is Ireland your future

Heatmachine1

Has living abroad before made it harder for you to settle back in Ireland.
Im back a few years now,was away for 9yrs previous different parts of the globe some great others average,I find it very hard to see Ireland as the place I want to live out my future in.
Ireland has many great things but I just feel bored here with my surroundings,weather is a big one but it kind of feels like old socks living back here.
Anyone else have that yearning to move to another country and set up again.
Im planning to venture on in 2-3yrs and need that time to put things in place to avoid us having to return snd allow a journey to continue.
just wondering does anyobe else feel restless here

Rosy Posy

Been away nearly 8 years now, I couldn't imagine moving back. Lovely for a holiday but my kids have such a better simpler life here (NZ) and the weather thing is huge. Wish that it was closer and that there was the same kind of craic as at home though!

RobertKK

Ireland has good weather most of the time, nothing too extreme. The only extreme in the past 12 months was the February 12th storm.
So I would not use that as an argument against Ireland.
I am happy here, one can't move their land abroad, or declare it an independent republic...

fr336

If all the moaners could leave so I can have your country all to myself, that'd be great thanks :pac:

MRnotlob606

I want sheep farm in Mehico

Rosy Posy

RobertKK wrote: »

Ireland has good weather most of the time, nothing too extreme. The only extreme in the past 12 months was the February 12th storm.
So I would not use that as an argument against Ireland.

Have you ever lived somewhere that's consistently dry and warm? Where you can plan to do outdoor stuff regularly and in advance? It makes a massive difference when you've got kids. Irish weather may not be extreme but it's very often damp!

whatawaster

Couldn't see myself living anywhere else. I've done the travelling thing and hope to do more in the future, but I'm settled here.

Ireland is a beautiful country with a lot going for it IMO. Some crap elements to it too, but so does everywhere.

Most important to me is that family and friends 90%) live here.

RobertKK

Rosy Posy wrote: »

Have you ever lived somewhere that's consistently dry and warm? Where you can plan to do outdoor stuff regularly and in advance? It makes a massive difference when you've got kids. Irish weather may not be extreme but it's very often damp!

Only on holiday.

Damp is better than drought. I own a farm, that business is ruled by the weather.
Regular rain and not months of no rain is what keeps us green, and helps the economy. Temperatures never get too extreme.
The country would fall apart if consistently warm and dry - water rationing and if too cold like 2010 - water rationing
We have one of the best climates for our latitude.
We are lucky with our weather, even if it is a bit miserable today.

pow wow

Was away for 11 years and back for 4 now...much as I still have the wanderlust I'm just getting too old to be hoiking my belongings from country to country every couple of years. I'm at the stage where I'd like to find somewhere I like and just stay there! With family commitments (ageing parents) that will most likely be Ireland. Not totally sold on the idea if I'm honest, but it is what it is.

I travel a lot to the other countries I've lived in to meet up with old friends so that satisfies my travel bug a bit, but I do genuinely hope the restlessness leaves me soon.

Grandeeod

RobertKK wrote: »

Only on holiday.

Damp is better than drought. I own a farm, that business is ruled by the weather.
Regular rain and not months of no rain is what keeps us green, and helps the economy. Temperatures never get too extreme.
The country would fall apart if consistently warm and dry - water rationing and if too cold like 2010 - water rationing
We have one of the best climates for our latitude.
We are lucky with our weather, even if it is a bit miserable today.

I live in a hot and dry country. It rains about 3 times a year. The economy is fine and agriculture produces what grow well in the climate. There is no water rationing and my water bills are cheaper than those proposed by Irish Water.

Oh and my cherry tomatoes are fantastic.:D

Sephiroth_dude

I'm hoping to move to either Canada or north America in the next few years.

bodice ripper

**** the sun, I am coming home.

NZ_2014

RobertKK wrote: »

We have one of the best climates for our latitude.
We are lucky with our weather, even if it is a bit miserable today.

In fairness it's a bit miserable 300 days a year.

300 days of sunshine sounds better

mojesius

Yes, I see Ireland as my future! I lived abroad for a few years and while I had a great time, I missed certain aspects of life in Ireland a lot - Mainly my family and friends but other things that I didn't really appreciate until I wasn't living here, such as the convenience (small country), the natural beauty of our coutryside and coast and the quality of our food (e.g dairy, meat, seafood, shpuds!)

I plan on quitting the job next year and doing a year around the world, something I should have done properly years ago but I see myself settling here afterwards. The plan is to move out wesht away from Dublin, I've lived here most my life and want something a bit quieter, less hectic and more outdoors.

o1s1n

What I love about Ireland is how close you are to so many different things.

Right now if I want to go into the city centre, I can get a bus outside my house and be there in about 50 minutes.
If I want some countryside, we can hop in the car and the mountains are 5-10 minutes up the road.
As is Powerscourt Waterfall, Avoca... Glendalough isn't much further.
Go the other way and you have things like Killiney Hill, the Dublin mountains.
Want to walk by the sea? Again, 5 minute drive.

We have such amazing history and heritage - often overlooked by locals and really envied by much of the world.

R.D. aka MR.D

I've lived away for a total of 4 years and I honestly don't know if I would go back.

It might sound stupid to people who haven't lived in a different climate but predictability of weather is absolutely fantastic. I remember when i first moved to south america, i couldn't get used to the idea that i didn't need a coat 'just in case'.

Ireland is really really great but unfortunately there isn't the opportunity to do what I like doing there.
My OH isn't Irish and he says that Ireland sounds like a bunch of people who are always in each others business and begrudging and it's true to an extent.
I come from a rural area where everyone knows everyone and it's all about 'what the neighbours say'.

Living in a culture that isn't my own allows me to escape a lot of the expectations at home and in my host culture.
Best of both worlds!

CelticRambler

Let's see. I've got bills for household charge, bin collection, metered water, a contribution to the "public good" on my electricity bill (with VAT added after), a demand for business rates in respect of an internet business that has no premises, have to argue against paying the TV license every year (coz I've got no TV), the country is being run into the ground by the government ... and it's been raining for a week.

Ireland sounds no worse than that, so yeah, I could live there.

kowloon

CelticRambler wrote: »

a demand for business rates in respect of an internet business that has no premises, .

Wait, what?!


A lot of people have no future in Ireland, but they'll stay anyway. The same is true for everywhere else.

MRnotlob606

What keeps me here is the people

sashafierce

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vitani

I've lived away a couple of times just for short periods and while I loved the experiences, now that I'm back in Ireland, I'm happy. I like living somewhere with years of shared experiences and memories with other people. I didn't appreciate that until I lived somewhere different.

o1s1n

R.D. aka MR.D wrote: »

My OH isn't Irish and he says that Ireland sounds like a bunch of people who are always in each others business and begrudging and it's true to an extent.
I come from a rural area where everyone knows everyone and it's all about 'what the neighbours say'.

Living in a culture that isn't my own allows me to escape a lot of the expectations at home and in my host culture.
Best of both worlds!

It really does depend where you live in Ireland. That kind of small town, knowing exactly what everyone is up to and the local gossip would drive me insane too.

I've never experienced it first hand though as I've never lived in a small town.

Tail Docker

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

What keeps me here is the people

Have you tried escaping when they are not looking?

shruikan2553

Maybe one day but at the minute planning on heading to america for a few years at least.

CelticRambler

kowloon wrote: »

Wait, what?!

:mad: Yeah, welcome to the weird and wonderful world of French anti-business socialism. You wouldn't believe the number of young people who want to leave the country and look for a better life in places like ... ... Ireland.

catbear

o1s1n wrote: »

It really does depend where you live in Ireland. That kind of small town, knowing exactly what everyone is up to and the local gossip would drive me insane too.

I've never experienced it first hand though as I've never lived in a small town.

I left a small town and it would be extremely hard for me to settle back in. I do miss the craic but when coupled with small town politics it loses its sheen.

I emigrated back in the 80s and was really glad to get back to Ireland but during the 00s, especially during the property bubble I really disengaged with the place. It was upsetting as in I watched family and friends get caught up in the nonsense and no amount of common sense would prevail.

Ultimately Ireland is a small place and it's normal in a globalised world to be attracted to other places. Ireland will always be home and I'll always miss and treasure that non serious craic factor.

Legs.Eleven

I've been away approaching 10 years now.

After about a million beers last night, we decided we'd both love to live and settle down in Portugal, so Ireland is looking less likely. When you meet someone not from your home country, things get tricky. Job opportunities for both of us are not plentiful right now but who knows down the line. He loves Ireland and I do too, so never say never.



I'd really, really miss the great weather tbh. That's the one thing might stop me from going home down the line.

Pumpkinseeds

We've been back for 8 years and will leave again at the first practical opportunity.

Calibos

o1s1n wrote: »

It really does depend where you live in Ireland. That kind of small town, knowing exactly what everyone is up to and the local gossip would drive me insane too.

I've never experienced it first hand though as I've never lived in a small town.

So you got over your distaste of the 'Scum and Incestuousness' of your hometown then? (Your posts stood out in a Bray slagging thread from 2011 someone linked to the other day is the reason I ask) Was Clontarf not all it was cracked up to be?

I think Bray is a good example as a microcosm for Ireland as a whole. It's got its problems, we slag it sometimes, we under appreciate it but really we don't know how lucky we are.

The Sun has just come out over Bray Promenade. Heaven!

Muise...

Weather schmeather.

I would be bored by a predictable climate, and never have the delayed gratification of waking up to a dewy May morning, birds singing, flowers opening, scent of green warmth in the air, high as a kite at last.

I would also miss the unspoken stuff between people here; being able to read people and situations and just get it (I have four other languages, but I can't use words like my username in any of them).

Legs.Eleven

Weather schmeather.

I would be bored by a predictable climate, and never have the delayed gratification of waking up to a dewy May morning, birds singing, flowers opening, scent of green warmth in the air, high as a kite at last.

I miss those things too. Depends what you're into; I love scorching hot weather and I'm used to it now at this stage. Love the fact that I'm looking outside now and the sun is streaming in to my flat and I know it will stay that way for the day. I feel better mentally tbh.

Lack of variation IS boring though and I miss looking up at the skies wondering how the day will turn out and I miss the chat about it with strangers too; that's something that's completely lacking here. People are total pussies here when it comes to bad weather and I find it very off-putting tbh.

I would also miss the unspoken stuff between people here; being able to read people and situations and just get it (I have four other languages, but I can't use words like my username in any of them).

This is something I definitely miss. Even after 5 years here, I still don't completely "get" them and that's very isolating sometimes.


Right, I'm moving home. Get the tea on!

keith16

I don't see myself in Ireland long-term unfortunately.

burtslimpslon

I want to finish school, go to college and move to america. Im sick of ireland already.

Tarzana

Rosy Posy wrote: »

Have you ever lived somewhere that's consistently dry and warm? Where you can plan to do outdoor stuff regularly and in advance? It makes a massive difference when you've got kids. Irish weather may not be extreme but it's very often damp!

It'd be nice to have more guaranteed dry, warm weather in the summer. But my ideal for summer even would be two days heavy rain per week to five warm, sunny days. Droughts are no fun, and we rarely have water shortages in this country, for which I am very grateful. Some of us enjoy variety. In addition, I actually prefer exercising outdoors in our winter. Much more refreshing, as you don't overheat.

miles_away

RobertKK wrote: »

Only on holiday.

Damp is better than drought. I own a farm, that business is ruled by the weather.
Regular rain and not months of no rain is what keeps us green, and helps the economy. Temperatures never get too extreme.
The country would fall apart if consistently warm and dry - water rationing and if too cold like 2010 - water rationing
We have one of the best climates for our latitude.
We are lucky with our weather, even if it is a bit miserable today.

ireland is one of the few countries where too much rain is an issue for farmers a lot of the time

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

I hate Ireland and Irish people less than any other place in the world. I love Irish women too.

****ing hell I'm drunk.

osarusan

I would like it to be my future, and so would my wife, who is not Irish but is very keen to move back there again. She found life much less stressful in Ireland than she finds it in Japan.

Whether or not I can find the kind of job worth moving for, is another question though.

Tuathanach

The Celtic Tiger, in my opinion, ruined Ireland more so than just financially.

I grew up to Irish parents in the UK (Scotland) and then made the move back to Ireland a few years ago for work believe it or not (Ireland is one of the few countries which has work in my line of work!). As a young one I remember a different Ireland - without painting a whole rosy picture, there was a sense of community - there was a level of poverty which was communal - people were in the same boat and that ultimately made identity and Ireland as one (in my opinion). Of course, that statement is very general but I believe it's true. The Celtic Tiger, when people had a few bob in their pockets, led people to believe they were worth more and brought about a huge level of greed - buying multiple properties and treating yourself like royalty which in turn has made this a nation of money-obsessed, middle-class snobs with the new class of people ''judging places by their owner-occupied'' statistics. I feel completely disconnected with the Irish of today and their sense of ''I deserve this and that and this and that''.

I see myself staying in Ireland because i truly love this country but I do hate what has become of people particularly in Urban areas. We need to, as a country, get over the Celtic Tiger and the 3-storey houses and get back to our communities, simplicity and building a country which can stand on its own two feet again as opposed to being subject to America. I work in a multi-national and I realise that by saying this, I am effectively referring to my source of income, but the truth be told - if America leave Ireland tomorrow - this country warps itself back to the 50s and 60s and for those old enough - just try and visualise your house in Malahide with eating out 3 times per week back then.

Sorry for the rant - went a bit off topic but hey. Yes, I see myself here - I just hope it changes.

Aongus Von Bismarck

I've been living in Germany now for quite a while.

I still maintain an interest in Ireland, but I really can't see myself heading home any time soon.

The food, weather, culture and people are just much more appealing here. You don't get the same levels of small-mindedness that is prevalent at home. People are much more civic minded here, and everyone buys into the system, and the country functions all the better for it.

One thing I definitely don't miss is the drinking at home. Its much more common to meet up and eat a delicious meal and maybe have one or two drinks here, compared with the majority of people who just go out and get absolutely sloshed every single weekend in Ireland.

4zn76tysfajdxp

Tuathanach wrote: »

The Celtic Tiger, in my opinion, ruined Ireland more so than just financially.

Tuathanach wrote: »

The Celtic Tiger, when people had a few bob in their pockets, led people to believe they were worth more and brought about a huge level of greed

Tuathanach wrote: »

We need to, as a country, get over the Celtic Tiger

But... you keep bringing it up!

Tuathanach

Skylar Lazy Sin wrote: »

But... you keep bringing it up!

Because it's so ingrained in our brains!! Arrrghh!!!

Tarzana

Muise... wrote: »

Weather schmeather.

I would be bored by a predictable climate, and never have the delayed gratification of waking up to a dewy May morning, birds singing, flowers opening, scent of green warmth in the air, high as a kite at last.

I would also miss the unspoken stuff between people here; being able to read people and situations and just get it (I have four other languages, but I can't use words like my username in any of them).

OM fcking G, is THAT how you spell it? :-D I'm terrible at irish so would always go with 'musha'.

The Backwards Man

Ireland is not as bad as some people would have you believe and it is not as good as others would have you believe.

It'll do me anyway.

Grandeeod

Tuathanach wrote: »

The Celtic Tiger, in my opinion, ruined Ireland more so than just financially.

I grew up to Irish parents in the UK (Scotland) and then made the move back to Ireland a few years ago for work believe it or not (Ireland is one of the few countries which has work in my line of work!). As a young one I remember a different Ireland - without painting a whole rosy picture, there was a sense of community - there was a level of poverty which was communal - people were in the same boat and that ultimately made identity and Ireland as one (in my opinion). Of course, that statement is very general but I believe it's true. The Celtic Tiger, when people had a few bob in their pockets, led people to believe they were worth more and brought about a huge level of greed - buying multiple properties and treating yourself like royalty which in turn has made this a nation of money-obsessed, middle-class snobs with the new class of people ''judging places by their owner-occupied'' statistics. I feel completely disconnected with the Irish of today and their sense of ''I deserve this and that and this and that''.

I see myself staying in Ireland because i truly love this country but I do hate what has become of people particularly in Urban areas. We need to, as a country, get over the Celtic Tiger and the 3-storey houses and get back to our communities, simplicity and building a country which can stand on its own two feet again as opposed to being subject to America. I work in a multi-national and I realise that by saying this, I am effectively referring to my source of income, but the truth be told - if America leave Ireland tomorrow - this country warps itself back to the 50s and 60s and for those old enough - just try and visualise your house in Malahide with eating out 3 times per week back then.

Sorry for the rant - went a bit off topic but hey. Yes, I see myself here - I just hope it changes.

I concur. So I'll stay where I am.

Tuathanach

Grandeeod wrote: »

I concur. So I'll stay where I am.

Pheewww! Sanity!

therealme

Think I'm too old to leave now.

I am in Waterford for the weekend - I have just looked out at about 20 travellers and their horses race on the main road - I have been told the Dunmore Road is the "better" side of town.....right now I would settle gor getting out of the county!!!

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Tuathanach wrote: »

The Celtic Tiger, in my opinion, ruined Ireland more so than just financially.

I grew up to Irish parents in the UK (Scotland) and then made the move back to Ireland a few years ago for work believe it or not (Ireland is one of the few countries which has work in my line of work!). As a young one I remember a different Ireland - without painting a whole rosy picture, there was a sense of community - there was a level of poverty which was communal - people were in the same boat and that ultimately made identity and Ireland as one (in my opinion). Of course, that statement is very general but I believe it's true. The Celtic Tiger, when people had a few bob in their pockets, led people to believe they were worth more and brought about a huge level of greed - buying multiple properties and treating yourself like royalty which in turn has made this a nation of money-obsessed, middle-class snobs with the new class of people ''judging places by their owner-occupied'' statistics. I feel completely disconnected with the Irish of today and their sense of ''I deserve this and that and this and that''.

I see myself staying in Ireland because i truly love this country but I do hate what has become of people particularly in Urban areas. We need to, as a country, get over the Celtic Tiger and the 3-storey houses and get back to our communities, simplicity and building a country which can stand on its own two feet again as opposed to being subject to America. I work in a multi-national and I realise that by saying this, I am effectively referring to my source of income, but the truth be told - if America leave Ireland tomorrow - this country warps itself back to the 50s and 60s and for those old enough - just try and visualise your house in Malahide with eating out 3 times per week back then.

Sorry for the rant - went a bit off topic but hey. Yes, I see myself here - I just hope it changes.

I can understand the general point you're trying to make but 1950's Ireland was a grim enough place. Yes, times were simpler, and peoples sense of community was stronger but today's Ireland still has elements of this and we have a lot less hardship and poverty.

Maybe a small bit pointless but Irish people are among the heaviest texters in the world, our sense of community maybe diminished, and has changed/morphed over time but it most certainly still is there in some respects.

kowloon

Muise... wrote: »

Weather schmeather.
I would be bored by a predictable climate, and never have the delayed gratification of waking up to a dewy May morning, birds singing, flowers opening, scent of green warmth in the air, high as a kite at last.

I'd miss the wildlife for sure, I like watching the bats coming back in to roost and then the rest of the flying things getting their morning song into gear. I'm also trying to train a pair of magpies. For some of the most cautious birds around they're getting to trust me much more.

beano345

Don't think I'll stay in Ireland I seem to follow the same routine ie: go travelling come home get sick of it within a year and make plans to take off again.heading to south east Asia next year I just love the madness and chaos of life down there.

The Irish mentality never really appealed to me after spending 18 months in Toronto they seem to bring small town Ireland to big city Toronto,if they're not sniping at you from being from Dublin its someone from the next county over,if not them its someone from the next town over from them, such narrow mindedness

jimmurt

Heatmachine1 wrote: »

Has living abroad before made it harder for you to settle back in Ireland.
Im back a few years now,was away for 9yrs previous different parts of the globe some great others average,I find it very hard to see Ireland as the place I want to live out my future in.
Ireland has many great things but I just feel bored here with my surroundings,weather is a big one but it kind of feels like old socks living back here.
Anyone else have that yearning to move to another country and set up again.
Im planning to venture on in 2-3yrs and need that time to put things in place to avoid us having to return snd allow a journey to continue.
just wondering does anyobe else feel restless here

Yes, I'm pretty similar and altho I love Ireland I've never seen myself here long term. I've lived abroad twice with work and I'm about to go again.

Weather is a massive factor. I lived in California before and loved being able to do outdoor activities most weekends of the year. Also it's just good for the mood in general.

MRnotlob606

Tail Docker wrote: »

Have you tried escaping when they are not looking?

They've got two heads