Tedder... good purchase/bad purchase

RightTurnClyde

What with the weather woes we are having, I'm considering getting a tedder. Well do ye think they are a good buy. None of the contractors around here have one.

bogman_bass

will they rake up after one?

RightTurnClyde

They said there'd be no issue. A couple of their customers have tedders and no problems.

Reggie.

Thinking for a while of getting one myself but can't make up my mind on it

mahoney_j

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

What with the weather woes we are having, I'm considering getting a tedder. Well do ye think they are a good buy. None of the contractors around here have one.

If you've ant high quality early silage then def get hold of a Tedder .i bought a second hand 6 rotor lely stabilo a few years ago and I ted all my pit and bale silage with it.really comes into its own in broken weather when opportunities are scarce.

Reggie.

mahoney_j wrote: »

If you've ant high quality early silage then def get hold of a Tedder .i bought a second hand 6 rotor lely stabilo a few years ago and I ted all my pit and bale silage with it.really comes into its own in broken weather when opportunities are scarce.

Do you find the 6 rotor slaps around much on the tractor

Zr105

Reggie. wrote: »

Do you find the 6 rotor slaps around much on the tractor

Do you mean as it works, as in one side will move forwards and back compared to the tractor? The lely wont because of the way 2 bars between the rotors and head stock work, they basically make it that the pivot point is further forward than it actually is and reduces the leverage that the rotors have to make it weave, it also makes it follow into a corner very well.
Other makes generally have the pivot right at the back of the head stock and the 6rotors will have a damper on them to try to stop the rotors getting from weaving

Robson99

Id buy a cheap tedder and a good rake. Hard to beat a rake before a baler

Greengrass1

Which would be the best make if tedder? Krone any good.
Seen a small fella rake down in Kildalton and looked okay

Zr105

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Which would be the best make if tedder? Krone any good.
Seen a small fella rake down in Kildalton and looked okay

Lely would get most lads votes once they worked them.

And on the rake i suppose it depends on what your doing really, just your own the fella would be grand as your not under massive pressure, but might be a bit light for lads out contracting

Reggie.

Zr105 wrote: »

Do you mean as it works, as in one side will move forwards and back compared to the tractor? The lely wont because of the way 2 bars between the rotors and head stock work, they basically make it that the pivot point is further forward than it actually is and reduces the leverage that the rotors have to make it weave, it also makes it follow into a corner very well.
Other makes generally have the pivot right at the back of the head stock and the 6rotors will have a damper on them to try to stop the rotors getting from weaving

No during transport

RightTurnClyde

Local dealer has a 6 rotor Kuhn in the yard ex demo. It ain't cheap but it seems like a lifetime machine.
My usual regime here was to mow day1 in the evening and then rake and pickup on the morning of day3
Mahoney would you say that the Tedder would pull in this much. Do you leave it long between mowing and tedding.

dharn

What about the wuffler type machines, I think they are brilliant, tedders tend to lump the grass and then just keep throwing that lump around, wuffler slow of course as it only does one sward at a time

Greengrass1

dharn wrote: »

What about the wuffler type machines, I think they are brilliant, tedders tend to lump the grass and then just keep throwing that lump around, wuffler slow of course as it only does one sward at a time

Going to borrow one to do my itailaian next week so I'll send what its like

Reggie.

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Going to borrow one to do my itailaian next week so I'll send what its like

Don't break it

Greengrass1

Reggie. wrote: »

Don't break it

Hope not. Ah im not that bad

Greengrass1

Zr105 wrote: »

Lely would get most lads votes once they worked them.

And on the rake i suppose it depends on what your doing really, just your own the fella would be grand as your not under massive pressure, but might be a bit light for lads out contracting

Ye it would only be for own use. So not under big pressure

mahoney_j

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

Local dealer has a 6 rotor Kuhn in the yard ex demo. It ain't cheap but it seems like a lifetime machine.
My usual regime here was to mow day1 in the evening and then rake and pickup on the morning of day3
Mahoney would you say that the Tedder would pull in this much. Do you leave it long between mowing and tedding.

You could take at least 24 hours of it.if I get dry weather I'd leave it 3 days and turn 3 times as I like to get it as dry as pissible.had bales at 64% dm last year and pit at 48% .the stuff looked and smelt so good you'd eat it yourself!!!
On buying second hand be carefull especially with Irish farmer owned machines.check for play on rotors and that it's well greased.mibe came from holland,had a lot of work done and well minded

Reggie.

mahoney_j wrote: »

You could take at least 24 hours of it.if I get dry weather I'd leave it 3 days and turn 3 times as I like to get it as dry as pissible.had bales at 64% dm last year and pit at 48% .the stuff looked and smelt so good you'd eat it yourself!!!
On buying second hand be carefull especially with Irish farmer owned machines.check for play on rotors and that it's well greased.mibe came from holland,had a lot of work done and well minded

Was it from that fella in limerick

mahoney_j

Reggie. wrote: »

Was it from that fella in limerick

Yep,cappamore

Daniel7740

Bought a lely 675 new last year. Lovely machine to use, well worth the investment imo. Wouldnt be seen with in a mile of a haybob after using it

Zr105

Reggie. wrote: »

No during transport

Shouldn't really but will depend on your stabilizers on the lower links more than anything, most of them have some form of locking mechanism to stop them pivoting when lifted, and also the outer rotors normally have a latch to lock them up when folded.

most of them will swing back to centre when lifted(like a haybob does) the lely will lock at whatever angle it's lifted at and stay at that angle till dropped again as they use a different system to lock it

Reggie.

Zr105 wrote: »

Shouldn't really but will depend on your stabilizers on the lower links more than anything, most of them have some form of locking mechanism to stop them pivoting when lifted, and also the outer rotors normally have a latch to lock them up when folded.

most of them will swing back to centre when lifted(like a haybob does) the lely will lock at whatever angle it's lifted at and stay at that angle till dropped again as they use a different system to lock it

If you hit a bump too hard I'd say there is a fair slap off it on the lift arms

John_F

Daniel7740 wrote: »

Bought a lely 675 new last year. Lovely machine to use, well worth the investment imo. Wouldnt be seen with in a mile of a haybob after using it

roughly what sort of money would ya be talking new. (pm if ya wish) on the shopping list here too but so is alot of other stuff :P lely seem to be the one

http://www.forum4farming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10082

Reggie.

mahoney_j wrote: »

Yep,cappamore

He always has a few on the donedeal. What's he like to deal with? Does he deliver? The machines from holland are far better looked after than our own farm worked ones

John_F

Reggie. wrote: »

He always has a few on the donedeal. What's he like to deal with? Does he deliver? The machines from holland are far better looked after than our own farm worked ones

has he a name :rolleyes:

Reggie.

John_F wrote: »

has he a name :rolleyes:

Most of his ads are marked seller

yellow50HX

mahoney_j wrote: »

If you've ant high quality early silage then def get hold of a Tedder .i bought a second hand 6 rotor lely stabilo a few years ago and I ted all my pit and bale silage with it.really comes into its own in broken weather when opportunities are scarce.

Can they be used to rake as well? Can't see the point of buying a Tedder and a rake. Ideally it should do both jobs.

Reggie.

http://www.donedeal.ie/haybobs-for-sale/lely-lotus-460-tedder/7020521
Just made a lier out of myself :rolleyes:

Reggie.

yellow50HX wrote: »

Can they be used to rake as well? Can't see the point of buying a Tedder and a rake. Ideally it should do both jobs.

The lotus is the only machine that can do that but leaves the rows like a haybob and not a rake.

Zr105

Reggie. wrote: »

If you hit a bump too hard I'd say there is a fair slap off it on the lift arms

A bit, but to be honest any rake or Tedder is not the sort of yoke you'd do 40k on a rough road with, none of them are built for our roads. Their not actually that heavy to lift so not hard on a tractor, one thing you would find with a 6rotor is you need a reasonable enough lift height to get the outside rotors up clear of a decent swarth.

Yellow50hx the lotus 600(4rotor) will rake 2 swarths behind it but their not the tidiest of swarths. Its one job or the other IMO, jack of all trades master of none comes to mind.