Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

Mitch Connor

very annoyed that the LVG deal is still up in the air - should be done and dusted by now. The talk of it being delayed simply because of the Ecuador game at the weekend didn't wash with me then, and it is looking even more like BS now - considering today is a rest day for the Dutch squad and we've still not announced it. The deal can't be agreed, or it would have been announced. the longer it goes the more it appears like United are making a pigs ear of it just like they did everything they attempted last summer.

Will I Amnt

Mitch Connor wrote: »

very annoyed that the LVG deal is still up in the air - should be done and dusted by now. The talk of it being delayed simply because of the Ecuador game at the weekend didn't wash with me then, and it is looking even more like BS now - considering today is a rest day for the Dutch squad and we've still not announced it. The deal can't be agreed, or it would have been announced. the longer it goes the more it appears like United are making a pigs ear of it just like they did everything they attempted last summer.

Where did that talk come from?

Mitch Connor

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Where did that talk come from?

Loads of press were saying it over the weekend - that is what the club were briefing.

Will I Amnt

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Loads of press were saying it over the weekend - that is what the club were briefing.

As you have probably gathered by now, I'm quite cynical when it comes to the press. I'd be looking at that and thinking it's a cover story for not getting it right last week...

Reedsie

jaykay74 wrote: »

Is he ? I must have missed those accounts.

He's considered dim by footballers. Now that's saying something. Great intelligence on the pitch of course, but off it... nope.

I have no links and won't go looking for them but I'm sure you'll find them if you so wish.

Will I Amnt

Paddy_R wrote: »

He's considered dim by footballers. Now that's saying something. Great intelligence on the pitch of course, but off it... nope.

I have no links and won't go looking for them but I'm sure you'll find them if you so wish.

Comes across as intelligent and articulate in any interviews I've seen of him. Moreso than most footballers TBF.

Reedsie

It was also reported that the delay was due to (minor) tax details that needed ironing out.

Whatever the reason I'm sure it's pretty insignificant and he'll sign in good time.

tallaghtmick

No need to worry Bangkok's bro will let us know.

Fenix

bangkok wrote: »

well the thinking was that they wanted him badly and they thought they would never need to sell him....

this is the same barca that paid 60m or something plus etoo to inter Milan and got rid of him after one year and the same barca that paid 40m to neymars parents!!!

I'm well aware they've had some head scratching transfers in the past, however I can remember reading an article last year when all the talk was fab to utd, it explained the common misconception that the 50% buy on clause was for total fee, writer was completely adamant that 50 was on the excess only! (Above £35m) which does make a lot more sense.

FutureGuy

tallaghtmick wrote: »

No need to worry Bangkok's bro will let us know.

Bro in the know (TM)

bucketybuck

Paddy_R wrote: »

It was also reported that the delay was due to (minor) tax details that needed ironing out.

Whatever the reason I'm sure it's pretty insignificant and he'll sign in good time.

I would be interested in hearing what minor tax details are preventing a massive company like Manchester United offering somebody a job?

More to the point, football managers are appointed with an insane frequency, how is it that only Manchester United appear to be struggling with these minor tax details? Perhaps we should contact Fulham, see how they were able to appoint Felix Magath so quickly?

RobertKK

RobertKK wrote: »

United should go for either Fabregas or Kroos, then someone like Vidal to partner.

Midfield sorted.

Getting one of those 3 would be difficult. Getting two is probably fantasy stuff.

Reedsie

bucketybuck wrote: »

I would be interested in hearing what minor tax details are preventing a massive company like Manchester United offering somebody a job?

More to the point, football managers are appointed with an insane frequency, how is it that only Manchester United appear to be struggling with these minor tax details? Perhaps we should contact Fulham, see how they were able to appoint Felix Magath so quickly?

I presumed the minor tax details had to do with van Gaal rather than United.

brinty

FutureGuy wrote: »

Bro in the know (TM)

Damn it FutureGuy, you beat me to it

I was going with
bangkok's bro, the man in the know, oh well...

bucketybuck

Paddy_R wrote: »

I presumed the minor tax details had to do with van Gaal rather than United.

What, he loses his child support if he signs a contract? He wants cash in hand or something?

Reedsie

bucketybuck wrote: »

What, he loses his child support if he signs a contract? He wants cash in hand or something?

Probably not either of those.

tallaghtmick

He could want a certain amount after tax and wants United to cover it.

J. Marston

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Me - because we have to announce it once it is actually done - we can't hide a managerial appointment from the stock exchange. The fact it hasn't been announced, means it isn't actually agreed and signed off.

We can't hide anything from it. Transfers affect it too apparently. Annoying that it has become another outlet for all kinds of speculation.

"But the stock exchange...."

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Fun quotes from Dutch reporter Marcel van der Kraan

Those quotes were from The Press Pass show on Talksport yesterday. I wouldn't pay too much attention to them, the Dutch journalist was telling all the English journalists who present the show exactly what they wanted to hear. There was lots of laughing and "Oh, I can't wait for all this...." crap going on.

On a side-note, Tony Evans is an arsehole.

homerjay2005

Paddy_R wrote: »

I presumed the minor tax details had to do with van Gaal rather than United.

first it was Thiago and his tax problems.
then it was Herrera.
now its Van Gaal.

either the media are gobs*ites or we need a new accountant at Old Trafford.

jaykay74

Paddy_R wrote: »

He's considered dim by footballers. Now that's saying something. Great intelligence on the pitch of course, but off it... nope.

I have no links and won't go looking for them but I'm sure you'll find them if you so wish.

Nah, you're grand I'm not bothered, I'II just ignore your point.

Corvo

Lads, I dont get the almost bed wetting like talk from some over Van Gaal's appointment. Its not so much a matter of if but more when and what does it matter if he is appointed (offically) now or next week? He wont have an involvement bar naming transfer targets to Woodward until after the World Cup. There has been far too much talk of his appointment from very good sources since Moyes was still in the job. I understand that after last summer, some would have major doubts over Ed Woodwards ability to close off contracts - either for players or in this case, a manager, but it takes time. Wages, bonuses, contractual arrangements, possible renewals once the contract ends, transfer warchests - the to-ing and fro-ing like in any job, except on a larger scale all under the spotlight of the media.

Anyway, I can't wait to see him come in and shake the place up. His Friday press conferences will be fantastic and I cant wait to see his influence on our style of play with hopefully some much more technical players coming in, the midfield bulking up and becoming more aggressive, the introduction of young players into the side, his utter intolerance for indiviuality instead promoting a unit capable of smothering teams into submission.

Its going to be very exciting, so lets get some positivity in here. Hell, even the Boards.ie favourite argument creator - Nani, may see a place in the side as part of the 4-3-3 the manager favours.

As for the captaincy, it probably will be Van Persie as some outlets (I believe) have reported but my own personal choice would be Rooney. Yes, yes - he's a total twat with regards the Man City moments but he's one of the longest serving and experienced players out there. If Van Gaal favours a stong team ethic then he may see Rooney as epitomising that on the pitch.

Blatter

jamie jackson ‏@JamieJackson___
There is growing confidence that Louis Van Gaal could be announced as #mufc manager imminently today...

ericzeking

I think it makes it easier for LVG to deflect questions about United if he hasn't been officially unveiled, "I'm not the manager, ask United"....when really he is the manager....... my thinking would be that he gets announced pretty close to the start of the WC so that then, the world cup that is, is the main story and United talk is put on the back burner til he's done with that.

I reckon it's all just a media management exercise to minimise disruption to the Dutch WC bid.

jonnyfingers

FutureGuy wrote: »

Bro in the know (TM)

This needs to be a twitter account.

In fact we should try it and see if we can get some rumours on Sky Sports News as their "Sky Sources" as someone speculated over the weekend.

Blatter

Dan Roan just tweeted ''LVG stand by''


Would expect this to be announced any time now.

Pepe LeFrits

Fenix wrote: »

I'm well aware they've had some head scratching transfers in the past, however I can remember reading an article last year when all the talk was fab to utd, it explained the common misconception that the 50% buy on clause was for total fee, writer was completely adamant that 50 was on the excess only! (Above £35m) which does make a lot more sense.

Does it?

Arsenal selling their captain & talisman at age 25 for £35m plus 50% of **** all doesn't make much sense either.

If Barcelona felt it unlikely that Fabregas would ever leave, including a clause of 50% of a full transfer fee would be considered a good deal for getting the asking price down.

Lord TSC

Blatter wrote: »

Dan Roan just tweeted ''LVG stand by''


Would expect this to be announced any time now.

Dont see a tweet.

Blatter

Blatter wrote: »

Dan Roan just tweeted ''LVG stand by''


Would expect this to be announced any time now.

bucketybuck

tallaghtmick wrote: »

He could want a certain amount after tax and wants United to cover it.

That would be a reasonable guess, similar to the type of demand many players would have. In which case, it shouldn't take weeks upon weeks to sort out.

xtal191

James Ducker ‏@DuckerTheTimes 57s

United announcement at 2pm, finally

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