Cork vs Limerick, Munster Hurling Final 2014, July 13th, 4pm Mod Warning Post #555

Fireball07

It hadn't occurred for 21 years but now, for the 2nd year in a row, Limerick and Cork will face in the Munster hurling final; Limerick are going for a 2-in-a-row, while Cork haven't won one in 8 years, which is a significant gap for a team with the stature of Cork.


This thread is being made very early, but there should be a good build-up... maybe not as hugely hyped as last year but both sides will again feel they can make an impact in this year's All-Ireland. Cork are the strong favourites after how they disposed of Clare.


There is a chance there could be a repeat of last year's minor Munster final too... Waterford already beat Clare in the earlier round, have to face them again; while Limerick play Cork in the other semi-final. That will be a tight one. And it's on the same day as the World Cup final... 2 of the greatest occasions in world sport on the one day



The main talking point today has been to do with tickets/capacity. Cork have home advantage after it was played in the Gaelic Grounds last year but Páirc Uí Caoimh's capacity has been reduced to 34,000 for health & safety reasons and it is very unlikely that it will be able to live with the demand for tickets. Some people are touting Thurles/Killarney as alternatives, and the chairman of the Limerick County Board, Oliver Mann, has said they'll offer to play it in the Gaelic Grounds and then go down to Cork the next two times. But to be quite honest, I can't see Cork giving up home advantage. Unless the Munster Council step in and tell them they have to move it, but I'm not sure they have the authority.

On a purely selfish note, apparently I should be able to get a ticket through my club either way... although club tickets are generally in the stand, and the stand in the Pairc is a miserable place... I am quite tall, and I don't think I've ever been more uncomfortable. The terrace is nearly always a better atmosphere in any ground in the country, but I think those tickets are being sold through Centra/Super Valu this year.

lukin

Fireball07 wrote: »

The main talking point today has been to do with tickets/capacity. Cork have home advantage after it was played in the Gaelic Grounds last year but Páirc Uí Caoimh's capacity has been reduced to 34,000 for health & safety reasons and it is very unlikely that it will be able to live with the demand for tickets. Some people are touting Thurles/Killarney as alternatives, and the chairman of the Limerick County Board, Oliver Mann, has said they'll offer to play it in the Gaelic Grounds and then go down to Cork the next two times. But to be quite honest, I can't see Cork giving up home advantage. Unless the Munster Council step in and tell them they have to move it, but I'm not sure they have the authority.

On a purely selfish note, apparently I should be able to get a ticket through my club either way... although club tickets are generally in the stand, and the stand in the Pairc is a miserable place... I am quite tall, and I don't think I've ever been more uncomfortable. The terrace is nearly always a better atmosphere in any ground in the country, but I think those tickets are being sold through Centra/Super Valu this year.

I can't see Cork giving up home advantage. I am OK as I have my ticket sorted already (season ticket) but it's shame that a lot of people who want to go won't be able to see this game.

Fireball07

lukin wrote: »

I can't see Cork giving up home advantage. I am OK as I have my ticket sorted already (season ticket) but it's shame that a lot of people who want to go won't be able to see this game.

There was only 26,000 at the 2012 final down there, 36 the year before, but you'd expect a much bigger crowd for Limerick-Cork.


I suppose there's no chance of it being deemed unfit to hold a Munster final? Would be very harsh on Cork, but neither Waterford or Clare play at home because their grounds don't have the capacity... Cork do, but at the moment, they won't hold the expected crowd.

podgec20

As a limerick man living in Cork and engaged to Cork woman, I cannot wait for Munster final I think in the interest of everyone, Cork should agree to have it played in thurles. Wouldnt expect Cork to give limerick home advantage a second time but thurles is a superior venue to pairc ui chaoimh and the extra 19,000 tickets will relieve an awful amount of stress on genuine GAA fans who want to see the game. It would also relieve a lot of stress on my knees if its not in cork with the seats in both stands

Figsy32

To play devil's advocate, what about us Cork men who in the last 2 years have had 5 games in Thurles, 1 in Limerick, a plethora of games in Dublin but none in Cork? It's even worse for us who also follow the footballers!

It'll make a nice change not to have to pay travel costs because it's an awfully expensive business supporting that sort of schedule.

podgec20

Figsy32 wrote: »

To play devil's advocate, what about us Cork men who in the last 2 years have had 5 games in Thurles, 1 in Limerick, a plethora of games in Dublin but none in Cork? It's even worse for us who also follow the footballers!

It'll make a nice change not to have to pay travel costs because it's an awfully expensive business supporting that sort of schedule.

I would agree totally with the travel costs incurred and can empathise. it would actually suit me better as well from a travel point of view if it is in Cork as I could nearly walk to the stadium. But 34,000 capacity is way too small for a Munster final between two of the best supported teams in the country. I was at the munster final in 2011 and there an attendance of 37,000 with massive chunks of spaces on the blackrock terrace. Maybe they could review the capacity as unless they have done serious work on it in the meantime(which they havent i'd say) over 40,000 should fit comfortably

sean mac

this WILL be played as the last munster championship in the pairc and will be a sell out with a huge cork crowd. Cork will win by between 4-5 points, limerick are a great bunch of triers in fairness to them but outside of their last win over tipp are terrible travellers. Will be great to get onto the pitch afterwards to celebrate corks last munster championship win in franks park.

Browney7

sean mac wrote: »

this WILL be played as the last munster championship in the pairc and will be a sell out with a huge cork crowd. Cork will win by between 4-5 points, limerick are a great bunch of triers in fairness to them but outside of their last win over tipp are terrible travellers. Will be great to get onto the pitch afterwards to celebrate corks last munster championship win in franks park.

So much fail in this post.

Last time limerick played cork in cork we were on strike so get rid of that year. In a quarter final when we were a shambles after getting a hiding from Clare we lost by a point in tom semples field. The time before that ask James butler and Barry Foley what happened in 2001. In 1996 the previous time before that Cork got an all merciful dusting. No limerick team will ever fear a red shirt.

Suits limerick fine that Cork are favourites but if you go through each teams first 15 there's some massive battles that will be had Richie v Horgan, Hickey v lehane, condon v cadogan to name three. Limerick backs are very solid and won't be half as loose as clare were yesterday.

Remember the league in pairc ui rinn with limerick having 14 for 50 minutes getting a draw. This will be some battle.

Figsy32

Must admit that since the start of the year Limerick are constantly being underrated. Solid backs and a forward line that has potential to be lethal if they catch fire. I'd be under no illusions how tough it'll be for Cork, regardless of where it'll be played!

RoyalCelt

You could get 60k-70k for this in Croke Park. If they agreed to that Cork could get a home match v Limerick next time they play or when the Pairc is built in a few years.

The White Feather

RoyalCelt wrote: »

You could get 60k-70k for this in Croke Park. If they agreed to that Cork could get a home match v Limerick next time they play or when the Pairc is built in a few years.

You mean they should play the Munster Final in Croke Park?!!!

More chance of Davy Fitz being humble! (just a joke!)

RoyalCelt

The White Feather wrote: »

You mean they should play the Munster Final in Croke Park?!!!

More chance of Davy Fitz being humble! (just a joke!)

They played the Ulster final in Croke Park for a year or two and got crowds between 60-70k.

Limerick and Munster both have Colossal support. This could even be a sell out if they marketed it right. I hope it happens we all know how much the GAA love the extra cash so I'm sure it's an option they're presenting Cork with. The GAA and the government are giving a lot of money to rebuild corks stadium so a money spinner like this shouldn't be missed.

RoyalCelt

RoyalCelt wrote: »

They played the Ulster final in Croke Park for a year or two and got crowds between 60-70k.

Limerick and Munster both have Colossal support. This could even be a sell out if they marketed it right. I hope it happens we all know how much the GAA love the extra cash so I'm sure it's an option they're presenting Cork with. The GAA and the government are giving a lot of money to rebuild corks stadium so a money spinner like this shouldn't be missed.

For the AI semi's last year Cork must of brought 30k and Limerick 40k. Add on neutrals and it could be very close to a sell out.

And keep in mind both have bigger support this year than last.

Fireball07

RoyalCelt wrote: »

You could get 60k-70k for this in Croke Park. If they agreed to that Cork could get a home match v Limerick next time they play or when the Pairc is built in a few years.

I think 60-70k is a huge exaggeration. I'd say the crowd will be 40k+... it was pretty much a sellout last year, I know pretty much every club sold all their tickets and there was a demand for more. It didn't actually reach the 44k but had the capacity been 50k, I'd say it would have reached 45/46/47.

magentis

Browney7 wrote: »

So much fail in this post.

Last time limerick played cork in cork we were on strike so get rid of that year. In a quarter final when we were a shambles after getting a hiding from Clare we lost by a point in tom samples field. The time before that ask James butler and Barry Foley what happened in 2001. In 1996 the previous time before that Cork got an all merciful dusting. No limerick team will ever fear a red shirt.

Suits limerick fine that Cork are favourites but if you go through each teams first 15 there's some massive battles that will be had Richie v Horgan, Hickey v lehane, condon v cadogan to name three. Limerick backs are very solid and won't be half as loose as clare were yesterday.

Remember the league in pairc ui rinn with limerick having 14 for 50 minutes getting a draw. This will be some battle.

Tom Samples field?

Fireball07

magentis wrote: »

Tom Samples field?

*Semple, presumably.

ArielAtom

Hoping for a Limerick win. Great supporters.

Browney7

In fairness when the Gaelic grounds was unfit to safely hold a large crowd at the end of the 90s/start of the 00's our home and away agreements counted for nothing.

The early rounds of the championships in that time though always had large attendances and so it was fair enough our games were in neutral venues. The exits and tunnels are what's dangerous in Cork unless they've upgraded them since the last time I was there? The terraces are more than big enough to hold a large a crowd but the exits/entrances under the stands and terraces are very claustrophobic.

Realistically it will be in Cork but no venue confirmed on GAA.ie yet. When do the CCCC meet to decide the fixture?

Ompala

Cork will be favourites, having played 3 games versus Limericks 1 will be a big advantage

Limerick will have no fear of Cork whatsoever, but their forwards will need to play much better than they did against Tipp

Cork backs won't foul anywhere near the level Tipp did, so they need to get a lot more scores from play

Cork forwards will work a lot harder too and put Limerick backs under much more pressure, so they need to be much smarter with the ball

Midfield will be key, Walsh and Kearney vs Browne and Ryan. Whoever comes out on top here will have a big advantage

Concern for Cork will be they aren't great at going for goal, Limerick seem much better at this. On Sunday Clare got two very soft goals from high balls, be surprised if Limerick don't look into this

Cork should have enough to do it, but it should be close

Whats the story with Tom Condon btw, is he allowed play in the final?

TCDStudent1

Browney7 wrote: »

In fairness when the Gaelic grounds was unfit to safely hold a large crowd at the end of the 90s/start of the 00's our home and away agreements counted for nothing.

The early rounds of the championships in that time though always had large attendances and so it was fair enough our games were in neutral venues. The exits and tunnels are what's dangerous in Cork unless they've upgraded them since the last time I was there? The terraces are more than big enough to hold a large a crowd but the exits/entrances under the stands and terraces are very claustrophobic.

Realistically it will be in Cork but no venue confirmed on GAA.ie yet. When do the CCCC meet to decide the fixture?

I was sure I checked this yesterday and saw that it was on in Cork. But you are right, it has "TBC" up there now. Maybe I checked on a different site that said Cork.

Fireball07

Ompala wrote: »

Cork will be favourites, having played 3 games versus Limericks 1 will be a big advantage

Limerick will have no fear of Cork whatsoever, but their forwards will need to play much better than they did against Tipp

Cork backs won't foul anywhere near the level Tipp did, so they need to get a lot more scores from play

Cork forwards will work a lot harder too and put Limerick backs under much more pressure, so they need to be much smarter with the ball

Midfield will be key, Walsh and Kearney vs Browne and Ryan. Whoever comes out on top here will have a big advantage

Concern for Cork will be they aren't great at going for goal, Limerick seem much better at this. On Sunday Clare got two very soft goals from high balls, be surprised if Limerick don't look into this

Cork should have enough to do it, but it should be close

Whats the story with Tom Condon btw, is he allowed play in the final?

Both Limerick & Cork benefited from lots of frees, and neither will get the same amount again.

Limerick's forward line & half-back line will need to play a lot better... if Harnedy can have the same influence that Bonner Maher had, we'll be in trouble. But Downes at centre-forward (if he plays there) will pose Ellis a lot more problems. I do think we need to go for goals.

Midfield will be a titanic battle if the players play like they did in the most recent game, all 4 were fantastic.


And I don't think anything came of the Condon incident.

TCDStudent1

Fireball07 wrote: »

Both Limerick & Cork benefited from lots of frees, and neither will get the same amount again.

Limerick's forward line & half-back line will need to play a lot better... if Harnedy can have the same influence that Bonner Maher had, we'll be in trouble. But Downes at centre-forward (if he plays there) will pose Ellis a lot more problems. I do think we need to go for goals.

Midfield will be a titanic battle if the players play like they did in the most recent game, all 4 were fantastic.


And I don't think anything came of the Condon incident.

ooh, a battle between Kearney and Browne could be pretty good alright!

Amprodude

Limerick should win this handy enough by about 15 points. Munster champions against the All Ireland runners up. Cork won't have a hope here and its Limericks to lose. Cork will be lucky if they can even stay with this unreal Limerick team.

Vanolder

Cork by 8.

slingerz

Pairc Ui Chaoimh has a capacity of 40,500. The Gaelic Grounds is 43,000. Hardly a monumental difference and the 34,000 capacity is what was recommended it be reduced to but that has never happened.

Its the turn of it to be in Pairc Ui Chaoimh this year, simple as. To be fair you dont see Kerry whinging about coming to Pairc Ui Chaoimh for the Munster Football Final

eigrod

slingerz wrote: »

Pairc Ui Chaoimh has a capacity of 40,500. The Gaelic Grounds is 43,000. Hardly a monumental difference and the 34,000 capacity is what was recommended it be reduced to but that has never happened.

Its the turn of it to be in Pairc Ui Chaoimh this year, simple as. To be fair you dont see Kerry whinging about coming to Pairc Ui Chaoimh for the Munster Football Final

Agreed. And one would assume they are not reducing the capacity in the 2 stands, which is where the real discomfort is (ie they are going to sell a ticket for every seat). The terraces in the Páirc are fine and quite roomy.

Soulcrew09

eigrod wrote: »

The terraces in the Páirc are fine and quite roomy.

Pack enough people in and they are cramped and dangerous, small narrow exits at the bottom of a steep terrace and a fence stopping any overflow onto the pitch. Was in the Blackrock end for Cork v Tipp a few years back and you had hundreds spill onto the pitch once the stewards finally found the key to open a gate.

shockframe

slingerz wrote: »

Its the turn of it to be in Pairc Ui Chaoimh this year, simple as. To be fair you dont see Kerry whinging about coming to Pairc Ui Chaoimh for the Munster Football Final

Kerry don't travel in big numbers to Cork for a Munster Final and parts of Cork act as if football doesn't exist.The crowds for Cork-Kerry finals in PUC have been around 25000-30000 on average since the backdoor came in.

The capacity at last years Hurling final is a far better measure of a likely crowd here.

Browney7

slingerz wrote: »

Pairc Ui Chaoimh has a capacity of 40,500. The Gaelic Grounds is 43,000. Hardly a monumental difference and the 34,000 capacity is what was recommended it be reduced to but that has never happened.

Its the turn of it to be in Pairc Ui Chaoimh this year, simple as. To be fair you dont see Kerry whinging about coming to Pairc Ui Chaoimh for the Munster Football Final

The Gaelic grounds capacity used be up around 49500 but was cut after floodlights were installed and for health and safety reasons.

Gaa commissioned the Slattery report in 2011 and it was recommended that the capacity of the pairc be reduced to 32500 unless works were undertaken as per an article in the independent at the time.

There's a lot of politics and horse trading to be done yet but Cork owe Tipp a game and will owe limerick a game if this one is played in Cork and realistically will owe Kerry a football game after this year.

The new stadium will need games but if Cork use up all their home games now on a dilapidated Pairc would it not be a waste?

If the Munster council deem Cork a suitable venue it won't bother us one bit but I doubt the Munster council will want to leave a potential 200k on the table (extra 10,000 people x €20) either.

Rightwing

I'd prefer the game to be played in Cork if it can hold 40,000.

Decision due in a weeks time.

Gary Neville

Very good point about the cost of redevelopment of PUC - we need to know what the capacity will be. At 34,000, the GAA would lose c €340,000. If Frank was promised this cash for the his pet project then, we'd be off to Thurles in a flash.

GrandSoftDay

Amprodude wrote: »

Limerick should win this handy enough by about 15 points. Munster champions against the All Ireland runners up. Cork won't have a hope here and its Limericks to lose. Cork will be lucky if they can even stay with this unreal Limerick team.

Yip, I hear ye will be using 2 goalies to keep the ball picked out to the men in green, who said JBM doesn't do tactics

Rightwing

GrandSoftDay wrote: »

Yip, I hear ye will be using 2 goalies to keep the ball picked out to the men in green, who said JBM doesn't do tactics

Well if we don't give away cheap frees, nothing to fear.

Need a good ref though.

GrandSoftDay

Rightwing wrote: »

Well if we don't give away cheap frees, nothing to fear.

Need a good ref though.

James McGrath?

corcaigh07

Play it in Killarney, great Stadium, lots of capacity, neutral, handy to get to for both counties and better craic!

Vanolder

It doesn't matter where it is on, Cork will walk it.

bennyl10

Vanolder wrote: »

It doesn't matter where it is on, Cork will walk it.

Says the man who said Tipp would walk it in Semple.

Unfortunately expect cork to have enough, especially if its in PUC, but expect a tight game none the less!

Could anything be read into the fact they're waiting til the minor to confirm venue?

Like if limerick overcome cork they'd put them both in thurles, but if Cork win make it a cork double header in PUC?

Vanolder

bennyl10 wrote: »

Says the man who said Tipp would walk it in Semple.

Unfortunately expect cork to have enough, especially if its in PUC, but expect a tight game none the less!

Could anything be read into the fact they're waiting til the minor to confirm venue?

Like if limerick overcome cork they'd put them both in thurles, but if Cork win make it a cork double header in PUC?

Limerick mullocked their way through Tipp, Cork will have too much hurling for them..... Whatever about Cork and Limerick minors, they will have to allow x amount of tickets for Waterford/Clare minors too, so that also eats into the 34k

menace404

Soulcrew09 wrote: »

Pack enough people in and they are cramped and dangerous, small narrow exits at the bottom of a steep terrace and a fence stopping any overflow onto the pitch. Was in the Blackrock end for Cork v Tipp a few years back and you had hundreds spill onto the pitch once the stewards finally found the key to open a gate.

This game WILL take place in PUC. Official capacity of PUC is 43500. Simply check the Cork GAA website.

Rightly, there was a report in 2011 indicating that some grounds including PUC should be reduced for health and safety concerns and the pairc was one of these suggested as reducing capacity to 38000 BUT there was a clause put into the report that capacity could remain the same if remedies to the most severe issues were address. I see the Cork County Board and the Munster Board rounding this down to the 40k mark to play it safe. Thankfully they have rectified this type of situation and did it successfully some time ago. When Cork played Tipp in 2012 in the Munster Semi in the Pairc, they had the large EXIT gates open and barriers in place so that ticket holders would not need to go through the dreadful turnstiles. These significantly increased the rate at which people could get into the ground. No jostling, no cattle mart queues, nice and easy in the end and well policed it was, and that was a crowd of 38000 if memory serves me. Likewise they left the gates open at half time too and had portaloos along the underpasses of each of the main stands and designated smoking areas. They will have the same thing in place for both Munster finals this year. They also strictly policed ticketless fans arriving at the terrace turnstiles and handing 20notes to the auld fella in the turnstile who in turn was pocketing the cash. That kinda **** is rife.

Fireball07

Fwiw, there is precedent for Cork-Limerick games being moved while a stadium is being done up.

At 43,500; there'd be no problem. 40,000 would be a sell-out. But if it's 30,000... that's not really big enough to hold a Munster final.

The last time a Munster final involving Limerick had a capacity below 40k was 1974. And it's very very rare that there's a crowd less than 30k at a Munster final.

We played Cork in Thurles in 2000, then played down in Cork in 2001. Every game in Munster was played in Cork in 2001 actually.



I just want a ticket tbh.

Diamond3

Cannot wait for this game, hopefully will be a great encounter, there will be an awful scramble for tickets if game is on in Cork. Hopefully same result again this year

paddy no 11

Hope its in PUC but if they let 43k in there officially im bring the wire cutters in with me, place is an accident waiting to happen, the development cant come quick enough. The wraparound terraces are fantastic though.

rebel girl 15

Safety officer is doing a check today to see the official capacity

Fireball07

40k would be good... it is a bit of a shíthole, but the terraces are decent.

rebs23

The ground itself is in a bad way but (hopefully) will be redeveloped if it gets through An Bord Pleannala. Its Cork fans last chance to say goodbye to the stadium and our last chance for a big game there. The capacity of 40k is reasonable given that it has had 65k at games in the past there and once it is managed correctly it will be fine.
I have very fond memories of the place. At a time when there was no terrace culture in the GAA, Cork had a support like no other in the country (with the exception of the Dubs)
The City End and then the Blackrock End were covered in red and white with the booth boys and skinheads, the flags from all over the world once they had a bit of red in it were waved, we sung chants and made it a very intimidating place for the visitors. We went on tours all over Munster bringing our Kop with us to the town ends of Killarney and Thurles and we made our presence felt but PUC was home and the City End was ours (until they bloody well moved us to the Blackrock End).
There was the piper at the back of the terrace leading us the "boys of fairhill", the old fella with the huge flag which looked like a Polish flag, there were the invasions of the scoreboard, the climbing onto the roof above the stand, the getting in for free squeezing through the gaps in the wall above the toilets, the long queues into terrace and the pitch invasions before the game had even begun.

For some reason though there seems to be a campaign initiated by the Limerick County board not to have the game played in PUC, the OP in this thread for instance is very similar to an article in the Limerick Leader, all of it effectively wanting the game played elsewhere and making very presumptuous statements about the potential capacity. Cork fans I suppose are used to travelling to Killarney, Thurles, Corke Park mainly. We are used to the congestion, the crushes, the traffic, the cost. TBH I am sick of travelling supporting Cork and this is one chance for us this year not to travel to watch Cork Hurlers play.
Hopefully the battered old stadium gets redeveloped but leave us have our opportunity to say goodbye to the old PUC.
Come on Limerick, just get on with it.

Browney7

rebs23 wrote: »

The ground itself is in a bad way but (hopefully) will be redeveloped if it gets through An Bord Pleannala. Its Cork fans last chance to say goodbye to the stadium and our last chance for a big game there. The capacity of 40k is reasonable given that it has had 65k at games in the past there and once it is managed correctly it will be fine.
I have very fond memories of the place. At a time when there was no terrace culture in the GAA, Cork had a support like no other in the country (with the exception of the Dubs)
The City End and then the Blackrock End were covered in red and white with the booth boys and skinheads, the flags from all over the world once they had a bit of red in it were waved, we sung chants and made it a very intimidating place for the visitors. We went on tours all over Munster bringing our Kop with us to the town ends of Killarney and Thurles and we made our presence felt but PUC was home and the City End was ours (until they bloody well moved us to the Blackrock End).
There was the piper at the back of the terrace leading us the "boys of fairhill", the old fella with the huge flag which looked like a Polish flag, there were the invasions of the scoreboard, the climbing onto the roof above the stand, the getting in for free squeezing through the gaps in the wall above the toilets, the long queues into terrace and the pitch invasions before the game had even begun.

For some reason though there seems to be a campaign initiated by the Limerick County board not to have the game played in PUC, the OP in this thread for instance is very similar to an article in the Limerick Leader, all of it effectively wanting the game played elsewhere and making very presumptuous statements about the potential capacity. Cork fans I suppose are used to travelling to Killarney, Thurles, Corke Park mainly. We are used to the congestion, the crushes, the traffic, the cost. TBH I am sick of travelling supporting Cork and this is one chance for us this year not to travel to watch Cork Hurlers play.
Hopefully the battered old stadium gets redeveloped but leave us have our opportunity to say goodbye to the old PUC.
Come on Limerick, just get on with it.

The waxing lyrical about times past and crowded terraces and crowds spilling onto fields before the game is all well and good but if the safety officer only allows a capacity of 34000 the Munster council have a decision to make. If health and safety allow 40,000 the game will realistically be in Cork. Times have changed since the 70s 80s etc with Insurance, health and safety and Fire regulations

Rightwing

Browney7 wrote: »

The waxing lyrical about times past and crowded terraces and crowds spilling onto fields before the game is all well and good but if the safety officer only allows a capacity of 34000 the Munster council have a decision to make. If health and safety allow 40,000 the game will realistically be in Cork. Times have changed since the 70s 80s etc with Insurance, health and safety and Fire regulations

Indeed, we've to put the nostalgia away.

I'm Limerick, and I want this game played in Cork, but not at 30,000.

rebs23

So you want the game played in Cork but only if the capacity is 40k. So for 6k less of a capacity you would prefer to move it despite the arrangements, despite the fact it is Cork fans last chance to say goodbye to the stadium, despite the fact that it is hopefully (if we win) the only chance for Corks well travelled supporters to see the Hurlers play at home, etc.
It is very important for us that it is played in PUC and it seems from the tone of the comments here and elsewhere from Limerick very important for you to play the game elsewhere and create as many issues as possible to stop the game being played in PUC. Why raise it at all? Why did the Limerick County board come out with the comments it did? It will be played in PUC, just get on with it.

Rightwing

rebs23 wrote: »

So you want the game played in Cork but only if the capacity is 40k. So for 6k less of a capacity you would prefer to move it despite the arrangements, despite the fact it is Cork fans last chance to say goodbye to the stadium, despite the fact that it is hopefully (if we win) the only chance for Corks well travelled supporters to see the Hurlers play at home, etc.
It is very important for us that it is played in PUC and it seems from the tone of the comments here and elsewhere from Limerick very important for you to play the game elsewhere and create as many issues as possible to stop the game being played in PUC. Why raise it at all? Why did the Limerick County board come out with the comments it did? It will be played in PUC, just get on with it.

I think it's important for Cork to win a munster. Where it is played doesn't really matter. If the ground is up to scratch, bring it on. If not, let's not worry.

rebs23

Rightwing wrote: »

I think it's important for Cork to win a munster. Where it is played doesn't really matter. If the ground is up to scratch, bring it on. If not, let's not worry.

I think you're missing the point. Where it is played matters.

Orizio

Any info on Micheal Cahalane btw?