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Having Completed Your Leaving Cert What Advice Would You Give To Those Who Haven't?

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  • 15-06-2014 11:55am
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    Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭


    So the Leaving Certificate is nearly over.

    There's been tears, stress and funny moments!

    Having climbed this treacherous mountain what advice would you give to incoming fifth and sixth years?

    My advice:
    -Make notes every night as part of your homework which sum up what you did each day in each class.
    -Learn definitions as soon as you cover them.
    -Be prepared to get a little selfish this year.

    So what would your piece or pieces of advice be? I know that if I were about to enter into my Leaving Certificate years I'd want some valuable insight from those who have done it :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭DublinArnie


    plmko wrote: »
    So the Leaving Certificate is nearly over.

    There's been tears, stress and funny moments!

    Having climbed this treacherous mountain what advice would you give to incoming fifth and sixth years?

    My advice:
    -Make notes every night as part of your homework which sum up what you did each day in each class.
    -Learn definitions as soon as you cover them.
    -Be prepared to get a little selfish this year.

    So what would your piece or pieces of advice be? I know that if I were about to enter into my Leaving Certificate years I'd want some valuable insight from those who have done it :D

    Looks like this thread will be helpful for me, thanks. :) good luck with the results in August!


  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭plmko


    Looks like this thread will be helpful for me, thanks. :) good luck with the results in August!

    Thankyou very much!


  • Registered Users Posts: 562 ✭✭✭jwcurtin


    I personally didn't do this, but in hindsight I really should have: My best friend had 2 note books, important phrases, grammar etc for French in one and another for English quotes, key definitions. She was very organised and it will stand to her.

    Oh and definitely learn you quotes as you go along. Don't say you'll learn them at the weekend, because you won't, unless you're very disciplined. Avoiding procrastination is key!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭Huell


    Avoid hanging out with people who will drag your results down, i see people who got a few A's in the junior now they are in with the wrong crowd and will be lucky to pass most subjects.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Daniel2590


    Start studying early... Even if its 30 mins on a topic each night you have no idea how much easier your life will be at this time :pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Delightfully Bright


    Do 15 minutes more study than you would normally do each night. It won't feel like much when you're doing it but it definitely helps in the long run.


  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭plmko


    Get up early to study at the weekends!


  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭Daithi MacG


    Make sure you get notebooks that have a lot of pages and will last for two years. At the start of fifth year I bought two 80 page A4 notebooks which had a flimsy paper "cover" on them. They started falling apart and by 6th I didn't have many maths notes left from them. You can get 160 page A4 notebooks in easons with plastic luminous covers on them (green, orange pink and yellow I think) and they definitely won't fall apart. Also, have a bookshelf in your room or study room. This wasn't possible for me because mine is a converted attic and there isn't room and my books ended up scattered all over the floor. If I was more disciplined I probably could have found a solution but I'm lazy. But a bookshelf will definitely help keep you organised. I also ended up with loose sheets everywhere, so FOLDERS. Just try to keep all your books and notes in place and you won't waster valuable time looking for them later on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,222 ✭✭✭robman60


    Don't be unrealistic with your ambitions in September. Fortunately I didn't fall into this, but my friend did. Aim to do 2-3 hours of homework or study each night before Christmas, no more. The year is long and it really isn't necessary to do 5 hours a night. Consistency is more important.

    Oh and don't be afraid to take a few days off every month. I mean, keep socialising. Whether this is going to the pub or just chilling out, remember it's an important part of maintaining your well-being.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Swan Curry


    -Your weekends are valuable.Get up early,get some study done,and give yourself time to rest.

    -If you're taking a day off (As you should from time to time),make sure you deserve it.Work harder the day before,it will feel even better.

    -Prepare to be disappointed now and again.You're going to have a lot of tests over the next two years and you're not going to do well in all of them.It's natural,sometimes life just gets in the way.What's important is that you evaluate each test.Find out what you did wrong and how to do it better.Find out what you did well and aim to keep it that way.

    -Up until the very day of your Leaving Cert,don't be afraid to try new things in exams.Every exam up until your Leaving Cert is a chance for you to take a risk.If you have a preprepared answer,change it around a bit.If it works,you'll always remember it,if it doesn't,you've still learned something.

    -DO NOT CHEAT IN YOUR MOCKS.You're only fooling yourself if you do,and you'll have a lot of explaining to do when you get your results and your points have dropped massively.And believe me,they will.

    e:Most of all,do your best.Come out of your last exam sure that you got everything out of those 2 years.Whether it's 625 or just passing all your subjects is irrelevant.If you did your best,no one can judge you.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Every single subject is a two year course. Therefore make sure you work at it for two years.

    Buy packs of flashcards and write definitions etc. on them and drill yourseld regularly.

    Despite my first point, new subjects can be taken up any time in 5th year but you've got to be willing to work hard at them.

    If you feel you don't have six subjects you can rely on, the likes of Business,Economics, Geography, Biology, Chemistry can be learnt with a grinds teacher or by yourself. People have taken these up as late as Christmas of 6th year and got A's.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,495 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Be realistic about your potential. Many people think theyll be the ones to get over 500 points when in reality its only the very top who achieve this, getting over 500 in the leaving is a huge achievement only top 8-9% of the country get over 500. At the start of the year I thought this was me, Im aiming for like 420 points now haha. But yeah just be realistic about your goals were not all extremely smart nor are all of us willing to put in the huge amount of effort needed to get high gradea!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,495 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Every single subject is a two year course. Therefore make sure you work at it for two years.

    Buy packs of flashcards and write definitions etc. on them and drill yourseld regularly.

    Despite my first point, new subjects can be taken up any time in 5th year but you've got to be willing to work hard at them.

    If you feel you don't have six subjects you can rely on, the likes of Business,Economics, Geography, Biology, Chemistry can be learnt with a grinds teacher or by yourself. People have taken these up as late as Christmas of 6th year and got A's.

    As a student who loved and worked hard in both geography and biology over the last two years I think it would be extremely unlikely youll do well in either subject learning them on your own or picking them up late. The courses are just too vast


  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭plmko


    Swan Curry wrote: »

    -DO NOT CHEAT IN YOUR MOCKS.You're only fooling yourself if you do,and you'll have a lot of explaining to do when you get your results and your points have dropped massively.And believe me,they will.

    Wow, so true. Listen to this guy!


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 a little sliceof lemon


    To *all* students (even the really lazy ones) I'd say whats really important is doing everything that is given to you. Every bit of work the teachers tells you to do just do all of it and it'll help you immensely when you go back to study because you'll already know the concepts and just have to learn them.
    And second, like another user said, don't cheat on the mocks, theres no reason why you should. I cheated on my higher history exam and was ****ting a brick the day because I had no idea what level I was at.


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭missguided


    To follow up what everyone has said, definitely don't look at hints/spoilers for the mocks. It will be great at the time doing amazing with one nights study, but when it comes to the real thing it's a different story. Doing okay in the mocks with little study (due to hints!) can lull you into a false sense of 'ah sure it's grand', so really don't do it :P When people said this to me around the time of the mocks I took no notice, really wish i did though..

    As well as this, sort out your study notes early on, it will really benefit you when you're rushing to organise things in May.

    Study for the sraith pictúirs early in the year, even if it is only writing one out a week and learning one picture a day, having some basis before the weeks before the oral will be a great help. I spent the days before mine writing out notes for them, so yeah, learn from my mistakes :L

    Not so much to do with the leaving cert, but try as much as possible to maintain a healthy diet. Easier said than done, but the dreaded sixth year stone creeps up on you very easily..

    For this summer, try to figure out what exactly you want to do. Research courses in universities, IT's, further education and studying abroad. I wish I had applied for UCAS now, but i left it way too late. If you know what you want to pursue though it will be such a weight lifted off your shoulders:)

    Basically, learn from my mistakes :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 Pidge96


    Don't compare how you're doing to how others are doing it'll only make you upset and destroy morale. If you're working as hard as you can then you'll do your best.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    If you want to work hard and do well, forget what others say. It's not cool to do no work and fail tests.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 728 ✭✭✭9bred4


    It is what you make of it. Work hard, expect results. Sit and pass time, expect what's coming to you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭plmko


    missguided wrote: »
    To follow up what everyone has said, definitely don't look at hints/spoilers for the mocks. It will be great at the time doing amazing with one nights study, but when it comes to the real thing it's a different story. Doing okay in the mocks with little study (due to hints!) can lull you into a false sense of 'ah sure it's grand', so really don't do it :P When people said this to me around the time of the mocks I took no notice, really wish i did though..

    As well as this, sort out your study notes early on, it will really benefit you when you're rushing to organise things in May.

    Study for the sraith pictúirs early in the year, even if it is only writing one out a week and learning one picture a day, having some basis before the weeks before the oral will be a great help. I spent the days before mine writing out notes for them, so yeah, learn from my mistakes :L

    Not so much to do with the leaving cert, but try as much as possible to maintain a healthy diet. Easier said than done, but the dreaded sixth year stone creeps up on you very easily..

    For this summer, try to figure out what exactly you want to do. Research courses in universities, IT's, further education and studying abroad. I wish I had applied for UCAS now, but i left it way too late. If you know what you want to pursue though it will be such a weight lifted off your shoulders:)

    Basically, learn from my mistakes :D

    So so true! Wish I applied for UCAS also and omg THAT SIXTH YEAR STONE!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,870 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Don't completely take a year out from your life. Yes you have to study throughout the year but I've seen people shut themselves away for the year and get 100+ more points than they required for their course. You are only young once, make sure you enjoy it as well.

    As course choices can still be changed, pick in order of preference! Words can't stress the importance of this. If your second choice is probably 100 points more than your first than so what, you probably won't end up in that course but that isn't the point. If you are on track for 600 points and your passion is history don't listen to all the idiots telling you to do medicine. Do the top history course you can get into (or maths, economics, German, chemistry...). Picking a course that is high points over a course you want to do is the dumbest thing you can do right now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Don't completely take a year out from your life. Yes you have to study throughout the year but I've seen people shut themselves away for the year and get 100+ more points than they required for their course. You are only young once, make sure you enjoy it as well.

    That's not a good attitude to have to be honest..Why shouldn't people try to maximise their points as best they can? As for getting over the points required for a course, if the points are 450 that means that was the points of the lowest candidate offered the course. Everyone else got way above that so you should aim to maximise your points to make sure you get in, not get around 450 and leave yourself open to disappointment.

    I've done the LC twice now and believe me, if you make any comment to a student about the amount of studying they are doing be it too little or too much, it only adds to the stress and pressure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,870 ✭✭✭Christy42


    thelad95 wrote: »
    That's not a good attitude to have to be honest..Why shouldn't people try to maximise their points as best they can? As for getting over the points required for a course, if the points are 450 that means that was the points of the lowest candidate offered the course. Everyone else got way above that so you should aim to maximise your points to make sure you get in, not get around 450 and leave yourself open to disappointment.

    I've done the LC twice now and believe me, if you make any comment to a student about the amount of studying they are doing be it too little or too much, it only adds to the stress and pressure.

    All the replies I have seen thus far have been about good times to study. When they go to college next year they will hear the same thing again. Then some may end in a job with long hours to save up money and then their youth has been spent. That is what I always hated, that people were always saying that this was the year to knuckle down and get the work done. I started to wonder when it will end that this is the year you put the work in. I feel that it should be pointed out that they should feel entitled to relax every so often. The LC isn't the end all and the be all. Yes it is important to get into a course you want to do but keep it in context that a bad LC won't destroy their lives either.

    I am not advocating aiming for the minimum required as you will probably miss and you aren't told the minimum beforehand anyway. It is all about balance but unfortunately that is a lot easier for me to talk about than to do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 574 ✭✭✭a0ifee


    don't be like me and start learnng your sraith pictuirs two weeks before the exam :pac: I'll never forget that stress

    ignore what everyone else is doing seriously, it'll only make you freak out. Just work to the best of your ability


    CHECK YOUR COURSE ENTRY REQUIREMENTS

    practise exam papers like nothing else especially for exams with short questions I feel

    make a study timetable for like a week or two ahead it'll be so benefital because you won't feel as aimless in your study

    RELAX. it's a hard two years and you need time for yourself. Don't burn yourself out before the exams. Keep your healthy mental state in mind


  • Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭Nicke011


    Try reading lessons before you go into the class. For subjects such as Physics, Chemistry, Biology, History, Geography etc.
    Take a quick read, even if you don't understand it, it's ok. If you listen your teacher in class everything will get into place! And you're on the top. By doing only these two you're have most of the work done for those subjects. And if you do homework, you'll have 80% work done for the subject.
    Stay up with this strategy and you'll have no problems. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,495 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Try your hardest to do well in all your practicals and orals in the months leading up to the exams. Like geography and german didnt go all that well for me, but I did a great geography project (20%) and german oral (25%) so Im really not worried because I have those two nice cushions to fall back on !


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭2thousand14


    FLASH CARDS!!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭Daithi MacG


    I'd also recommend knowing the layouts of each exam you have to do inside out. For some subjects like Languages and Geography and maybe History it might be worth your while deciding in what order you're going to answer questions. If you have a mindset like that before you go into the exam and you know the timing for each exam it will help A LOT. Whatever you do, don't be reading the instructions on the front page of the exam paper the morning of the exam, you'll probably misread something. So know the exam layouts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭nailforhammer


    Study marking schemes religiously! This obviously doesn't work for English, Irish or most language based subjects. However you'll soon figure out the ones it does work for. Biology and business especially. They have the exact answers to the questions in the marking scheme. Learn these off and you can be guaranteed to do well. It also helps you understand how many points to give and know how to pick up marks.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 574 ✭✭✭a0ifee


    Study marking schemes religiously! This obviously doesn't work for English, Irish or most language based subjects. However you'll soon figure out the ones it does work for. Biology and business especially. They have the exact answers to the questions in the marking scheme. Learn these off and you can be guaranteed to do well. It also helps you understand how many points to give and know how to pick up marks.

    i'll second this for economics!!! the marking schemes are great for it


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