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Your experience of induction

  • 04-06-2014 5:40pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭


    I'm currently finishing the book Expecting Better by Emily Oster which has been very informative and debunks a lot of myths while churning out a gazillion statistics so will appeal to any nerds out there!

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Expecting-Better-Conventional-Pregnancy-Wisdom/dp/1409142310

    Her chapter on induction is interesting however and has made me fearful of oxytocin and what it does. The sweep seems far more preferable if an induction is necessary.

    I'd be really keen to hear the good and bad from anyone who has been through an induction and whether it is something to be apprehensive about? I don't want to rely on one woman for information regardless of her accurate statistics etc. The administration of oxytocin doesn't seem as common here as it is in Holles Street but I'm still curious as to how people got on. Thanks in advance ladies.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    Oxytocin on two births out of four... both of those births ended in emergency c sections due to fetal distress, the other two I had natural vaginal births.

    I didn't react well to the oxytocin myself the second time either, my blood pressure plummeted and I got really light headed and woozy.

    Oxytocin will only really work if your cervix is ready to dilate, a bit like a sweep really, a sweep will only work if the cervix is favourable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭kandr10


    I had a great experience regardless of oxytocin. For me having my waters broken caused contractions to come thick and fast so by the time they got the drip up I was well on my way anyway so opted for an epidural. They hooked up the two at the one time as well as insulin as I was diabetic. It took 12 hours from breaking of waters to baby's arrival. It's possible that the oxytocin slowed me down but I was comfortable so didn't mind. Could have just been a slow labour anyway. The baby's heart rate slowed down so when it came time to push they were preparing to use the suction but ended up just getting an episiotomy (also not as bad as I'd been reading about). Again I don't know if it was the oxytocin that caused the slowing heart rate or if it was inevitable. More likely with being induced I suppose.
    I was happy with my experience but then as jan said it depends on the individual. Try to go into labour as open mindedly as you can. Sorry for lengthy response!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Xdancer


    I was induced with oxytocin.
    My waters had broken and they were stained with meconium, so I was given oxytocin to induce the contractions.
    Now I had started to dilate myself (1 cm) so it made the oxytocin more likely to work.
    The contractions started fairly quickly and I was told they were very strong but they didn't feel that bad to me as I was lucky enough to have all my contractions in my back so I think I had it very easy. My daughter didn't really react well to the contractions so I was being monitored constantly. I got to 7cm in a couple of hours and then asked for the epidural (the contractions were manageable for me, but there was no way I was going to give birth without pain relief if I could avoid it).
    The whole thing from being put on the drip to giving birth was about 6 hours.
    I realise I was lucky, but hopefully a positive story will make you feel less anxious.

    In the 70s and 80s my mother was induced 7 times ( once for each pregnancy) using oxytocin due to high blood pressure and found all deliveries fine.

    It's different for everyone but whatever way your labour goes the outcome will definitely be worth it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Thanks a million girls. :) I'm keeping a totally open mind about what may or may not be needed on the day but it's interesting to see what effects and implications it has for labour and the baby's heartbeat etc. I suppose I want to see how different people reacted to it so that I can prepare myself if it is required and out of any other forum I always find dear Boardsies the most honest, no sugar coating! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭RentDayBlues


    Induction on second baby, was in labour anyway but was booked in so went ahead. Contractions every 4 mins and 3-4cms dilated when waters were broken.

    Left for an hour, contractions got stronger but hasn't dilated any further so got oxytocin. Contractions became immense, very strong and right on top of each other, baby born 40 mins later

    Was a nice experience and got my wish of no epidural


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    kandr10 wrote: »
    I had a great experience regardless of oxytocin. For me having my waters broken caused contractions to come thick and fast so by the time they got the drip up I was well on my way anyway so opted for an epidural. They hooked up the two at the one time as well as insulin as I was diabetic. It took 12 hours from breaking of waters to baby's arrival. It's possible that the oxytocin slowed me down but I was comfortable so didn't mind. Could have just been a slow labour anyway. The baby's heart rate slowed down so when it came time to push they were preparing to use the suction but ended up just getting an episiotomy (also not as bad as I'd been reading about). Again I don't know if it was the oxytocin that caused the slowing heart rate or if it was inevitable. More likely with being induced I suppose.
    I was happy with my experience but then as jan said it depends on the individual. Try to go into labour as open mindedly as you can. Sorry for lengthy response!

    Epidural has been known to slow labour and oxytocin speeds it up, they can kind of counteract each other too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭cyning


    I've had two inductions and two vastly different experiences: 5 rounds of gel on my first and 3 days. It wasn't a particularly pleasant experience: no ARM or oxytocin because my waters broke on their own and contractions came thick and fast. I was begging for an epidural got it went from 2-10cm in less than 30 minutes. Then nothing happened for over an hour!

    Second induction I got 1 round of gel at 10ish, went to 2cm over night, waters broke about 720ish used my tens machine, baby was born at 936. I think. Baby brain!

    Anyway my point is that every induction like every birth is vastly vastly different! Sweep did nothing for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Roesy


    I got first round of gels around 6.30pm, second round 6 hours later. Started getting back pain around 1am and the midwife said it was gel pains. Back pain got worse and I got some pethedine, it didn't really do anything for me. Had a bath and a couple of showers and got steadily more grumpy over the rotten 'gel pains'. Consultant arrived in at 7.15 to break my waters and I was on all fours on my bed at nearly 7cm. I was rushed to the delivery suite. OH arrived as I was just about pushing. Baby got into distress and they had to use vacuum to deliver her, which without epidural was not a pleasant experience! She arrived at 8.38am, about 12 hours earlier than we were told to expect her. I had no oxytocin but my experience of induction up until the point of delivery wasn't too bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Excuse my ignorance but is the oxytocin given in gel form or is the gel something else entirely? Some of you are saying you had gel but no oxytocin so I'm a bit confused!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Xdancer


    Merkin wrote: »
    Excuse my ignorance but is the oxytocin given in gel form or is the gel something else entirely? Some of you are saying you had gel but no oxytocin so I'm a bit confused!

    Oxytocin is given as a drip.
    I'm not sure what's in the gel. That seems to be the most common form of induction


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Roesy


    The gel was called prostaglandin I think. As far as I know it's like a hormone that causes the cervix to ripen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭cyning


    Yup induction kind of goes sweep (to see if it gets things moving), prostaglandin gel (to get you to dilate), ARM (to get things going even more), and then oxytocin.

    Gel pains for me were hell on earth on the first. But 5 rounds of gel is practically unheard of and That's what I was given.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Brilliant, thanks for the clarification!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭staticdoor71


    I was given the gel at 7 am. baby was born at 2 am the next day.

    didn't find it too bad to be honest. started getting pains around noon... was checked internally at about 6 pm and was at 3cm.
    went onto delivery ward about 9 pm.
    had tens machine. waters were broken. All clear.
    had pethidine as I was getting very panicky and nervous. Got to 7 cm and had epidural around 11 pm.
    She was born at 2 am on the button

    pregnant again with number 2. and would nearly rather be induced kinda liked the fact that it all happened in a controlled environment. . no rushing to hos of waters breaking in tesco ☺ no complaints here about being induced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭cbyrd


    I've had 2 inductions (almost 3). My first was to speed up labour with my first girl (7 days overdue). I had erratic contrations through the night and it was decided to break my waters at 9am and put on the drip at 10am. My daughter was born at 11.32am :D no hanging around!!

    My 2nd experience was on my 2nd girl (14 days overdue). I was brought in the night before and given gel at 8pm. The gel is used to soften the cervix and can often lead to spontaneous labour if you're overdue. I was to be given another gel at 6am and then put on the drip at 10am. My waters started going at 3am and she was born at 6.03am.

    My (almost) 3rd was my son. I was brought in at 10am to be given gel at 6pm but I was already in early labour when I got there (14 days overdue). It was 2010 and very bad icy weather so was brought in early in the day. My 8pm I was in full flow and he was born at 10.52pm with no indution. My last baby was also spontaneous with my waters going at home.

    The main difference I found between natural and induced was the speed and intensity of the contrations. The baby's heartrate always dips during contraction and what would concern the medics is the time after contraction it takes for it to come back up. My last baby was natural birth but as I was in labour for hours (actually unknown to myself) he was getting distressed and his heartrate was dropping very low, they were getting ready to vacuum him out but I got there myself with 2 huge pushes.

    As was said before, labour with every baby is different. An open mind and a trust between you and your carer is essential. Sometimes doing a lot of reading up before you have a baby can scare the bejaysus out of you. The end result is well worth the effort. Ask lots of questions at your appointment so the confusion is taken out of the whole process. That's what will ease you're mind most if anything goes awry. Sorry for the essay .. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    I was induced on my second baby. Gel only, no oxytocin as things progressed quickly themselves.

    I found it fine... Much faster than my first labour, where i saw three shifts of midwives come and go before it was time to push.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Chattastrophe!


    Merkin wrote: »
    Excuse my ignorance but is the oxytocin given in gel form or is the gel something else entirely? Some of you are saying you had gel but no oxytocin so I'm a bit confused!

    I got it as a drip. At that stage my waters had already broken (on their own) and I'd started to dilate a little. I think the gel is given to get things started off, whereas Oxytocin is given to speed things along.

    I've already posted about my birth here, so I won't go into all the gory details again! :D Basically, to me, it all felt like it was going really well up until I got the Oxytocin. There was some meconium in the waters, but everything looked fine on the trace, and I could feel him moving away, so I really wasn't overly worried about the meconium.

    They gave me Oxytocin mainly because of my high blood pressure, I really didn't think it was necessary just because of that (my blood pressure fluctuates a lot, and I'd had it checked only that morning and it was fine.)

    However I guess I kind of thought, best to leave the decision to the professionals. With the benefit of hindsight, in future, I'd be more likely to go with my own instincts. I think it's important not to underestimate the connection you have with your baby. They are growing inside you. I genuinely think you'd feel it if they were in danger.

    Basically it speeded up things way too much for me. And sent the baby into distress, his heartrate was constantly dropping, it had been fine before. Up until that point in my labour, I was delighted at the fact that my waters had broken naturally at only six days past due date, and the contractions - while painful - were surprisingly manageable. With the Oxytocin, the contractions were far too close together and the pain was just unimaginable. I actually asked to go to the loo at one point - I wasn't allowed, they said I could use a bedpan if necessary - but I didn't even need to go to the loo, I had an idea that I could climb out the third-story window and run away, anything to escape from the pain! :D Labour should not be that way. I genuinely feel - and felt at the time - that I was progressing fine on my own.

    If they have concerns about your wellbeing or that of your baby, there's nothing wrong with asking for extra monitoring. But definitely go with your own instincts. It's brilliant that we have the means available for intervention, when things aren't going well, but just make sure it's necessary first.

    Also keep in mind that pretty much all forms of induction or intervention significantly increase the chances of a C section. Much as I whine about my birth experience (:o) at least it didn't end in a section, and my physical recovery was pretty much immediate. I had no pain in the days afterwards, I think I had one Difene tablet the following day and that was it, I never even needed a Panadol after that. Recovery from a section, from what I've heard, takes a lot longer and I can only imagine how tough it would be while looking after a small baby as well!

    Anyways in my own experience, Oxytocin is evil and I will not be accepting it again in the future. Maybe it just didn't suit my body for some reason. Even bearing in mind what I said above about recovery from a section, I'd actually take that over Oxytocin! I guess it's different for everyone, and I'm sure some people have really positive stories about how it helped them.

    When the time comes, my advice would be to really trust your instincts. Have faith in yourself and in your body. If pain relief or induction or intervention is necessary, it's great that the options are there, however I believe in most cases, intervention should be the exception rather than the rule. I think that sometimes the medical staff just want to get you in and out as quickly as possible - that was my experience anyways - but for you, it's your firstborn. It's a bit of a big deal! You can only have this experience once, and hopefully it'll be a positive experience. If intervention is required, fine, but just be sure at the time that it's medically necessary.

    And have the daddy prepped as well so that he can stand up for your wishes if you're not able to at the time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Wow, thanks all so much for being so open and forthcoming about your experiences! Each birth really is unique isn't it? Tbh I have avoided too much voracious reading while pregnant as I've been extremely chilled throughout and am enjoying every moment so wanted to leave any reading until closer to the time lest I give myself the heebie-jeebies! I've very much been taking each day as it comes and living in the moment rather than stressing or worrying too much about what will happen come delivery day. :)

    I'm keen on knowing more about induction however because Baby Merkin is quite a big boy and the midwife said that standard procedure is induction four days after due date here and they won't go over more than that (if he is going to be a big birth weight) so I suppose it's useful to hear what other people went through. I've got my home visit antenatal day soon with the midwife so it's great to hear a few stories from other Mummas directly before I got through everything with her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭kandr10


    Merkin wrote: »
    Wow, thanks all so much for being so open and forthcoming about your experiences! Each birth really is unique isn't it? Tbh I have avoided too much voracious reading while pregnant as I've been extremely chilled throughout and am enjoying every moment so wanted to leave any reading until closer to the time lest I give myself the heebie-jeebies! I've very much been taking each day as it comes and living in the moment rather than stressing or worrying too much about what will happen come delivery day. :)

    I'm keen on knowing more about induction however because Baby Merkin is quite a big boy and the midwife said that standard procedure is induction four days after due date here and they won't go over more than that (if he is going to be a big birth weight) so I suppose it's useful to hear what other people went through. I've got my home visit antenatal day soon with the midwife so it's great to hear a few stories from other Mummas directly before I got through everything with her.

    That's the best attitude to have. It'll make everything easier. Good to have questions to ask alright and get the official line on things from the midwife. When I was pregnant I forced myself to read the what to expect book. No idea why I didn't enjoy it and I didn't learn anything. I just thought it was what you should do lol :)

    Best of luck with your delivery whatever happens!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Awww thank you so much, that's lovely :) Yes, I believe knowledge is power but you can also go totally overboard as well I think. So I'm just trying to strike a balance between being aware of all my options and what they entail and also sticking my fingers in my ears while singing la-deee-laaa-lee-laaa and convincing myself that it is the stork who will deliver the baby after all......!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Jerrica


    Four days after due date is no time at all, the NICE guidelines say that anything up to 42 weeks is entirely normal. Not trying to throw a spanner in the works Merkin, but if - when the time comes - you do go four days over and everything is normal and happy then there's no reason not to request more time if you want it. There was a big discussion the other day on one of the Facebook groups I'm on about how estimates of size in utero can be so far off, so if they're saying he's big it's not an absolute certainty. If you got to 40+4 and you werent favourable you might be quite happy to wait another day or two (or you might be fed up and want to get going!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Thanks Jerrica, that's just it. I will adopt a wait and see approach and see what feels right at the time. I don't feel in any way coerced and if I wanted to wait I don't think there will be an issue but I will still trust their advice etc as I reach due date. I know it's not an exact science but the midwives, foetal medicine consultant and my obstetrician have all said he's a big boy who loves his grub (he always has a full little tummy at our scans!). I still have another seven weeks left though so it could all even out and he could be an average weight - will just have to wait and see! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭xalot


    Fair play to you on looking into all eventualities! I was convinced I would go early so by the time I got to 2 weeks late it felt like I'd been pregnant for 4 years!

    Had 5, yes 5 sweeps and none of them really worked, but I didn't find them painful at all. Babs did not want to move. I finally started to lose my mucus plug on the day I was brought in to be induced.

    Was brought in for the gel on Sunday night, waters went naturally at 6am the next morning, started clear but became slightly stained as the contractions progressed. I started contracting at 5mins apart and was brought straight to labour ward. Had my tens machine and ball and was happy out, pain was very manageable and was 1cm dilated.

    They wanted to hook me up to oxytocin but as I was hoping for a natural birth I knew that once I took the oxytocin my hopes of that greatly diminished. The consultant agreed to give me a couple of hours and see how I was progressing but broke my hind waters. This made the contractions much more powerful as the water was providing 'padding' apparently! Anyway baby was showing signs of distress and so I had to lie in a specific position on the bed which was incredibly uncomfortable. Lying down is the worst thing to do when a contraction hits. At this point I knew I needed the epidural so as soon as I got that I was hooked up to the oxytocin to speed things along, had my epidural so didn't feel a thing (it's great stuff).

    Anyway, baby was in the wrong position and fetal distress continued so had an emergency section at 4am on the Tuesday morning.

    My advice would be to hold off any interventions if you can as from what I have heard (and experienced) one intervention often leads to the next and that leads to the next etc. But if you do have to have it dont beat yourself up for things not going the way you planned, all that matters is that you and your new arrival are safe and healthy.

    Best of luck with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    OMG xalot, the little one was quite happy in there obviously! Did you have a little boy or girl in the end? I'm sure at two weeks overdue you thought the little one would walk out by themselves! :)

    Would people agree that oxytocin seems to cause such violent/painful contractions that an epidural is invariably needed then? I'm curious about this as I thought an epidural takes some time to actually take effect so would you say it's better to have a prophylactic epidural and then induction if an induction is deemed necessary? Seems like the AMR and the sweep (if the cervix is ready) are a lot more gentle whereas the oxytocin seems to take people by surprise somewhat!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭xalot


    Merkin wrote: »
    OMG xalot, the little one was quite happy in there obviously! Did you have a little boy or girl in the end? I'm sure at two weeks overdue you thought the little one would walk out by themselves! :)

    !

    Yeah, my not so little 9lb 7 baby boy did not want to budge!
    Any of the midwives I spoke to seemed to agree that oxytocin can make it a lot harder to have a natural birth as you can go from very manageable contractions to massive ones without a chance to adapt, it makes sense if you think that the cervix usually dilates slowly and gives your body the ability to deal with each pain level. That's why the tens is so great, you can pump up the level along with your contractions.

    For me the epidural kicked in very fast and they give you a little button to top it up if you feel it wearing off. It really is fantastic stuff but can slow down labour. I would definitely give the sweep a try first, I didn't find it very invasive and it did get things moving each time - just not fast enough!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Awwww, what a bruiser! I love pudgy bubbas though. :) Thanks a million for your input. I have booked the TENS machine and should have it at 37 weeks so I can practice on it after that, it's supposed to be amazing! I've only heard really positive things about it so looking forward to giving it a try.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Chattastrophe!


    Merkin wrote: »
    OMG xalot, the little one was quite happy in there obviously! Did you have a little boy or girl in the end? I'm sure at two weeks overdue you thought the little one would walk out by themselves! :)

    Would people agree that oxytocin seems to cause such violent/painful contractions that an epidural is invariably needed then? I'm curious about this as I thought an epidural takes some time to actually take effect so would you say it's better to have a prophylactic epidural and then induction if an induction is deemed necessary? Seems like the AMR and the sweep (if the cervix is ready) are a lot more gentle whereas the oxytocin seems to take people by surprise somewhat!

    What the midwives told me at the time was that, in their experience, 90% of women who get Oxytocin will end up needing an epidural at some point during the labour.

    I really hadn't read up on it, I had a vague idea of what an induction was, but I had never really heard about Oxytocin specifically. My thinking was that I was only six days over at the time - I had been set a date for induction at 14 days over if I didn't go any sooner, but I kind of thought I'd wait and see if I went into labour naturally before really researching the possibilities, I'd have probably just done my reading the night before when/if the time came. I guess I didn't really realise that sometimes you'll be "induced" when you're actually already in natural labour.

    So when I was told that they recommended an Oxytocin drip to help things along, and that I'd probably need an epidural, I said that if I was getting one I wanted it in ASAP - no point going through more pain than necessary if I had to get one anyways! This didn't happen, the epidural was delayed and didn't kick in until after the baby was born.

    The epidural itself was extremely uncomfortable because it involved sitting still for fifteen minutes, which isn't easy so far into labour. I could feel his head starting to come through even as I was sitting there getting it, and still was told not to move from the position! The needle itself isn't sore (well it wasn't for me anyways) just the discomfort of the position, when you have a big wriggly thing trying to make his escape! So if you're getting an epidural ... the earlier the better, and be assertive about it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭cyning


    I didn't need oxytocin, but I can say on my first the gel pains took me utterly by surprise. I wasn't expecting that level of pain I had pethedine with them. Again most maternity hospitals ANYWHERE only give 3 not 5 rounds, so that obviously didn't help.

    I found the TENS magic.

    I didn't mind sweeps, but after 3rd round of gel they did a stretch and sweep: f*****g horrendous. I wasn't told they were doing it either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    What the midwives told me at the time was that, in their experience, 90% of women who get Oxytocin will end up needing an epidural at some point during the labour.

    This is the info I was digging for, thank you. I'm sorry you had such a hard time, you really went through it. It must have seemed counter intuitive to get it when he was already half way out. You know I have no idea what will happen on the day and how things will go but if at all possible I'd like to try at first without an epidural (mainly because I like the thought of being able to walk around, bounce on ball, get on all fours and basically avoid lying down where possible) so it's interesting that the oxytocin seems to be followed closely with an epidural in most cases - it's good to know that now rather than maybe have it sprung on me at the time you know?

    I'm not opposed to an epidural (and God knows I could end up wailing like a banshee for one - a friend of mine said she had the best of intentions on her first and ended up SWEARING at the doctors in Holles Street for drugs, drugs, ANY drugs) but it's useful to know that it pretty much goes hand in hand with some induction methods.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    Merkin, have you heard of a Bishop Score?

    My advice would be, if you do go overdue and induction is mentioned, to ask what your bishop score is and go from there with what you decide. It will tell you a lot about whether induction is likely to work or not. If all is well with baby you could buy more time by waiting out a few more days or just go straight to an elective c section if you wanted to avoid a long hard labour that might end up in a c section anyway. (I've heard elective c sections are a lot easier to recover from than emergency ones but I've never experienced an elective!).

    I had all the intentions of asking my bishop score before being induced but forgot all about it at the end :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Chattastrophe!


    January wrote: »
    Merkin, have you heard of a Bishop Score?

    My advice would be, if you do go overdue and induction is mentioned, to ask what your bishop score is and go from there with what you decide. It will tell you a lot about whether induction is likely to work or not. If all is well with baby you could buy more time by waiting out a few more days or just go straight to an elective c section if you wanted to avoid a long hard labour that might end up in a c section anyway. (I've heard elective c sections are a lot easier to recover from than emergency ones but I've never experienced an elective!).

    I had all the intentions of asking my bishop score before being induced but forgot all about it at the end :(

    Yes, this! It is something I would definitely have asked about if only I'd known to ask about it. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    January wrote: »
    Merkin, have you heard of a Bishop Score?

    My advice would be, if you do go overdue and induction is mentioned, to ask what your bishop score is and go from there with what you decide. It will tell you a lot about whether induction is likely to work or not. If all is well with baby you could buy more time by waiting out a few more days or just go straight to an elective c section if you wanted to avoid a long hard labour that might end up in a c section anyway. (I've heard elective c sections are a lot easier to recover from than emergency ones but I've never experienced an elective!).

    I had all the intentions of asking my bishop score before being induced but forgot all about it at the end :(

    Wow, this is brilliant. I hadn't heard of this at all so it's great to be able to reference something tangible like this to use as a guide if an induction is recommended, thank you! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭xalot


    That Bishop Score thing is amazing. Do all hospitals use it?

    Definitely handy to know for next time!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    Merkin wrote: »
    Seems like the AMR and the sweep (if the cervix is ready) are a lot more gentle whereas the oxytocin seems to take people by surprise somewhat!

    I don't think any of those are gentle. Nothing is particularly gentle in labour. the breaking of waters is quick for sure, but not fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Funny you say that, was chatting to Mum about it today who said AMR is most definitely not what she'd describe as a gentle experience! She actually had oxytocin with all of us after they broke her waters and said that it was managed very well through a drip (she went privately under the care of Professor Gavin in the Coombe with us all) and while it did make the contractions stronger, it really speeded things along nicely. So many conflicting stories!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭RentDayBlues


    The breaking of my waters did not hurt at all, it was not uncomfortable and was so quick. Maybe that was helped by the fact I was well on my way anyway, with my first my waters went naturally. I also did not find the sweeps uncomfortable either

    Pitocin for me sped up what was happening anyway and with one at home I wanted to have my baby and return home ASAP. It ended well for me but last delivery got stressful towards the end as because of epidural I had been pushing for a long time and baby got stressed, again it shows each time is different


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,147 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    I had a sweep done a few days before being induced which didn't work. Just before having the drip they attempted to break my waters but couldn't, then I 'failed to progress' with the drip & babs got distressed after 5 hours in labour, ended up having an emergancy c-section, all v.stressful for me, my OH & our son.
    Should I get pregnant again & so long as me & the baby are fine I will not be having a sweep, waters broke or any form of induction, baby will arrive when ready;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    I was ten days over according to hospital and even though I kept telling them not only do I not think Im ten days over,im most definitely not at the point of getting ready to give birth. My bump was high,she hadn't settled down towards my lower pelvis yet,i wasn't uncomfortable,no feeling of contractions,no dilation etc etc the doctors ignored me and all their own training and just went ahead with sweeping. Didn't work so a few days later gave me a gel at 6pm,then another at 6am. Didn't work,didn't even get cramps. So waters broken and onto drip. Six hours later i had dilated a whole centimeter. Baby in distress. Emergency Csection. Next time im going to tell them to flip off with their interventions. If all the signs point to a happy baby,comfortable mammy and no sign of babs getting ready to go then forcing me into labour and risking my baby's life is really counter productive. Never again will i agree to that drip. And ignore all talk of a big baby,they haven't a clue,its all guess work,all along i was having this massive baby, well,she was 7 pound exactly at ten days over. Not even average. So ignore all that ****e. If it feels like yr not ready to give birth follow that instinct,i learned the hard way that i should have listened to my gut.


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    I had my waters break naturally but had a meconium issue, so as I was only 1cm along, I got the ocytocin drip. The midwife warned that statistically epidurals were more likely with the drip, but we agreed I'd give it a go without it and keep the option open.

    But after 3 hrs I was still 1cm and baby's heartbeat was becoming slightly erratic, and they started hinting at a C-section. I got the epidural when I knew it was more than likely, and about an hour later was brought to theatre.

    What I liked was that with the epidural, they were able to top it up so I was awake for the procedure, so I got to hear the baby cry and all that.

    A C-section is no picnic, but I dont think I'd be nervous if I had to have another. Pain-wise, I was on morphine that day, Diefene + Paracetamol for the 5 days after. Stitches were out on day 5, paracetamol for a few days after that when I was at home, I was tender but not sore by that stage. I think the worst part of the C-section was those bloody support stockings I had to wear for 6 weeks I managed 3 weeks afterwards in an Irish heatwave.

    2 years on, and my scar is about 1.5 inches long, barely visible, and in a location that only my partner, a gynae doc and my waxer would ever see! It was the bead stitch they used and it is so neat and healed perfectly flat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    You had to wear the support socks for 6 weeks??? I only ever had to wear them as long as I was in hospital!


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  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    January wrote: »
    You had to wear the support socks for 6 weeks??? I only ever had to wear them as long as I was in hospital!

    I managed three. :o
    My PHN told me off for it, then admitted I lasted about a week more than most women, and made me promise to take a short walk daily instead. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,147 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    January wrote: »
    You had to wear the support socks for 6 weeks??? I only ever had to wear them as long as I was in hospital!

    I didn't get any at all?!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    Ms2011 wrote: »
    I didn't get any at all?!!!

    God the inconsistency in care in this country is appalling... Did you get the anti clotting injections?


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    January wrote: »
    God the inconsistency in care in this country is appalling... Did you get the anti clotting injections?

    Is that the heparin? I got 4- 2 in each arm. Maybe it was the nurses technique but I had massive bruises from that, and I take a fair whack before a visible bruise will show. Then again, it was anti-clotting. Derp.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    Neyite wrote: »
    Is that the heparin? I got 4- 2 in each arm. Maybe it was the nurses technique but I had massive bruises from that, and I take a fair whack before a visible bruise will show. Then again, it was anti-clotting. Derp.

    Yep heparin, I had to have it every day I was in hospital, had it in my stomach though not in the arm.

    I bruised really badly this time :( Everyone was shocked, every time a nurse looked at it they sucked in their breath and went 'oh wow, you are really bruised...' I didn't realise how much until I got home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,147 ✭✭✭Ms2011


    January wrote: »
    God the inconsistency in care in this country is appalling... Did you get the anti clotting injections?

    I'm not sure to tbh, was pretty out of it after the section, didn't even realise they'd taken babs to the NICU until OH came in the next morning asking where he was & I had to send him up the the nurses station to find out :eek::o
    I know from my notes (not that I was ever told) that I bled excessively during the section (probably added to me being so out of it) so I'd say I most likely did get something for clotting but no socks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,948 ✭✭✭Sligo1


    Neyite wrote: »
    Is that the heparin? I got 4- 2 in each arm. Maybe it was the nurses technique but I had massive bruises from that, and I take a fair whack before a visible bruise will show. Then again, it was anti-clotting. Derp.

    Should usually be given in the subcutaneous tissue of the abdomen (ie into the belly). But can be given in arm. And yea can cause terrible bruising in some people. Some people's bellys I have seen were destroyed with the bruising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 967 ✭✭✭highly1111


    I haven't read all the posts but I was induced on 2 out of my 3 so here's my tuppence.

    First child I was overdue and extremely uncomfortable - my bump was rock solid and very very sore. I went in and they examined me and found I was leaking fluid so they induced me with the gel which was applied internally. Within a matter of minutes I started getting pains. Gel was applied at 6.30pm - the pains kept on coming and were extremely painful (hence the term pains!!! ha!!) the contractions were coming thick and fast and of course not knowing my ar*e from my elbow every time I had a contraction I thought I would poo!! at about 2.30am my waters broke and the pains got even more intense - I got pepidine (injection into the bum!) but it didn't work for me at all. I finally started to dilate at about 7.30am when I was examined again - got my epidural at about 9.30am and baby arrived at 4.22pm - I only had one gel application.

    2nd baby - was getting lots of Braxton hicks, was 13 days over and went into hospital - turns out it was Braxton hicks because basically once I went into the hospital the pains all stopped (at the time we were living over an hour away from holles st and midwives had advised me to come in because 2nd babies can come much faster) - they kept me in overnight and the following morning doing rounds the doctor broke my waters - said he was hardly going to send me home only to come back tomorrow - I was due to be induced on the Tuesday anyway and this was the Monday - he broke my waters - wasn't painful and within 3 hours - pains had well and truly begun! however, I dilated much faster and at about 1pm I was taken to the delivery suite and got my epidural and baby was born at 4.25pm.

    3rd baby arrived naturally 6 days overdue - she was my biggest baby but my easiest labour.

    I knew/know very few people who have experience of being induced and of going naturally - however, those I do know advised that induction pains are far far worse than natural labour pains and I 100% agree with this. I do believe that it's because your body is been artificially pushed into labour (although medically - it may need to be) - but the labour pains on my first and second were far far more intense than my 3rd. lets put it this way, if I had gone naturally and then been induced (i.e. my labours were the other way around) I would have been convinced that something was seriously wrong with either me or the baby.

    I just want to make it clear that I'm talking about my labour pains as opposed to my deliveries - my 1st delivery was horrendous - little fella decided he would turn in the birth canal - and my 2nd and 3rd were fine - for the purpose of this post, I'm talking about labour pains only - not delivery!

    so at the end of my rambling post, my advice is this - if at all possible - try and avoid induction. my 3rd labour was so so much easier - but not faster - in fact, number 2 arrived faster than number 3! my husband even couldn't get over the difference between labours 1 and 2 and then my third.

    PS - I also had 2 sweeps on my 2nd and nothing happened!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭SmokeyEyes


    Great to read all your experiences...Im 40 + 8 and booked in for Tuesday to be induced. Was examined by master on weds who said I was extremely favourable and 2-3cm already and I had a show when he did the internal. He said he'd eat his hat if I didnt go before Tuesday ( he actually thought id go that night) so fiance and I were on high alert but sure enough it's Sunday and no baby! Mucus plug coming away all the time and aches and pains but we're starting to think Im going to still end up being induced which we wouldnt choose if it's that or natural labour. Good to know all your experiences...sitting here waiting for labour is tough:-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    I know it's been said but you don't have to agree to induction. It may be hospital policy to say induction is done after X days overdue but you can decline any intervention, including induction. I know of people who declined gel induction or having waters broken and went naturally themselves.


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