Spring lamb prices

clonagh

Thanks

answerman12

What rations/pellets are lads using to finish lambs? Have been using Blue Ribbon finishing ration but have seen a new one recently, Nutrias Lamb Max Score pellet, any experience with this?

razor8

answerman12 wrote: »

What rations/pellets are lads using to finish lambs? Have been using Blue Ribbon finishing ration but have seen a new one recently, Nutrias Lamb Max Score pellet, any experience with this?

blue ribbon is very good for finishing but not cheap. what dont you like about blue ribbon?

answerman12

razor8 wrote: »

blue ribbon is very good for finishing but not cheap. what dont you like about blue ribbon?

Like you said, very good but costing me €370 pt. Can get this nutrias pellet for 330 pt and wouldn't mind trying a nut/pellet rather than ration.
May just stick with the blue ribbon, even though it hits the already small margin. What's it costing you?

Willfarman

4.80 ICM Camolin. (All in)

Green farmer

answerman12 wrote: »

Like you said, very good but costing me €370 pt.

I know it’s needed to get them out the gate, but is there any margin left for the farmer after that ? Paying €310 - €320 for decent nuts / rations here and wondering if I’m only working for the mill.

answerman12

Green farmer wrote: »

I know it’s needed to get them out the gate, but is there any margin left for the farmer after that ? Paying €310 - €320 for decent nuts / rations here and wondering if I’m only working for the mill.

Over the past 4 weeks I've finished about 30 lambs and was very happy with them between around 8 to 15 euro profit, these were suffolk crosses which I picked up in late August.
I have another 30+ light cheviot cross lambs, which at the moment are weighing 38kg and have eaten 2/3 bags each already. Had intended to finish some next week but they won't be near fit, the margin isn't looking good with these lighter lambs at all..
What's considered a good margin nowadays?

Green farmer

answerman12 wrote: »

Over the past 4 weeks I've finished about 30 lambs and was very happy with them between around 8 to 15 euro profit, these were suffolk crosses which I picked up in late August.
I have another 30+ light cheviot cross lambs, which at the moment are weighing 38kg and have eaten 2/3 bags each already. Had intended to finish some next week but they won't be near fit, the margin isn't looking good with these lighter lambs at all..
What's considered a good margin nowadays?

I’ll let the store lads answer that. I’m just feeding meal to get them out the door and gone now. With the year that’s been in it, don’t think there’s much if any margin there.

Young95

answerman12 wrote: »

Over the past 4 weeks I've finished about 30 lambs and was very happy with them between around 8 to 15 euro profit, these were suffolk crosses which I picked up in late August.
I have another 30+ light cheviot cross lambs, which at the moment are weighing 38kg and have eaten 2/3 bags each already. Had intended to finish some next week but they won't be near fit, the margin isn't looking good with these lighter lambs at all..
What's considered a good margin nowadays?

20 euro a head plus. Your lighter lambs probably should only be on grass alone till now so gonna be hard to get those 2 or 3 bags of meal back outa them plus to meal they need from now till finishing!

kk.man

Teagasc recon the cost of production of a lamb is 85e so if you sell at 100e there's the 15e margin. Of course you got to factor in meal and at a guess 5e per head. 20e net margin would be acceptable for the store man.

Green farmer

Remember a year or two ago teagasc spoke about store lamb finishing. Said €240-€250 was enough to pay but no more then €280 for the rolls Royce of ingredients. Not so funny how that’s gone out the window while the end kg price stayed stagnant. The government has been very good at attracting in multinationals in nearly every other sector, pity they couldn’t do the same and create some competition for Larry and his friends.

kk.man

Green farmer wrote: »

Remember a year or two ago teagasc spoke about store lamb finishing. Said €240-€250 was enough to pay but no more then €280 for the rolls Royce of ingredients. Not so funny how that’s gone out the window while the end kg price stayed stagnant. The government has been very good at attracting in multinationals in nearly every other sector, pity they couldn’t do the same and create some competition for Larry and his friends.

Larry has total control of the fifth quarter. They would only toe the line.

Siamsa Sessions

Larry *is* the Government, or may as well be

answerman12

Bit off topic lads but what do ye use to tension yer sheep wire?

ganmo

answerman12 wrote: »

Bit off topic lads but what do ye use to tension yer sheep wire?

we use an ancient puller similar to that one.

wrangler

answerman12 wrote: »

Bit off topic lads but what do ye use to tension yer sheep wire?

i put one of these clamps on the sheep wire and pull it with the tractor, It works most places

https://www.spaldings.co.uk/livestock/steel-fence-strainer-clamp--1m

Siamsa Sessions

ganmo wrote: »

we use an ancient puller similar to that one.

Going to try a Hayes strainer the next time we put up some wire.

I copied the video below and made a clamp for sheep wire with two pieces of timber planks and three bolts. The wire goes between the planks and the bolts tighten the planks together which obviously holds the wire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHxCqc9zj9k&frags=pl%2Cwn

I used a ratchet strap previously trying to pull the planks but it wasn't a great job (probably inexperience and lack of patience on m part!)

You could also pull the wire by tying it onto a stake (or plank of timber) and then pulling the stake with a tractor.

Green farmer

I use gripples and accompanying strainer.

answerman12

Thanks for the replies,gripples are handy but the strainer gun is pricey plus the cost of the gripples, I ordered a Hayes strainer look alike last night and will try the wooden clamp with bolts, if it works out might invest something similar to what you mentioned wrangler.

Also going investing in creosote stakes next week, anyone have experience with them or know good suppliers? Any experience with this agriknives buck https://www.donedeal.ie/fencingequipment-for-sale/new-creosote-stakes-for-40-50-yrs/15252860

paddysdream

answerman12 wrote: »

Thanks for the replies,gripples are handy but the strainer gun is pricey plus the cost of the gripples, I ordered a Hayes strainer look alike last night and will try the wooden clamp with bolts, if it works out might invest something similar to what you mentioned wrangler.

Also going investing in creosote stakes next week, anyone have experience with them or know good suppliers? Any experience with this agriknives buck https://www.donedeal.ie/fencingequipment-for-sale/new-creosote-stakes-for-40-50-yrs/15252860

Think I said it before but a piece of angle iron approx. 3 ft long with 8 holes drilled in it to correspond with bars on sheepwire.Weld on an eye for tow chain etc and pull with tractor or pullers.
Gripples hold the wire on angle iron and are reusable.No need for a gripple puller if doing this and most rolls of sheepwire come with a set of gripples.
Total cost is zero if you have any scrap iron lying around.Take about half an hour to make.
Works the finest.Have one here for years and pulled countless lots of wire.Gripple will hold 3/400 m of sheepwire when pulled with tractor no bother at all.
Have a set of clamps like Wrangler posted with 2 long chains and two Hayes type pullers that came with them.Use it when its not possible to pull top either end of fence.Staple and tie wire both ends,cut in the middle and pull to centre.Use gripple pullers to take up slack between clamps.Works a treat but a wee bit slower than pulling with tractor.

Green farmer

Any factory prices for this week ?

jd06

48 kg 99 euro
42 my 93 euro
No meal, , grass fed

early_riser

Green farmer wrote: »

Any factory prices for this week ?

Killed lambs monday, got 4.75 all in

Sami23

early_riser wrote: »

Killed lambs monday, got 4.75 all in

What weight are the factories paying up to now ?

early_riser

Sami23 wrote: »

What weight are the factories paying up to now ?

22kg

sheepfarmer92

4.90 got for Monday in icm navan

farming93

Anyone know what ewe lambs 50 -57 kg are making? I've a good few savages of lambs that I don't want to factory, they are grey, brown and black face lambs also .

Green farmer

farming93 wrote: »

Anyone know what ewe lambs 50 -57 kg are making? I've a good few savages of lambs that I don't want to factory, they are grey, brown and black face lambs also .

Was in roscrea mart yesterday. From what things were making yesterday, I’m guessing €106 max, as long as their good fleshy lowland sheep. Less for anything hilly

Edit, doesn’t seem much farmer interest for anything

farming93

Them prices would sicken you , think ill factory them at that rate , it'll save me spending a day in the mart.

Green farmer

farming93 wrote: »

Them prices would sicken you , think ill factory them at that rate , it'll save me spending a day in the mart.

“Fodder” or lack of, is whats dictating what lads are keeping this winter. Don’t know anyone who’s expanding numbers. Most are trying to slim it down as much as possible, due to having the cr*p knocked out of us all year long.