On Campus in second year

The green and red

Can any of you kind folks enlighten me as to the allocation of places on campus for non first years? I remember thinking that first years got a very large preference.

pacni

www. ucd .ie / residences / how-to-book-a-room / allocation-policy /

There are 275 places for continuing years that are not in their final year.

I'm a new user so it's not letting me post the link properly.

The green and red

Much obliged Pacni, Boards never fails to throw up useful info

Maldesu

The green and red wrote: »

Much obliged Pacni, Boards never fails to throw up useful info

Check your student mail too. There was an email sent yesterday about a new process for continuing students.

pancake_tuesday

Any final years/postgrads get any offers? Afraid to leave the house in case I get an email!

pacni

pancake_tuesday wrote: »

Any final years/postgrads get any offers? Afraid to leave the house in case I get an email!

Well you're not going to be leaving the house until next Wednesday if you do that!

The emails won't be processed until next Wednesday so you will not know your place on the waiting list until then. Offers will then be sent out from 16.00 onwards that afternoon.

pancake_tuesday

pacni wrote: »

Well you're not going to be leaving the house until next Wednesday if you do that!

The emails won't be processed until next Wednesday so you will not know your place on the waiting list until then. Offers will then be sent out from 16.00 onwards that afternoon.

Haha, cheers! I must've misread it and thought it was today at four.

Y2JB

All we had to do was send our student number to the email address right? I got that automated response but I only sent mine at 9:35 because I was working late and slept my alarm. I hope I get something

The green and red

I seem to have been placed on the senior list instead of continuing years list, Im number 132 so hopefully the list mix up wont fcuk things up

Bacon and Cabbage

Anyone know what the story with today's offers is?
Sisweb says "Offers for Accommodation have been temporarily suspended " atm

Caireann

I was due an offer tomorrow so I emailed to ask if I now have to take work off on Monday. I got back this reply 'We have temporarily suspended offers for accommodation and you will not be able to view your position on the waiting list. Please continue to monitor our website for updated information.' Which is basically no help. I'm really worried about this. Did anybody in the range of 50-100 get an offer today?

Bacon and Cabbage

I was 88 yesterday, then 38 after they sent out yesterday's offers and I haven't got an offer today

hyper_on_water

I haven't heard anything... can't even get through on the phone... I was 281, then down to 231 (in theory), so I'm just outside the allocation and keeping my fingers crossed.

Caireann

Eugh like how hard is it to get it right

DaisyFay

Its always been bad but this year is a way bigger mess than previous years. I know of people who didn't even apply that got a place on the waiting list.....

hyper_on_water

Hopefully that's what they're editing out of the system right now. That's so unfair if that has happened.

AdamH95

Between 50-100, didn't get an offer. Emailed Residences told me they wouldn't be sending out emails today.

EDIT : So unless I'm mistaken it looks liker hyper_on_water has the same number on the waiting list as one of my friends. So there's duplicates of numbers I guess!

Caireann

AdamH95 wrote: »

Between 50-100, didn't get an offer. Emailed Residences told me they wouldn't be sending out emails today.

EDIT : So unless I'm mistaken it looks liker hyper_on_water has the same number on the waiting list as one of my friends. So there's duplicates of numbers I guess!

I hope everything is back on track tomorrow. They should really update their site more with this kind of information. If I thought I was getting an offer today and they only said temporarily suspended I would keep checking all day.

Are you sure your friend and hyper_on_water are on the same list? Both continuing undergrads?

AdamH95

I PM'ed her and yeah, she's a continuing undergraduate.

DaisyFay

Two people I know have the same number as well theres probably loads of that after happening.

hyper_on_water

*words directed at UCD Res that would swiftly have me banned from this forum*

Its just a fiasco. I don't know what type of system would work at all.

En

Yeah it's a total mess... Some girl I bumped into over the weekend had the EXACT same number on the waiting list as someone in Galway.

A friend rang up residences, they said this was due to some people putting in other people's student numbers to make sure less legitimate people were on the waiting list so they'd be prioritized..

Bacon and Cabbage

En wrote: »

some people putting in other people's student numbers to make sure less legitimate people were on the waiting list so they'd be prioritized..

That's pretty clever actually

Caireann

Wait they put multiple student numbers in one email or sent out multiple emails?

En

Bacon and Cabbage wrote: »

That's pretty clever actually

It's less clever of them and more dumb of the people in charge of residences.

I mean what kind of a genius draws up a system whereby you can't verify whether someone who sends an email actually corresponds to the student number they've entered?


Allowing any non @ucd.ie emails in the first place is the stupidest thing i've heard of [EDIT: Foreign postgraduates weren't given access to @ucd.ie email addresses, so they had to allow for non ucd.ie emails]- there are plenty of anonymous throwaway email providers (guerillamail, sharklazers, for example) that would be perfect for trolling the system and entering a list of random student numbers into the waiting list - and there would be no way of figuring out who did it.

And that's just the people with malicious intent.. You could have someone technologically illiterate or just some clutz who puts in the wrong student number in the subject field BY ACCIDENT (we all know someone like that), resulting in the same problems that would be caused by those who were purposefully obstructing the system, albeit maybe to a lesser degree.

No verification required whatsoever.

All fault lies with UCD - anyone could have seen this coming, much more so someone who's paid annually to construct these systems in the first place. Server load issues like the last couple of years is acceptable - it's beyond the control of some tech administrator - but something as silly as allowing the sending infinite application emails at some fixed time in the morning with no way of knowing whether the person who sent them was the person who was applying is extremely dumb, and even worse, obviously exploitable.

konks

En wrote: »

It's less clever of them and more dumb of the people in charge of residences.

I mean what kind of a genius draws up a system whereby you can't verify whether someone who sends an email actually corresponds to the student number they've entered?

Allowing any non @ucd.ie emails in the first place is the stupidest thing i've heard of - there are plenty of anonymous throwaway email providers (guerillamail, sharklazers, for example) that would be perfect for trolling the system and entering a list of random student numbers into the waiting list - and there would be no way of figuring out who did it.

And that's just the people with malicious intent.. You could have someone technologically illiterate or just some clutz who puts in the wrong student number in the subject field BY ACCIDENT (we all know someone like that), resulting in the same problems that would be caused by those who were purposefully obstructing the system, albeit maybe to a lesser degree.

All fault lies with UCD - anyone could have seen this coming, much more so someone who's paid annually to construct these systems in the first place. Server load issues like the last couple of years is acceptable - it's beyond the control of some tech administrator - but something as silly as allowing the sending infinite application emails at some fixed time in the morning with no way of knowing whether the person who sent them was the person who was applying is extremely dumb, and even worse, obviously exploitable.

I'm a postgrade coming over from the US for this coming year and they aren't giving us access to @ucd.ie addresses till august so based on this system they had to allow non for some of us.

En

konks wrote: »

I'm a postgrade coming over from the US for this coming year and they aren't giving us access to @ucd.ie addresses till august so based on this system they had to allow non for some of us.

That sounds reasonable - did they prompt you to verify who you were at any point during the accommodation application ?

konks

En wrote: »

That sounds reasonable - did they prompt you to verify who you were at any point during the accommodation application ?

Yes, it had to match the email in my sisweb account.

konks

Wonderful.

Due to technical issues experienced with the University Service Provider we have temporarily suspended offers to Continuing and Senior categories until the issue is resolved.

IT services are working to rectify the issues and this may impact on the wait lists currently in place.

We apologise for any inconvenience and will communicate directly with students on the waitlist by email over the coming days to give further feedback.

We will be posting an update on this website by 12 noon on Wednesday the 25th June 2014

The green and red

The process of determining the students order on the waiting list did not correspond with the information on the email. A friend and I applied at the exact same time (09:00:03) however I placed at 132 and she placed at 766! On calling the office she was told that the student numbers were pulled at random from the inbox as they came in rather than verifying the time of sending with Google!

We are expected to shell out so much for this sh1te service from Res year after year!

DaisyFay

I think google can only timestamp them to sixtieths of a second which isn't much good given the volume of emails that they'd get even in the 1st minute. Mine was received at 9:00:01, literally as close to 9:00 as possible and I was over 300 on the list yesterday.

The green and red

DaisyFay wrote: »

I think google can only timestamp them to sixtieths of a second which isn't much good given the volume of emails that they'd get even in the 1st minute. Mine was received at 9:00:01, literally as close to 9:00 as possible and I was over 300 on the list yesterday.

The evidence would suggest that they completely ignored these time stamps

Caireann

DaisyFay wrote: »

I think google can only timestamp them to sixtieths of a second which isn't much good given the volume of emails that they'd get even in the 1st minute. Mine was received at 9:00:01, literally as close to 9:00 as possible and I was over 300 on the list yesterday.

How do you find out what time they were received at?

DaisyFay

You open the email that you sent and on the right of the screen, to the right of the reply arrow, is a down arrow. Click this, and click 'show original', which shows all the details of the email.

Actually I rang the office there and they said that no one there has any idea whats happening either. They should update the information next Wed but they don't know what changes they're making. They don't know if the places currently on the waiting list still stand or if numbers will be reallocated.

GoldFour4

I'm in the postgrad and final years category so slightly more places available but I'm truly amazed at how much they've managed to screw this up. The previous system, while not perfect, at least allowed us to find out our position straight away. Now I'm left wondering whether I'll be bumped out of the top 475 or so. My email was received at 9:00:02. Not knowing until Wednesday is costing people a valuable few days of potential house hunting time.

On top of that, this new system comes alongside another fairly sizable increase in fees for accommodation yet it completely fails. Res has to sort it's act out.

hyper_on_water

Awh, Res finally thought to send us an email. How considerate of them.

Fiach M

I rang res in the past half hour, my email was 9:00:07, and i was 449 on wednesday, i thought with all this kerfuffle there could have been a mistake, but the guy said that it was probably an accurate number. he said they got thousands of emails in the first few seconds and that demand for campus accomodation had rocketed

F7Z

My timestamp is 9:00:00 EXACTLY (don't ask how) and I got 550 or so on the wait list. Was depressed for a few days there until I heard they were rechecking the rankings. Another colossal cock up, last year it's "wait list will be opened at any time this morning" leaving thousands sitting at their computer all day (it ended up opening at a completely random 11:13 am IIRC) and now this. Maybe this whole "first come first serve" stance needs to be revised. Anyway does anyone know if the first offers sent out (that have had their deposit paid) will be cancelled? It would be a bit unfair if those rooms were gone now but then again this is UCD residences and here I am talking about fairness... random come random serve with needless stress for everyone in between

Caireann

There's some sour grapes. I didn't get an offer on day one but I still think it'd be unfair if people who have paid their deposits and have forgotten about the whole thing were suddenly told they've lost their rooms. As far as I know they don't know anything about our situation, they didn't receive the update email.

konks

We continue to work with IT Services to rectify the technical issues that affect Senior and Continuing students. We will not be making further offers until this process has been completed. This may impact on the wait lists currently in place.

We apologise for any continued inconvenience and will communicate directly with students on the waitlist by email over the coming days to give further feedback.

We will be posting an update on this website by 12 noon on Wednesday the 2nd July 2014.

If you have any queries please do not hesitate to contact us


So another week of waiting with no real update...

Bacon and Cabbage

Where did ya see that?

konks

On the residences site.

Bacon and Cabbage

Whereabouts? I'm on the site and don't see any update

Tara_Rxxx

This is absolute balls. Nearly better off looking for off campus and having it sorted than waiting around for Ucd to get their **** together 👿

GoldFour4

Mine still says the 25th of June anyway.

conroyxoxo

Another week of paranoia and fear that I'll be homeless so..

Scooples

The green and red wrote: »

I seem to have been placed on the senior list instead of continuing years list, Im number 132 so hopefully the list mix up wont fcuk things up

Same thing here, my friend rang and apparently if you're in second year Arts then you're classed as a senior! Probably because it counts for 50%.

Just checked my email and my email was received 09.00.03 and I originally got 490, so no idea what the story is at all.

Bacon and Cabbage

Any word out of these clowns no?

Fiach M

not even getting an answer on the phone...

konks

Aaaand nothing still. this is ridiculous.

conroyxoxo

I emailed res there and got this response:
'Dear Student,

Apologies for the delay with the update.

We do wish to have the update on-line at some point today.

It can take some time for our website to receive any updates to its content.

We will not be sending any offers out today in order to give notice of the resumption of offers.

The update today will simply be an information update.

Kind regards,

UCD Residences'