Incest in Ireland.

WhiteWalls

People may or may not have been watching the Late Late show there. Woman on who was the product of a sexual relationship between her brother and sister. I always thought that a child born out of incest would be severely disabled. Has or does it go on much in this country?

WhiteWalls

It must also be said that the woman in question seemed to be a very nice lady who now has a family of her own.

LoonyLovegood

The child would only be disabled if there was an illness that ran in the family. Often a child born out of an incestuous relationship is totally normal.

Historically you would have had people marrying cousins or second cousins. It's one of the reasons we've the highest cystic fibrosis rates in the world, because we're genetically inbred.

kneemos

WhiteWalls wrote: »

People may or may not have been watching the Late Late show there. Woman on who was the product of a sexual relationship between her brother and sister. I always thought that a child born out of incest would be severely disabled. Has or does it go on much in this country?

Surveys are inconclusive I imagine.

Holsten

Impossible to know how much it happens since reporting would be close to 0 unless it was rape.

Consensual sexual activity between siblings in Ireland? I'm sure it has, does and will continue to happen all over the country.

Hotale.com

I think about 10% of children of incest have some form of illness due to the close relation of parents..

I actually think it's more likely that they'll have an illness/disability if their parents are 1st or 2nd cousins than siblings.

LETHAL LADY

A woman in my home town had a child by her father, conceived when she was a young teen. The story came out years later and was covered up at the time by saying she had slept around. The child is deaf but other than that is perfectly healthy.

dxhound2005

CTYIgirl wrote: »

The child would only be disabled if there was an illness that ran in the family. Often a child born out of an incestuous relationship is totally normal.

Historically you would have had people marrying cousins or second cousins. It's one of the reasons we've the highest cystic fibrosis rates in the world, because we're genetically inbred.

We're not as inbred as some other communities.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-23183102

Of 5,127 babies of Pakistani origin, 37% had married parents who were first cousins, compared to less than 1% of married couples nationally.

It is estimated that, worldwide, more than a billion people live in communities where marriage between blood relatives is commonplace.

Sir Arthur Daley

CTYIgirl wrote: »

Historically you would have had people marrying cousins or second cousins. It's one of the reasons we've the highest cystic fibrosis rates in the world, because we're genetically inbred.

Is it true that the chances are higher of having cystic fibrosis if having a child with a second cousin more that a first cousin?

_Redzer_

Female Joffrey!!

We need her gone!

SEPT 23 1989

My name is URL

Jaysus, they put auld shite on the Late Late Show these days. Does your one have a book out or something?

_Redzer_

Hotale.com wrote: »

I think about 10% of children of incest have some form of illness due to the close relation of parents..

I actually think it's more likely that they'll have an illness/disability if their parents are 1st or 2nd cousins than siblings.

That's not true. If you have a mutation in your genes for a disease, your sibling is far more likely to have the same mutation in order for it to be present in the child than your cousin would be, because there is a higher variation in their genes in comparison to yours.

thelad95

I'd imagine a lot of it went on in early to mid 20th century Ireland.

Think about it, ignorant, uneducated kids growing up in tenements with little or other interaction with people outside their home. Things were bound to get weird....

Without stereotyping, a lot of it apparently goes on in the travelling community. There was a guy who was in

WhiteWalls

My name is URL wrote: »

Jaysus, they put auld shite on the Late Late Show these days. Does your one have a book out or something?

Dunno did Tubs say its out or coming out and he mentioned a film as well

thelad95

I'd imagine a lot took place in Ireland in the early to mid 20th century.

Think about it, two hormonal, uneducated, ignorant teens with little or no outside interaction, living in cramped conditions. Things probably did get a bit... weird from time to time.

Apparently a lot of it goes on in the travelling community but that's a very sweeping generalisation.

FiachDubh

My mother's parents are first cousins, so she's inbred I suppose along with my aunts and uncles.
The thing is though all children that came from my maternal grandparents are hale, alive and well (13 children)
My uncles are of a tall strong stature and my aunts are tall and slim, except for one who's dumpy.

When my grandparents got together there was uproar in the family apparently, with a couple of members disowning my grandparents and resulting generations. Pricks.

I used to feel weird about it but then i read Game of Thrones haha, as stupid as it sounds that made me more accepting twords it.
Of course it has nothing much to do with me, its my Mother's business

DEFTLEFTHAND

Remote areas of the Slieve Blooms on the Clonaslee side.

ElleEm

The concept of incest makes me feel a bit sick.

Muise...

CTYIgirl wrote: »

The child would only be disabled if there was an illness that ran in the family. Often a child born out of an incestuous relationship is totally normal.

Historically you would have had people marrying cousins or second cousins. It's one of the reasons we've the highest cystic fibrosis rates in the world, because we're genetically inbred.

Not so much as to cause serious trouble. The traditional lack of birth control, and genetic and in utero testing has a lot to do with it too.

LETHAL LADY

Jaysus tis far more prevalent than that imo. Off the top of my head I can think of a number of incest cases and a few first cousins married in my area and I don't live up some mountain where we all play banjos.

kneemos

thelad95 wrote: »

I'd imagine a lot took place in Ireland in the early to mid 20th century.

Think about it, two hormonal, uneducated, ignorant teens with little or no outside interaction, living in cramped conditions. Things probably did get a bit... weird from time to time.

Apparently a lot of it goes on in the travelling community but that's a very sweeping generalisation.

Only for the invention of the motor car we'd all have a hunched back and one eye by now.

WhiteWalls

WhiteWalls wrote: »

People may or may not have been watching the Late Late show there. Woman on who was the product of a sexual relationship between her brother and sister.

We have to take it, therefore, that her brother and sister had a sexual relationship.

What did their parents think?

Surely if they are her brother and sister, their parents must also be her parents.

Since she can't have two mammies and two daddies, does this mean that her brother and sister are their own parents?

Does this also mean she's her own aunt?

BrokenArrows

It only becomes an issue when the family has something wrong in their DNA. When a non incestuous child is born the other persons DNA makes up for the flaw but where two people with the same DNA problem have a child then the problem can be compounded causing a disability.
So its not guaranteed there will be a problem but it vastly increases the chance.

BrokenArrows

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We have to take it, therefore, that her brother and sister had a sexual relationship.

What did their parents think?

Surely if they are her brother and sister, their parents must also be her parents.

Since she can't have two mammies and two daddies, does this mean that her brother and sister are their own parents?

Does this also mean she's her own aunt?

I think you're mixing up incest with time travel incest!

Sparks43

Incest a game the whole family can play

sabat

thelad95 wrote: »

Apparently a lot of it goes on in the travelling community but that's a very sweeping generalisation.

Not a generalisation at all-40% of traveller marriages are between first cousins.

BrokenArrows

BrokenArrows wrote: »

I think you're mixing up incest with time travel incest!

I think I'm just tired and not reading the OP correctly.

The OP said:

WhiteWalls wrote: »

Woman on who was the product of a sexual relationship between her brother and sister.

To me, these words mean that the woman was the offspring (product of a sexual relationship) between two people - named in the OP's post as her brother and sister.

Am I reading this wrong?

My name is URL

Deleted User wrote: »

We have to take it, therefore, that her brother and sister had a sexual relationship.

What did their parents think?

Surely if they are her brother and sister, their parents must also be her parents.

Since she can't have two mammies and two daddies, does this mean that her brother and sister are their own parents?

Does this also mean she's her own aunt?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlJH81dSiw

kneemos

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think I'm just tired and not reading the OP correctly.

The OP said:



To me, these words mean that the woman was the offspring (product of a sexual relationship) between two people - named in the OP's post as her brother and sister.

Am I reading this wrong?

She'd have to already exist to have a brother and sister.

Too Tough To Die

The country was built on incest.