Sgt Maurice McCabe, National Award petition

Cantremember

Sgt McCabe was abused by the highest ranks of government and voted against by Dáil Éireann in support of the Minister who ignored him but has been vindicated by the Guerin report. I want a petition to award him a national honour for standing for right against the idiocy incompetence and corruption that has undermined the country.

My name is URL

I suppose they could award him the Scott Medal?

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Fair dues to you. Though given this site uses pseudonyms it may not be the best place to start.

Wacker The Attacker

I would usually suggest coke and hookers.

However, it seems oddly inappropriate in this situation.

Busted Flat.

Hopefully other decent Gardaí which they are in the majority, except in the top ranks, will take a stand against the corrupt few and make a new start. Good on you Sgt. McCabe you will be remembered for a long number of years for your courageous stance.

dpofloinn

Im sure thats exactly what Sgt McCabe wants, an award from the state that tried to destroy him

Tail Docker

He's just like his Grandfather, The Bull - he took no crap in his Field either.

Amirani

Hear, hear.

Menas

They guy is a hero in my eyes. He would not accept no for an answer and saw it thru to the end.
The Guerin report really shows how ineffectual the system is.
The whole thing can be summed up in one line from the conclusion of the report. Shatter accepted the word of the commisioner in response to a complaint about the commisioner.
No need for awards or any of that bull sh1t. McCabe has been vindicated and hopefully his actions will change the culture of the justice system in this country.

Cantremember

Trigger Happy wrote: »

They guy is a hero in my eyes. He would not accept no for an answer and saw it thru to the end.
The Guerin report really shows how ineffectual the system is.
The whole thing can be summed up in one line from the conclusion of the report. Shatter accepted the word of the commisioner in response to a complaint about the commisioner.
No need for awards or any of that bull sh1t. McCabe has been vindicated and hopefully his actions will change the culture of the justice system in this country.

There is a major need for an award. Nationally it needs to be acknowledged and promoted to others that standing up for proper performance of duty improves society for everyone. If we had a whistleblower in Anglo, in the financial regulators office we might have done better. We will have awards for people who fund raise for famine in Africa or disabled people at home. That's great. Let's have an award from the people for a man who stood up for every ordinary Joe and Jane Soap in the country.

Maphisto

dpofloinn wrote: »

Im sure thats exactly what Sgt McCabe wants, an award from the state that tried to destroy him

Yes but it wasn't the state per se, it was the people at the top of the state at that time, now I agree that some of them may or may not still be there but you get my drift.

I think he deserves some recognition.

Strumms

He is a hero and no mistake. He should be formally recognised. The award shouldn't be from the state. He should be recognised somehow by an organisation that promotes anti-corruption, free speech etc...

Frankie Lee

I think Maurice McCabe would be happier if there was a petition for something like a Knapp Commission investigation rather than some poxy award.

Cantremember

Strumms wrote: »

He is a hero and no mistake. He should be formally recognised. The award shouldn't be from the state. He should be recognised somehow by an organisation that promotes anti-corruption, free speech etc...

It must be from the state. The state belongs to the people and it is the people who owe him thanks.

rolliepoley

The best thing this country can do, is to give him the job of the commisioner so he can weed out more of the lopsided ones at the top of an garda.

sillyoulfool

Cantremember wrote: »

It must be from the state. The state belongs to the people and it is the people who owe him thanks.

The State does not award honours and if it did they would be discredited by being granted to politicians and their mates.
What Sgt McCabe has been through must have been hell and he deserves vindication and indeed an apology.

Cantremember

sillyoulfool wrote: »

The State does not award honours and if it did they would be discredited by being granted to politicians and their mates.
What Sgt McCabe has been through must have been hell and he deserves vindication and indeed an apology.

The fact that the state doesn't, doesn't mean that it shouldn't.

Strumms

That state should represent the people but history has told is that those at the head of the state represent the interest of themselves and their mates rather then the greater populace and the greater good. It should come from an independent organisation and waved directly in the faces of the corrupt and dishonest both within AGS and the government / political establishment. Send a message. The political establishment is not of the people it is culturally and institutionally at odds with those it should be serving.

My name is URL

rolliepoley wrote: »

The best thing this country can do, is to give him the job of the commisioner so he can weed out more of the lopsided ones at the top of an garda.

You're assuming he'd want such a job. From the way he speaks about things it seems he just wants to get back to what it is he joined AGS to do.

As for a 'state' award.. why should it be the state that gives him an award? There have been plenty of whistleblowers to have come before him and they never received any award from the state.

Wouldn't awarding him the Scott Medal set a certain example for AGS overall? That seems more fitting than coming up with a new award just to give to him. And who'd award it to him anyway... Enda Kenny? After his staunch defence of the man that tried to paint McCabe as a liar? Fcuk.. that would be such an empty gesture.

sillyoulfool

Cantremember wrote: »

The fact that the state doesn't, doesn't mean that it shouldn't.

It does though.
Honours systems would be discredited, if we had an honours system no doubt by now we have Sir Bertie Ahern, Sir Charles Haughey, The Honourable John Bruton etc.

Cantremember

sillyoulfool wrote: »

It does though.
Honours systems would be discredited, if we had an honours system no doubt by now we have Sir Bertie Ahern, Sir Charles Haughey, The Honourable John Bruton etc.

No it doesn't. It's a non sequitur, a simple error In logic on your part. What you are doing of course is the ould trick of trying to deny McCabe recognition with the argument that "shure if we give it to him we have to give it to..."

SaveOurLyric

https://www.bravery.ie

diomed

Do they have a Nobel Prize for sticking up for justice and showing that authority is populated by brown-nosers, and back-stabbers?
The Europeans sorted us out financially. Perhaps they could step in and supervise our Department of Justice, judiciary, and police force for a few years until it is fit for purpose.

sillyoulfool

roadsmart wrote: »

Hold that award for a couple of weeks.

Why would that be Alan/Martin?:rolleyes:

sillyoulfool

Cantremember wrote: »

No it doesn't. It's a non sequitur, a simple error In logic on your part. What you are doing of course is the ould trick of trying to deny McCabe recognition with the argument that "shure if we give it to him we have to give it to..."

Cop yourself on like a good wee laddie.
I have neither tried to deny, nor in any way denied Sgt McCabe recognition, try reading my earlier posts!

Cantremember

roadsmart wrote: »

You'll know in the next few weeks.

Ah. Business as usual.

Banjoxed

If the screws remain on for Garda and Department of Justice reform, great, but if the demand for reform melts away because Shatter is gone, then we'll see who has togs on when the populist tide goes out.

ryan101

This state and its institutions are rotten to the corp, good honest decent people are being suffocated in them every day.

My name is URL

Cantremember wrote: »

Ah. Business as usual.

He deleted his posts... must be legit :pac:

Maphisto

My name is URL wrote: »

He deleted his posts... must be legit :pac:

Is that he deleted his post so he may well have said something factual and interesting?

My name is URL

Maphisto wrote: »

Is that he deleted his post so he may well have said something factual and interesting?

I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks!

Boombastic

we could nail a rat to his door?

only messing, he deserves an award

theKillerBite

Maybe we could give him a whistle as a prize

Cantremember

Maphisto wrote: »

Is that he deleted his post so he may well have said something factual and interesting?

Facts may be found in the Guerin report. Attempts to muddy the waters may be found elsewhere.

Tail Docker

He certainly has his fingers on the pulse of the force...no...wait..

Gatling

He should be acknowledged in some way but not awarded the Scott Medal ,

The Scott Medal is awarded for Valor and bravery ,

IMO whistleblowing doesn't inspire Valor or bravery ,

Busted Flat.

Gatling wrote: »

He should be acknowledged in some way but not awarded the Scott Medal ,

The Scott Medal is awarded for Valor and bravery ,

IMO whistleblowing doesn't inspire Valor or bravery ,

Whistle blowing is exactly that, look at the treatment given to McCabe and Wilson. That is exactly what the Scott medal is for. Courage in the face of corruption.

fran17

if not a medal then maybe a large trophy.that man certainly deserves something

ryan101

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Whistle blowing is exactly that, look at the treatment given to McCabe and Wilson. That is exactly what the Scott medal is for. Courage in the face of corruption.

Exactly what is braver than taking on the corrupt scum that tired to destroy their reputations and lives. They should both get the Scott medal, no question.

My name is URL

Gatling wrote: »

He should be acknowledged in some way but not awarded the Scott Medal ,

The Scott Medal is awarded for Valor and bravery ,

IMO whistleblowing doesn't inspire Valor or bravery ,

What does it inspire if not both of those things? =/

There's probably only one thing that would or could stand in the way of him receiving a Scott Medal, and that's that his life was not in 'imminent danger' as a result of his actions.. but even that is debatable. His livelyhood and health, both mental and physical were certainly in danger due to his actions and the resistance he was met with in the line of duty.

I can't think of any concrete reason that he should not be a recipient of the Scott Medal, tbh...

CarrickMcJoe

As previously stated, Sgt McCabe should be given the Commissioners job. Then any guard who feels threatened by his colleagues or needs to report a wrong doing can feel safe to do so and it will be acted on.

thisNthat

Cantremember wrote: »

Sgt McCabe was abused by the highest ranks of government and voted against by Dáil Éireann in support of the Minister who ignored him but has been vindicated by the Guerin report. I want a petition to award him a national honour for standing for right against the idiocy incompetence and corruption that has undermined the country.

Never has this been more relevant than now,
Watching prime time and listening to what they done to Sgt Maurice McCabe makes your blood boil... :mad:
Corruption for the very top down.. Horrendous, absolutely horrendous stuff..

red ears

Can anyone put what happened to McCabe into a paragraph or two.

bcklschaps

If they go ahead and have a Tribunal will it have powers to prosecute wrong doers? Or is the punishment only going to be reputational?

Clearly the current Commissioner and probably her predecessor are up to their necks in it. Ministers Fitzgerald and Zappone don't look too clever either. Soo much for having loads of women in powerful positions. They are a disaster.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Cantremember wrote: »

The fact that the state doesn't, doesn't mean that it shouldn't.

Awards are pointless.They're just bull**** done for attention.

His ultimate award would be instituting change in the Gardaí.

johnny_tractor

lol op is from 2014

well done

Widdershins

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy wrote: »

Fair dues to you. Though given this site uses pseudonyms it may not be the best place to start.

Imagine the list of signatories..starting with Wacker the Attacker, whose name I read right after your comment..

Widdershins

johnny_tractor wrote: »

lol op is from 2014

well done

And still no petition?

drunkmonkey

red ears wrote: »

Can anyone put what happened to McCabe into a paragraph or two.

Made a complaint about a partner at work, got shat on. Kept making complaints kept getting shat on, some Tulsa worker fecked up and really shat on him, now were having a tribunal that's going to **** on us financially and he's going to walk away with loads of money and everyone here thinks he deserves a medal. I don't but fear for my life in here so I'll say no more but that's the jist of it.

johnny_tractor

Widdershins wrote: »

And still no petition?

i won't worry about a petition,

the truth is coming out

McCabe already got a person of the year award. Last year or the year before