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DID Electrical treated me like dirt.

  • 13-05-2014 9:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭


    I recently had a terrible experience in the Galway branch of DID Electrical, at the hands of a staff member who identified himself as <SNIP>. I was treated like <SNIP> in front of my Wife, other customers and staff in a manner so shocking it defies belief. I've never been so humiliated in all my life and all my efforts to receive a simple apology have come to nothing, adding further insult to injury. Read on, I'll bet you've never come across a story like this before, and I hope it never happens to you.

    I'm in my mid-fifties and retired from work on grounds of ill-health. All my Wife and I have to live on is my miserly pension of €250 per week so you can appreciate that we're on the breadline. We went to DID Electrical Galway to buy a much-needed microwave that cost €54.99.

    When I went to pay I found I was 67 cents short of the asking price. I asked for their best possible price, hoping I'd be able to afford it, but no discount was offered. With a smile on my face and being very polite, I handed over the money I had and tried to negotiate a discount of 67 cents so that I could buy that microwave that we'd chosen. The <SNIP> responded in an aggressive manner and no matter how politely and calmly I tried to negotiate, even communicate, with him he wasn't having any of it. I could hardly get a word in but he was able to say such things to me as:
    "You have no right to come into an electrical retailer looking for a discount"
    "You should choose a cheaper microwave, one you can afford"

    Those comments in themselves seem harmless but you'd have to be there to see how he deliberately tried to demean me in front of others. His voice was sneering and his body-language was intolerant at best and aggressive at worst. Throughout our exchange he made other comments that may seem innocent on paper but were actually derogatory and sarcastic in the manner in which they were spoken.

    When he said that neither he nor the shop were charities I gave up at that stage and turned to walk away.
    He then said out loudly for all to hear that he'd pay the 67 cents out of his own pocket and then he made a big show of taking some coins from his pocket and threw them noisily into the till, all the time repeating that he's paying my bill.
    Several customers and staff members witnessed this disgraceful behaviour by <SNIP>and his treatment of us. My Wife and I were absolutely mortified. I thanked him and took the microwave and left the shop, too intimidated and humiliated to ask for a receipt.

    I contacted the head office of DID Electrical and reported what had occured. I received a phone call from their customer services manager, <SNIP>, and she apologised for the way I'd been treated. She asked me to leave the matter with her and she'd ensure my complaint would be dealt with. After three months I'd heard nothing from her so I emailed the company and expressed my disappointment and disgust at the way they were treating me. I informed them that I'd paid the outstanding 67 cents and that I now wanted my receipt.

    I'm now in possession of the receipt but what I don't have is what I've wanted from the beginning, ie an apology from <SNIP> who unjustifiably treated me like dirt.

    Judging by the way his head office don't give a damn about the matter, is it any wonder that <SNIP> feels free to behave so disgracefully. Sure he's only following his bosses example.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,227 ✭✭✭Sam Mac


    The way <SNIP> treated you sounds disgraceful. If I were you I would keep on ringing head office until you get a full apology and a satisfactory response, in person from <SNIP> However, I will say that you shouldn't have expected or asked for a discount. (however I completely understand why, it has happened to me before too but I find most stores won't budge on their set prices)

    Good luck and I hope you get your much needed apology. <SNIP> sounds like a right <SNIP>.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    This might sound incredibly harsh, but if you knew it was 54.99 why did you go in short?

    If I'm buying something I make sure I have the money for it.

    By going in short, and then not being able to pay, you set yourself up to an extent.

    I'd never let myself be in that situation I'd just say I didn't want to purchase.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭iusedtoknow


    I don't know what else you want from them - they (the company) apologised. I know you want a personal one from <SNIP> but it is unlikely to happen.

    In reality, you were also in the wrong for coming up short. Yes it was only 67 cent and so not a lot to let you off of, but if it was only that much, you could also have come up with it.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    I don't know what else you want from them - they (the company) apologised. I know you want a personal one from <SNIP>, but it is unlikely to happen.

    In reality, you were also in the wrong for coming up short. Yes it was only 67 cent and so not a lot to let you off of, but if it was only that much, you could also have come up with it.

    I can understand how someone on a low income (I've been there) could be short unexpectedly

    However I'd check and double check rather than suffer that sort of experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭emo72


    as someone who works in retail, i would never pull up someone for being a few cents short like that. it would create a lot of bad will. pointless. nothing to be gained by making a big issue out of it, as can be witnessed by this thread. all the bad will created by pulling this customer up. think of the goodwill if he had of let him off with 67 cents.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭iusedtoknow


    and the questions he would have had to answered when his books came up short...

    I worked in a takeaway and would always have people wanting free this and that. If you do that too often, it would soon be noticed. Remember…<SNIP> is not the owner so has little or no leeway when it comes to these things.

    The OP was treated with out the respect you'd hope for, but I am still with <SNIP> stand on this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    If you feel that strongly, vote with your feet. I've always got good deals out of Harvey Norman and they're usually pretty good with discounts as well and very friendly.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    vibe666 wrote: »
    If you feel that strongly, vote with your feet. I've always got good deals out of Harvey Norman and they're usually pretty good with discounts as well and very friendly.

    This is what I do.

    I went into HN to buy a netbook for the OHs daughter a couple of years ago and this obnoxious salesperson tried to sell me norton av etc.

    When I told him I was going to use avg free, he started interrogating me on whether or not I had read the EULA (He actually used that term)

    When I explained to him that I had read the end user licence agreement and was fully aware it was free for personal use and not for business use, he then tried to convince me it was going to void my windows/machine warranty. My OH ended up telling him to quit as I work in IT and part of my role is licence management

    I left, and went in a few months later to price something else, and he was on sales duty, left without even engaging with him.

    Have always found our local DID in Swords superb to deal with, and am shocked at the behaviour described, but I'd not put myself in that position


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bagels


    Sam Mac wrote: »
    The way <SNIP> treated you sounds disgraceful. If I were you I would keep on ringing head office until you get a full apology and a satisfactory response, in person from <SNIP>. However, I will say that you shouldn't have expected or asked for a discount. (however I completely understand why, it has happened to me before too but I find most stores won't budge on their set prices)

    Good luck and I hope you get your much needed apology. The <SNIP> sounds like a right <SNIP>.

    Thank you for your comment.
    I had hoped <SNIP> would accept the money offered (perhaps I had a cheek to do so). Alternatively I thought he might let me take the microwave and allow me to pay the remaining 67 cents at a later date but I couldn't get a word in to even suggest that. I certainly didn't anticipate the reaction I got from him.
    I don't think phoning the head office will move them to do the right thing. Email correspondence acknowledges they've failed to deal with my complaint in a 'superior' manner but doesn't admit any wrongdoing and suggests they have no intention of doing anything further about the matter.
    If I can alert some people about DID's attitude to a customer then I'll content myself with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭masonchat


    @R to be fair, i always pay full asking price for everything like a MUG like most irish people do,

    I have a polish friend and i dont think he has paid asking price for a thing in his life, if he got a fine, he would haggle it and get it too.

    You would be amazed at the discounts he gets and i know for a fact if i tried the same thing in the same shop id be told to jog on :confused:

    EDIT i think foreigners expect discounts and get them where as we are way too polite to haggle effectively


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    I think you have to be a certain kind of person to get away with that, but you can do a good impersonation by leaving your wallet in the car before you start to haggle so HAVE to leave the shop before you purchase.

    Don't come out and say that though, find a sales guy on the shop floor and do a bit of haggling and ask for their best price, then just say you're going to think about it and come back, which in sales terms means "you're just about to let a sale walk out the door".

    If he won't go lower to keep you in the shop, that probably IS his best price. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bagels


    Stheno wrote: »
    This might sound incredibly harsh, but if you knew it was 54.99 why did you go in short?

    If I'm buying something I make sure I have the money for it.

    By going in short, and then not being able to pay, you set yourself up to an extent.

    I'd never let myself be in that situation I'd just say I didn't want to purchase.

    Thank you for your comment.
    I didn't deliberately go in short. It was only when I counted my money at the checkout desk that I discovered I hadn't enough. I asked my Wife for the balance but she didn't even have a cent.
    I wanted to tell <SNIP> to keep his microwave and his fake generosity but beggars can't be choosers, as the old saying goes.
    Aside from pointing out my failings, do you think it was ok for <SNIP> to treat me in the way he did?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    bagels wrote: »
    Thank you for your comment.
    I didn't deliberately go in short. It was only when I counted my money at the checkout desk that I discovered I hadn't enough. I asked my Wife for the balance but she didn't even have a cent.
    I wanted to tell <SNIP> to keep his microwave and his fake generosity but beggars can't be choosers, as the old saying goes.
    Aside from pointing out my failings, do you think it was ok for <SNIP> to treat me in the way he did?

    No I don't as I've already said.

    I'd avoid such situations by simply declining to purchase and saying I didn't realise the price and say sorry, next time.

    I'm terribly cautious though buying stuff, I was after a laminator recently, so went out pricing them priced argos online, then checked HN and Currys, in both they were more than twice the price, I felt embarrassed saying I had found cheaper elsewhere but they took it well

    Just don't shop there again, like I refuse to engage with that idiot in HN (who heard all about this guy, but gets email if I get good service in other areas there and passes them on)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 jmtc8


    @OP, I was intending to go to the DID Galway store tomorrow but after reading your account I will definitely be going elsewhere. <SNIP> sounds like a very cheap, nasty man whose <SNIP> position has gone slightly to his head.

    You are completely right to insist on an apology from this person. He could so easily have said what he thought in the quiet and in a much more customer friendly manner but instead chose to mortify you in front of your wife and everybody else. Sounds like a right control nut. Its 0.67 cents for Gods sake. DID will have lost a lot of custom over 0.67 cents. Approximately €450 from me for starters.

    I hope you get what you are looking for and don't take his comments to heart. He obviously has something going on in his head.

    Best of luck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    I know from working retail, that if the till is short that the employee pays for the difference and not the company. I have had managers in the past giving out that the till is 50 cent short

    DID IMO are an excellent retailer. They Irish owned and competitive. In my local store there is very little staff turnover (unusual in retail, meaning their staff is happy). People have their days and unfortunately the employee lost it with you. There is plenty of times were I have wanted to lose it with an employee but didnt. The employee just needs to learn to kept their cool. I cant see DID being able to do anything better for you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bagels


    I don't know what else you want from them - they (the company) apologised. I know you want a personal one from <SNIP>, but it is unlikely to happen.

    In reality, you were also in the wrong for coming up short. Yes it was only 67 cent and so not a lot to let you off of, but if it was only that much, you could also have come up with it.

    Thank you for your comment.
    From my opening post: ".....what I don't have is what I've wanted from the beginning, ie an apology from <SNIP> who unjustifiably treated me like dirt".
    I'd have gladly paid the outstanding 67 cents at a later date but I was unable to make that offer because <SNIP> kept interrupting and speaking over me.
    What do you mean when you imply "but if it was only that much, (I) could also have come up with it"? You're not seriously suggesting that I willing endured that public humiliation in order to save 67 cents, are you?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Do you not see the company apologising as having a greater impact then <SNIP>?

    I complained in the past when I was subject to discrimination by an employee of a company I was interviewed by, to their HR director, said employee lost his job as a result.

    DID may change their procedures/investigate the employee as a result of your complaint?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭masonchat


    @ like that workin for them he doesnt sound very customer freindly, doing them more harm that good, i bet if you had a few hundred extra in your pocket that day you would have got a discount and not just 67 cent, but getting caught short as you did completely changed the dynamics , but he should never in a million years have treated you like that


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    masonchat wrote: »
    @ like that workin for them he doesnt sound very customer freindly, doing them more harm that good, i bet if you had a few hundred extra in your pocket that day you would have got a discount and not just 67 cent, but getting caught short as you did completely changed the dynamics , but he should never in a million years have treated you like that

    I've gone into HN to spend thirty and done deals which ended me spending 20 or less on stuff

    DID tend to be straight up and not open to negotiation unless you can prove a price point difference with a competitor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    vibe666 wrote: »
    I think you have to be a certain kind of person to get away with that, but you can do a good impersonation by leaving your wallet in the car before you start to haggle so HAVE to leave the shop before you purchase.

    Don't chime or and say that though, find a sales guy on the shop floor and do a bit of haggling and ask for their best price, then just say you're going to think about it and come back, which in sales terms means "you're just about to let a sale walk out the door".

    If he won't go lower to keep you in the shop, that probably IS his best price. :)

    I was in a different retailer looking for a TV stand a few years ago. Saw a display model which was perfect for my needs and priced at €120 reduced from €300 (yeah right). After a simple bit of haggling I walked out with it under my arm for a happy €95. I can understand a sales assistant not having discretion but for <SNIP> to decline a sale with a reasonable profit margin over a measly few cents is ridiculous and even worse to insult the customer in the process.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭masonchat


    hfallada wrote: »
    I know from working retail, that if the till is short that the employee pays for the difference and not the company. I have had managers in the past giving out that the till is 50 cent short

    DID IMO are an excellent retailer. They Irish owned and competitive. In my local store there is very little staff turnover (unusual in retail, meaning their staff is happy). People have their days and unfortunately the employee lost it with you. There is plenty of times were I have wanted to lose it with an employee but didnt. The employee just needs to learn to kept their cool. I cant see DID being able to do anything better for you


    To be honest if a little jumped up ****e peddling glorified rag n bone man allegedly lost his COOL with me like that , i think i may have lost my cool and lamped him one then he might think twice before thinking he has any right to treat anyone like that

    Its nice to be important, its more important to be nice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bagels


    Stheno wrote: »
    I can understand how someone on a low income (I've been there) could be short unexpectedly

    However I'd check and double check rather than suffer that sort of experience.

    Thank you for your comment.
    I believe I shouldn't have endured such an experience at the hands of <SNIP>. I was smiling and polite so he could easily have asked me to step to one side with him and quietly explained that he couldn't let the item out the door unless the full price is paid. I would have understood and appreciated his predicament. His loud belittling of me and his theatrical 'generosity' was totally demeaning and unnecessary.
    Nobody entering a shop expects to be treated in such a manner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    jmtc8 wrote: »
    You are completely right to insist on an apology from this person. He could so easily have said what he thought in the quiet and in a much more customer friendly manner but instead chose to mortify you in front of your wife and everybody else. Sounds like a right control nut. Its 0.67 cents for Gods sake. DID will have lost a lot of custom over 0.67 cents. Approximately €450 from me for starters.

    Posters - I'd like to remind you that we're only hearing one side of the story here, and that we should refrain from making assumptions about a person's behaviour.

    I've cleaned out all references to this individual's name and position as it's unfair to target someone in this manner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,188 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    It certainly sounds as though <SNIP> treated you rudely, I'm not disputing that, but I'd love if you would fill in a few blanks for me:

    a) Why do you want an apology? By the sound of things <SNIP> is fairly jumped up, and an apology forced by higher management will presumably be insincere, so do you think it will actually make you feel better, or that he will realise the error of his ways?

    b) Was the microwave you chose on special offer at the time? I work in retail and have come up against irate customers requesting/expecting an additional discount on already discounted items (which we can't issue, as it's against store policy)

    c) Why didn't you just come back another day with your 67c?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,062 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    I think this goes to show that people are individuals and some people should not be in customer facing roles.

    I actually find DID good (my local one is excellent) and the staff are lovely.

    Also, I also remember how helpful DID were in relation to the very sad case of Peggy Mangan and Casper and it made me actually want to put some business their way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭masonchat


    bagels wrote: »
    Thank you for your comment.
    I believe I shouldn't have endured such an experience at the hands of the <SNIP>. I was smiling and polite so he could easily have asked me to step to one side with him and quietly explained that he couldn't let the item out the door unless the full price is paid. I would have understood and appreciated his predicament. His loud belittling of me and his theatrical 'generosity' was totally demeaning and unnecessary.
    Nobody entering a shop expects to be treated in such a manner.

    i think i would have left said microwave seated softly over his head :D ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    @masonchat - we don't condone violence on Boards. Please post constructively.

    dudara


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    bagels wrote: »
    I recently had a terrible experience in the Galway branch of DID Electrical, at the hands of a staff member who identified himself as <SNIP>. I was treated like <SNIP> in front of my Wife, other customers and staff in a manner so shocking it defies belief. I've never been so humiliated in all my life and all my efforts to receive a simple apology have come to nothing, adding further insult to injury. Read on, I'll bet you've never come across a story like this before, and I hope it never happens to you.

    I'm in my mid-fifties and retired from work on grounds of ill-health. All my Wife and I have to live on is my miserly pension of €250 per week so you can appreciate that we're on the breadline. We went to DID Electrical Galway to buy a much-needed microwave that cost €54.99.

    When I went to pay I found I was 67 cents short of the asking price. I asked for their best possible price, hoping I'd be able to afford it, but no discount was offered. With a smile on my face and being very polite, I handed over the money I had and tried to negotiate a discount of 67 cents so that I could buy that microwave that we'd chosen. The <SNIP> responded in an aggressive manner and no matter how politely and calmly I tried to negotiate, even communicate, with him he wasn't having any of it. I could hardly get a word in but he was able to say such things to me as:
    "You have no right to come into an electrical retailer looking for a discount"
    "You should choose a cheaper microwave, one you can afford"

    Those comments in themselves seem harmless but you'd have to be there to see how he deliberately tried to demean me in front of others. His voice was sneering and his body-language was intolerant at best and aggressive at worst. Throughout our exchange he made other comments that may seem innocent on paper but were actually derogatory and sarcastic in the manner in which they were spoken.

    When he said that neither he nor the shop were charities I gave up at that stage and turned to walk away.
    He then said out loudly for all to hear that he'd pay the 67 cents out of his own pocket and then he made a big show of taking some coins from his pocket and threw them noisily into the till, all the time repeating that he's paying my bill.
    Several customers and staff members witnessed this disgraceful behaviour by <SNIP>and his treatment of us. My Wife and I were absolutely mortified. I thanked him and took the microwave and left the shop, too intimidated and humiliated to ask for a receipt.

    I contacted the head office of DID Electrical and reported what had occured. I received a phone call from their customer services manager, <SNIP>, and she apologised for the way I'd been treated. She asked me to leave the matter with her and she'd ensure my complaint would be dealt with. After three months I'd heard nothing from her so I emailed the company and expressed my disappointment and disgust at the way they were treating me. I informed them that I'd paid the outstanding 67 cents and that I now wanted my receipt.

    I'm now in possession of the receipt but what I don't have is what I've wanted from the beginning, ie an apology from <SNIP> who unjustifiably treated me like dirt.

    Judging by the way his head office don't give a damn about the matter, is it any wonder that <SNIP> feels free to behave so disgracefully. Sure he's only following his bosses example.

    You should have bought the microwave in white and saved yourself a lot of trouble.
    Virtually the exact same Thor model, only white, and cheaper at €49.99...... http://www.did.ie/microwaves/where/dir/asc/order/price


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bagels


    and the questions he would have had to answered when his books came up short...

    I worked in a takeaway and would always have people wanting free this and that. If you do that too often, it would soon be noticed. Remember…<SNIP> is not the owner so has little or no leeway when it comes to these things.

    The OP was treated with out the respect you'd hope for, but I am still with <SNIP> stand on this

    Thank you for your comment.
    It isn't the case that I "was treated without the respect (I'd) hoped for". I should have been treated with the respect I'm entitled to as a human being. Instead I was treated with the absence of any respect whatsoever.
    You state you're "still with the (staff member's) stand on this". Does this mean that you believe it was ok for the (staff member) to treat me so contemptuously and that you yourself would also treat a customer in the same disgraceful manner?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bagels


    vibe666 wrote: »
    If you feel that strongly, vote with your feet. I've always got good deals out of Harvey Norman and they're usually pretty good with discounts as well and very friendly.

    Thank you for your comment.
    I'll take your kind advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bagels


    jmtc8 wrote: »
    @OP, I was intending to go to the DID Galway store tomorrow but after reading your account I will definitely be going elsewhere. <SNIP> sounds like a very cheap, nasty man whose <SNIP> position has gone slightly to his head.

    You are completely right to insist on an apology from this person. He could so easily have said what he thought in the quiet and in a much more customer friendly manner but instead chose to mortify you in front of your wife and everybody else. Sounds like a right control nut. Its 0.67 cents for Gods sake. DID will have lost a lot of custom over 0.67 cents. Approximately €450 from me for starters.

    I hope you get what you are looking for and don't take his comments to heart. He obviously has something going on in his head.

    Best of luck

    Thank you for your comment.
    I respectfully suggest that you should go to DID Galway tomorrow and negotiate. If they're not playing ball you could then mention my situation, I'm sure they're all aware of it. If you can use it for bargaining power then please be my guest. Best of luck with the shopping and I hope you come away satisfied.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    been shopping with did for over 30 years and getting most of my gear locally and know all the staff and their humor,so i would think <SNIP> had a very bad day all round and should not acted that way to any customer or not,word gets around how bad they treat people will hurt D I D,one bad apple in the barrel affects all in the end so would have hoped you might have got an apology or something even vouchers to say how sorry this had effected you both.
    i do wish for a brighter future ahead for you both of you.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 ezopsae


    Pretty pathetic that someone deliberately goes into a store short of money. When they don't get what they want, they post online to damage the business as much as possible. The mind boggles at the entitlement attitude of some people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    bagels wrote: »
    We went to DID Electrical Galway to buy a much-needed microwave that cost €54.99.

    When I went to pay I found I was 67 cents short of the asking price.
    So you went in to buy a microwave that you knew was X price, but brought in Y amount of money? Having had to balance a till out of my own pocket int he past (before I knew my rights), I'm going to side with the person who sold you the microwave.

    Also, you may not do this often, but a few people, once they know they can haggle one item, generally try to haggle everything. I'm sure it's not the first time he heard your excuse, but I'd say after mortifying them, they don't try the same trick again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭lulu1


    I know it is hard living on your pension but if the assistant treated you so badly why on earth did you accept his money. You say you couldnt get a word in edgeways but you could have left the microwave on the counter and walked out leaving him look stupid and you with a bit of dignity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭masonchat


    the_syco wrote: »
    So you went in to buy a microwave that you knew was X price, but brought in Y amount of money? Having had to balance a till out of my own pocket int he past (before I knew my rights), I'm going to side with the person who sold you the microwave.

    Also, you may not do this often, but a few people, once they know they can haggle one item, generally try to haggle everything. I'm sure it's not the first time he heard your excuse, but I'd say after mortifying them, they don't try the same trick again.

    I wouldnt wish to be a sales person of any sort not an easy job id imagine, and i know some people could would drive jesus to drink but all <SNIP> had to do was say sorry that is the price, we have x model for so much if you'd like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,889 ✭✭✭cgarvey


    ezopsae wrote: »
    Pretty pathetic that someone deliberately goes into a store short of money.

    What compassion!

    The reaction of the staff member doesn't sound like it was proportionate to the circumstances that saw the poor lad needing a 1.2% discount. They'd have made less money off him if he paid full price on a credit card, for example.

    Judging by the strength of your comment, you're not a fan of proportionate responses, anyway!

    I think it's fair to say (judging by the OP's reasoned and well-spoken description, only, obviously) that this case would be noticeably different (to staff members) than someone chancing their arm for a discount.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭WildCardDoW


    I could argue that you naming and shaming a person on a forum is as bad as you feel his behavior was towards you.

    He probably handled it poorly but we all have bad days, hell bad hours in a day, his points are valid as are your own that he handled it badly.

    Certainly could have been called even, certainly you could have simply said, "oh, I don't know have enough, I better do X and Y" after he rebuffed your first offer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭Rojiblancos


    Surprised the 67c wasn't just wiped off the balance. Discounts are entirely up to staff and just need managers approval in d.i.d. Workers get commission on sales but discounts look bad so each staff member tries not to discount unless it's a large sale , now in fairness 67c isn't going to make a massive difference to the guy on the till, in fact he would have been better off to put the discount through the till than take it from his own pocket if he was going to be picky like that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 SSD2014


    Next time look for a microwave thats 54 quid and stop being an entitled whinger.

    Theres people with far less than 250 a week to support themselves who dont go around starting a personal negative media campaign everytime they get refused a discount.

    Consumer issue me arse. More like whinger issue.


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    Sorry you had to endure that experience OP, and also the pathetic replies from the likes of the poster above me who will only call you a whinger because it's the internet and he's anonymous.

    You were obviously in bad need of that microwave, and I know hindsight is a great thing, but you should have not let it get that far. I was surprised to read at the end that you still left with the microwave despite the harsh treatment.

    As other posters have said, you probably got all you are going to get from DID in terms of an apology. Think about it, if Mr. Snip apologises it is only because he was made to and there'll be as much sincerity and compassion behind it as there is behind the response above this post...none. Personally I wouldn't want to see or hear from him again.

    Mr. Snip was well within his rights to deny a discount, but not to humiliate you. Vote with your feet and wallet OP and try to put this behind you, I think it is the best you can do here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bagels


    hfallada wrote: »
    I know from working retail, that if the till is short that the employee pays for the difference and not the company. I have had managers in the past giving out that the till is 50 cent short

    DID IMO are an excellent retailer. They Irish owned and competitive. In my local store there is very little staff turnover (unusual in retail, meaning their staff is happy). People have their days and unfortunately the employee lost it with you. There is plenty of times were I have wanted to lose it with an employee but didnt. The employee just needs to learn to kept their cool. I cant see DID being able to do anything better for you

    Thank you for your comment.
    The employee had no reason to lose it with me. I was polite and calm throughout and did nothing to provoke him. I treated him with the utmost courtesy, when I was able to get a word in.
    This employee is an ambassador for DID Electrical and his performance is supposed to mirror company policy. He acts in their name and as such his actions should not bring the name of the company into disrepute. He's done wrong by me and by the company who employs him. He owes me an apology and owes one to his employer also. If senior management at DID Electrical can't see that, then their heads must be buried in the sand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bagels


    Stheno wrote: »
    Do you not see the company apologising as having a greater impact then <SNIP>?

    I complained in the past when I was subject to discrimination by an employee of a company I was interviewed by, to their HR director, said employee lost his job as a result.

    DID may change their procedures/investigate the employee as a result of your complaint?

    Thank you for your comment.
    It took me three months to get an apology in writing from the company (in an email) but it doesn't clarify what the apology is for, see here for yourself:
    "At DID Electrical; we are passionate about delivering superior customer service all day, every day to all of our customers. On this occasion however this was not the case, please accept my sincerest apologies".
    Are they apologising for the way the employee treated me or are they apologising for failing to respond to my original complaint?
    That's why I don't see the company's ambiguous apology as having a greater impact than an apology from the employee.
    I'm not asking for heads to roll, all I want is an apology from the person who treated me like dirt, nothing more, nothing less.
    At this late stage I no longer have any confidence in DID changing their procedures or properly dealing with my complaint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bagels


    dee_mc wrote: »
    It certainly sounds as though <SNIP> treated you rudely, I'm not disputing that, but I'd love if you would fill in a few blanks for me:

    a) Why do you want an apology? By the sound of things <SNIP> is fairly jumped up, and an apology forced by higher management will presumably be insincere, so do you think it will actually make you feel better, or that he will realise the error of his ways?

    b) Was the microwave you chose on special offer at the time? I work in retail and have come up against irate customers requesting/expecting an additional discount on already discounted items (which we can't issue, as it's against store policy)

    c) Why didn't you just come back another day with your 67c?

    Thank you for your comment.
    a) An apology forced out of him by higher management might humble him sufficiently to think twice in future before treating a customer like dirt. An apology from him, even a begrudging forced one, would actually make me feel better. It may seem silly to some but that's the way I feel about it.
    b) The answer to this question doesn't help my argument but as far as I recall, yes the microwave was on special offer. I accept that an additional discount can't be applied to already discounted item but I wasn't aware of that at the time. If the employee allowed me to speak I'd have asked to be allowed to take the microwave with me and return at a later date with the 67 cents or post it to them.
    c) I live twenty miles from the shop. The reason I was in Galway that day was I had important business of a personal nature. To return on another occasion just to buy the microwave would have me incurring transport costs I really couldn't afford. The next time I happened to be in Galway, I returned to the shop and paid the 67 cents.
    I hope that clarifies matters for you. I'm happy to answer any other questions you may have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bagels


    anewme wrote: »
    I think this goes to show that people are individuals and some people should not be in customer facing roles.

    I actually find DID good (my local one is excellent) and the staff are lovely.

    Also, I also remember how helpful DID were in relation to the very sad case of Peggy Mangan and Casper and it made me actually want to put some business their way.

    Thank you for your comment.
    I've no doubt that very many fine people work for DID Electrical and I don't wish them any ill-will.
    My dispute is with one employee in the Galway branch and the senior management who've let me down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bagels


    mikom wrote: »
    You should have bought the microwave in white and saved yourself a lot of trouble.
    Virtually the exact same Thor model, only white, and cheaper at €49.99...... http://www.did.ie/microwaves/where/dir/asc/order/price

    Thank you for your comment.
    A white microwave wouldn't have looked appropriate in our kitchen where all of the other appliances are either black or silver and black.
    By the way, none of our appliances are anything special. Our hob is actually second-hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    While the thread is cut to death, it does really seem like the OP went in and excepted to get something reduced for no reason and made one hell of a scene as a result. This is not DIDs fault at all. Something not matching other appliances in your kitchen is an absolutely pathetic excuse when you've already made a point about your limited income.

    Realistically, I'd almost respect DID more if they hadn't fallen for the OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭johnogog88


    Hate d.I.d wouldn't buy anything of them again.I bought a TV of them which broke 3 times every time offering repair rather than just give a new one.They ignored complaints from me I emailed.I can't speak.bad enough about them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭bagels


    greasepalm wrote: »
    been shopping with did for over 30 years and getting most of my gear locally and know all the staff and their humor,so i would think <SNIP> had a very bad day all round and should not acted that way to any customer or not,word gets around how bad they treat people will hurt D I D,one bad apple in the barrel affects all in the end so would have hoped you might have got an apology or something even vouchers to say how sorry this had effected you both.
    i do wish for a brighter future ahead for you both of you.

    Thank you for your kind comments.
    I think its great that you've been a satisfied customer of DID for more than thirty years. They must be doing a very good job if you're a loyal customer for so long. They're obviously treating you right and they're been rewarded by retaining your custom. That's how it should be. I believe its important that satisfied customers make their voices heard too. If a business looks after you then its only fair that you should speak highly of them. There's always been too much knocking in this country and not enough praise. I suppose some here would put me in that category but I don't mind. If they knew me they wouldn't.
    My Wife and I wish you and yours the very best for the future too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Snake


    Ah Jesus will half of you cop on!! It's embarrassing enough being short of money when you go to pay but 67 cent not even ONE euro and your man to get up in arms about it, don't be such ignorant ***** about it! He was short of money, yeah I don't think that's his problem, I fairly sure his problem is the little bastardisation who made a holy show of him in front of everyone for a quid. Go ahead and make your jokes, I hope the same will happen to you.


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