PES 2015

whiskeyman

Like FIFA, aparently there's a trailer for the trailer doing the rounds.
Seebass has said to 'Expect Big Things'.
Having moved to FIFA since 2011, I've found the past few FIFAs not really making any effort.
I gave PES2014 a try and it really seemed like a new beginning though. PES2015 could be the moment?
But does anyone really care? PES hasnt been mentinoed on the board in ages.
I really hope Konami can grasp the new release this year and bring PES back to what it does best.

Anyway, throw any of your hopes / thoughts / rants here...

What might work against them is the fact they concentrated on the older consoles for 2014.

Who knows what of that is worth carrying over to the next gen, seems like they should have had 14 a few years back and try to improve it further with the switch.

I'd like to see a decent alternative anyway.

If you want just one reason to dislike FIFA 14, the KO lofted through balls is a complete game ruiner.
I had three games today where my opponent got a goal from the KO and it can have such a massive effect on the final scoreline it kind of makes you think whats the point in playing when you may concede straight after scoring due to game flaws.

It's amazing how good the PES games were on ps2.

For some reason Konami just couldn't carry over the good gameplay to 360/PS3.

I'm getting a bit jaded with Fifa to be honest so would love to see PES just some how copy the game engine from the PS2 era :P

Wilberto

This topic of conversations always inevitably ends with Pro Evo 5 or 6! They were easily the best one's that Konami have made so far. But yeah, I tried getting into PES 2013 as that was built up as the one that will change the face of soccer simulation games. In fairness, they did make a good stab at it but for some reason I still couldn't really get into it. Although, this is more likely because I've fallen out with the PS3 and the 360 as a whole!

Mikeyt086

http://balls.ie/football/first-details-pes-2015-emerged/

Anyone excited for this? Will be interesting to see how Konami fare after taking a year out to work on the next-gen specifically.

dreamers75

No mention of PC on EG today.

Honeslty cba anymore, Hope its good but doubt it.

Gamer Bhoy 89

I think some of us PS2 generation of PES fans are still hoping that there will be that one good PES game to come back. When? - well, we will never know. They have a new gen of consoles to play with and fix their sh*t. I can only hope they make it a decent competitor.

Believe me, as much as I love FIFA, I have tried every PES that has came out since 2008 to see if they have improved, and although there have been slight improvements, they are going in the wrong direction with it - if that makes any sense - by bringing things to the game that pretty much betrayed how good the old games were.

Keep the realistic faces and atmosphere in the game but please, Konami, just give me back the fast-paced challenging gameplay we all loved back in the mid-00's. Give me a second-choice football game to play and actually enjoy. Sometimes I just want a different football experience than FIFA.

Axwell

Threads merged - keep the PES 2015 posts to one thread lads.

Thanks

Hotfail.com

Deleted User wrote: »

It's amazing how good the PES games were on ps2.

For some reason Konami just couldn't carry over the good gameplay to 360/PS3

PES 2010 was class on the 360, pity the rest weren't as good.

I LOVED PES 6, best football game I ever played, closely followed by FIFA 12.

whiskeyman

I read somewhere there that the dev team are really trying to focus more on the ease of movement and looking back to the glory days of PES05.
we live in hope...

Josey Wales

Some pretty good looking quick clips of PES 2015 in action at the link below.

Link

Please, please be good this year.

JBRowan

I used to be FIFA up until 2013 iwas convert to PES 2 years ago I think gameplay makes up for lack of real names

Josey Wales

A bit annoyed that the release date for PES 2015 has been announced as November 13th. That is a good bit later than normal but if it helps improve the game then I suppose it is for the best. There will be a PS4 demo on September 17th.

Cienciano

whiskeyman wrote: »

Like FIFA, aparently there's a trailer for the trailer doing the rounds.
Seebass has said to 'Expect Big Things'.
Having moved to FIFA since 2011, I've found the past few FIFAs not really making any effort.
I gave PES2014 a try and it really seemed like a new beginning though. PES2015 could be the moment?
But does anyone really care? PES hasnt been mentinoed on the board in ages.
I really hope Konami can grasp the new release this year and bring PES back to what it does best.

Anyway, throw any of your hopes / thoughts / rants here...

I've played every game since ISS and they say the same shít every year. Pro Evo developers are worse than liverpool fans for saying "this will be our year".

v3ttel

Gameplay videos now popping up on YouTube. It looks decent. I think launching so far after FIFA will be a killer though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVAU63ccX4g

Zico-PES

Going by the previews of people who actually played it the gameplay seems to be very good. From the clips I watched it was noticeable that there were so few through balls over the top and there was actual build up play. If they have some online game modes that actually work I'll probably pick it up.

Mikeyt086

The issues I've had with PES in recent years are the players are so sluggish and unresponsive, it's like they're stuck in mud, and they never come to the ball, just run along side it.

If those are fixed it will be a good game.

xtal191

PC version wont be next gen

http://www.incgamers.com/2014/08/pes-2015-on-pc-to-have-worse-visuals-than-ps4xbox-one

Hotfail.com

I think I'll pick it up this year, haven't played any properly since 2012 though, which frankly was a bit of a joke... Maxi Rodriguez was one of the best in the game..

Cienciano

I just can't get into them as much any more. I just don't like this years one. Played about 2 seasons in the master league and haven't picked it up for months. They really need to go back to their roots on the PS2. Same method of shooting, similar passing, dribbling, tackling and game speed. Just updated graphics and animations. The last game the players are way too sluggish, dribbling is woeful, player movement is shíte.

whiskeyman

Cienciano wrote: »

I just can't get into them as much any more. I just don't like this years one. Played about 2 seasons in the master league and haven't picked it up for months. They really need to go back to their roots on the PS2. Same method of shooting, similar passing, dribbling, tackling and game speed. Just updated graphics and animations. The last game the players are way too sluggish, dribbling is woeful, player movement is shíte.

Seems that Pes15 is going to try hard to get back to its roots.
The demo next week will hopefully give a good indication.

Cienciano

whiskeyman wrote: »

Seems that Pes15 is going to try hard to get back to its roots.
The demo next week will hopefully give a good indication.

I hope it does. But as I said earlier, every year the sun moon and stars is promised and they never deliver.

Wilberto

whiskeyman wrote: »

Seems that Pes15 is going to try hard to get back to its roots.
The demo next week will hopefully give a good indication.

They said the same about PES 2013, and probably 2014 too although I didn't get that one.

Cienciano

Wilberto wrote: »

They said the same about PES 2013, and probably 2014 too although I didn't get that one.

Couple of nights ago I played 2013 and 2014, one game after another. You missed nothing. 2013 is definitely a lot better.

thorbarry

I always buy this every year, then trade it in after a couple of weeks and get Fifa. Fifa is better, but it still doesn't satisfy my craving the way classic PES did

EdenHazard

Lol I used to be PES for life, but this game blows.

Mr Blobby

EdenHazard wrote: »

Lol I used to be PES for life, but this game blows.

You've played it have you?

Ruxjit

[Anyone excited for this? Will be interesting to see how Konami fare after taking a year out to work on the next-gen specifically.[/QUOTE]


Does that mean the Xbox 360 version will be ignored or maybe just tweaked?

Wilberto

Ruxjit wrote: »

[Anyone excited for this? Will be interesting to see how Konami fare after taking a year out to work on the next-gen specifically.

Does that mean the Xbox 360 version will be ignored or maybe just tweaked?[/QUOTE]

More than likely yes, but I'm sure it's the same story with FIFA. Neither are really focussing on the tight gits (i.e. me! ) who won't shell out for a next gen console!!

witnessmenow

Cienciano wrote: »

Couple of nights ago I played 2013 and 2014, one game after another. You missed nothing. 2013 is definitely a lot better.

I liked 2014

noodler

EG gave PES 2014 a 9/10 which got me excited but then all the other reviews were average.

Didn't end up trying it out myself fo rthe first time in ten years.

dreamers75

pes2014 was terrible very clunky.

Konami really dont get online at all, still have stupid systems in place. I actually play FIFA now just cos I can play with Pats and its not bad even if a 4 foot player can outjump my 6 foot defender.....everytime because his stats number for heading are higher........

astonaidan

I find Pro is a game that just disappoints people anymore, Never made the jump to PS3, played a game at a friends and it felt horrible, like controlling people on tracks, in no way fluid, just a really bad game.
Its a bit sad when you have people saying its better than Fifa, when it doesnt come close tbh

Wilberto

astonaidan wrote: »

I find Pro is a game that just disappoints people anymore, Never made the jump to PS3, played a game at a friends and it felt horrible, like controlling people on tracks, in no way fluid, just a really bad game.
Its a bit sad when you have people saying its better than Fifa, when it doesnt come close tbh

Are there still people out there who think it's better than FIFA? I mean, it was by far the best football game out there in my own opinion (as I've said many times) but, as you've said, it never made a successful jump from the PS2/XBOX. Such a shame and really a story of what could have been.


Then again, maybe PES 2015 will be different! :pac:

astonaidan

Wilberto wrote: »

Are there still people out there who think it's better than FIFA? I mean, it was by far the best football game out there in my own opinion (as I've said many times) but, as you've said, it never made a successful jump from the PS2/XBOX. Such a shame and really a story of what could have been.


Then again, maybe PES 2015 will be different! :pac:

Yup id agree I was a massive pro fan

whiskeyman

Big day tomorrow as the demo gets released.
Some die-hards are already getting the Winning 11 demo from the Japanese download stores to check it out.
Reviews to be out on evo-web.co.uk v soon.
Be sure to post your feelings tomorrow when you have a good go of the demo.

irishchris

whiskeyman wrote: »

Big day tomorrow as the demo gets released.
Some die-hards are already getting the Winning 11 demo from the Japanese download stores to check it out.
Reviews to be out on evo-web.co.uk v soon.
Be sure to post your feelings tomorrow when you have a good go of the demo.

Demo is out today? Already released in ps3 and ps4. Waiting on Xbox one version

whiskeyman

irishchris wrote: »

Demo is out today? Already released in ps3 and ps4. Waiting on Xbox one version

oh you're right! Sorry!
can;t wait to get home so!
When does the XBox store update? I'll be waiting for the 360 demo.

Andrew 83

Thought last year was the first bad PES, didn't like it at all. Think 2013 was a great game and so were the ones immediately before it, this is on XBOX 360.

daRobot

irishchris wrote: »

Demo is out today? Already released in ps3 and ps4. Waiting on Xbox one version

Can't see it in the PSN store?

Josey Wales

Looking forward to playing this on PS4 tonight. Fingers crossed that this is the year they finally make it right.

whiskeyman

Josey Wales wrote: »

Looking forward to playing this on PS4 tonight. Fingers crossed that this is the year they finally make it right.

starting on a bad note!!

http://www.pesfan.com/blog/2014/09/17/pes2015-demo-konami-announcement/

StupidKonami! wrote:

Konami Digital Entertainment B.V. has announced new release dates for the PES 2015 playable demo.

The demo is available now in Asia (excluding Japan) for PlayStation®4 and PlayStation®3, while the Xbox One version will be made available on September 18th.

The demo will also be made available in Japan for PlayStation®4, PlayStation®3 and Xbox One on September 18th, and in the US for PlayStation®4, Xbox One, PlayStation®3 and Xbox 360 on September 23rd. Demo dates for Europe will be announced shortly.

Y2KBOS86

daRobot wrote: »

Can't see it in the PSN store?

Me either.

irishchris

whiskeyman wrote: »

starting on a bad note!!

http://www.pesfan.com/blog/2014/09/17/pes2015-demo-konami-announcement/

Think bad decision by konami. Fifa 15 launches sept 23 in us. People aren't going to buy another soccer franchise when they have already picked up one that day. Wouldn't be surprised if Europe's release date is 25\26 to coincide with Fifa launch date there

Josey Wales

It is available on the HK store so I'm going to create a new account tonight to download it.

Josey Wales

I've been playing the PES 2015 demo for a little while now and I'm very happy. The major flaw in PES 2014 for me was the input lag between the controller and the players movements. It always felt like the new game engine was struggling on the PS3. No worries with the PS4. Player response is smooth.

One other things that they fixed which has always bothered me is quick restarts from a throw-in. No more pointless replays, just straight back into action.

Below is a goal I scored with Bayern.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hJg2E4mRds

corcaigh07

That sounds really promising. I'm not convinced that Fifa will be OK this year so might make the move or at least wait for impressions of both retail versions of the game.

There's definitely room for 2 soccer sims so hopefully Konami can up their game again.

Luckycharms_74

corcaigh07 wrote: »

That sounds really promising. I'm not convinced that Fifa will be OK this year so might make the move or at least wait for impressions of both retail versions of the game.

There's definitely room for 2 soccer sims so hopefully Konami can up their game again.

Thats what I have been hoping for the past 5 years only to be let down. But here's hoping

daRobot

Had a few games of the PES demo, via the Hong Kong method (very easy to do, just set up a PSN account with a HK address)

Personally, I think it's a very poor effort. The graphics are very average, the animations and physics seem unrealistic, and unlike Josey's assessment above, I think there is a bit of button lag.

The interface is also awkward and clunky. Oh, and that power up bar that goes under the players is just cringeworthy bad.

Disgarding the above, the gameplay is decent, and no doubt it'll be a fun game, but Fifa 15 is so vastly superior (and this comes from someone who wouldn't touch a Fifa game until the ps4 release, which I thoroughly enjoyed)

Played the Fifa 15 demo straight after, and it feels like night and day.

With PES in the past you could put up with the poor commentary, lack of official kits etc, due to the superior gameplay. Sadly, the gameplay is not longer in any way better, so to me Fifa is a no-brainer.

Raymond Pest

corcaigh07 wrote: »

That sounds really promising. I'm not convinced that Fifa will be OK this year so might make the move or at least wait for impressions of both retail versions of the game.

There's definitely room for 2 soccer sims so hopefully Konami can up their game again.

I've been waiting for the demo before I make up my mind but I'm thinking of just getting Fifa and trading it in against PES when its out.
As much as I want to hold out for pes i've been let down too many times by konami

Keith186

http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/pes-2015-demo-available-right-now/

Update to article says its delayed. Could be Sept 23rd but not sure if that'sUSA only as it says they will announce European dates later.