Should we abolish BC & AD?

Iwasfrozen · 02-06-2014 7:19pm

Should we abolish BC & AD?

No.

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--LOS-- · 02-06-2014 7:23pm

We've been using it so long now, what's the point of changing it, if it's bothering you then I think you're overthinking things

RDM_83 again · 02-06-2014 7:26pm

Muise... wrote: »

Didn't bother reading it because the argument is moot - BCE and CE have been standard for at least 40 years.

Its there but its not actually THE standard, at least in the journals or publications I would read (and no I am not talking about Christian Science weekly!).

As a Republic I think we should run of a Year Zero like the French did, and also use Metric time :-D

Muise... · 02-06-2014 7:29pm

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Its there but its not actually THE standard, at least in the journals or publications I would read (and no I am not talking about Christian Science weekly!).

As a Republic I think we should run of a Year Zero like the French did, and also use Metric time :-D

I rather liked their poetic month and day names too.

Capt'n Midnight · 02-06-2014 7:34pm

comongethappy wrote: »

It's already redundant, replaced by "BCE": Before Common Era.

(It is annoying when the media describe something like 2,000,000 years " BC"...... like those 2k years matter a lot on a million year time scale.)

this really irks me
BCE is 50% longer than BC and CE is to easy too confuse with BCE

BC = Before Common-era

our culture is based on latin stuff, other cultures have their own dating systems, it's a non-issue

But if we are appeasing other cutures, how about getting rid of Sun-god day, moon-god day, Woden's day, Thor's day , Frigg's day, Saturn's day.

And Janus-month, Mars , Maia, Juno,
Not to mention the "god" emperors Julius Caesar, Augustus
Feb is a religious ritual so that has to go too

Also

Also JC was born about 6BC depending on who you believe. So it's nothing to do with him either

BTW you can't use carbon dates as 1950 is where that scale stops

The ONLY reason to changing BC to something like BCE would be if it was used to sort out the year Zero problem.

Like this does
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_year_numbering

Donkey Oaty · 02-06-2014 7:40pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

But if we are appeasing other cutures, how about getting rid of Sun-god day, moon-god day, Woden's day, Thor's day , Frigg's day, Saturn's day.

Because then every day would by Tuesday, and Tuesdays aren't particularly good for me.

Qualitymark · 02-06-2014 7:41pm

This is total nonsense. The only reason to change BC and AD to BCE and whatever the other one is, is that BC and AD are Christian in root: 2020BC = 2,020 years before Christ and AD20 = Anno Domini 2020, the Year of the Lord 2,020, or 2,020 years after the supposed birth of Christ.

If the proposal was to go to a totally new year system it would be sensible to use a different name, but just changing them so they don't sound Christian - ridiculous.

This is led by the universities, who have completely lost the run of themselves in trying to impose it on normal people who don't care or in many cases know of the BC/AD system's origins.

FunLover18 · 02-06-2014 7:44pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

But if we are appeasing other cutures, how about getting rid of Sun-god day, moon-god day, Woden's day, Thor's day , Frigg's day, Saturn's day.

I never could get the hang of Thor's day

Sh1tbag OToole · 02-06-2014 7:44pm

Secular drysh1tes won't stop until they have absolutely everything taken over. Kind of like angry feminists and 'pc gone mad' enthusiasts

Sarky · 02-06-2014 7:45pm

If you let people redefine the institution of calenders, we'll all end up marrying our pets. Gay marrying them no less. THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

12gauge dave · 02-06-2014 7:48pm

People will be burning churches down next. Give religion a break please

Qualitymark · 02-06-2014 7:49pm

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

Secular drysh1tes won't stop until they have absolutely everything taken over. Kind of like angry feminists and 'pc gone mad' enthusiasts

I don't think it's secularists - I'm very very very much in favour of what the French call laïcité - absolute separation of church and state; to my mind religion is a private matter, and shouldn't be dragged into any public service.

But my secularism doesn't stop me from seeing this as nonsense.

And yes, while we're at it, why don't we get rid of Saturn's Day and Thor's Day and Freya's Day (or in Irish, why don't we get rid of First Fast Day, Between-Fasts, and Fast Day)? Why don't we axe the daringly controversial Janus Month, Mars Month, etc? And the months with numbers - September, October, November - how confusing is that, to have the ninth, tenth and eleventh month called Seventh, Eighth and Ninth? Someone could get hurt!

Manach · 02-06-2014 7:50pm

Perhaps let us re-set society and remove all references. From Day1 to Day7, as per the Khmer Rouge ...

FunLover18 · 02-06-2014 7:51pm

Manach wrote: »

Perhaps let us re-set society and remove all references. From Day1 to Day7, as per the Khmer Rouge ...

Sure the seven day weeks comes from the bible as well

The Diabolical Monocle · 02-06-2014 8:03pm

Something something the crusades.

Donkey Oaty · 02-06-2014 8:05pm

We need some alternatives. My suggestions are fairly lame, but here we go:

1. Pubday
2. Bobdislikesday or Blueday or Manicday
3. Fatneworleansday
4. Sheffieldday
5. Lidloffersday
6. Poetsday
7. Nightsallrightforfightingday.

Qualitymark · 02-06-2014 8:35pm

Or we could go like 18th-century Quakers and call the days First Day, Second Day and so on. It'd wreck popular music, though:

I don't like Second Day
Gonna shoo-hoo-hoo-hoot the whole day down.

First Day Morning comin' down.

I got Sixth Day on my mind.

Capt'n Midnight · 03-06-2014 7:53pm

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

Because then every day would by Tuesday, and Tuesdays aren't particularly good for me.

The English name is derived from Old English Tiwesdæg and Middle English Tewesday, meaning "Tīw's Day", the day of Tiw or Týr, the god of single combat, victory and heroic glory in Norse mythology

c_man · 03-06-2014 7:57pm

We only use Unix time in my house.

WilyCoyote · 03-06-2014 8:05pm

You never see BC here. Just BCE - Before Common Era.
Also, if you asked someone their Christian name, you'd get a blank look.
It's "given name" and surname is "family name".

AlanS181824 · 03-06-2014 8:09pm

I use CE and BCE, I remember writing it before in school during a test and getting docked marks and given out to because "that's wrong and this is a Christian school!"

There was no point in arguing with a teacher so I was just like.. M'kay!

Hehe :pac:

Corkfeen · 03-06-2014 8:57pm

Did a history degree,used plenty of books that were decades old on ancient history. They stopped using AD and BC a long time ago. It's merely media taking ages to actually catch up with the standards rather than political correctness. The updated terms were far more logical.

TheGlass · 03-06-2014 9:38pm

Absolutely pointless.

Qualitymark · 05-06-2014 10:52pm

Corkfeen wrote: »

Did a history degree,used plenty of books that were decades old on ancient history. They stopped using AD and BC a long time ago. It's merely media taking ages to actually catch up with the standards rather than political correctness. The updated terms were far more logical.

Academics. Batsh1t.

B.A._Baracus · 05-06-2014 11:04pm

Whats the old saying, don't fix whats not broken?
It's like if Coca Cola changed their name to 'Sweet Soda' because they didnt want people using the term "coke" because of the drug :pac: ... Point being why create confusion.