Cannabis Lowers Fertility so says the Examiner

iamanengine

http://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/healthandlife/cannabis-lowers-fertility-by-shrinking-sperm-271131.html

Anyone reckon there is much truth to this?

The Pheasant2

Not sure, but there seems to be a renewed crusade against cannabis coming from both government and media in the last couple of months

Hmmmm. Isn't cannabis only smoked by unemployed wasters? And aren't unemployed wasters the ones with millions of kids so they can get all their free houses? Doesn't add up.

Alf. A. Male

Deleted User wrote: »

Hmmmm. Isn't cannabis only smoked by unemployed wasters? And aren't unemployed wasters the ones with millions of kids so they can get all their free houses? Doesn't add up.

Nope, that's the effects of heroin you're seeing. Female addicts ovulate on an accelerated cycle, 14 days, so they're twice as fertile, hence all those kids.

maguic24

The Pheasant2 wrote: »

Not sure, but there seems to be a renewed crusade against cannabis coming from both government and media in the last couple of months

I think it's because we sent Ming to Europe. :pac:

On a serious note, whoop-di-****ing-do. Too much sugar can give you diabetes, smoking can lead to cancer....we're still mad at it. There's definitely a lot more cannabis scare-mongering going on lately for whatever reason.

wazky

Its illegal anyway so any law abiding citizens shouldn't worry about it.

paulbok

Stoned stones?

Karl Stein

In Holland they give out free joints to the kids in school to keep them quiet but you don't hear the Examiner complain about that.

Amirani

wazky wrote: »

Its illegal anyway so any law abiding citizens shouldn't worry about it.

I'd say there's a fair few boardsies living in Colorado, Washington and err Uruguay.

wazky

Diego Simeone wrote: »

I'd say there's a fair few boardsies living in Colorado, Washington and err Uruguay.

Oh no doubt, and the rest have "medicinal" reasons....

MagicMarker

iamanengine wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/healthandlife/cannabis-lowers-fertility-by-shrinking-sperm-271131.html

Anyone reckon there is much truth to this?

Good, my sperm's too big anyway.

foxtrot101

:eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbjHOBJzhb0

Lenin Skynard

The spermies are too busy laid out on the spermy couch eating goodfellas pizza and watching episodes of Dexter's Lab on the cartoon network. Who needs babies when you have all that.

iamanengine

It seems a bit mental, they're basically saying if you smoke cannibas you can't have kids. Pfffft

Lenin Skynard

Diego Simeone wrote: »

I'd say there's a fair few boardsies living in Colorado, Washington and err Uruguay.

Don't forget the fairly large proportion of boards users who don't abide by this particular law.

UCDVet

Unless it's a permanent side-effect; most users would welcome a lowered fertility rate....

Checks article....

The take-home message is, if you’re a habitual cannabis user, stop, and you need to stop for at least three months

Hahaha - please. I wish EVERYONE had to stop doing something for three months before they could reproduce. We'd all be better off without accidental parents.

cerastes

The Pheasant2 wrote: »

Not sure, but there seems to be a renewed crusade against cannabis coming from both government and media in the last couple of months

Maybe its to appear to be hard on drugs? but doing damn all about it
Are extra shipments of heroin are turning up from Afghanistan?
Id be happier if they tackled the harder drugs and open dealing and the drug barons, and start at that end, heroin and other drugs.

Temptamperu

iamanengine wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/healthandlife/cannabis-lowers-fertility-by-shrinking-sperm-271131.html

Anyone reckon there is much truth to this?

Considering the birth-rate of dublin (especially the council estates) I would say no weed does not lower fertility.

In-fact most of the symptoms the anti-drug crowd espouse are all just lies. It impacts mental health when most psychologists dont actually know what is causing psychosis or schizophrenia. Even though cases drop while weed smokers go up.

rubadub

iamanengine wrote: »

It seems a bit mental, they're basically saying if you smoke cannibas you can't have kids.

:eek: Dunno what you read. It did not say it renders you steriles, it said it reduces fertility, so can tight jeans...

steddyeddy

The Pheasant2 wrote: »

Not sure, but there seems to be a renewed crusade against cannabis coming from both government and media in the last couple of months

Scientific investigation that produces unbiased evidence (for or against something) isn't a crusade.

steddyeddy

Temptamperu wrote: »

Considering the birth-rate of dublin (especially the council estates) I would say no weed does not lower fertility.

In-fact most of the symptoms the anti-drug crowd espouse are all just lies. It impacts mental health when most psychologists dont actually know what is causing psychosis or schizophrenia. Even though cases drop while weed smokers go up.

I go to a college full of relatively well of people and based on that I can say drug use is not confined to a lower economic class.

Temptamperu

steddyeddy wrote: »

I go to a college full of relatively well of people and based on that I can say drug use is not confined to a lower economic class.

Yes everyone from all types smoke weed. I think if it decreases fertility the government should give it to 16 year-olds so we don't have teen pregnancy. But as this report is full of shít that will never work.

Tarzana

steddyeddy wrote: »

I go to a college full of relatively well of people and based on that I can say drug use is not confined to a lower economic class.

You go to college? You never mentioned that before! :pac:

Who ever thought cannabis use was a lower socio-economic group thing anyway?

dj jarvis

i must tell my kids

OneEightSeven

Temptamperu wrote: »

Yes everyone from all types smoke weed. I think if it decreases fertility the government should give it to 16 year-olds so we don't have teen pregnancy. But as this report is full of shít that will never work.

I would be more concerned about those under 16 years old getting pregnant.

Wompa1

seenitall wrote: »

(... she'll be 8 in a few weeks! Where did the time go??)

Purple Haze?

Temptamperu

OneEightSeven wrote: »

I would be more concerned about those under 16 years old getting pregnant.

So would I, next to that weed looks like a nobel laureate.

FISMA

iamanengine wrote: »

Anyone reckon there is much truth to this?

You sound doubtful.

Doesn't anyone remember the warning labels that stated "smoking damages the sperm" on cigarettes?

Do you doubt there is a causative relationship between smoking tobacco and decreased sperm count?

Probabilistically speaking, I would say smoking cannabis has a similar effect on sperm as tobacco.

Temptamperu

FISMA wrote: »

You sound doubtful.

Doesn't anyone remember the warning labels that stated "smoking damages the sperm" on cigarettes?

Do you doubt there is a causative relationship between smoking tobacco and decreased sperm count?

Probabilistically speaking, I would say smoking cannabis has a similar effect on sperm as tobacco.

I used to smoke tobacco but i still smoke a bit of weed and i have noticed i am not out of breath so quick as when I smoked. I know its not definitive or anything but you dont get hooked (addicted personalities aside) so your not smoking 20 joints a day like you would tobacco.
While it still smoking its not as damaging as your not smoking as much.

uch

Never affected me, I've smoked Green and brown most of my life, and had two wonderful kids, had to have a vasectomy because my wife had problems that meant if she got pregnant again it might kill her, feckin vasectomy didn't work, apparently I have superGiz that found a new way of getting out, so she had to have tubes tied. Don't believe everything you see printed in a paper.

lazygal

OneEightSeven wrote: »

I would be more concerned about those under 16 years old getting pregnant.

The teenage pregnancy rate has lowered significantly in recent years.


If you're having any difficulties conceiving lifestyle factors will be checked first and top of the list are smoking weed or tobacco, alcohol and diet.

El Weirdo

Hmmm. I'm not sure if I think this is a good thing or not.

On one hand, 3 of the buggers running around, and getting all up in my grill when I'm getting my smoke on, is enough.

On the other hand, the extra children's allowance payment would really help to pay for all the weed I smoke.

Freddie Dodge

Natural selection. Less stoners. Good thing.

lazygal

Freddie Dodge wrote: »

Natural selection. Less stoners. Good thing.

Are you stoned? Fewer stoners, you mean. Tsk.

Jezek

Temptamperu wrote: »

Considering the birth-rate of dublin (especially the council estates) I would say no weed does not lower fertility.

In-fact most of the symptoms the anti-drug crowd espouse are all just lies. It impacts mental health when most psychologists dont actually know what is causing psychosis or schizophrenia. Even though cases drop while weed smokers go up.

Tell us more about how cannabis and psychosis are not related...I'm all ears.

keeponhurling

Karl Stein wrote: »

In Holland they give out free joints to the kids in school to keep them quiet but you don't hear the Examiner complain about that.

Examiner is an Irish newspaper so maybe don't need to take a view in this ?

Anyways it's hardly news, fags, alcohol, hash, poor diet etc. all have a negative effect on sperm and other.

Doesn't mean you can't have kids even with these, just all things being equal they don't help

Temptamperu

Jezek wrote: »

Tell us more about how cannabis and psychosis are not related...I'm all ears.

Because cases of psychosis have gone down since the 90's while use of weed has gone up and according to doctors on the no side has stronger levels of THC, what does that tell you?

uch

keeponhurling wrote: »

Examiner is an Irish newspaper so maybe don't need to take a view in this ?

Anyways it's hardly news, fags, alcohol, hash, poor diet etc. all have a negative effect on sperm and other.

Doesn't mean you can't have kids even with these,just all things being equal they don't help

Can we throw Garda, sunbeds, tofu, jockey backs, and tight socks into that mix too please

Jezek

Temptamperu wrote: »

Because cases of psychosis have gone down since the 90's while use of weed has gone up and according to doctors on the no side has stronger levels of THC, what does that tell you?

tells me you don't understand the matter

Temptamperu

Jezek wrote: »

tells me you don't understand the matter

enlighten me then don't just say im wrong, prove it!

Lenin Skynard

Freddie Dodge wrote: »

Natural selection. Less stoners. Good thing.

"Natural selection" would result in more stoners. It's irrelevant though because this "natural selection" thing is referring to cavemen and far too simplistic to have any relevance to modern society.

iamanengine

FISMA wrote: »

You sound doubtful.

Doesn't anyone remember the warning labels that stated "smoking damages the sperm" on cigarettes?

Do you doubt there is a causative relationship between smoking tobacco and decreased sperm count?

Probabilistically speaking, I would say smoking cannabis has a similar effect on sperm as tobacco.

Well I am doubtful. I don't think you could compare it to cigarettes, they are made up of completely different substances!

Honestly, I know nothing about the arguments for and against cannabis, the pros and cons, advantages disadvantages etc I just like to smoke the stuff. :pac: So thought I'd ask the beautiful people of AH to see what they thought! General consensus seems to be that it's BS.

--LOS--

Fantastic. Another good reason to use it

DamagedTrax

at 7.2 billion, we're about 3/4 billion too many. bring on the infertility :cool:

bnt

So smoking joints is like wearing tighty whities, then, and in both cases you can reverse the effect if you stop doing it? Stop the Presses! :rolleyes: