How do i determine the year of a northern reg car?

Iwannahurl

dobsdave wrote: »

County and City, no need to run ;-)

Not strictly true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derry/Londonderry_name_dispute

All I know is that UI is Derry.

See here for discussion on age of NI-reg vehicles: http://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-199604,00.html

Gazzmonkey

The year is on the plate, it's the first three letters... it's a code for the year it was made e.g OUI, PUI etc

PUI for example is 2006 if I remember correctly.

dgt

Gazzmonkey wrote: »

The year is on the plate, it's the first three letters... it's a code for the year it was made e.g OUI, PUI etc

PUI for example is 2006 if I remember correctly.

SBZ is 1997
VBZ is 1999
EEZ is 2005
SEZ is 2008

etc etc tec....

pow wow

NLZ is 2004
IEZ is 2006

Never encountered any rhyme or reason to it, just know that from owning cars in NI.

dgt

Jaypers just remembered a few more
KCZ & MUI are 2001
WAZ is 1998
DIL is 1986
PJI is 1992
PIB is 1993

We may have had a few NI vehicles here

Richard

jca wrote: »

On the numbers/letters system that's a Cork registration.

That could have been transferred to NI at one point (decades ago, it can't happen now) and then changed to a newer vehicle. One way to be sure is the format of the plate as a whole. If it's NNNN TZT (the number of numbers might be fewer than 4) then it's Cork.

If it's LL NN TZT then it's from Great Britain originally.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Richard wrote: »

That could have been transferred to NI at one point (decades ago, it can't happen now) and then changed to a newer vehicle. One way to be sure is the format of the plate as a whole. If it's LLL NNNN or NNNN LLLL (the number of numbers might be fewer than 4) then it's Cork.

If it's LL NN LLL then it's from Great Britain.

Cork?

jca

Richard wrote: »

That could have been transferred to NI at one point (decades ago, it can't happen now) and then changed to a newer vehicle. One way to be sure is the format of the plate as a whole. If it's NNNN TZT (the number of numbers might be fewer than 4) then it's Cork.

If it's LL NN TZT then it's from Great Britain originally.

If it's in the LL NN TZT format why would the op be looking for the year of registration? The NN part gives the year.

Richard

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

Cork?

ZT was assigned by the UK government to County Cork in the original system.

jezzer

how did it originally come from Cork?

jca

jezzer wrote: »

how did it originally come from Cork?

Because the letters ZT were allocated to Cork. Do you understand how the old pre 87 registration system worked? It looks complicated but once it's explained it's quite logical.

OldMrBrennan83

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jca

Patww79 wrote: »

The old system here and the current northy system are very similar.

They're both identical except in NI they use 9999 per letter instead of 999 per letter as we used here and subsequently ran out of letter/number combinations. Had we in the south used our brains and just added an extra numerical digit to the plate in the 1930's we could still be using that system.

OldMrBrennan83

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jca

Patww79 wrote: »

The new ones are much better though. Well, until they ruined them in 2013 .

I liked the old system but as you say the 87 on system is certainly more logical. The old system was for anoraks like me!!

OldMrBrennan83

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jezzer

does the fact that cars in the uk do not display the year make them worth more?

Andrew_Doran

Patww79 wrote: »

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Same system.. Motor Car Act 1903

jca

jezzer wrote: »

does the fact that cars in the uk do not display the year make them worth more?

Cars in the UK have displayed the year since 1962-63.

OldMrBrennan83

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ardmacha

Patww79 wrote: »

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Why? What is benefit of introducing a long more complex number when the present system is good for another quarter century?

jca

Patww79 wrote: »

Mainland UK kind of have it in theirs. XX03 AAA would be '03 starting in March 2003 (I think) and XX53 AAA would be '03 or '04 starting in August 2003 running until March 2004, then on to XX04 AAA.
It's 14 and 64 for the current years. As far as I know the XX part is the region, as someone told me once that Scottish cars will have an S there and Welsh cars will have a C. There's been long running plans to introduce the same system in Northern Ireland with an I or a Z in the first two letters.

They don't "kind of" have a year in their number plates. This year from the 1st of March is rr14xxx where rr is the area, 14 is the year (first six months March to September) and xxx are the letters allocated to each vehicle, on the first of September this changes to rr64xxx. Up to the introduction of this system they used a year letter at the end of the number plate sequence which changed on the 1st of August each year. In 1983 this system was reversed with the year letter at the beginning of the plate. A simple clever system but fatally flawed as after a maximum of 52 years there were no year letters left...

Richard

ardmacha wrote: »

Why? What is benefit of introducing a long more complex number when the present system is good for another quarter century?

It would simplify things now everything is being centralised in Swansea. But actually it's not going to happen any time soon as the UK Govt have said the current NI system will remain. It also brings in valuable revenue as it lets them sell personalised plates. In fact currently NI plates have to be assigned to an
NI car first before being transferred to a GB one. In the future this will no longer be necessary.

Richard

intellectual dosser wrote: »

Interesting that it has both Derry and Londonderry.

<<Grabs coat and runs>>

The county and city have seperate codes. Wikipedia uses the official name for the county and the popular name for the city.

Alun

jca wrote: »

A simple clever system but fatally flawed as after a maximum of 52 years there were no year letters left...

Less than that as they didn't use I,O,U or Z.