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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    This again :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    Im thankful every day that passes that I wasn't born anywhere on that entire continent.

    Fcuked - nuke it, its the kindest option for all of us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭NordieSteve


    Yet feminists are worried about being called "miss".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Shock news as backwards people are backwards


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Im thankful every day that passes that I wasn't born anywhere on that entire continent.

    Fcuked - nuke it, its the kindest option for all of us.

    And the millions of innocent people who live there?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Yet feminists are worried about being called "miss".

    and someone on AH adds two shock stories together and comes up with half a conclusion...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 782 ✭✭✭Reiver


    What a crapfest of a continent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,387 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Yet feminists are worried about being called "miss".

    What's that got to do with anything? Sir.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,068 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    "It's not only Sudan. In Saudi Arabia, in all the Muslim countries, it is not allowed at all for a Muslim to change his religion," Information Minister Ahmed Bilal Osman said earlier.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0515/617477-sudan-death-sentence/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The court in Khartoum also ordered she be given 100 lashes for committing "zena" - an Arabic word for illegitimate sex - for having sexual relations with a non-Muslim man.
    Racists, isn't that the word we use now for when someone doesn't like someone else's religion?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭jellyboy


    Love Conquers all….














    But not in any religion that preaches love


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭jellyboy


    Birneybau wrote: »
    What's that got to do with anything? Sir.

    Bigger picture ,more than a name/tag/label to campaign about?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭NordieSteve


    Muise... wrote: »
    and someone on AH adds two shock stories together and comes up with half a conclusion...

    Just an observation. Feminists (along with the rest of the civilised world) should be protesting and making this a key issue within their little group.

    Instead the permanently premenstrual patrol are looking at the broader issues...such as being called sir.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Axe grinders unite!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Hitchens wrote: »
    "It's not only Sudan. In Saudi Arabia, in all the Muslim countries, it is not allowed at all for a Muslim to change his religion," Information Minister Ahmed Bilal Osman said earlier.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0515/617477-sudan-death-sentence/

    I am pretty sure Apostasy in those cultures involves publicly announcing your conversion/denouncing Islam. Keep it quiet and you'll be fine. I'm sure there are plenty of people who live there who have left religion/converted long ago.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yet feminists are worried about being called "miss".

    I often forget that people can only care about one thing at a time.

    Silly me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    A cartoon gets drawn, Islamic world up in arms and worldwide protests.

    Girls get kidnapped in the name of Islam and Muslim woman sentenced to death over the 'crime' of apostasy. Not a whimper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Just an observation. Feminists (along with the rest of the civilised world) should be protesting and making this a key issue within their little group.

    Instead the permanently premenstrual patrol are looking at the broader issues...such as being called sir.
    A little less of the casual sexism, please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    iDave wrote: »
    A cartoon gets drawn, Islamic world up in arms and worldwide protests.

    Girls get kidnapped in the name of Islam and Muslim woman sentenced to death over the 'crime' of apostasy. Not a whimper.

    There's currently worldwide protests about the kidnapped girls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,760 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    iDave wrote: »

    Girls get kidnapped in the name of Islam... Not a whimper.

    You can't be serious.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 978 ✭✭✭Fudge You


    Candie wrote: »
    I often forget that people can only care about one thing at a time.

    Silly me.

    No no, care about as many things as you like, but the poster is asking why some people care about something non important.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fudge You wrote: »
    No no, care about as many things as you like, but the poster is asking why some people care about something non important.

    The great thing about people is we're all different. You might think that GAA or soccer or Game of Thrones is important to you, but even though they aren't important to me, I'm not going to tell you they shouldn't be important to you, because we're different people.

    Some teachers might prefer not to be called Miss, I don't think I'd care but then again, I'm not going to tell anyone else what they should think is important.

    It's a great way to live.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 978 ✭✭✭Fudge You


    Candie wrote: »
    The great thing about people is we're all different. You might think that GAA or soccer or Game of Thrones is important to you, but even though they aren't important to me, I'm not going to tell you they shouldn't be important to you, because we're different people.

    Some teachers might prefer not to be called Miss, I don't think I'd care but then again, I'm not going to tell anyone else what they should think is important.

    It's a great way to live.

    Obviously everyone is different. Thats not what nordieSteve was saying.

    But do you think that being addressed as Miss is more important than this woman in the op in Sudan?
    Thats what the poster was saying.

    Im off to the miss/sir thread to sort things out. Chat soon!


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fudge You wrote: »
    But do you think that being addressed as Miss is more important than this woman in the op in Sudan?
    Thats what the poster was saying.

    No, I think it has absolutely nothing to do with the woman in Sudan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,619 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    All out economic warfare would keep them in line if everyone else played ball. But we love their delicious oil so much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Let's play with this dopey 'logic'.
    Just an observation. Feminists (along with the rest of the civilised world) should be protesting and making this a key issue within their little group.

    Shouldn't it be men protesting because it was men who kidnapped women?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭Wazdakka


    More religious based nonsense that leads to people suffering...

    *Sigh*

    When will all those religious lunatics that believe in "Only one god" learn?

    They're giving the rest of the more harmless religious lunatics a bad name..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭blaze1


    Lets be honest, if it wasn't religion, people would still find a way not to co-exsist. Twats the lot of us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭NordieSteve


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    Let's play with this dopey 'logic'.



    Shouldn't it be men protesting because it was men who kidnapped women?


    Read my other post again, now here it is in nice big boldy letters so you can understand mmmk?
    Feminists (along with the rest of the civilised world) should be protesting

    There ye go. Now go have your ribena and kinder egg and play with your friends.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 PND


    humanji wrote: »
    There's currently worldwide protests about the kidnapped girls.

    If you can even call it protesting, mostly just Facebook/twitter slacktivism. Those poor girls are as good as gone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Now go have your ribena and kinder egg and play with your friends.

    Why single out feminists then?

    I was always told to be wary of strange men offering sweets. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    I am pretty sure Apostasy in those cultures involves publicly announcing your conversion/denouncing Islam. Keep it quiet and you'll be fine. I'm sure there are plenty of people who live there who have left religion/converted long ago.

    Well that's just brilliant. If she kept her mouth shut she wouldn't be facing a stupid needless death penalty and lashing! Dumb bitch! :rolleyes: Death for apotasy is a barbaric act and people shouldn't have to curtail their rights and expressions to remain alive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Well that's just brilliant. If she kept her mouth shut she wouldn't be facing a stupid needless death penalty and lashing! Dumb bitch! :rolleyes: Death for apotasy is a barbaric act and people shouldn't have to curtail their rights and expressions to remain alive.


    I don't disagree with you, but it helps to get the facts on the table before we start throwing ideas around such as nuking entire countries. There are plenty of innocent people going about their business who don't need to be tarred with the "extremist barbarian" brush.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    I don't disagree with you, but it helps to get the facts on the table before we start throwing ideas around such as nuking entire countries. There are plenty of innocent people going about their business who don't need to be tarred with the "extremist barbarian" brush.

    Anyone who supports the death penalty for apostasy is an extremist barbarian.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Just a whole lot of stupid assumptions. Nothing to see here… move along.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    mad muffin wrote: »
    I think all religion should be band except Buddhism.

    I don't think anyone has been killed in the name of Buddhism. They won't shun you or judge you. Anyone can be a Buddhist without much fuss.

    If I believed in religion I'd be a Buddhist. Except I wouldn't be able to as I,love my meat :pac:
    0ver the past year in Buddhist-majority Burma, scores, if not hundreds, have been killed in communal clashes, with Muslims suffering the most casualties. Burmese monks were seen goading on Buddhist mobs, while some suspect the authorities of having stoked the violence — a charge the country’s new quasi-civilian government denies. In Sri Lanka, where a conservative, pro-Buddhist government reigns, Buddhist nationalist groups are operating with apparent impunity, looting Muslim and Christian establishments and calling for restrictions to be placed on the 9% of the country that is Muslim. Meanwhile in Thailand’s deep south, where a Muslim insurgency has claimed some 5,000 lives since 2004, desperate Buddhist clerics are retreating into their temples with Thai soldiers at their side. Their fear is understandable. But the close relationship between temple and state is further dividing this already anxious region.

    Source.

    Dickheads and their rules exist in all cultures and guises.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Dickheads and their rules exist in all cultures and guises.

    I take it back.

    I don't want to live on this planet anymore :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    PND wrote: »
    If you can even call it protesting, mostly just Facebook/twitter slacktivism. Those poor girls are as good as gone.

    But Michelle Obama held up a piece of paper with something written on it!

    Surely these Boko Haram guys will see this when they are checking their Twitter feeds and they'll deliver the kidnapped girls back to their families!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭Degringola


    Turtwig,
    we're all human, and we all have our faults and can be prone to violence, but if you look around the world at the various conflicts, there is very frequently, not always of course, a common denominator. And it's not the Buddhists. But joining the dots is frowned on. Everything must be taken on individual basis, we're not allowed to see patterns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    I am pretty sure Apostasy in those cultures involves publicly announcing your conversion/denouncing Islam. Keep it quiet and you'll be fine. I'm sure there are plenty of people who live there who have left religion/converted long ago.

    Ah well that's ok then. They only need to keep quiet and not publicly announce anywhere, like the church belonging to another religion where they are getting married or anywhere like that. Sure those sort of laws are perfectly reasonable since they only pertain to 'publicly' announcing that you have disassociated with said religion. :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭kingchess


    and some catholic priests were involved in the rwanda killings,just because you are a man of god does not mean you are a good man,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Shock news as backwards people are backwards

    Well, Jesus Mary and Joseph! It's an unholy mess! For God's sake! As the Spanish say, me cago en Dios! Jesus feckin' Christ!










    Waits to be arrested under the Irish blasphemy laws, which were first made law ONLY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. So who is backwards? We didn't have blasphemy laws before that. Who wanted them? But the politicians brought them in anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 yosserhughes


    Religion! The root of ALL evil............


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Anyone who defends Sharia Law can go fúck themselves.

    And I don't care if I upset the precious readily offended brigade by saying that.


    Religion of peace, my hole.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lapin wrote: »
    Anyone who defends Sharia Law can go fúck themselves.

    And I don't care if I upset the precious readily offended brigade by saying that.


    Religion of peace, my hole.

    Are you trying to say that people leap to defend Sharia (as separate from Muslims) here?

    Because I haven't seen it.

    Not all Muslims defend all aspects of Sharia either, there are moderates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,068 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    Candie wrote: »

    Not all Muslims defend all aspects of Sharia either, there are moderates.

    Salman Rushdie


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Candie wrote: »
    Are you trying to say that people leap to defend Sharia (as separate from Muslims) here?

    Because I haven't seen it.

    Maybe you haven't seen it here, but there is a sizable islamic lobby just across the water aiming to have Sharia Law enshrined as the abiding code of conduct over there.

    Fúck that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    I'd say the only people who defend sharia are people who benefit from it or are brainwashed into believing it's good.

    When someone said there isn't a peep in relation to the girls in Nigeria, I think they meant there isn't a peep of condemnation from key Islamic figures. I'm sure there is, but I gotta agree it doesn't seem to be very high-profile.
    Just an observation. Feminists (along with the rest of the civilised world) should be protesting and making this a key issue within their little group.

    Instead the permanently premenstrual patrol are looking at the broader issues...such as being called sir.
    What on earth... A small number of loopers saying female teachers should be called sir = all feminists? And because of that small number of loopers, feminists are automatically not protesting about sharia when obviously plenty of feminists (and others) are? :confused:
    Fudge You wrote: »
    But do you think that being addressed as Miss is more important than this woman in the op in Sudan?
    Thats what the poster was saying.
    He was asking whether people think it's more important to call female teachers sir than sharia oppression? I don't think he was, but obviously nobody thinks calling female teachers sir is more important than sharia oppression.

    Again, because a few extremist feminists say female teachers should be called sir... that means feminists are not interested in the atrocities of sharia... is that what you and Steve are saying? Because if so... bizarro is not the word.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Im thankful every day that passes that I wasn't born anywhere on that entire continent.

    Fcuked - nuke it, its the kindest option for all of us.

    Good call.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    A very civilised bunch of people.


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