E3 Discussion Thread

gizmo

COYVB wrote: »

You'll get the master chief collection on PC anyway, it'll just be a bit of a wait. Frankie already said it was something they'll probably do when they have the manpower available

343 have nothing to do with the MC Collection so it'll be completely up to MS on that one. As such, it'll be well after the XBox One collection is released since they're touting it as a big platform release.

tok9

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I was sorry to see no real new hardware at the E3.
By that I mean the two VR systems.
I expected a big push but, it seems not.
Could Morpheus be getting held back for the TGS I wonder?
and what about the Rift?
Perhaps too, the brevity of the Nintendo Direct show was due to the portion dedicated to the Quality of life hardware was edited out, maybe?
Again, being held for the TGS instead?

I just don't think you can show much regarding VR. Clearly, neither are coming out till late 2015 at the earliest. I genuinely can't believe we're still waiting on the Rift consumer version. It's feels like it's been around forever at this stage.

Think I'll go to Eurogamer expo here and hope Rift is playable again and Morpheus is playable. Would be very happy with that.

Deano7788

SeantheMan wrote: »

Isn't the Metro just something you read for entertainment when on a bus or train, found of the seat beside you.

I never rely on it for factual information and certainly wouldn't quote it.

A lot of it's articles are taken from other sources anyways

It is but the figures were actually accurate. I remember reading it in more reputable sources at the time. It changes pretty much every day anyway so I wouldn't place much emphasis on it, especially in a games forum!

Sephiroth_dude

I'll be buying a Wii u next year so I can play new xenoblade game,new Zelda game and monster hunter 4 u :-D.

Deano7788

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

I'll be buying a Wii u next year so I can play new xenoblade game,new Zelda game and monster hunter 4 u :-D.

I thought Monster Hunter was only 3DS.

Grumpypants

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I was sorry to see no real new hardware at the E3.
By that I mean the two VR systems.
I expected a big push but, it seems not.
Could Morpheus be getting held back for the TGS I wonder?
and what about the Rift?
Perhaps too, the brevity of the Nintendo Direct show was due to the portion dedicated to the Quality of life hardware was edited out, maybe?
Again, being held for the TGS instead?

Both VR systems are at E3, Sony have three games/tech demos showing on Morpheus at their booth.

CCP have the Rift at theirs, they had it behind closed doors last year at Gamescom I got to test out Valkyrie and yes it is amazing.

The problem with VR is it is pretty much impossible to show off at a presentation that will be broadcast on a 2D screen. You either end up showing one screen which looks the same as normal or you show the dual screens which is not much good either at getting across the experience.

It really is one of those things that you think might be cool. Then you get to use one and you will never want to play a game any other way ever again.

Maximus Alexander

The thing about VR systems is, while they seem cool, I just can't really imagine myself ever sitting on the couch with a helmet on.

ShadowHearth

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

The thing about VR systems is, while they seem cool, I just can't really imagine myself ever sitting on the couch with a helmet on.

Oh **** son, I do! I cant wait until I look like a jack ass 6 hours a day with some stuff on my face. The price of looking dumb is well worth VR.
After trying out Oculus, I just cant wait for proper consumer version.

ShadowHearth

Deano7788 wrote: »

I thought Monster Hunter was only 3DS.

It is. Slap Monster Hunter 4 u on Wii U and then I am reconsidering my relationship with Nintendo and Wii U.

Mickeroo

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Oh **** son, I do! I cant wait until I look like a jack ass 6 hours a day with some stuff on my face. The price of looking dumb is well worth VR.
After trying out Oculus, I just cant wait for proper consumer version.

It's going to end up just like the "Better Than Life" VR helmets in Red Dwarf. We'll all be homeless Oculus junkies lying around in alley ways.

Xenji

Deano7788 wrote: »

I thought Monster Hunter was only 3DS.

You can play the online mode on your Wii U.

ShadowHearth

Mickeroo wrote: »

It's going to end up just like the "Better Than Life" VR helmets in Red Dwarf. We'll all be homeless Oculus junkies lying around in alley ways.

That actually really really puts me in a mood for some Red Dwarf marathon lol!

Maximus Alexander

Mickeroo wrote: »

It's going to end up just like the "Better Than Life" VR helmets in Red Dwarf. We'll all be homeless Oculus junkies lying around in alley ways.

This is the thing. I can only imagine what would happen if, instead of plopping on the couch and sticking on DayZ (or whatever) on the laptop while the missus watches TV, I went into a helmeted cocoon world where I was incommunicado for who knows how long.

I suspect I'd soon be looking to the Rift to keep me warm in bed at night, and it would be found wanting.

Nody

ShadowHearth wrote: »

That actually really really puts me in a mood for some Red Dwarf marathon lol!

It's Friday; order in 10 portions of Chicken Vindaloo and stack up the beer to have a wonderful weekend :P

Deano7788

Xenji wrote: »

You can play the online mode on your Wii U.

Are you sure? I know you could with 3 Ultimate but I haven't seen anything saying that for 4, just that there will be 3DS online play now.

CiDeRmAn

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Oh **** son, I do! I cant wait until I look like a jack ass 6 hours a day with some stuff on my face. The price of looking dumb is well worth VR.
After trying out Oculus, I just cant wait for proper consumer version.

Yep,
We all look dumb playing a Virtual Boy but, let me tell you, it's tons of fun.
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And makes you go blind.... maybe....

ShadowHearth

well, feck you guys. I am watching Red Dwarf now.... I find it a bit silly that UK Netflix does not have Red Dwarf, but American one does... And we know how **** american Red Dwarf Pilot was...

Xenji

Deano7788 wrote: »

Are you sure? I know you could with 3 Ultimate but I haven't seen anything saying that for 4, just that there will be 3DS online play now.

Kaname Fujioka said they were hoping to implement the feature again for MH4.

tok9

tok9 wrote: »

I just don't think you can show much regarding VR. Clearly, neither are coming out till late 2015 at the earliest. I genuinely can't believe we're still waiting on the Rift consumer version. It's feels like it's been around forever at this stage.

Think I'll go to Eurogamer expo here and hope Rift is playable again and Morpheus is playable. Would be very happy with that.

London this year?

tok9

M!Ck^ wrote: »

London this year?

Ya it's on here every year. Looks like it's called EGX now and all the damn early bird tickets are already gone!

tok9

tok9 wrote: »

Ya it's on here every year. Looks like it's called EGX now and all the damn early bird tickets are already gone!

Unlucky, would be class to go. Considering I may be in London at that time.

tok9

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Unlucky, would be class to go. Considering I may be in London at that time.

Sorry, no idea why I said early bird. All the early morning tickets are sold. So that opens at 10 and there is less of a crowd inside queueing for things.

Most other tickets are available and I'll probably pick up the day one which opens at 11 but the queues are huge in there.

Might try and go for 2 days and take my time in there.

Overheal

VR is going to take a long time to develop for obvious reasons but the interview linked to in the no mans sky thread has rift talking about it themselves briefly: it's more than just a peripheral, you want the tech not to just feel like a gimmicky add on, but a new way to play the game; even integral. As such you spend so many years developing and fine tuning the hardware and then once Dev kits are unleashed it can take multiple years before enough devs have finished projects to say ok it's time to drop this in the wild. If you drop it early with no games support or not enough of it then it will be as anti climatic as leap motion controllers

Star Lord

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I suspect I'd soon be looking to the Rift to keep me warm in bed at night, and it would be found wanting.

Time to fire up that "special" simulator, and hope that Facebook doesn't automatically post that you're "playing" it...

CiDeRmAn

DamoElDiablo wrote: »

Time to fire up that "special" simulator, and hope that Facebook doesn't automatically post that you're "playing" it...

Facebook relationship status will have to include "abusing self wearing VR goggles", or is that simply "it's complicated"?

Manic Moran

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

The thing about VR systems is, while they seem cool, I just can't really imagine myself ever sitting on the couch with a helmet on.

One small stand was displaying what can only be described as a 360degree treadmill for use with VR goggles. I'm not sure I much liked the system, but it was interesting to look at.

Overheal

Manic Moran wrote: »

One small stand was displaying what can only be described as a 360degree treadmill for use with VR goggles. I'm not sure I much liked the system, but it was interesting to look at.

I've seen VR in malls since the 90s. Wanted to try it but I only had $10 (thats all Mom gave me to spend) and it was 10 minutes of that, or a ripcord-launch helicopter.

....ironically, the helicopter itself lasted only 10 minutes: we launched it in the mall parking lot and it crashed spectacularly on the asphalt.

But yeah the VR also had a tread mill and you think to yourself yeah, VR is only going to work seated with a control. Full body motion isn't going to work. Even when you look at cartoons/anime that go all-out trying to make realistic looking VR/Battlesuit interfaces, theres just no way to do full motion. Titans, Gundams, all driven by pedals and throttles. Yer pilot is not in there doing a 5k.

CastorTroy

This is what represents VR to me

Just waiting on holosuites/decks.

Magill

Full VR, would work in a kind of lazer tag environment. Long way off obviously but im sure in time, as long as R&D keeps invested it'll get there.

Check this blog from a developer that was at Valve's headquarters for some dev day or something. Pretty interesting... sounds amazing.


http://vimeo.com/85325118

Benzino

Surprised to hear nothing on H1Z1, didn't they say there was only be an alpha pretty soon?

Varik

Benzino wrote: »

Surprised to hear nothing on H1Z1, didn't they say there was only be an alpha pretty soon?

Hear what, they live steam it almost daily and the devs are constantly answering questioning.

Benzino

Varik wrote: »

Hear what, they live steam it almost daily and the devs are constantly answering questioning.

Well information about the alpha that is meant to be coming out soon. Also, not everybody follows or is aware of their twitch, E3 was a good place to showcase it to the masses, just surprised it wasn't even mentioned.

Gunmonkey

Had heard rumours Guerrilla Games new RPG for the PS4 was gonna be shown but not a peep on that either. Guess Sony is still holding a few cards close to their chests.

tok9

Gunmonkey wrote: »

Had heard rumours Guerrilla Games new RPG for the PS4 was gonna be shown but not a peep on that either. Guess Sony is still holding a few cards close to their chests.

They said it was too early to show the week before e3. I guess it might show up at gamescom.

Benzino

tok9 wrote: »

They said it was too early to show the week before e3. I guess it might show up at gamescom.

So they are definitely working on an RPG? Interesting!

F1ngers

Benzino wrote: »

Surprised to hear nothing on H1Z1, didn't they say there was only be an alpha pretty soon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq9ZGGz1S8M

Shiminay

Spotted this on Imgur and thought it was worth sharing.

miju

Somehow those pie charts will be MS fanboys too

Timmyctc

miju wrote: »

Somehow those pie charts will be MS fanboys too

Not really. The only thing in that chart that is a positive for MS is the Release Date stat. Most of the stats are really superficial. The exclusive stat is slightly in PS favour (Nintendo aside as they don't do 3rd party) So if an MS fan was using that as a stick to beat anyone with it would be pointless as it basically showed... well, nothing really :P

Also theres no infographic for "Quality of title announced"

Penn

Exactly. It doesn't matter how many games are shooters, exclusives, gameplay trailers etc, because it's far too subjective. PS4 having more shooting games is a good thing if you prefer shooting games and a bad thing if you don't.

What it really boils down to is what games you want to play the most. And for me personally, not being a Nintendo/Mario/Zelda/SSB fan, the clear winner in terms of the games that I want to play the most, was Ubisoft (minus Just Dance and the Kinect fitness game obviously).

Star Lord

I'm just wondering which of the Nintendo reveals were counted as "nothing like gameplay"?

tok9

E3 related.

Konami are going to show the MGS5 Demo during this broadcast and it is in English (when the demo starts)

http://www.vg247.com/2014/06/19/metal-gear-solid-5-the-phantom-pain-ps4-live-here/

Fawk Nin

DamoElDiablo wrote: »

I'm just wondering which of the Nintendo reveals were counted as "nothing like gameplay"?

Star Fox? Possibly Zelda?

Captain Chaos

Fawk Nin wrote: »

Star Fox? Possibly Zelda?

Star Fox just is not ready and far to early to show anything other than game concept.
Zelda is another thing, it looks amazing if that is the quality of the game engine when it ships. Don't know if or how they managed to squeeze that eye candy out of the WiiU at that scale.

Fawk Nin

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Star Fox just is not ready and far to early to show anything other than game concept.
Zelda is another thing, it looks amazing if that is the quality of the game engine when it ships. Don't know if or how they managed to squeeze that eye candy out of the WiiU at that scale.

I agree, I'm just saying what the charts might be referencing.

Deano7788

Time spent on amiibo and robot chicken stuff maybe

CiDeRmAn

Deano7788 wrote: »

Time spent on amiibo and robot chicken stuff maybe

I think Amiibo counts as gameplay, or at least gameplay related.

tok9

Here is MGS5:The Phantom Pain demo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XULJxtkmuM4

Deano7788

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I think Amiibo counts as gameplay, or at least gameplay related.

I'd think so too but I'm not sure how the site divided it up and it seemed high without it.

Shiminay

The one thing those graphs do show is exactly how determined MS were to have a good showing this year - I think we can probably agree it wasn't bad at all and the slew of indie stuff they showed us resulted in the most interest for me I think.