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is it ok for a woman to get a man drunk

  • 09-05-2014 6:56pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi just wondering

    what do you guys think of your partner brought you home to meet her mother and they gave you alcohol to see how you are with alcohol in you.

    I mean she done this and didn't tell me at the time that she was planning to give me alcohol in her mothers to see how i am with alcohol in me.

    I think this is sneaky, showing lack of respect, sly and down right disrespectful to that person

    She saying whats your problem, did you not enjoy yourself, and women do it all the time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    what do you mean she gave you alcohol to see what you'd be like- that sounds a bit weird.

    Are you sure it wasn't just offering you a normal drink?

    why didn't you say no if you didn't want it?

    how was she sneaky, did she spike you and not tell you it contained alcohol+
    sorry I don't get this, it is weird, first i've heard of anyone doing this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Was she giving you a drink to relax you, or trying to get you drunk as some kind of test?

    If it was a test, that's a pretty nasty, ****ty thing to do and absolutely NOT normal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Boombastic wrote: »
    what do you mean she gave you alcohol to see what you'd be like- that sounds a bit weird.

    Are you sure it wasn't just offering you a normal drink?

    sorry I don't get this, it is weird, first i've heard of anyone doing this

    She brought me to meet her mother, her mother gave us all alcohol to drink

    No she was not offering normal drink, she told me later that she asked her mother to give me alcohol so see what i am like with alcohol in me, if i am placid, violent or rowdy with alcohol in me etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I'm sorry but I cannot understand this attitude in the slightest. There is nothing to complain about in somebody offering you alcohol. It is your choice whether to accept or reject it. The only way there's something wrong going on here is if somebody pours the alcohol down your throat and I'm assuming that's not what happened here? Also there's quite a misogynistic vibe to the accusation that "women do it all the time". I'm a woman and I've never seen any woman do this, anywhere, any time.


  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,957 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    Did she offer you an alcoholic drink and then keep topping you glass up in a kind of 'mrs doyle ah sure go on have another one' way to see if you knew where your limit was or did she give you a drink and 'spike' it with alcohol, so that you were unknowingly getting drunk?

    Either way it's not on to try and 'test' you like that, but if she gave you alcohol unbeknownst to you then that's definitely wrong.

    Think about it if the gender were reversed and some guy was plying his girlfriend with alcohol without her knowledge, there'd be no question of it being wrong. TBH, she doesn't sound like someone who you'd want to have a relationship with.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭Lou.m


    itsow wrote: »
    Hi just wondering

    what do you guys think of your partner brought you home to meet her mother and they gave you alcohol to see how you are with alcohol in you.

    I mean she done this and didn't tell me at the time that she was planning to give me alcohol in her mothers to see how i am with alcohol in me.

    I think this is sneaky, showing lack of respect, sly and down right disrespectful to that person

    She saying whats your problem, did you not enjoy yourself, and women do it all the time.

    No it's very nasty. Very underhanded and manipulative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    Jeez. Some families are weird.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Perhaps the mother was trying to be a good host and kept his drink topped up? It could be that the girl laughed it off as wanting to see what kind of drunk he is. If everyone was drinking, I can't see some conspiracy afoot to test his character.

    Presumably he didn't lose the ability to say no.

    If you were spiked or forced in some way, of course it's not right. If you just felt you couldn't say no, then be more assertive next time. If you feel you were being tested and she was serious about it - run a mile. Fast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP here again
    To clarify matters, my drink was not spike with alcohol, i was offer alcohol by the mother and took it, yes it was top up, yes i accepted the drink as did not think anything off it.

    MY PARTNER TOLD ME LATER THAT SHE ASKED HER MOTHER TO GIVE ME ALCOHOL AND TO TOP IT UP SO SHE CAN SEE WHAT WAY I AM WITH ALCOHOL IN ME.

    That is not being a nice host.


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,914 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    You were offered drink. You accepted the drink, and you accepted the top ups. Your gf using the phrase "want to see what you're like with drink in you" is just a phrase. I'm sure she wasn't sitting there with pen and paper taking notes.

    If you felt she was not being a good host you could have said no, or you could have not drank it.

    Do you normally drink? I don't think it was a "test", as such. I just think she wanted you to have a few drinks, and used that phrase. Again, if you didn't want to drink you could have declined or sipped very slowly.

    If a man was offering a woman drink and topping her up etc, she would equally be told to decline or don't drink it if she didn't want to. You are adults (I assume) and capable of speaking up for yourself.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    I find the thought of some girl and her mother discussing ahead of time a way to test me (regardless of the nature of the test or the fact I wasn't being held down and forced to comply) out for suitability as a boyfriend quite creepy and unattractive behaviour tbh. Quite a turn off for a number of reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Free beer - sounds a good deal to me! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭daisybelle2008


    itsow wrote: »
    OP here again
    To clarify matters, my drink was not spike with alcohol, i was offer alcohol by the mother and took it, yes it was top up, yes i accepted the drink as did not think anything off it.

    MY PARTNER TOLD ME LATER THAT SHE ASKED HER MOTHER TO GIVE ME ALCOHOL AND TO TOP IT UP SO SHE CAN SEE WHAT WAY I AM WITH ALCOHOL IN ME.

    That is not being a nice host.

    I agree with strobe, I also find it a bit weird that herself and her mother would discuss and pre plan such a thing to keep tabs on your behaviour. It is clear the were not trying to spike you but it was some kind of test. Telling a third party to keep you topped up so they can judge how you behave is odd.
    I think if the genders were reversed people would say it was creepy and strange. She sounds a bit of an oddball. Is there anything else about her behaviour that concerns you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭Tilly


    itsow wrote: »
    OP here again
    To clarify matters, my drink was not spike with alcohol, i was offer alcohol by the mother and took it, yes it was top up, yes i accepted the drink as did not think anything off it.

    MY PARTNER TOLD ME LATER THAT SHE ASKED HER MOTHER TO GIVE ME ALCOHOL AND TO TOP IT UP SO SHE CAN SEE WHAT WAY I AM WITH ALCOHOL IN ME.

    That is not being a nice host.
    I feel you're being dramatic. You have a tongue in your head so should have used it if you didn't want to drink. Her comment after could have been said in jest or maybe she did want to see what kind of drunk you are. Either way, you were not forced to drink. That is on your head, not hers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    Any kind of "test" devised by some girl and her mother just sounds like the plans of two people so warped, immature and moronically stupid that I've got to wonder why you'd associate with such people at all. Do they have some kind of reduced mental capacity that they think plying someone with alcohol to "test" them is a good idea? To then tell you of the plan suggests to me that you've been given the lucky break - the writing is on the wall, run and run fast. What next would the fools think up, perhaps to pay a beautiful woman to flirt with you to "test" you or maybe fake a pregnancy to "test" how you are in a crisis.

    I'd strongly suggest you tell both of these weirdos to seek help for their mental health issues and move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭topcatcbr


    I don't think I'd be happy if I knew I was being monitored and tested by my OH.

    It's not OK behaviour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    It's an odd one. I mean, you happily accepted the drink and the top ups, so if you got drunk, that's your own doing.

    However, there's something really bizarre about a mother and daughter sitting down to devise a plan to get you drunk to see how you would act.

    Has your girlfriend gone out with any people that were nasty/aggressive while under the influence? If she has, i can kind of understand where she's coming from, but I don't thinj it's excusable to deliberately 'test' you.

    If you're 100% certain that she pre-planned this, and isn't joking around, I think you need to ask her why she felt the need to 'test' you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    it is very odd that the woman and her daughter conspired to get you drunk. but by the same token you took it knowingly and willingly.


    my friends an I would ofteb say, x is coming over, we'll get tghem drunk. this does not mean we will force them with stink, or we'll spike them or put them , to any sort of test- out just means to have drink here if the feel like it.




    you could have said no, you could have walked away, instead you drunk it.
    Did you act out with the drink on you and are looking for someone to blame instead of yourself?

    are you still with the girlfriend?

    this bit of your post jumped out at me:

    She brought me to meet her mother, her mother gave us all alcohol to drink

    No she was not offering normal drink, she told me later that she asked her mother to give me alcohol so see what i am like with alcohol in me, if i am placid, violent or rowdy with alcohol in me



    where you the only one to be given alcohol while the others where given soft drinks?


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,914 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    I don't think it was pre-planned or pre-meditated etc. I think it was a case of "Give him a drink". I have had family members (in-laws) say to me "I'd love to see you with a few drinks in you". Because I don't usually drink. My husband likes a few drinks and I'm not too bothered, so I usually end up being the designated driver.

    His family aren't out to trick me or test me etc. They are all big drinkers. My family isn't. I have often heard "give her a drink".And "I'd love to see what you're like with a few drinks in you". I have never felt threatened or tested, because I trust that these people like me!

    Do you trust that your gf likes you? If so then put this down to a turn of phrase. Are you Irish by the way? Often things can get lost in translation.

    If you trust that your gf likes you then trust that she wasn't trying to trick you or test you. If you don't trust that she likes you and think she deliberately "set you up", then maybe you shouldn't be with her.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭tom_tarbucket


    itsow wrote: »
    She brought me to meet her mother, her mother gave us all alcohol to drink

    No she was not offering normal drink, she told me later that she asked her mother to give me alcohol so see what i am like with alcohol in me, if i am placid, violent or rowdy with alcohol in me etc

    So this bird must know you a decent amount of time I.e. That you are at the stage of meeting her mother.

    But in her time with you, she has never seen you with alcohol ?

    Sounds weird


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    How long are you with this girl OP? Does her mother know you well at all, know your background, your family?

    This is out of left field but you don't sound like English is your mother tongue. Could her mother have some crazy idea that you come from a woman domineering culture that beat their wives when drunk?

    Crazy I know but it could be innocent enough with her only concerned for the welfare of her daughter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭Idle Passerby


    I find this story quite odd. So your girlfriend wanted to get you hammered to see if you are a violent drunk...in her mothers house...with her mothers help? Did they think you'd automatically turn into a psycho without provocation just because you've been given a few drinks at what I assume was a polite get together?

    If your girlfriend and her mum were deliberately trying to get you so drunk you'd behave inappropriately then yes that is worrying and totally bonkers logic on their part.

    Do they have reason to suspect you are an unpredictable drunk? Even if they do, it still makes no sense. If your girlfriend is that worried about how you are with alcohol I cant fathom why she'd bring you home to test the theory in her parents house.

    Are you sure you are not reading too much into her saying they were trying to see what you were like with drink? Either that or your girlfriend is nuts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    This is the most ridiculous thread - with the most histrionic and inappropriate responses - that I have read in a very long time. Here's the reality of the situation:

    1 - OP's girlfriend wondered what he'd be like with a couple of drinks on him, as she clearly hasn't seen him drink before.

    2 - She mentioned this to her mother and in the mildest sort of silliness they agreed to offer him a drink, and then a top-up.

    3 - He accepted both.

    4 - OP's girlfriend then mentioned this to him, which obviously she wouldn't have had she thought she'd done anything untoward.

    5 - OP reacts as though he'd been strapped down by two dangerous booze-inflicting women ("women do it all the time" Lol!) and had booze forced down his throat.

    The End.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Also there's quite a misogynistic vibe to the accusation that "women do it all the time".

    "women do it all the time" Lol!.

    Yeah you've focused on that in both your posts. Unless I'm very much mistaken you've read that part wrong. That's what the OP's gf said to him. That women do this all the time. They don't. It's really weird


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭FurBabyMomma


    Why is this even an issue? You're an adult and it's up to you to decide whether you accept offers of alcohol or not. Did you drink too much and make a show of yourself and now you want to blame some big conspiracy? If not just forget about it, curiosity about how you handle your drink us hardly something to get so indignant about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭missjm


    If you were aware you were being offered alcohol and accepted it willingly then you were not in any way tricked. I sense a certain defensiveness from you regarding accepting alcoholic drinks. Have you had issues with alcohol in the past and reacted badly and need to appropriate blame? I can't help but get that vibe from the post? Perhaps you haven't explained the situation well enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭bee06


    Obviously you choose to accept the drinks but I find it strange that she was testing you at all with her mother in cahoots. I assume ye haven't been going out very long?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hannibal Smith


    I don't think it was pre-planned or pre-meditated etc. I think it was a case of "Give him a drink". I have had family members (in-laws) say to me "I'd love to see you with a few drinks in you". Because I don't usually drink. My husband likes a few drinks and I'm not too bothered, so I usually end up being the designated driver.

    His family aren't out to trick me or test me etc. They are all big drinkers. My family isn't. I have often heard "give her a drink".And "I'd love to see what you're like with a few drinks in you". I have never felt threatened or tested, because I trust that these people like me!

    Do you trust that your gf likes you? If so then put this down to a turn of phrase. Are you Irish by the way? Often things can get lost in translation.

    If you trust that your gf likes you then trust that she wasn't trying to trick you or test you. If you don't trust that she likes you and think she deliberately "set you up", then maybe you shouldn't be with her.

    The op said it was pre planned. He said his girlfriend told him she had planned with the mother to give him drink to see how he handled it. All he knew was he was being offered a drink he didn't know it was a test.

    Op I wonder has the girlfriend had some sort of bad experience with someone and their drinking? If there's a demon there her behaviour can be explained.

    It can't however be excused. ..its not on for her to plan something behind your back. That said she didn't spike your drink. ..you knew what you were drinking at all times and though I would be annoyed too its not like she was doing it for sinister reasons


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭nc19


    itsow wrote: »
    OP here again
    To clarify matters, my drink was not spike with alcohol, i was offer alcohol by the mother and took it, yes it was top up, yes i accepted the drink as did not think anything off it.

    MY PARTNER TOLD ME LATER THAT SHE ASKED HER MOTHER TO GIVE ME ALCOHOL AND TO TOP IT UP SO SHE CAN SEE WHAT WAY I AM WITH ALCOHOL IN ME.

    That is not being a nice host.


    How long have you been with this woman that she has never seen you with drink on you???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    nc19 wrote: »
    How long have you been with this woman that she has never seen you with drink on you???

    How Irish!

    I don't see why that's an issue really. Myself and my husband didn't drink together for a long time because we were busy doing other things & getting to know eachother!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Tilly wrote: »
    I feel you're being dramatic. You have a tongue in your head so should have used it if you didn't want to drink. Her comment after could have been said in jest or maybe she did want to see what kind of drunk you are. Either way, you were not forced to drink. That is on your head, not hers!

    Of course he had the option to decline the drink.

    Its not about being forced to drink or accepting a drink either.

    Its the fact that it was a pre planned decision to observe him whilst he was having a drink, and to offer him a drink for this purpose.

    Which is pretty weird imo.

    If he was offered a drink on a sociable and friendly basis then I agree with what you say.

    But planning this ahead is not normal behaviour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    itsow wrote: »
    OP here again
    To clarify matters, my drink was not spike with alcohol, i was offer alcohol by the mother and took it, yes it was top up, yes i accepted the drink as did not think anything off it.

    MY PARTNER TOLD ME LATER THAT SHE ASKED HER MOTHER TO GIVE ME ALCOHOL AND TO TOP IT UP SO SHE CAN SEE WHAT WAY I AM WITH ALCOHOL IN ME.

    That is not being a nice host.

    A lot of people are saying that the OP said it was pre-planned. I don't think from what was posted that that level of planning was involved. She probably just followed her mother into the kitchen when she was going to get some drinks and said 'sure give him a beer/spirits etc, i've never seen him drink alcohol, I wonder what he's like'

    OP, maybe it is a little strange, but at the same time you didn't have to have any alcohol.


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,914 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    I'm guessing that English isn't the OP's first language, so I am taking the use of "planned" quite loosely.

    We don't know if your gf "planned it" ahead of time with her mother. We don't know if her mother asked your gf if you'd like a drink, or if she should offer you a drink etc. There's too little information and it's not clear (you don't even seem that clear yourself) how this came about. Your gf didn't "get you drunk". You were offered drink and you accepted it. It's not even clear if you were actually drunk, or just thought that your gf was trying to get you drunk.

    Without getting your gf's version it's impossible to know the exact scenario. So it comes down to your interpretation. Phrases she used like "see what you're like with drink in you" are common phrases in Ireland... Especially amongst people who enjoy a drink themselves.

    Only you can decide if your gf was being "Irish"or being mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Nobody 'gets you drunk' OP. You've a mind of your own. If you don't want to be drunk, don't drink.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭nc19


    How Irish!

    I don't see why that's an issue really. Myself and my husband didn't drink together for a long time because we were busy doing other things & getting to know eachother!

    Well most people, not just Irish, would have had cause to have a drink together at some stage in their early days be it due to having the same friends and meeting as a group(most people would use a pub as a meeting place) or whatever

    i certainly would not be putting 'meeting the parents' above 'dinking together' on my to do list


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP here again

    For posters that says i got drunk or they that my partner and her mother conspired to get me drunk ... I never said i got drunk or that they conspired to get me drunk, i said they wanted to see how i was with alcohol in me .... just because i have alcohol me in doesn't mean i got drunk.

    To the posters that said i don't think it was pre-planned or pre-meditated ... if they offer me drink to be social then its not pre-planned or pre-mediitated i agree but when my partner turned around and told me that she asked her mother to give me alcohol ... (this is not pre-planned or pre-meditated but the next words out of her mouth -( SO I CAN SEE WHAT I AM LIKE WITH ALCOHOL IN ME) that is pre-planned and pre-meditated as she wanted to see what i was like with alcohol in me and not to be socialable.

    To the posters that say is English my mother language .... oh please what has that got to do with it ? and to answer you question and elaborate ... I am Irish, Irish is my Mother Language and English is my Second Language.

    To the poster that says op reacts as he was strapped down by two dangerous women ... i never said that or implied that so i can't see how you came to that conclusion, unless ......
    And i also never said i had drink forced down my throat ... so i don't know where you saw me saying that or implying that ... but i guest that your think its acceptable what she done which i think was sly, disrespectful, and i even go as far as saying not fit to be called human let alone female.

    To the poster that asks how long am i with my partner and has she never seen me with alcohol in me .... well has she ever seen me with alcohol in me ... yes she has when i visited her mother with herself ... before then NO ... and the reason is that i don't drink much as i do sports and the sports i do, i don't drink alcohol much. As far as how long i being with her ... i being with her long enough that i taught i knew her and she felt comfortable telling me what she done ...

    I never said i got drunk so please don't imply that i got drunk, i say they wanted to see me with alcohol in me ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭FurBabyMomma


    Ok. So they wanted to see what you were like with alcohol in you. And they did - you were fine and you didn't get drunk. That's good!

    I honestly don't know what you're getting all worked up and shouty caps locked about. Why are you making this into a big deal? When I was dating my husband I also at some stage wanted to know what he was like with drink on him. This was important as no way would I have married someone who was a nasty drunk. Many people have alcoholics in their family and are wary of what drink can do to people.

    They wanted to see how you handled your drink. You handled it well. That's it. It's hardly the Roswell conspiracy. Honestly I'm more concerned about how you're acting now, as this overdramatic ranting, shouting and making an issue of this natural curiosity to strangers to get validation of how right you are to be so worked up is a lot more worrying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    I am going to make a daring prediction and say that this relationship will not last.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 519 ✭✭✭YumCha


    OP, I'm not sure what you're looking for here as I can only echo what everyone else has said.

    If you'd said that they'd spiked your drink, or attempted to drug you - then I'd consider your reaction proportionate. As it stands her behaviour and justification are a little weird for sure - but it doesn't sound like something that couldn't be sorted out through a chat.

    Given that it seems you want to remain AS AGGRIEVED AS POSSIBLE I don't know where you can go from here - if you really believe your girlfriend is all the things you're repeatedly said she is in this thread then why are you still with her?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    If she introduced you to her mother she presumably likes you.

    At the beginning of a relationship we (people - not women alone) are interested in our partner and will take note of how our partner behaves in situations. Eg, I introduce to to my friends so that I can see if you and them are a fit; I introduce you to my family because I want to see if you will all get along. I don't see what the big problem is if, when giving you a drink that you knew about and accepted your girlfriend wanted to see how it would affect you.

    But you clearly do have a problem with it. I'm guessing you cannot handle it when anybody is "judging" you - and I think you take a normal judgement this way. I think this is reflected in your response to people who answered your question and gave their asked for opinion.

    I think you should be less sensitive to normal human interactions.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    So it wasn't some malicious thing, she just wanted to see what you were like under the influence?

    That's not half as big a deal than if they had deliberately set out to get you hammered drunk.

    I think you're overreacting a bit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭Rekop dog


    If this is how you react to things without alcohol "in you" I'm not sure what sort of sadistic person your gf is if she wants to see you with it.

    I suggest you read back over your posts here and if you genuinely believe what you're writing I think you need to seek help as you've quite the warped perspective on some simple things in life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    itsow wrote: »
    OP here again

    For posters that says i got drunk or they that my partner and her mother conspired to get me drunk ... I never said i got drunk or that they conspired to get me drunk, i said they wanted to see how i was with alcohol in me .... just because i have alcohol me in doesn't mean i got drunk.

    To the posters that said i don't think it was pre-planned or pre-meditated ... if they offer me drink to be social then its not pre-planned or pre-mediitated i agree but when my partner turned around and told me that she asked her mother to give me alcohol ... (this is not pre-planned or pre-meditated but the next words out of her mouth -( SO I CAN SEE WHAT I AM LIKE WITH ALCOHOL IN ME) that is pre-planned and pre-meditated as she wanted to see what i was like with alcohol in me and not to be socialable.

    To the posters that say is English my mother language .... oh please what has that got to do with it ? and to answer you question and elaborate ... I am Irish, Irish is my Mother Language and English is my Second Language.

    To the poster that says op reacts as he was strapped down by two dangerous women ... i never said that or implied that so i can't see how you came to that conclusion, unless ......
    And i also never said i had drink forced down my throat ... so i don't know where you saw me saying that or implying that ... but i guest that your think its acceptable what she done which i think was sly, disrespectful, and i even go as far as saying not fit to be called human let alone female.

    To the poster that asks how long am i with my partner and has she never seen me with alcohol in me .... well has she ever seen me with alcohol in me ... yes she has when i visited her mother with herself ... before then NO ... and the reason is that i don't drink much as i do sports and the sports i do, i don't drink alcohol much. As far as how long i being with her ... i being with her long enough that i taught i knew her and she felt comfortable telling me what she done ...

    I never said i got drunk so please don't imply that i got drunk, i say they wanted to see me with alcohol in me ....


    the title of the thread says 'drunk'

    anyway, you were not forced or tricked. They offered, you accepted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Lillibeth


    Well I think people are being harsh on the op. I think it's totally unacceptable for anyone to purposely provide alcohol with the intention of provoking a reaction. The op took the gesture as being a social gesture and accepted this gesture....nothing wrong with that at all. But the intention behind the gesture was not social, it was experimental. I can understand your upset op and I think you should speak to your gf about it.

    I also think that the replies would be very different if the op was female and her boyfriend planned this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    To be honest OP if you're describing your girlfriend as 'not fit to be called human let alone female' you should break up with her and let her be with someone who isn't so dramatic and doesn't take things out of perspective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    Lillibeth wrote: »
    Well I think people are being harsh on the op. I think it's totally unacceptable for anyone to purposely provide alcohol with the intention of provoking a reaction. The op took the gesture as being a social gesture and accepted this gesture....nothing wrong with that at all. But the intention behind the gesture was not social, it was experimental. I can understand your upset op and I think you should speak to your gf about it.

    I also think that the replies would be very different if the op was female and her boyfriend planned this.


    I agree. What makes the situation strange is that is was carried out by the girlfriend and an outside party, the mother. OP seemed quite wound up on the last post alright, but maybe he's just on the defence as everyone is disagreeing with him, which is probably due to us not having enough facts or context to go on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭Idle Passerby


    In light you your recent post, I have no idea what the issue is. You were in a house and were offered a drink or two. By your own admission they weren't even giving you enough to get you drunk. Unless you are very unaccustomed to alcohol it sounds like you weren't drinking enough to have any real effect on how you behaved and you took it willingly either way. You might as well be getting outraged over them offering you sugar in your tea to see what you are like with sugar in you.


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,914 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    itsow wrote: »
    For they that my partner and her mother conspired to get me drunk ... I never said i got drunk or that they conspired to get me drunk
    I never said i got drunk so please don't imply that i got drunk, i say they wanted to see me with alcohol in me ....

    Your thread title is "is it ok for a woman to get a man drunk" So please excuse people assuming that your gf "got you drunk".

    You are over-reacting. Break up with your gf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭liz lemoncello


    itsow wrote: »
    ... but i guest that your think its acceptable what she done which i think was sly, disrespectful, and i even go as far as saying not fit to be called human let alone female.

    Perhaps it was the way in which the OP's girlfriend told him about this that he find upsetting.

    OP, the title of your thread was "is it ok for a woman to get a man drunk". I think you might be better asking if it is ok for a girlfriend to "test" her boyfriend in this way. To me, it sounds like game-playing and the fact that her mother was involved sounds strange.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭blackbird98


    what I can't understand is that your partner wanted to see what you were like with alcohol in you..........this implies that you haven't had a drink with your partner before this.......that's weird


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