Should be Beyonce's sister be impriosoned?

Cazzoenorme

For the vicious attack on Jay Z, all I hear are jokes on the radio, not much sympathy for victims of abuse.

lintdrummer

Sexual abuse?

Also link to the story for those who haven't heard?

corner of hells

Was he sexualily assaulted , I thought she punched and kicked him.

Cazzoenorme

lintdrummer wrote: »

Sexual abuse?

Also link to the story for those who haven't heard?

He was kicked in the genitals.

greenman09

Of course there's a back story to this. Rumours of him cheating on Beyoncé just one of them. Imprisoned? Don't make me laugh.
Ps who cares

Merkin

Cazzoenorme wrote: »

For the vicious attack on Jay Z, all I hear are jokes on the radio, not much sympathy for victims of sexual abuse.

Eh, you'd really want to be backing up your rant with some kind of link. I read about her assaulting him in a lift but where on earth did you get the other part?

Cazzoenorme

corner of hells wrote: »

Was he sexualily assaulted , I thought she punched and kicked him.

It was mainly vanilla abuse but there was some sexual abuse too, ie a kick to the testicles.

Cazzoenorme

Merkin wrote: »

Eh, you'd really want to be backing up your rant with some kind of link. I read about her assaulting him in a lift but where on earth did you get the other part?

Rant??

corner of hells

Cazzoenorme wrote: »

He was kicked in the genitals.

Bollix .

Merkin

Cazzoenorme wrote: »

He was kicked in the genitals.

Jesus, pass me the roll eyes immediately...

Makaveli

Cazzoenorme wrote: »

It was mainly vanilla abuse but there was some sexual abuse too, ie a kick to the testicles.

That's a reach.

Arthur Beesley

I hadn't realised that Sonny Knowles had 2 daughters.

Maphisto

Cazzoenorme wrote: »

He was kicked in the genitals.

And that's sexual abuse?

Lukehandypants

Jay-z what a pussy, yer wan proably kicked him in the balls for selling his headphones to Apple.

Matt_Trakker

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She believes that women have "veered off track into a culture of empty-headed narcissism" because we're too busy looking at pictures of celebrity cellulite to use our brains in a productive way.

"We have a problem," she says. "The generation before us fought like hell and won for us equality in education and employment. Let's use that for a higher purpose than sending pictures of kittens on Facebook."

And that's not all. She says: "We become almost as bad as the egomaniacs, drunken starlets, and arrogant attention-seekers we read about."

AlanS181824

What exactly happened? I don't usually follow gossip but I'm curious to know.

kylith

From what I've seen, yes she should. A person should not get away with assault just because of their gender. If the genders had been reversed people wouldn't even be questioning if the attacker should be prosecuted.

Talib Fiasco

If Jigga was stupid enough to cheat on a woman, especially a woman like Beyonce, then he deserves everything he gets tbh.

kylith

AlanS181824 wrote: »

What exactly happened? I don't usually follow gossip but I'm curious to know.

They enter a lift with a second man, presumably a bodyguard, and she immediately gets in Jay-z's face, then starts smacking him. The bodyguard pulls her off and then she repeatedly lashes out with her feet.

AlanS181824

kylith wrote: »

They enter a lift with a second man, presumably a bodyguard, and she immediately gets in Jay-z's face, then starts smacking him. The bodyguard pulls her off and then she repeatedly lashes out with her feet.

She being the sister?

Is there any reason I should care or is it just like "OMG Celeb Go$$ip RT RT" nonsense?

Thanks for responding BTW.

SusieBlue

Solange attacked Jay-Z in a lift at the Met Ball, she threw a few slaps and kicks and also allegedly spat at him, but was restrained by another man in the lift.

Jay-Z didn't retaliate (bar raising his hands to protect himself and grabbing her hands to try to stop her), Beyonce didn't step in or get involved at all which leads me to believe Solange was SERIOUSLY pissed at Jay-Z, to say he didn't even try to defend himself.

Assault would be stretching what happened entirely, but sexual abuse is laughable. Talk about exaggeration OP :rolleyes: And FYI, a kick in the balls is not legally considered sexual abuse in any jurisdiction that I'm aware of. :pac:

I'm assuming because he didn't defend himself and Bey didn't step in, that he did something bad, and he knew it.

Tilly

Lukehandypants wrote: »

Jay-z what a pussy, yer wan proably kicked him in the balls for selling his headphones to Apple.

That's Dr Dre.

Yes the sister should be at least questioned. I saw the attack on tv this morning and she shouldn't be let away with that.

johnmcdnl

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

If Jigga was stupid enough to cheat on a woman, especially a woman like Beyonce, then he deserves everything he gets tbh.

Switch the roles. Beyonce cheats on Jay Z. Does Beyonce deserve to be assaulted by Jay Z's brother?

ElleEm

It is so strange that Beyonce doesn't appear to flinch. The only time she really does anything is when she picks up the train of her dress. Wierd.

bumper234

He will never be able to sing 99 problems anymore

Cazzoenorme

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

If Jigga was stupid enough to cheat on a woman, especially a woman like Beyonce, then he deserves everything he gets tbh.

So you are condoning domeatic violence?

Assault is never ok unless in self defense.

diveout

WhiteRoses wrote: »

Solange attacked Jay-Z in a lift at the Met Ball, she threw a few slaps and kicks and also allegedly spat at him, but was restrained by another man in the lift.

Jay-Z didn't retaliate (bar raising his hands to protect himself and grabbing her hands to try to stop her), Beyonce didn't step in or get involved at all which leads me to believe Solange was SERIOUSLY pissed at Jay-Z, to say he didn't even try to defend himself.

Assault would be stretching what happened entirely, but sexual abuse is laughable. Talk about exaggeration OP :rolleyes: And FYI, a kick in the balls is not legally considered sexual abuse in any jurisdiction that I'm aware of. :pac:

I'm assuming because he didn't defend himself and Bey didn't step in, that he did something bad, and he knew it.

In the US a kick in the balls is legally a violent sexual assault. And so it should be.

Gyalist

"I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one" - Jay-Z

Seems that he now has 100 problems.

Lukehandypants

diveout wrote: »

In the US a kick in the balls is legally a violent sexual assault. And so it should be.

How many times was he kicked in the nads?
If it's more than once is that multiple sexual assault?

Cazzoenorme

It boggles the mind the mind that people think a kick in the balls isn't sexual assault, it could destroy a man's ability to procreate.

diveout

Lukehandypants wrote: »

How many times was he kicked in the nads?
If it's more than once is that multiple sexual assault?

I have no idea, you'd have to ask a criminal lawyer. My guess is yes.

It's just that culturally it's not taken as seriously as a kick in the vagina.

calex71

here nothing you don't see on a saturday night the world over

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWdhX9c_7FA

SusieBlue

diveout wrote: »

In the US a kick in the balls is legally a violent sexual assault. And so it should be.

Its not a violent sexual assault unless the victim was fondled or touched inappropriately in some way.

Indeed, it could be classed as a violent assault depending on how much force was used and how much damage was inflicted, which in turn could result in a felony charge, but its not sexual in any way.

Lukehandypants

diveout wrote: »

I have no idea, you'd have to ask a criminal lawyer. My guess is yes.

It's just that culturally it's not taken as seriously as a kick in the vagina.

Why isn't it taken as serious as a kick in the vagina?
When we were kids we were alway kicking each other in the balls, does this mean I have been sexually assaulted?

sadie06

ElleEm wrote: »

It is so strange that Beyonce doesn't appear to flinch. The only time she really does anything is when she picks up the train of her dress. Wierd.

Beyonce is so media savvy, I'd say she knew there was a good chance there would be a CCTV camera in the lift. There is also always the risk of the bodyguard selling his story, so I reckon she took a decision to stay out of it.

Then she walked out of that lift looking like nothing had happened, whereas Jay Z looked like a stunned child and Solange looked like she could breathe fire!

Turtyturd

Yes lock her up....and Beyonce for crimes against music.

Cazzoenorme

WhiteRoses wrote: »

Its not a violent sexual assault unless the victim was fondled or touched inappropriately in some way.

Indeed, it could be classed as a violent assault depending on how much force was used and how much damage was inflicted, which in turn could result in a felony charge, but its not sexual in any way.

The assault is sexual as it is aimed at sexual organs. A kick in the balls is most certainly inappropriate.

jimgoose

Lucky it wasn't the wife that hoofed him one. With those thighs of hers he'd have ended up on the roof with his 'nads in his ears. :pac:

diveout

WhiteRoses wrote: »

Its not a violent sexual assault unless the victim was fondled or touched inappropriately in some way.

Indeed, it could be classed as a violent assault depending on how much force was used and how much damage was inflicted, which in turn could result in a felony charge, but its not sexual in any way.

You are wrong. In US jurisdictions, a kick in the balls is a violent sexual assault because it was an attack on a sexual organ. It is also assault and battery depending on the consequences.

You can not just cause infertility but damage the entire urinary and reproductive tract.

diveout

Lukehandypants wrote: »

Why isn't it taken as serious as a kick in the vagina?
When we were kids we were alway kicking each other in the balls, does this mean I have been sexually assaulted?

Technically yes. But it was mutual or bi-directional as they like to call it.

SusieBlue

Cazzoenorme wrote: »

The assault is sexual as it is aimed at sexual organs. A kick in the balls is most certainly inappropriate.

This is like drawing blood from a stone. Of course its inappropriate, but what I meant by inappropriate touching (assuming you'd read between this lines which you obviously didn't) was fondling, grabbing, stroking...Need I elaborate further?

I'm not disputing that kicking him was inappropriate, it was, but it was not a sexual assault. It is demeaning the very definition of a sexual assault.

umop.episdn

Anybody who gives Jay z a kick in the nuts is a hero in my book

diveout

WhiteRoses wrote: »

This is like drawing blood from a stone. Of course its inappropriate, but what I meant by inappropriate touching (assuming you'd read between this lines which you obviously didn't) was fondling, grabbing, stroking...Need I elaborate further?

I'm not disputing that kicking him was inappropriate, it was, but it was not a sexual assault. It is demeaning the very definition of a sexual assault.

Yes it is a sexual assault and a very violent one. It could potentially cause a short flow of urine, which then backs up into the kidneys, renal failure and potentially sterility, potentially reconstructive surgery also.

Gyalist

LOL. A poster calling himself cazzo enorme is always going to make it all about the genitals.

Arthur Beesley

Gyalist wrote: »

Seems that he now has 100 problems.

Did he only have one ball?

SusieBlue

diveout wrote: »

Yes it is a sexual assault and a very violent one. It could potentially cause a short flow of urine, which then backs up into the kidneys, renal failure and potentially sterility, potentially reconstructive surgery also.

You clearly have no legal knowledge because a judge would laugh that claim out of court. It is NOT reasonably forseeable that should a man be kicked in the balls, he will have renal failure and need re-constructive surgery. An absolute minute chance of it happening. A judge will not rule on something that MAY happen, or have potential to happen, it has to have actually occurred and I'm sure we'd all have heard by now if Jay-Z had backed up kidneys.

It isn't sexual assault because there was no sexual motive, the motive was to cause pain, (trespass to the person tort, and an assault) therefore you are clutching at straws claiming it to be sexual.

Also if you think those weak slaps and kicks were "violent" I suggest you read up some case files from the criminal court because I've seen a better fight from two pigeons fighting over a crust of bread. You are blowing this way out of proportion.

Boombastic

Solange, farewell, auf wiedersehen, adieu

corner of hells

jimgoose wrote: »

Lucky it wasn't the wife that hoofed him one. With those thighs of hers he'd have ended up on the roof with his 'nads in his ears. :pac:

Wonder is he to be a single lad , shortly.

diveout

WhiteRoses wrote: »

You clearly have no legal knowledge because a judge would laugh that claim out of court. It is NOT reasonably forseeable that should a man be kicked in the balls, he will have renal failure and need re-constructive surgery. An absolute minute chance of it happening. A judge will not rule on something that MAY happen, or have potential to happen, it has to have actually occurred and I'm sure we'd all have heard by now if Jay-Z had backed up kidneys.

It isn't sexual assault because there was no sexual motive, the motive was to cause pain, (trespass to the person tort, and an assault) therefore you are clutching at straws claiming it to be sexual.

Also if you think those weak slaps and kicks were "violent" I suggest you read up some case files from the criminal court because I've seen a better fight from two pigeons fighting over a crust of bread. You are blowing this way out of proportion.

I have plenty of legal knowledge on US jurisdictions my dear and you are very very wrong.

Maphisto

diveout wrote: »

Yes it is a sexual assault and a very violent one. It could potentially cause a short flow of urine, which then backs up into the kidneys, renal failure and potentially sterility, potentially reconstructive surgery also.

No. That's an assault, if there are the consequences that you suggest it could be wounding. No one, in their right mind, is suggesting that she had any sexual intent by kicking in the nuts.

Cazzoenorme

WhiteRoses wrote: »

This is like drawing blood from a stone. Of course its inappropriate, but what I meant by inappropriate touching (assuming you'd read between this lines which you obviously didn't) was fondling, grabbing, stroking...Need I elaborate further?

I'm not disputing that kicking him was inappropriate, it was, but it was not a sexual assault. It is demeaning the very definition of a sexual assault.

You are demeaning assault to the sexual organs and the potential trauma it can cause, perhaps you've watched too many comedies where a kick in the balls is done for lols.