3k To Spend On A Scott Or Canyon or Bianchi or Focus or...???

furiousox

So I'm faced with a rather nice dilemma.
In a couple of months I'll hopefully have a budget of around 3k for a new bike.

Currently on my wishlist in order of preference are...

1) Scott Addict
2) Canyon SLX or SL
3) Focus Cayo
4) Trek Madone
5) Bianchi Infinito
6) Giant TCR

Spec wise, I will probably go with 11spd Ultegra and Mavic Ksyrium SLRs.

I want to go with something pretty high end that I will hang on to for the long term and won't need to upgrade.
The most important requirement is a frame that feels alive and engaging to ride.
A fast, exciting ride that's not too stiff and uncomfortable.
(That's why I'm going for the Addict instead of the Foil)
I'm torn between the Scott and the Canyon.
Both seem very similar in price, spec and performance and are pro-level frames.
The Focus interests me too and gets very good reviews, as does the Bianchi, although the Bianchi may be a bit more comfort orientated.
The Madone and TCR are also well proven at this stage but don't appeal to me quite as much.
I'm currently on a Scott CR1 which is fine but a little bit unexciting sometimes.
I had a Canyon UCF before which I found stiff at the time but regret selling now as it was a faster and more engaging ride than the CR1.
Any UCF SL or Addict owners out there?

iwillhtfu

Slightly over but sure nothing ever stays on budget. A lot of bike for the money.

http://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=3300#tab-reiter2

Nice wheel set. Might be a sale or swap for ksyriums

http://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=3299

Inquitus

Hard to look past the Canyon, for your €3k you are getting alot more than if you go the Scott Route no?

stripeypaint

Cannondale Supersix Evo?2999euro
more or less full ultegra group/ upgraded cranks if your an fsa fan.
wheels are a downside but the quality of the frame makes up for it.

the madone and tcr's have come a long way in the past 2/3 years.
That Canyon is alot of bike for the money would be a good investment, make sure to get a spare dropout or two.

furiousox

Inquitus wrote: »

Hard to look past the Canyon, for your €3k you are getting alot more than if you go the Scott Route no?

https://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=3295

http://www.wheelworx.ie/scott-addict-10-2014?keyword=scott%20addict&category_id=0

They look to be very similar for the price I thought?

Beasty

Posted this elsewhere but Ridley Excalibur Ultegra Di2 for £2,199 - only have up to M left but that should be fine for you furiousox

furiousox

iwillhtfu wrote: »

Slightly over but sure nothing ever stays on budget. A lot of bike for the money.

http://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=3300#tab-reiter2

Nice wheel set. Might be a sale or swap for ksyriums

http://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=3299

The Aeroad is a nice looking bike too but I went for the SLX over the Aeroad as online reviews say the Aeroad is not quite as responsive or as comfortable as the SLX.
Does look good though!

Inquitus

The Wheels on the Canyon are worth 1300-1400 yoyos on their own, the Syncros considerably less no? 600 perhaps?

furiousox

Inquitus wrote: »

The Wheels on the Canyon are worth 1300-1400 yoyos on their own, the Syncros considerably less no? 600 perhaps?

D'oh!
Of course.
Was thinking of upgrading the wheels on the Scott to SLRs but of course that is more expense.
Another factor is that the Scott is available locally and the Canyons are starting to sell out in certain sizes.

Ole Rodrigo

I'd say the Canyon, but I'd hate to see too many of them around.

Scott Addict is good to show off to your non cycling friends.

Cannondale super six is a serious contender.

furiousox

Just found this quote from bikeradar...

The frame isn’t as stiff as some (Canyon’s Ultimate CF SLX 7.0, for instance) and takes more effort to create speed, but the root cause of the Addict’s minor reluctance is the wheelset.

http://www.wielertochten.nl/scott-addict-10-review/

fondriest

Some good deals on Scott's here , http://www.cycledivision.co.uk

stripeypaint

Surely for this money Di2 has to be an option. Its come on so much since the initial generation, the benefits surpass the negatives. As soon as 105 Di2 appears the mechanical market with become niche.

Lumen

Cannondale Super Six Evo Ultegra 2014, 3k.
https://www.cyclesuperstore.ie/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=68635

furiousox

Lotta love for the Cannondale out there.
Haven't really considered it, would it be up there (frame wise) with the Canyon and Scott?

Inquitus

furiousox wrote: »

Lotta love for the Cannondale out there.
Haven't really considered it, would it be up there (frame wise) with the Canyon and Scott?

If it's good enough for Peter Sagan......

Plastik

http://s-tec-essence.eshop.t-online.de/epages/Store4_Shop38023.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Shop38023/Products/StSF22/SubProducts/StSF22-0004

Stock Scenero G2 with Force22 for €2,999

stripeypaint

furiousox wrote: »

Lotta love for the Cannondale out there.
Haven't really considered it, would it be up there (frame wise) with the Canyon and Scott?

it's more the other way around IMO.

Anywhere doing demo's that you can get your hands on?

furiousox

Wheelworx have the Scott and CSS do Cannondale I think.

ckeego

Colnago CLX 3.0 with Di2 here, but wheels would need an upgrade for you, I guess?

http://www.merlincycles.com/colnago-clx-30-ultegra-di2-bike-2013-65561.html

Zyzz

http://s-tec-essence.eshop.t-online.de/epages/Store4_Shop38023.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Shop38023/Products/GTCRA02013

ckeego

Some sweet high specced ex team Ridleys here, in and around your budget..

http://www.merlincycles.com/ridley-road-bikes-61365/

You also may want to check out Kinetixproducts.ie for Scott, Pinarello, Canyon etc again, ex team bikes-based out in Sandyford.

Plastik

http://s-tec-essence.eshop.t-online.de/epages/Store4_Shop38023.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Shop38023/Products/99951UDi2%5B1%5D/SubProducts/99951UDi2%5B1%5D-0001

Storck Scentron on Ultegra Di2 for €2,699

WillyFXP

slightly over, but massive spec http://www.rosebikes.com/bike/rose-xeon-x-lite-3100-di2-2014/aid:672775

CptMackey

Bianchi purely because it is a bianchi.

furiousox

Appreciate all the comments and suggestions, keep 'em coming.
Plenty of food for thought, will also consider a Di2 spec bike within budget.
Still like to hear from anyone who's tried an addict.

furiousox

Have to say this still does it for me, lovin' the stealth look.

ckeego

furiousox wrote: »

Appreciate all the comments and suggestions, keep 'em coming.
Plenty of food for thought, will also consider a Di2 spec bike within budget.
Still like to hear from anyone who's tried an addict.

I rode last year with a fella who had bought an ex Columbia HTC Scott Addict and it was one of the sweetest bikes I have ever laid eyes on.

Very quiet on the road-awesome piece of kit. Best of luck with the search:cool:

furiousox

Thanks, I know I'm in a fortunate position so I'm going to take my time and do plenty of research.
Hoping this is a purchase for the long term.

yop

Plastik wrote: »

http://s-tec-essence.eshop.t-online.de/epages/Store4_Shop38023.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Shop38023/Products/99951UDi2%5B1%5D/SubProducts/99951UDi2%5B1%5D-0001

Storck Scentron on Ultegra Di2 for €2,699

They do some lovely bikes with great kits. Me want one

TiBoy

furiousox wrote: »

The Aeroad is a nice looking bike too but I went for the SLX over the Aeroad as online reviews say the Aeroad is not quite as responsive or as comfortable as the SLX.
Does look good though!

I have an aeroad. It's a comfy bike in comparison to my titanium merlin. At the risk of being heretical, in contrast to opinions that abound on the interweb regarding the ride quality of titanium, I think the aeroad is more comfortable.

I would'nt let the online reviews put you off an aeroad, some of which are confusing and bewildering, based on my experience of the bike.

The SLX is very nice though.

A family member has an SL due in two weeks and so we will have the horrible job of comparing it with the aeroad. Ha!

letape

ror_74 wrote: »

Scott Addict is good to show off to your non cycling friends.

Just wondering what you meant by this?

I'd take a look at the Scott foil with di2 in Westbrook cycles - seriously discounted at the moment.

clod71

I've a Bianchi Sempre, I love it.

Ole Rodrigo

letape wrote: »

Just wondering what you meant by this?

I'd take a look at the Scott foil with di2 in Westbrook cycles - seriously discounted at the moment.

Its light and people often equate that with the quality of a road bike.

bazzamac

furious.i also have an aeroad.more than welcome to check it out.i absolutely love it.based in south Dublin.

Scrappy600

http://planetxireland.com/products-page/n2a/n2a-ultegra-offer/

Full ultegra 6800, €2,470 well under budget and was reviewed in last months cycling plus and they liked it, if a little racy geometry wise...

furiousox

Appreciate all the suggestions lads but having slept on it I think it will be a choice between the Scott or a Canyon (SLX or SL)
I've owned a Canyon before so I know how they ride, I reckon if I bought anything else I'd always be wondering how it compares to an SLX.
My first choice was the SLX but they are now out of stock which opened the door towards the Addict.
As mrs ox reminds me "you don't have to spend all the money" :eek: so the Canyon SL 7.0 @ E1600 is also in the running, it's still in stock too.
Does anyone know when the SLX might be back in stock again, is it for the Tour or later on in the year?

cheerspal

Have my Canyon SL two months now and its just been brilliant. So smooth on the road absorbing the bumps making the ride amazing. It added about 4km/ph to my average aswell.

Lumen

I had an Addict. It was a nice bike, bit of a rocketship. Quite stiff though.

If I was looking at Scott again I might consider a CR1 or Solace. I think I'd sacrifice a bit of punchiness for a smoother ride.

Riding a superbike slowly is not a great experience.

Brian?

I'd got for this:

http://www.westbrookcycles.co.uk/scott-foil-15-di2-aero-road-frameset-2012-with-ultegra-6800-11-speed-di2-groupset-p237560

With the rest of your budget you could get some fairly decent wheels.

2 Wheels Good

This was posted in the bargain thread last month, Wilier Zero 9 for €2500 with Ultegra
Great bike for the price

Daroxtar

http://www.bikelineshop.de/fahrraeder/wilier/rennraeder/wilier-zero-9-shimano-ultegra-special.html
same bike but they have it in stock in both colour options. I'm giving it some serious consideration myself

derealbadger

Here is the Scott foil15 built up yesterday bought the wheels here of somebody that had just bought the canyon nice bike to but the foil with DI2 and wheels and finishing kit has cost me €2900 and for that money it is miles the best buy available at the moment

fat bloke

derealbadger wrote: »

Here is the Scott foil15 built up yesterday bought the wheels here of somebody that had just bought the canyon nice bike to but the foil with DI2 and wheels and finishing kit has cost me €2900 and for that money it is miles the best buy available at the moment

Oof! That's punch-in-the-solar-plexus good looking.

Those wheels are crackin'

Craig06

I have this https://www.cyclesuperstore.ie/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=67318

Fantastic to ride. Stiff but comfortable. Great for racing and cruising.

furiousox

Lumen wrote: »

I had an Addict. It was a nice bike, bit of a rocketship. Quite stiff though.
If I was looking at Scott again I might consider a CR1 or Solace. I think I'd sacrifice a bit of punchiness for a smoother ride.
Riding a superbike slowly is not a great experience.

I think the new Addict is more comfortable than the previous version while still retaining the speed?
I'm currently on a CR1 which is fine, just a little bit unexciting sometimes.
I'm not considering the Scott Foil as it is an out and out performance bike and a bit unforgiving.
The Addict seems to be race orientated but comfortable which sounds like what I'm after.
You're right about riding a performance bike slowly though, not a good look.
(I average 27-28kph on a good day )

furiousox

derealbadger wrote: »

Here is the Scott foil15 built up yesterday bought the wheels here of somebody that had just bought the canyon nice bike to but the foil with DI2 and wheels and finishing kit has cost me €2900 and for that money it is miles the best buy available at the moment

Beauty!

joe14

derealbadger wrote: »

Here is the Scott foil15 built up yesterday bought the wheels here of somebody that had just bought the canyon nice bike to but the foil with DI2 and wheels and finishing kit has cost me €2900 and for that money it is miles the best buy available at the moment

Were did you buy that frame, lovely bike...

derealbadger

joe14 wrote: »

Were did you buy that frame, lovely bike...

Westbrook
http://www.westbrookcycles.co.uk/scott-foil-15-di2-aero-road-frameset-2012-with-ultegra-6800-11-speed-di2-groupset-p246029

mistermatthew

The Bianchi is just beautiful.

furiousox

Two interesting reviews here which I am reading and re-reading again and again.

"This same compliance adds comfort for the long haul that no SCOTT, CR1, Addict or Foil, has had before."

http://pelotonmagazine.com/tested/a-climber-returns-the-2014-scott-addict-20/

"Canyon have struck a fine balance (and not an easy one to achieve on a lightweight race bike) between the low weight and rigidity of the frame, and a smooth ride."

http://roadcyclinguk.com/gear/canyon-ultimate-cf-sl-9-0-sl-review.html#


The Addict is E2499

http://www.wheelworx.ie/scott-addict-20-2014?keyword=scott

The CF SL is E2199

https://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=3241

Better spec on the Canyon for sure.