Knee pain from squats

harvester of sorrow

Hi all,quick question,

My left knee is sore from squatting 2 days ago,not very sore but niggiling all the same,also feels as if my knee is going to go from under me at any minute....:o.
Just started a 3 day a week squating routine to build up my strength in my legs(weakest body part),and i have been concentrating on getting right down,almost ass on calves.
Do ye think that going too low,too fast could be the cause?Or could it be a mobility issue,as it was pointed out to me that my toes tend to point out a bit too much?

Thanks for the help.

Alf Veedersane

It won't be from squatting low anyway. It could be one of a few things but one of them won't be performing a deep squat properly.

If you could put up a video, you'd get some feedback but other than that,you'd be well served by having a trainer show you how to nail the form.

Alf Veedersane

Also, when you say your toes point out a good bit...your thigh should be parallel with your foot when you squat so if they're pointing out too much, that might be affecting it.

RidleyRider

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Also, when you say your toes point out a good bit...your thigh should be parallel with your foot when you squat so if they're pointing out too much, that might be affecting it.

I disagree here tbh. A small bit of toes pointing out is fine. Especially since your driving your knees out anyway so what your saying isn't strictly true.

papu

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Also, when you say your toes point out a good bit...your thigh should be parallel with your foot when you squat so if they're pointing out too much, that might be affecting it.

It's probably this , arch collapsing from the toes point out and knees buckling inwards . As said a video would help . Do you squat in runners?

Alf Veedersane

RidleyRider wrote: »

I disagree here tbh. A small bit of toes pointing out is fine. Especially since your driving your knees out anyway so what your saying isn't strictly true.

I wasn't saying it might be because his toes are pointing out. I said it might be because they're pointing out too far.

harvester of sorrow

papu wrote: »

It's probably this , arch collapsing from the toes point out and knees buckling inwards . As said a video would help . Do you squat in runners?

Yeah:o
Knees buckling inwards=Weight to heavy or poor form?

papu

harvester of sorrow wrote: »

Yeah:o
Knees buckling inwards=Weight to heavy or poor form?

Squat barefoot , in converse or similar flat shoes or invest in a pair of raised heel lifting shoes.
Squatting with running shoes is like squatting on mini trampolines it lets the feet collapse because of the squishyness of the sole and hurt your knees.
You should be actively driving your knees out ie, screwing your legs into the ground , and creating torque at the hip, once you start doing this you'll know if the weights too heavy or not.

RidleyRider

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I wasn't saying it might be because his toes are pointing out. I said it might be because they're pointing out too far.

Ah, apologies! Read it wrong.

Alf Veedersane

RidleyRider wrote: »

Ah, apologies! Read it wrong.

Nay bother. I turn my toes out.

As an aside, I did try the toes straight ahead craic and it didn't work for me.

Mellor

harvester of sorrow wrote: »

Yeah:o
Knees buckling inwards=Weight to heavy or poor form?

Sounds like poor form.

If you can get the rep out, strength isn't the issue. But you might need to dial the weight back until you've got the movement down.

Mellor

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

It won't be from squatting low anyway. It could be one of a few things but one of them won't be performing a deep squat properly.

Just because squatting low is considered the right way to squat. It doesn't mean everyone squating low is doing it the right way.

Alf Veedersane

Mellor wrote: »

Just because squatting low is considered the right way to squat. It doesn't mean everyone squating low is doing it the right way.

That's why 'properly' is there.

RidleyRider

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Nay bother. I turn my toes out.

As an aside, I did try the toes straight ahead craic and it didn't work for me.

Yeah, me too! I've only seen one person squat with straight toes.

thehamo

You're not taking muscle imbalance into account. Could be something going on there you werent aware of that has just been exacerbated by squatting. Knees buckling inwards (if weight isnt there) tends to be a weak hip abductor problem ( glute max, min)

Sundy

I was getting knee pain from squatting, quick trip to the physio found that the problem was coming from my ITB and glutes. Worked on strength there and knee pain went in week or two.

I just to squat in running shoes and could never figure out why my stability was so poor. Well foam soles does that! Took the runners off and added about 10% to my 1RM. It's a bit cheaper than lifting shoes for now

harvester of sorrow

Ok.......back in the squat rack for the first time since i started this thread.
Made a real concious effort to keep my knees out,and so far (4hrs later) I have no knee pain.
Dont know if it has anything to do with keeping my knees out but it felt as if i had more power/felt stronger probobally more to do with the layoff of the squats tho.

We will wait and see what tommorow brings in terms of how the knees feel.

Alf Veedersane

If you make sure to push your knees out, you'll be involving more muscles so it'll feel more solid.

It's something I've worked on of late and I've found that myself.

MD1990

Foam Rolling will also make a big difference. Your Quads,Glutes,Calfs or Glutes could be tight putting pressure on your knee's. Look up some Kelly Starret video's.