Double bale handlers

happylad

Hi all,

I was thinking of looking or getting a double bale handlers. I was looking at getting a nugent one. They have a twin bale lifter that will lift two bales and tip them on there ends. There are prob other makes there too.

Just wondering has anyone any experience of these or similar machines. What size bales do these normally cater for. I think normal bales are around 4ft diam. I'm sure theres no fear of the second bale not fitting when you have one bale on.

We stack the bale on there ends always and we try to keep them close together. Just wondering if we got one would it keep the bales tight together

GrandSoftDay

happylad wrote: »

Hi all,

I was thinking of looking or getting a double bale handlers. I was looking at getting a nugent one. They have a twin bale lifter that will lift two bales and tip them on there ends. There are prob other makes there too.

Just wondering has anyone any experience of these or similar machines. What size bales do these normally cater for. I think normal bales are around 4ft diam. I'm sure theres no fear of the second bale not fitting when you have one bale on.

We stack the bale on there ends always and we try to keep them close together. Just wondering if we got one would it keep the bales tight together

Used a Nugent one a good few times lifting Mchale bales and couldn't fault it.

bogman_bass

used the contactors Nugent. works grand but you want a big lump of a tractor using it. aldo you need to pick one bale up, put it down beside the other and then pick the two up. If you lift one bale and then back straight into the second you are liable to tear the first. You soon get used to it.

You wont get them quite as tight as you would with a single rake but its not far off

darragh_haven

We used a neighbors double handler. We had our own single handler putting one bale next to the other in the field so the double wasn't wasting time and just collected the 2 and drew them to the yard until

happylad

Thanks for all the replys. A lad was telling me there designed for 4ft bales. I suppose to be fair there isn't a big difference in the size of the bales that come out of the fusion.

The handler looks a fast yoke for moving bales

Reggie.

darragh_haven wrote: »

We used a neighbors double handler. We had our own single handler putting one bale next to the other in the field so the double wasn't wasting time and just collected the 2 and drew them to the yard until

Good plan there

happylad

Anyone know the distance between the a double bale handler. The single one we have is 37inchs. It's a tubular type. I would imagine it's probably 15 or 16inch between them to the next handler

happylad

The reason I ask the above is I'm trying to convince the father it will stack the bales tight enough. I think I'll have to mark it out on the ground for the father to show him.😁

Reggie.

happylad wrote: »

The reason I ask the above is I'm trying to convince the father it will stack the bales tight enough. I think I'll have to mark it out on the ground for the father to show him.ðŸ˜

The lengths you have to go to

freedominacup

We got the contractor to bring in bales last week with his keltec. 10 bales at a time. It was all I could do to keep them stacked ahead of him with a teleporter. Never again drawing in bales ourselves. He'd keep in to a fusion on a short draw no problems.

Reggie.

freedominacup wrote: »

We got the contractor to bring in bales last week with his keltec. 10 bales at a time. It was all I could do to keep them stacked ahead of him with a teleporter. Never again drawing in bales ourselves. He'd keep in to a fusion on a short draw no problems.

We draw with a trailer and the soft hands.

yellow50HX

happylad wrote: »

Hi all,

I was thinking of looking or getting a double bale handlers. I was looking at getting a nugent one. They have a twin bale lifter that will lift two bales and tip them on there ends. There are prob other makes there too.

Just wondering has anyone any experience of these or similar machines. What size bales do these normally cater for. I think normal bales are around 4ft diam. I'm sure theres no fear of the second bale not fitting when you have one bale on.

We stack the bale on there ends always and we try to keep them close together. Just wondering if we got one would it keep the bales tight together

Do you want it for wrapped or unwrapped bales?
If you get a twin unit get one that can lift the second bale with out have to drop the 1st. Less likely to damage the plastic. Something like this.
http://www.farmersjournal.ie/toplink/bale-handler-twin/13951

happylad

Looks good it would be for all wrapped bales. Trying to.send thing up a little. Anyone have one of the tube handlers. Some people say the duck foot ones are better

Reggie.

yellow50HX wrote: »

Do you want it for wrapped or unwrapped bales?
If you get a twin unit get one that can lift the second bale with out have to drop the 1st. Less likely to damage the plastic. Something like this.
http://www.farmersjournal.ie/toplink/bale-handler-twin/13951

Would be the job but would it be worth the extra expense for the amount of times you would use it

Brown Podzol

darragh_haven wrote: »

We used a neighbors double handler. We had our own single handler putting one bale next to the other in the field so the double wasn't wasting time and just collected the 2 and drew them to the yard until

A good man on the wrapper can leave two bales ready for the twin bale handler, by loading the table, another one on the arm. Wrap one, leave it off and wrap the second one and leave off so that it sits side by side and touching the first one.

Reggie.

Brown Podzol wrote: »

A good man on the wrapper can leave two bales ready for the twin bale handler, by loading the table, another one on the arm. Wrap one, leave it off and wrap the second one and leave off so that it sits side by side and touching the first one.

True but don't carry a bale on the arm. Had a drawbar snap off a wrapper on me one time cos of that

vanderbadger

some lads go to alot of trouble putting 2 bales side by side for the double handler, i have a fleming with the hydraulic offset but to be honest i never use the hydraulic part, just pick up one bale and move onto next one, drop and reverse, doesnt seem to be damaging the first bale by reversing it back along the ground to pick the 2nd one

darragh_haven

Brown Podzol wrote: »

A good man on the wrapper can leave two bales ready for the twin bale handler, by loading the table, another one on the arm. Wrap one, leave it off and wrap the second one and leave off so that it sits side by side and touching the first one.

We were picking up after a fusion baler.

Muckit

darragh_haven wrote: »

We were picking up after a fusion baler.

With the fusion l get him to try drop as many bales off on the headland nearest the gate.

That way it's nearer for home and neighbours passing the road think it's a mighty heavy crop!!

rushvalley

Muckit wrote: »

With the fusion l get him to try drop as many bales off on the headland nearest the gate.

That way it's nearer for home and neighbours passing the road think it's a mighty heavy crop!!

Thought I was the only one who done that

GrandSoftDay

Brown Podzol wrote: »

A good man on the wrapper can leave two bales ready for the twin bale handler, by loading the table, another one on the arm. Wrap one, leave it off and wrap the second one and leave off so that it sits side by side and touching the first one.

Yip I used always tip the two together when we had to draw in bales. They bounce off each other if you stay too close when you tipping the second one though.

happylad

Think I might chance making a tube type double bale handler. Feeling adventurous :-) can anyone check the distance between the two inner tubes. That'll lete know how much to keep them apart to allow them to tip close enough together

Greengrass1

Reggie. wrote: »

True but don't carry a bale on the arm. Had a drawbar snap off a wrapper on me one time cos of that

Really? I've always carried bales around on arm. Once I get to 3rd bale I let arm on ground. Then put on that bale when other one is finished. PPick up the 3rd one and off to next bale and so on.
Never had problems

quietsailor

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Really? I've always carried bales around on arm. Once I get to 3rd bale I let arm on ground. Then put on that bale when other one is finished. PPick up the 3rd one and off to next bale and so on.
Never had problems

Same here. I had to follow 2 to 3 rp200s around the country (a long long time ago) and I had to use tricks like that to keep up with them. It never broke the arm.

Reggie.

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Really? I've always carried bales around on arm. Once I get to 3rd bale I let arm on ground. Then put on that bale when other one is finished. PPick up the 3rd one and off to next bale and so on.
Never had problems

It only has to happen the once

Greengrass1

Reggie. wrote: »

It only has to happen the once

Your a curse. Putting all these bad thoughts in my head of machines getting broke

Reggie.

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Your a curse. Putting all these bad thoughts in my head of machines getting broke

Welcome to my world. Ah in fairness the newer wrappers are far stronger than the one I used years ago

Zr105

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Really? I've always carried bales around on arm. Once I get to 3rd bale I let arm on ground. Then put on that bale when other one is finished. PPick up the 3rd one and off to next bale and so on.
Never had problems

Always done that aswell! Unless the ground was stupidly soft in which case it was throw the bale up wrap, tip and then move, that way you dont leave 2 drains up middle of field

yellow50HX

Maybe it's cos it's not really done much round these parts but I can't see the logic in wrapping bales in the field and drawing them back to the yard one or 2 at a time. I use the digger or tractor and bale spike (like today) to bring in bales to the wrapper if it right next to where I'm wrapping. Have been using a tanco auto wrapper on a loader to wrap and stack for a long while now and use a keltec to draw in the bales. A lot quicker and easier and never a worry about damaging the plastic. We don't see many fusions round here.

jimmy G M

bogman_bass wrote: »

used the contactors Nugent. works grand but you want a big lump of a tractor using it. aldo you need to pick one bale up, put it down beside the other and then pick the two up. If you lift one bale and then back straight into the second you are liable to tear the first. You soon get used to it.

You wont get them quite as tight as you would with a single rake but its not far off

What size of tractor would be needed to handle a double handler? Have a MF 4255, 95hp, 4wd, rated to lift 2400kg at lift arm ends. Loader with bale handler on the front to counterbalance. Would this do the job?

agriman27

jimmy G M wrote: »

What size of tractor would be needed to handle a double handler? Have a MF 4255, 95hp, 4wd, rated to lift 2400kg at lift arm ends. Loader with bale handler on the front to counterbalance. Would this do the job?

I'd say you'd manage them but it would be a tight weight it'll stick ya to the ground be awkward load. I have a 4355 and I was carring one on the front and one on the back and I found them heavy enough and it was well wilted dry stuff I don't think I'd fancy bring 3 especially if it was wet stuff

jimmy G M

agriman27 wrote: »

I'd say you'd manage them but it would be a tight weight it'll stick ya to the ground be awkward load. I have a 4355 and I was carring one on the front and one on the back and I found them heavy enough and it was well wilted dry stuff I don't think I'd fancy bring 3 especially if it was wet stuff

Ok, Thx. You have the same tractor as me just a couple of years newer. I find that it handles the bale on the front and the back no bother. If anything the one on the front is the one that adds the extra sway and bounce if ya know what I mean.

Obviously carrying 2 and certainly 3 bales you need to have your wits about you and taking your time a bit - easier on man and machine. Just wondering if anyone has any experience of carrying three bales on a similar size tractor.

Mite be dreaming a bit but handled circa 120 bales in the last 36 hours and prob will have the same again over the next 36 and 3 at a time is 50% cut in trips. Make about 600 bales per year. Have another tractor with a single handler, but tiz a lot of drivin around.

bogman_bass

I was driving a JD 6600 yesterday. It's a 6 cylinder tractor with front links (but I had nothing on them) and I still had the front tires 2 feet in the air when I hit a bump.

Now with one on the front you have ballast so you might be ok but if its big heavy fusion bales like I had you could be struggling

keep going

jimmy G M wrote: »

What size of tractor would be needed to handle a double handler? Have a MF 4255, 95hp, 4wd, rated to lift 2400kg at lift arm ends. Loader with bale handler on the front to counterbalance. Would this do the job?

Have double on the back and one on the loader and its a lovely balance on tl 100 which wouldnt be a weighty tractor and did it with a tl80 before and no bother

leoch

jimmy G M wrote: »

Ok, Thx. You have the same tractor as me just a couple of years newer. I find that it handles the bale on the front and the back no bother. If anything the one on the front is the one that adds the extra sway and bounce if ya know what I mean.

Obviously carrying 2 and certainly 3 bales you need to have your wits about you and taking your time a bit - easier on man and machine. Just wondering if anyone has any experience of carrying three bales on a similar size tractor.

Mite be dreaming a bit but handled circa 120 bales in the last 36 hours and prob will have the same again over the next 36 and 3 at a time is 50% cut in trips. Make about 600 bales per year. Have another tractor with a single handler, but tiz a lot of drivin around.

would a bale trailer not be handier seeing as U have a front loader and especially when U have that many bales

jimmy G M

Have thought about that too, but most of the draws are short so between loading and unloading and having a tractor tied up with the trailer nothing to be gained I reckon.

Reggie.

jimmy G M wrote: »

Have thought about that too, but most of the draws are short so between loading and unloading and having a tractor tied up with the trailer nothing to be gained I reckon.

Its less travelling on the ground imo

jimmy G M

Reggie. wrote: »

Its less travelling on the ground imo

Yeah, I've a multipurpose trailer maybe a 15x8 tipper on the wish list. I'd get better use out of it than just a straight bale transporter. If we get a decent few days nxt week, it'll be pretty much all over for this year, then the humour to buy will go off me again ....... till nxt year.

Reggie.

jimmy G M wrote: »

Yeah, I've a multipurpose trailer maybe a 15x8 tipper on the wish list. I'd get better use out of it than just a straight bale transporter. If we get a decent few days nxt week, it'll be pretty much all over for this year, then the humour to buy will go off me again ....... till nxt year.

That's what I use along with a bale extension.

jimmy G M

Reggie. wrote: »

That's what I use along with a bale extension.

Ok. I might talk to you on that again when I've a bit of time to do some checking around.

Reggie.

jimmy G M wrote: »

Ok. I might talk to you on that again when I've a bit of time to do some checking around.

I'll stick up a pic for ya