Caught speeding-help needed with translation

suave.4u

Hi guys,

Was on a week's trip to Germany and was caught by one of the damn blitzer. Landed back here and promptly got a ticket over mail.
They have a pic of me driving as well.
Can anyone who speaks German please translate the attachment for me. just the gist will suffice and the course of action to be taken.
I know I made a mistake and I am willing to pay up..

regards,

dharma200

I don't speak German,,but you owe them 95 euro.

P_1

You owe them €95 and have a week if you wish to appeal

CiniO

Out of curiosity was it Irish registered car you were driving?

Galway K9

P_1 wrote: »

You owe them €95 and have a week if you wish to appeal

Not sure if still the case but they couldn't enforce those fines.

suave.4u

Thanks guys, I just uploaded the page 2 of the letter as well.
Issue is that I am not able to find a bank account or something to transfer the money.
Do I leave it as it is or where to pay this?

@CiniO: No I had hired a car. The car hire agency have charged 25 euros to pass on my details to the German authorities.
Talk about having a bad time

68 lost souls

Have you tried scanning the QR code and see what happens? Google translate or the chrome plugin may be of use to you then.

For Forks Sake

suave.4u wrote: »

@CiniO: No I had hired a car. The car hire agency have charged 25 euros to pass on my details to the German authorities.
Talk about having a bad time

Well if it's any consolation, Herr Lustig, loosely translated is Mr. Funny.

You sure it's genuine?

Fred Swanson

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Chris_Heilong

I am sure if you dont pay the fine Germany will just get our government to collect it off you;)

galah

You owe them 95 quid, but this letter just gives you an opportunity to make a statement about your speeding - whether you were the driver etc or whether you deny that it was you who they caught for example.

You don't have to make a statement, and they'll then decide what they'll do, issue a fine, closer the case, gather more info. If you want to make a statement you have to do this within one week. You must fill in the second part of the letter if the details aren't correct.

If you don't do anything they'll bring this issue further, although I'm not sure what the German police can do about a speeding fine.

That's the gist of it (on mobile so can't type an essay)...

keithclancy

suave.4u wrote: »

Hi guys,

Was on a week's trip to Germany and was caught by one of the damn blitzer. Landed back here and promptly got a ticket over mail.
They have a pic of me driving as well.
Can anyone who speaks German please translate the attachment for me. just the gist will suffice and the course of action to be taken.
I know I made a mistake and I am willing to pay up..

regards,

That's an anhörungsbogen, you actually don't have to do anything, its a notification that you have been accused of an offence.

You'll get another letter in around 3 weeks with the IBAN details and information on the penalty points registered in Flensburg.

I'd pay it and be done with it.

Phil_Lives

I'm assuming HD stands for Heidelberg and if you did 91kmph at the speed camera at Karlstor which is on the B37 then you deserve your 95euro fine if not much more. Seriously reckless to be travelling that fast there. I assume you were barging in front of another car where the two lanes merge in to one.

keithclancy

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Well that's weird.. I got two of them and they look the exact same and I don't have a rental car :pac:

Tail Docker

Meh, they have your credit card details - don't worry, they'll kindly pay it for you. No need to stress.

keithclancy

Tail Docker wrote: »

Meh, they have your credit card details - don't worry, they'll kindly pay it for you. No need to stress.

Hertz Germany tack on 23.80 as an Admin fee ... Myself I prefer not to pay more money for a fine.

galah

Second part of letter wants to know your name, address, date of birth, place of birth and voluntary information about your financial situation (wtf? That's mad, not sure what you tell them there).

It doesn't look like a hoax, too many legal bits in it. Also 'lustig' is a valid German last name.

CiniO

Tail Docker wrote: »

Meh, they have your credit card details - don't worry, they'll kindly pay it for you. No need to stress.

How could the rental company pay a fine for someone?
All they can do is to give details of person who rented the car to appropriate authorities, which they already did, and OP said they charged him for it.

Fine is issued by authorities, and it's up to OP what he want's to do with it.

Tail Docker

keithclancy wrote: »

Hertz Germany tack on 23.80 as an Admin fee ... Myself I prefer not to pay more money for a fine.

Me either, I was just saying..

CiniO wrote: »

How could the rental company pay a fine for someone?
All they can do is to give details of person who rented the car to appropriate authorities, which they already did, and OP said they charged him for it.

Fine is issued by authorities, and it's up to OP what he want's to do with it.

Wondrous, eh.

Phil_Lives

As you haven't confirmed my suspicion that you travelling at reckless speeds as you entered the Altstadt from Neckargemund I'll assume I'm right.
I also assume at the top of the first page which you clipped there is an email address for the Ordnungsamt in Heidelberg. Send a mail in English FAO Herr Lustig explaining that you are not a German citizen and request an IBAN bank account number to which you can pay the speeding ticket referring to the number on the back 505.39.xxxxxx in the online bank transfer.

skibum

Phil_Lives wrote: »

I'm assuming HD stands for Heidelberg and if you did 91kmph at the speed camera at Karlstor which is on the B37 then you deserve your 95euro fine if not much more. Seriously reckless to be travelling that fast there. I assume you were barging in front of another car where the two lanes merge in to one.

Phil_Lives wrote: »

As you haven't confirmed my suspicion that you travelling at reckless speeds as you entered the Altstadt from Neckargemund I'll assume I'm right.
I also assume at the top of the first page which you clipped there is an email address for the Ordnungsamt in Heidelberg. Send a mail in English FAO Herr Lustig explaining that you are not a German citizen and request an IBAN bank account number to which you can pay the speeding ticket referring to the number on the back 505.39.xxxxxx in the online bank transfer.

You seem to assume a lot Phil, were you driving behind some one on that particular stretch of road that was speeding / barging through traffic, or are you just assuming what happened?

Phil_Lives

Look who is making assumptions.
I live nearby and no I wasn't driving at 10 O'Clock at night past that painted grey fixed speed camera but I can imagine what the picture on the fine looks like with a surprised looking Suave.4u caught in the act.

keithclancy

Phil_Lives wrote: »

As you haven't confirmed my suspicion that you travelling at reckless speeds as you entered the Altstadt from Neckargemund I'll assume I'm right.
I also assume at the top of the first page which you clipped there is an email address for the Ordnungsamt in Heidelberg. Send a mail in English FAO Herr Lustig explaining that you are not a German citizen and request an IBAN bank account number to which you can pay the speeding ticket referring to the number on the back 505.39.xxxxxx in the online bank transfer.

In my experience you're better off doing nothing.
They either drop it or send you the actual fine with the IBAN details for payment.

91 adjusted in a 70 is hardly attempted murder, more like there's a noise restriction in place.

dudara

If you were driving a rental car, then the agency usually pays the fine on you behalf and charges it back to you.

The only speeding ticket I've ever received was in Germany, and it was all paid for by Hertz, who then sent me all the paperwork.

Phil_Lives

keithclancy wrote: »

In my experience you're better off doing nothing.
They either drop it or send you the actual fine with the IBAN details for payment.

91 adjusted in a 70 is hardly attempted murder, more like there's a noise restriction in place.

I drive through there at least twice every day and it is definitely not somewhere where it is appropriate to drive at 91kmph.

Don't ignore the fine. The Germans Authorities are dogged in their pursuit of people who break road traffic laws. There are no local helpful superintendents wiping your record on pulse.

Greenmachine

Phil_Lives wrote: »

I drive through there at least twice every day and it is definitely not somewhere where it is appropriate to drive at 91kmph.

Don't ignore the fine. The Germans Authorities are dogged in their pursuit of people who break road traffic laws. There are no local helpful superintendents wiping your record on pulse.

Wow talk about a moral crusader.

Phil_Lives

No, just know that you shouldn't be travelling fast at that particular spot because traffic backs up due to all the tourist coaches pulling in at Neckarmünzplatz which is about 100m further up the road. There is a reason for a speed limit there.

keithclancy

Phil_Lives wrote: »

I drive through there at least twice every day and it is definitely not somewhere where it is appropriate to drive at 91kmph.

Don't ignore the fine. The Germans Authorities are dogged in their pursuit of people who break road traffic laws. There are no local helpful superintendents wiping your record on pulse.

91 adjusted ... meaning it probably was closer to 100km/h on his speedo.

There's so many road signs in Germany its easy to miss a sign or make a mistake.

No need to get up on the high horse, in all honesty if he was on Irish plates nothing would happen .... and the German Authorities cannot and do not follow up on that

Sure they never caught that guy from the Muppets driving the UK plate car

Grayditch

User asks for help in paying fine.
User tells him he deserved the fine.

Ok.

Phil_Lives

The scans of the offical notices on the original post show he was driving a German registered car although the actual full kennzeichen is obscured.

keithclancy

Phil_Lives wrote: »

The scans of the offical notices on the original post show he was driving a German registered car although the actual full kennzeichen is obscured.

I know, just saying if he was on Irish plates he would have received nothing.

Phil_Lives

If he was on Irish plates he'd run the risk of being pulled by bored local traffic police for no particular reason on the autobahn just to mix it up from their usual boring drudgery of pulling in Dutch WohnWagens and LKWs.

suave.4u

Phil_Lives wrote: »

I'm assuming HD stands for Heidelberg and if you did 91kmph at the speed camera at Karlstor which is on the B37 then you deserve your 95euro fine if not much more. Seriously reckless to be travelling that fast there. I assume you were barging in front of another car where the two lanes merge in to one.

Thanks man.
I am not able to recollect correctly, but if I am not wrong, the mentioned blitzer was probably 1 KM from the Autoban exit. It was late in the night, the road was almost empty. Some cars started slowing down all of a sudden (guess they were locals and they knew the spot well) and I too started to slow, but missed the mark I guess. When the flash came on, I was sure that my PIC has been taken; but nothing happened for 2 months so I thought it was fine.
I know it is no excuse but it was my first time on the Autobahn in a nice swanky car where even 200 km/hr was smooth.
Anyways lesson is learnt. The bill is 95 fine+ 25 hertz admin fee+ 15 euros bank transfer fee= 135 bucks ;so i will sure be careful next time

suave.4u

Phil_Lives wrote: »

As you haven't confirmed my suspicion that you travelling at reckless speeds as you entered the Altstadt from Neckargemund I'll assume I'm right.
I also assume at the top of the first page which you clipped there is an email address for the Ordnungsamt in Heidelberg. Send a mail in English FAO Herr Lustig explaining that you are not a German citizen and request an IBAN bank account number to which you can pay the speeding ticket referring to the number on the back 505.39.xxxxxx in the online bank transfer.

Yes i will do that. Thanks

CiniO

keithclancy wrote: »

I know, just saying if he was on Irish plates he would have received nothing.

Are you sure about that?
I read on various polish forums that polish registered cars get their fines now in germany, and they get posted to polish address.
That's from approx mid of last year.

I was flashed once in Germany in Irish registered car and received nothing, but it was 4 years ago. So maybe things have changed.

PS - I'm not gonna reveal in which spot I was flashed, as knowing potential of this forum there surely be someone in minutes tellkng me he knows the spot exactly and its very dangerous place to be speeding

CiniO

Phil_Lives wrote: »

If he was on Irish plates he'd run the risk of being pulled by bored local traffic police for no particular reason on the autobahn just to mix it up from their usual boring drudgery of pulling in Dutch WohnWagens and LKWs.

Thats exactly what happen to me few months ago. They were watching with binoculars by the side of autobahn, and out of all the cars they've chosen me to pull over. They followed me, tailgated me for 5 minutes. Then overtook, displayed "folgen bitte, polizei" on their rear window, and took me 2km away from autobahn to petrol station. They checked my licence, insurance, vrc, nct, content of the boot, looked into my eyes and said aufwiedersehn (or whatever you spell it)

keithclancy

Phil_Lives wrote: »

If he was on Irish plates he'd run the risk of being pulled by bored local traffic police for no particular reason on the autobahn just to mix it up from their usual boring drudgery of pulling in Dutch WohnWagens and LKWs.

Hmm .. I drove my car while on secondment on Germany for a year and a half and never had a problem, was only ever stopped on the Autobahn once ever and that was by the Zoll.

Made a right turn once were I wasn't supposed to and the Police stopped me.

After 10 minutes he said, ok I remember you, don't do it again. I said I would pay the fine no problem, he said "Too much paper" and told me to be on my way :pac:

CiniO wrote: »

Are you sure about that?
I read on various polish forums that polish registered cars get their fines now in germany, and they get posted to polish address.
That's from approx mid of last year.

I was flashed once in Germany in Irish registered car and received nothing, but it was 4 years ago. So maybe things have changed.

PS - I'm not gonna reveal in which spot I was flashed, as knowing potential of this forum there surely be someone in minutes tellkng me he knows the spot exactly and its very dangerous place to be speeding

No, they still have no agreement, trust me

suave.4u

Thanks guys, issue solved.
I emailed them, they sent me the IBAN number and transferred the fund. They have sent a receipt now.
Thanks for your help.

Doom

galah wrote: »

You owe them 95 quid, but this letter just gives you an opportunity to make a statement about your speeding - whether you were the driver etc or whether you deny that it was you who they caught for example.

You don't have to make a statement, and they'll then decide what they'll do, issue a fine, closer the case, gather more info. If you want to make a statement you have to do this within one week. You must fill in the second part of the letter if the details aren't correct.

If you don't do anything they'll bring this issue further, although I'm not sure what the German police can do about a speeding fine.

That's the gist of it (on mobile so can't type an essay)...

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dodzy

suave.4u wrote: »

Thanks guys, issue solved.
I emailed them, they sent me the IBAN number and transferred the fund. They have sent a receipt now.
Thanks for your help.

I'd say Phil is happy now.

suave.4u

dodzy wrote: »

I'd say Phil is happy now.

Angela Merkel should be happy

Phil_Lives

German speeding fine system isn't a revenue generator or especially punitive. If you had been within a few km/h of the speed limit you would have been fined either 10 or 15 euro depending on the location/road classification with no penalty points as oppossed to 80 euro and 2/4 points in Ireland.

biko

Since OP got the help he requested we'll leave it before the bickering gets too bad.