincerely doubt he has 30 goals in him.

He's really not the best finisher.

He doesn't need to have 30 goals in him (though he might played more centrally)
he just needs to be 18-20 goals ish and with some better defending, which was also true last season!

Gbear

mike65 wrote: »

He doesn't need to have 30 goals in him (though he might played more centrally)
he just needs to be 18-20 goals ish and with some better defending, which was also true last season!

No, but Nuri said "similar numbers".

I don't see it happening in terms of goals.

Still, there's more than one way to skin a cat. We had **** all goals off the bench last season - I'd be surprised if it was more than 3.
If we up that to 15 it'll cover the shortfall.

gimli2112

Barton, no stranger to controversy himself, wrote on Twitter: "I love Suarez. I love his passion for the game. I would have him on my team everyday of the week. I am also aware you can't defend him here.
"All things considered I'd rather receive a bite than a leg-breaking challenge. Whilst he should be punished, it is not the end of the world.

Joey Barton, the voice of reason? World's gone mad!

x43r0

Live stream of the press conference: http://nos.nl/nieuws/live/journaal24/

Utopia Parkway

4 month ban from football. Will miss first 2 months of season. Don't see anyone buying him now.