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Your experience of induction

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  • 04-06-2014 6:40pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭


    I'm currently finishing the book Expecting Better by Emily Oster which has been very informative and debunks a lot of myths while churning out a gazillion statistics so will appeal to any nerds out there!

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Expecting-Better-Conventional-Pregnancy-Wisdom/dp/1409142310

    Her chapter on induction is interesting however and has made me fearful of oxytocin and what it does. The sweep seems far more preferable if an induction is necessary.

    I'd be really keen to hear the good and bad from anyone who has been through an induction and whether it is something to be apprehensive about? I don't want to rely on one woman for information regardless of her accurate statistics etc. The administration of oxytocin doesn't seem as common here as it is in Holles Street but I'm still curious as to how people got on. Thanks in advance ladies.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,865 ✭✭✭✭January


    Oxytocin on two births out of four... both of those births ended in emergency c sections due to fetal distress, the other two I had natural vaginal births.

    I didn't react well to the oxytocin myself the second time either, my blood pressure plummeted and I got really light headed and woozy.

    Oxytocin will only really work if your cervix is ready to dilate, a bit like a sweep really, a sweep will only work if the cervix is favourable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭kandr10


    I had a great experience regardless of oxytocin. For me having my waters broken caused contractions to come thick and fast so by the time they got the drip up I was well on my way anyway so opted for an epidural. They hooked up the two at the one time as well as insulin as I was diabetic. It took 12 hours from breaking of waters to baby's arrival. It's possible that the oxytocin slowed me down but I was comfortable so didn't mind. Could have just been a slow labour anyway. The baby's heart rate slowed down so when it came time to push they were preparing to use the suction but ended up just getting an episiotomy (also not as bad as I'd been reading about). Again I don't know if it was the oxytocin that caused the slowing heart rate or if it was inevitable. More likely with being induced I suppose.
    I was happy with my experience but then as jan said it depends on the individual. Try to go into labour as open mindedly as you can. Sorry for lengthy response!


  • Registered Users Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Xdancer


    I was induced with oxytocin.
    My waters had broken and they were stained with meconium, so I was given oxytocin to induce the contractions.
    Now I had started to dilate myself (1 cm) so it made the oxytocin more likely to work.
    The contractions started fairly quickly and I was told they were very strong but they didn't feel that bad to me as I was lucky enough to have all my contractions in my back so I think I had it very easy. My daughter didn't really react well to the contractions so I was being monitored constantly. I got to 7cm in a couple of hours and then asked for the epidural (the contractions were manageable for me, but there was no way I was going to give birth without pain relief if I could avoid it).
    The whole thing from being put on the drip to giving birth was about 6 hours.
    I realise I was lucky, but hopefully a positive story will make you feel less anxious.

    In the 70s and 80s my mother was induced 7 times ( once for each pregnancy) using oxytocin due to high blood pressure and found all deliveries fine.

    It's different for everyone but whatever way your labour goes the outcome will definitely be worth it :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Thanks a million girls. :) I'm keeping a totally open mind about what may or may not be needed on the day but it's interesting to see what effects and implications it has for labour and the baby's heartbeat etc. I suppose I want to see how different people reacted to it so that I can prepare myself if it is required and out of any other forum I always find dear Boardsies the most honest, no sugar coating! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭RentDayBlues


    Induction on second baby, was in labour anyway but was booked in so went ahead. Contractions every 4 mins and 3-4cms dilated when waters were broken.

    Left for an hour, contractions got stronger but hasn't dilated any further so got oxytocin. Contractions became immense, very strong and right on top of each other, baby born 40 mins later

    Was a nice experience and got my wish of no epidural


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,865 ✭✭✭✭January


    kandr10 wrote: »
    I had a great experience regardless of oxytocin. For me having my waters broken caused contractions to come thick and fast so by the time they got the drip up I was well on my way anyway so opted for an epidural. They hooked up the two at the one time as well as insulin as I was diabetic. It took 12 hours from breaking of waters to baby's arrival. It's possible that the oxytocin slowed me down but I was comfortable so didn't mind. Could have just been a slow labour anyway. The baby's heart rate slowed down so when it came time to push they were preparing to use the suction but ended up just getting an episiotomy (also not as bad as I'd been reading about). Again I don't know if it was the oxytocin that caused the slowing heart rate or if it was inevitable. More likely with being induced I suppose.
    I was happy with my experience but then as jan said it depends on the individual. Try to go into labour as open mindedly as you can. Sorry for lengthy response!

    Epidural has been known to slow labour and oxytocin speeds it up, they can kind of counteract each other too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭cyning


    I've had two inductions and two vastly different experiences: 5 rounds of gel on my first and 3 days. It wasn't a particularly pleasant experience: no ARM or oxytocin because my waters broke on their own and contractions came thick and fast. I was begging for an epidural got it went from 2-10cm in less than 30 minutes. Then nothing happened for over an hour!

    Second induction I got 1 round of gel at 10ish, went to 2cm over night, waters broke about 720ish used my tens machine, baby was born at 936. I think. Baby brain!

    Anyway my point is that every induction like every birth is vastly vastly different! Sweep did nothing for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Roesy


    I got first round of gels around 6.30pm, second round 6 hours later. Started getting back pain around 1am and the midwife said it was gel pains. Back pain got worse and I got some pethedine, it didn't really do anything for me. Had a bath and a couple of showers and got steadily more grumpy over the rotten 'gel pains'. Consultant arrived in at 7.15 to break my waters and I was on all fours on my bed at nearly 7cm. I was rushed to the delivery suite. OH arrived as I was just about pushing. Baby got into distress and they had to use vacuum to deliver her, which without epidural was not a pleasant experience! She arrived at 8.38am, about 12 hours earlier than we were told to expect her. I had no oxytocin but my experience of induction up until the point of delivery wasn't too bad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Excuse my ignorance but is the oxytocin given in gel form or is the gel something else entirely? Some of you are saying you had gel but no oxytocin so I'm a bit confused!


  • Registered Users Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Xdancer


    Merkin wrote: »
    Excuse my ignorance but is the oxytocin given in gel form or is the gel something else entirely? Some of you are saying you had gel but no oxytocin so I'm a bit confused!

    Oxytocin is given as a drip.
    I'm not sure what's in the gel. That seems to be the most common form of induction


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Roesy


    The gel was called prostaglandin I think. As far as I know it's like a hormone that causes the cervix to ripen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭cyning


    Yup induction kind of goes sweep (to see if it gets things moving), prostaglandin gel (to get you to dilate), ARM (to get things going even more), and then oxytocin.

    Gel pains for me were hell on earth on the first. But 5 rounds of gel is practically unheard of and That's what I was given.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Brilliant, thanks for the clarification!:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 634 ✭✭✭staticdoor71


    I was given the gel at 7 am. baby was born at 2 am the next day.

    didn't find it too bad to be honest. started getting pains around noon... was checked internally at about 6 pm and was at 3cm.
    went onto delivery ward about 9 pm.
    had tens machine. waters were broken. All clear.
    had pethidine as I was getting very panicky and nervous. Got to 7 cm and had epidural around 11 pm.
    She was born at 2 am on the button

    pregnant again with number 2. and would nearly rather be induced kinda liked the fact that it all happened in a controlled environment. . no rushing to hos of waters breaking in tesco ☺ no complaints here about being induced.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭cbyrd


    I've had 2 inductions (almost 3). My first was to speed up labour with my first girl (7 days overdue). I had erratic contrations through the night and it was decided to break my waters at 9am and put on the drip at 10am. My daughter was born at 11.32am :D no hanging around!!

    My 2nd experience was on my 2nd girl (14 days overdue). I was brought in the night before and given gel at 8pm. The gel is used to soften the cervix and can often lead to spontaneous labour if you're overdue. I was to be given another gel at 6am and then put on the drip at 10am. My waters started going at 3am and she was born at 6.03am.

    My (almost) 3rd was my son. I was brought in at 10am to be given gel at 6pm but I was already in early labour when I got there (14 days overdue). It was 2010 and very bad icy weather so was brought in early in the day. My 8pm I was in full flow and he was born at 10.52pm with no indution. My last baby was also spontaneous with my waters going at home.

    The main difference I found between natural and induced was the speed and intensity of the contrations. The baby's heartrate always dips during contraction and what would concern the medics is the time after contraction it takes for it to come back up. My last baby was natural birth but as I was in labour for hours (actually unknown to myself) he was getting distressed and his heartrate was dropping very low, they were getting ready to vacuum him out but I got there myself with 2 huge pushes.

    As was said before, labour with every baby is different. An open mind and a trust between you and your carer is essential. Sometimes doing a lot of reading up before you have a baby can scare the bejaysus out of you. The end result is well worth the effort. Ask lots of questions at your appointment so the confusion is taken out of the whole process. That's what will ease you're mind most if anything goes awry. Sorry for the essay .. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    I was induced on my second baby. Gel only, no oxytocin as things progressed quickly themselves.

    I found it fine... Much faster than my first labour, where i saw three shifts of midwives come and go before it was time to push.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Chattastrophe!


    Merkin wrote: »
    Excuse my ignorance but is the oxytocin given in gel form or is the gel something else entirely? Some of you are saying you had gel but no oxytocin so I'm a bit confused!

    I got it as a drip. At that stage my waters had already broken (on their own) and I'd started to dilate a little. I think the gel is given to get things started off, whereas Oxytocin is given to speed things along.

    I've already posted about my birth here, so I won't go into all the gory details again! :D Basically, to me, it all felt like it was going really well up until I got the Oxytocin. There was some meconium in the waters, but everything looked fine on the trace, and I could feel him moving away, so I really wasn't overly worried about the meconium.

    They gave me Oxytocin mainly because of my high blood pressure, I really didn't think it was necessary just because of that (my blood pressure fluctuates a lot, and I'd had it checked only that morning and it was fine.)

    However I guess I kind of thought, best to leave the decision to the professionals. With the benefit of hindsight, in future, I'd be more likely to go with my own instincts. I think it's important not to underestimate the connection you have with your baby. They are growing inside you. I genuinely think you'd feel it if they were in danger.

    Basically it speeded up things way too much for me. And sent the baby into distress, his heartrate was constantly dropping, it had been fine before. Up until that point in my labour, I was delighted at the fact that my waters had broken naturally at only six days past due date, and the contractions - while painful - were surprisingly manageable. With the Oxytocin, the contractions were far too close together and the pain was just unimaginable. I actually asked to go to the loo at one point - I wasn't allowed, they said I could use a bedpan if necessary - but I didn't even need to go to the loo, I had an idea that I could climb out the third-story window and run away, anything to escape from the pain! :D Labour should not be that way. I genuinely feel - and felt at the time - that I was progressing fine on my own.

    If they have concerns about your wellbeing or that of your baby, there's nothing wrong with asking for extra monitoring. But definitely go with your own instincts. It's brilliant that we have the means available for intervention, when things aren't going well, but just make sure it's necessary first.

    Also keep in mind that pretty much all forms of induction or intervention significantly increase the chances of a C section. Much as I whine about my birth experience (:o) at least it didn't end in a section, and my physical recovery was pretty much immediate. I had no pain in the days afterwards, I think I had one Difene tablet the following day and that was it, I never even needed a Panadol after that. Recovery from a section, from what I've heard, takes a lot longer and I can only imagine how tough it would be while looking after a small baby as well!

    Anyways in my own experience, Oxytocin is evil and I will not be accepting it again in the future. Maybe it just didn't suit my body for some reason. Even bearing in mind what I said above about recovery from a section, I'd actually take that over Oxytocin! I guess it's different for everyone, and I'm sure some people have really positive stories about how it helped them.

    When the time comes, my advice would be to really trust your instincts. Have faith in yourself and in your body. If pain relief or induction or intervention is necessary, it's great that the options are there, however I believe in most cases, intervention should be the exception rather than the rule. I think that sometimes the medical staff just want to get you in and out as quickly as possible - that was my experience anyways - but for you, it's your firstborn. It's a bit of a big deal! You can only have this experience once, and hopefully it'll be a positive experience. If intervention is required, fine, but just be sure at the time that it's medically necessary.

    And have the daddy prepped as well so that he can stand up for your wishes if you're not able to at the time!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Wow, thanks all so much for being so open and forthcoming about your experiences! Each birth really is unique isn't it? Tbh I have avoided too much voracious reading while pregnant as I've been extremely chilled throughout and am enjoying every moment so wanted to leave any reading until closer to the time lest I give myself the heebie-jeebies! I've very much been taking each day as it comes and living in the moment rather than stressing or worrying too much about what will happen come delivery day. :)

    I'm keen on knowing more about induction however because Baby Merkin is quite a big boy and the midwife said that standard procedure is induction four days after due date here and they won't go over more than that (if he is going to be a big birth weight) so I suppose it's useful to hear what other people went through. I've got my home visit antenatal day soon with the midwife so it's great to hear a few stories from other Mummas directly before I got through everything with her.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭kandr10


    Merkin wrote: »
    Wow, thanks all so much for being so open and forthcoming about your experiences! Each birth really is unique isn't it? Tbh I have avoided too much voracious reading while pregnant as I've been extremely chilled throughout and am enjoying every moment so wanted to leave any reading until closer to the time lest I give myself the heebie-jeebies! I've very much been taking each day as it comes and living in the moment rather than stressing or worrying too much about what will happen come delivery day. :)

    I'm keen on knowing more about induction however because Baby Merkin is quite a big boy and the midwife said that standard procedure is induction four days after due date here and they won't go over more than that (if he is going to be a big birth weight) so I suppose it's useful to hear what other people went through. I've got my home visit antenatal day soon with the midwife so it's great to hear a few stories from other Mummas directly before I got through everything with her.

    That's the best attitude to have. It'll make everything easier. Good to have questions to ask alright and get the official line on things from the midwife. When I was pregnant I forced myself to read the what to expect book. No idea why I didn't enjoy it and I didn't learn anything. I just thought it was what you should do lol :)

    Best of luck with your delivery whatever happens!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Awww thank you so much, that's lovely :) Yes, I believe knowledge is power but you can also go totally overboard as well I think. So I'm just trying to strike a balance between being aware of all my options and what they entail and also sticking my fingers in my ears while singing la-deee-laaa-lee-laaa and convincing myself that it is the stork who will deliver the baby after all......!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Jerrica


    Four days after due date is no time at all, the NICE guidelines say that anything up to 42 weeks is entirely normal. Not trying to throw a spanner in the works Merkin, but if - when the time comes - you do go four days over and everything is normal and happy then there's no reason not to request more time if you want it. There was a big discussion the other day on one of the Facebook groups I'm on about how estimates of size in utero can be so far off, so if they're saying he's big it's not an absolute certainty. If you got to 40+4 and you werent favourable you might be quite happy to wait another day or two (or you might be fed up and want to get going!)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Thanks Jerrica, that's just it. I will adopt a wait and see approach and see what feels right at the time. I don't feel in any way coerced and if I wanted to wait I don't think there will be an issue but I will still trust their advice etc as I reach due date. I know it's not an exact science but the midwives, foetal medicine consultant and my obstetrician have all said he's a big boy who loves his grub (he always has a full little tummy at our scans!). I still have another seven weeks left though so it could all even out and he could be an average weight - will just have to wait and see! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭xalot


    Fair play to you on looking into all eventualities! I was convinced I would go early so by the time I got to 2 weeks late it felt like I'd been pregnant for 4 years!

    Had 5, yes 5 sweeps and none of them really worked, but I didn't find them painful at all. Babs did not want to move. I finally started to lose my mucus plug on the day I was brought in to be induced.

    Was brought in for the gel on Sunday night, waters went naturally at 6am the next morning, started clear but became slightly stained as the contractions progressed. I started contracting at 5mins apart and was brought straight to labour ward. Had my tens machine and ball and was happy out, pain was very manageable and was 1cm dilated.

    They wanted to hook me up to oxytocin but as I was hoping for a natural birth I knew that once I took the oxytocin my hopes of that greatly diminished. The consultant agreed to give me a couple of hours and see how I was progressing but broke my hind waters. This made the contractions much more powerful as the water was providing 'padding' apparently! Anyway baby was showing signs of distress and so I had to lie in a specific position on the bed which was incredibly uncomfortable. Lying down is the worst thing to do when a contraction hits. At this point I knew I needed the epidural so as soon as I got that I was hooked up to the oxytocin to speed things along, had my epidural so didn't feel a thing (it's great stuff).

    Anyway, baby was in the wrong position and fetal distress continued so had an emergency section at 4am on the Tuesday morning.

    My advice would be to hold off any interventions if you can as from what I have heard (and experienced) one intervention often leads to the next and that leads to the next etc. But if you do have to have it dont beat yourself up for things not going the way you planned, all that matters is that you and your new arrival are safe and healthy.

    Best of luck with it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    OMG xalot, the little one was quite happy in there obviously! Did you have a little boy or girl in the end? I'm sure at two weeks overdue you thought the little one would walk out by themselves! :)

    Would people agree that oxytocin seems to cause such violent/painful contractions that an epidural is invariably needed then? I'm curious about this as I thought an epidural takes some time to actually take effect so would you say it's better to have a prophylactic epidural and then induction if an induction is deemed necessary? Seems like the AMR and the sweep (if the cervix is ready) are a lot more gentle whereas the oxytocin seems to take people by surprise somewhat!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭xalot


    Merkin wrote: »
    OMG xalot, the little one was quite happy in there obviously! Did you have a little boy or girl in the end? I'm sure at two weeks overdue you thought the little one would walk out by themselves! :)

    !

    Yeah, my not so little 9lb 7 baby boy did not want to budge!
    Any of the midwives I spoke to seemed to agree that oxytocin can make it a lot harder to have a natural birth as you can go from very manageable contractions to massive ones without a chance to adapt, it makes sense if you think that the cervix usually dilates slowly and gives your body the ability to deal with each pain level. That's why the tens is so great, you can pump up the level along with your contractions.

    For me the epidural kicked in very fast and they give you a little button to top it up if you feel it wearing off. It really is fantastic stuff but can slow down labour. I would definitely give the sweep a try first, I didn't find it very invasive and it did get things moving each time - just not fast enough!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    Awwww, what a bruiser! I love pudgy bubbas though. :) Thanks a million for your input. I have booked the TENS machine and should have it at 37 weeks so I can practice on it after that, it's supposed to be amazing! I've only heard really positive things about it so looking forward to giving it a try.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Chattastrophe!


    Merkin wrote: »
    OMG xalot, the little one was quite happy in there obviously! Did you have a little boy or girl in the end? I'm sure at two weeks overdue you thought the little one would walk out by themselves! :)

    Would people agree that oxytocin seems to cause such violent/painful contractions that an epidural is invariably needed then? I'm curious about this as I thought an epidural takes some time to actually take effect so would you say it's better to have a prophylactic epidural and then induction if an induction is deemed necessary? Seems like the AMR and the sweep (if the cervix is ready) are a lot more gentle whereas the oxytocin seems to take people by surprise somewhat!

    What the midwives told me at the time was that, in their experience, 90% of women who get Oxytocin will end up needing an epidural at some point during the labour.

    I really hadn't read up on it, I had a vague idea of what an induction was, but I had never really heard about Oxytocin specifically. My thinking was that I was only six days over at the time - I had been set a date for induction at 14 days over if I didn't go any sooner, but I kind of thought I'd wait and see if I went into labour naturally before really researching the possibilities, I'd have probably just done my reading the night before when/if the time came. I guess I didn't really realise that sometimes you'll be "induced" when you're actually already in natural labour.

    So when I was told that they recommended an Oxytocin drip to help things along, and that I'd probably need an epidural, I said that if I was getting one I wanted it in ASAP - no point going through more pain than necessary if I had to get one anyways! This didn't happen, the epidural was delayed and didn't kick in until after the baby was born.

    The epidural itself was extremely uncomfortable because it involved sitting still for fifteen minutes, which isn't easy so far into labour. I could feel his head starting to come through even as I was sitting there getting it, and still was told not to move from the position! The needle itself isn't sore (well it wasn't for me anyways) just the discomfort of the position, when you have a big wriggly thing trying to make his escape! So if you're getting an epidural ... the earlier the better, and be assertive about it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭cyning


    I didn't need oxytocin, but I can say on my first the gel pains took me utterly by surprise. I wasn't expecting that level of pain I had pethedine with them. Again most maternity hospitals ANYWHERE only give 3 not 5 rounds, so that obviously didn't help.

    I found the TENS magic.

    I didn't mind sweeps, but after 3rd round of gel they did a stretch and sweep: f*****g horrendous. I wasn't told they were doing it either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    What the midwives told me at the time was that, in their experience, 90% of women who get Oxytocin will end up needing an epidural at some point during the labour.

    This is the info I was digging for, thank you. I'm sorry you had such a hard time, you really went through it. It must have seemed counter intuitive to get it when he was already half way out. You know I have no idea what will happen on the day and how things will go but if at all possible I'd like to try at first without an epidural (mainly because I like the thought of being able to walk around, bounce on ball, get on all fours and basically avoid lying down where possible) so it's interesting that the oxytocin seems to be followed closely with an epidural in most cases - it's good to know that now rather than maybe have it sprung on me at the time you know?

    I'm not opposed to an epidural (and God knows I could end up wailing like a banshee for one - a friend of mine said she had the best of intentions on her first and ended up SWEARING at the doctors in Holles Street for drugs, drugs, ANY drugs) but it's useful to know that it pretty much goes hand in hand with some induction methods.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,865 ✭✭✭✭January


    Merkin, have you heard of a Bishop Score?

    My advice would be, if you do go overdue and induction is mentioned, to ask what your bishop score is and go from there with what you decide. It will tell you a lot about whether induction is likely to work or not. If all is well with baby you could buy more time by waiting out a few more days or just go straight to an elective c section if you wanted to avoid a long hard labour that might end up in a c section anyway. (I've heard elective c sections are a lot easier to recover from than emergency ones but I've never experienced an elective!).

    I had all the intentions of asking my bishop score before being induced but forgot all about it at the end :(


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