new motorway? E55 million?

Graces7

caught something on the news here yday, or was it a mirage...thought ireland was broke...all to save 20 mins on a journey:rolleyes:

Tefral

Graces7 wrote: »

caught something on the news here yday, or was it a mirage...thought ireland was broke...all to save 20 mins on a journey:rolleyes:

Its not just about the time you save though. Motorways are statistically safer to travel on, so if it save a few lives over the years its been worth it IMO.

Gmol

You post a story that you may or may not have imagined but that's all ok cos the raised eyebrow smilie is at the end
carry on

Graces7

cronin_j wrote: »

Its not just about the time you save though. Motorways are statistically safer to travel on, so if it save a few lives over the years its been worth it IMO.

55 million! on a road when health service cuts are probably causing deaths and certainly suffering...

danniemcq

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/550m-toll-free-motorway-to-be-built-between-gort-and-tuam-629237.html

Links are awful handy.

And it will save more than 20 mins at times as i have been stuck on a bus for 2 hours outside Clairegalway before, horrible bottleneck that I can only imagine will get worse and worse.

Also make the route safer and less heavy traffic through towns.

TimeToShine

Graces7 wrote: »

55 million! on a road when health service cuts are probably causing deaths and certainly suffering...

550 million actually. Does that infuriate you?

Duiske

Graces7 wrote: »

55 million! on a road when health service cuts are probably causing deaths and certainly suffering...

Only new motorway I've heard mentioned recently is the one in Galway, think it bypasse's Tuam. And the cost is €550m. This one.

Graces7

Duiske wrote: »

Only new motorway I've heard mentioned recently is the one in Galway, think it bypasse's Tuam. And the cost is €550m.

working one handed on an aged machine with miminal connection speed so it nice when folk are kind like this

comongethappy

What is the point in dismissing every cent of government expenditure with the tired "how many hospital beds" logic.

Duiske

TimeToShine wrote: »

550 million actually. Does that infuriate you?

Infuriometer readings have just increased by a factor of 10. She's gonna blow, Captain.

Valetta

Roads are good.

It's capital expenditure so cannot be compared to hospital beds, which are closed due to a lack of funds for current expenditure.

The Backwards Man

If you were in distress two kilometres from the lights at Claregalway at 8am on a weekday morning and urgently needed to get to UHG, 550million might start to seem a whole lot cheaper.

Riskymove

Valetta wrote: »

Roads are good.

It's capital expenditure so cannot be compared to hospital beds, which are closed due to a lack of funds for current expenditure.

also the project is aprt of the Stimulus Package a large amout of the funding comes from investment like the European Investment Bank etc

Maybe it'll help get people to hospital quicker and save their life.

*nods*

Brendan Flowers

Graces7, I think you forgot to mention in your OP the number of jobs this project will create...

Brendan Flowers

Brendan Flowers wrote: »

Graces7, I think you forgot to mention in your OP the number of jobs this project will create...

her computer is old goddammit :rolleyes:

SEPT 23 1989

The one decent legacy of the boom was the new roads

Sir Arthur Daley

Will there be a toll on this new motorway?

Graces7

Brendan Flowers wrote: »

Graces7, I think you forgot to mention in your OP the number of jobs this project will create...

not at all...my point was that everyone i claiming poverty in ireland and then this splurge...not infuriated just if there is so much money flying around

credibility is stretched. again

Graces7

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

Will there be a toll on this new motorway?

they say no.

comongethappy

Graces7 wrote: »

not at all...my point was that everyone i claiming poverty in ireland and then this splurge...not infuriated just if there is so much money flying around

credibility is stretched. again

Is "everyone" the government?

Graces7

Graces7 wrote: »

not at all...my point was that everyone i claiming poverty in ireland and then this splurge...not infuriated just if there is so much money flying around

credibility is stretched. again

I'm not claiming poverty.

I'm glad to see my taxes going toward infrastructure.

Graces7

comongethappy wrote: »

What is the point in dismissing every cent of government expenditure with the tired "how many hospital beds" logic.

hardly cents and if you were waiting months for a bed...

humanji

If we shut down the health system completely, the sick will die off and we'll save enough to tarmac the entire country. It'll make travelling around so much easier. And there'll be plenty of parking too.

SouthTippBass

Gmol wrote: »

You post a story that you may or may not have imagined but that's all ok cos the raised eyebrow smilie is at the end
carry on

That's the roll eyes smilie.

Graces7

over and out on this thread from me as clearly seeing why ireland in in the toilet...for the elucidation....the whole thing is hypocritical and obscene

REXER

Deleted User wrote: »

Maybe it'll help get people to hospital quicker and save their life.

*nods*

Or possibly hasten their demise?

awec

comongethappy wrote: »

What is the point in dismissing every cent of government expenditure with the tired "how many hospital beds" logic.

There is none.

Healthcare is a financial black hole. No matter how much money you throw at it will never be enough. Healthcare also happens to be one of those things people think about emotionally rather than objectively.

You have to draw a line somewhere.

Fratton Fred

Much better idea than spending €35million on a library.

TwoShedsJackson

It's not just one person being saved 20 minutes though, it's most everyone - it adds up, and also reduces the risks of fatalities etc. Anyway, shouldn't you be ranting about your landlord or something?? I hope they put this motorway through your back garden.

topper75

Yeah you are right Graces7 in that there is money available that they are not broadcasting. However they ought not be wasteful. Motorways in the right places (anyone who lives in the west will tell you this one definitely is) are platforms for growth and efficiency. I'm happy to see money going on this, or even see us borrow for this. Motorway network to date has been excessively radial. Our 2nd,3rd, and 4th cities need an interconnect worthy of a progressive economy.

The health thing on the other hand - it already forms the bulk of public spending. The priority has to be reform (consultants' silly pay, excess admin/health worker ratio, etc.) before throwing more money at it to tackle the trollley in corridor issues.

crockholm

Well congrats to the beleaguered Citizens of those Towns,however,if we were to spend 550 million on a motorway,should we not prioritise linking Cork to Limerick? No disrespect to the good folk of Galway.

Davarus Walrus

To cause some genuine outrage, a visibly drunk Minister James Reilly should announce that he intends to close down all 'shítty useless hospitals in rural backwaters where you'd be better off dead' and force the patients to work on the building of this road.

Fozzie Bear

Have you rang Joe yet? Ring him for the love of God, ring him!


Do you drive this route regularly? I'm going to guess no.

First its €550 million, not 55 million. 300 million of that is funded by the Europen Investment Bank and private investors.

It will create 500+ new jobs and pump badly needed millions into the local economies along the route plus the new PAYE/PRSI and VAT payments back to the government. (Spend money to make money?!?)

It will bypass 6 Towns/Villages plus Galway city and I can tell you now it will knock a hell of a lot more than 20 minutes off the Journey from Tuam to Gort. Especially during rush hour. You can spend up to 30 minutes+ just getting through Claregalway village right now at rush hour.

It is long over due and will make life a lot easier for 1000's of citizens and businesses in the West and return Villages like Ardrahan and Kilcolgan back to the locals.

Kermit.de.frog

That's a big construction job boost for the west.

Sir Arthur Daley

crockholm wrote: »

Well congrats to the beleaguered Citizens of those Towns,however,if we were to spend 550 million on a motorway,should we not prioritise linking Cork to Limerick? No disrespect to the good folk of Galway.

Cork will get their motorway soon enough, this motorway is more wanted.

fleet_admiral

they'd do better spending it on public transport. the dart underground and metro north are desperately needed

danniemcq

Fozzie Bear wrote: »

Have you rang Joe yet? Ring him for the love of God, ring him!


Do you drive this route regularly? I'm going to guess no.

First its €550 million, not 55 million. 300 million of that is funded by the Europen Investment Bank and private investors.

It will create 500+ new jobs and pump badly needed millions into the local economies along the route plus the new PAYE/PRSI and VAT payments back to the government. (Spend money to make money?!?)

It will bypass 6 Towns/Villages plus Galway city and I can tell you now it will knock a hell of a lot more than 20 minutes off the Journey from Tuam to Gort. Especially during rush hour. You can spend up to 30 minutes+ just getting through Claregalway village right now at rush hour.

It is long over due and will make life a lot easier for 1000's of citizens and businesses in the West and return Villages like Ardrahan and Kilcolgan back to the locals.

Hey, you and your logic aren't welcome in this thread, next thing you'll be saying that the improved links to Shannon airport will help investment in Galway and Mayo

Micky Dolenz

Money spent on infrastructure is money well spent although the price can be debated. I know a few lads who'd do it for half that.

danniemcq

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Money spent on infrastructure is money well spent although the price can be debated. I know a few lads who'd do it for half that.

I know a few lads that'll set it on fire so we can claim insurance on it then for original quote.

Micky Dolenz

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Money spent on infrastructure is money well spent although the price can be debated. I know a few lads who'd do it for half that.

Yeh but will they know which way is south and which way is west?

The Backwards Man

fleet_admiral wrote: »

they'd do better spending it on public transport. the dart underground and metro north are desperately needed

Yeah, the next time I have to take someone from Malin Head to the Oncology Dept in Galway we'll take the DART!

danniemcq

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeh but will they know which way is south and which way is west?

stuff like that doesn't matter, sure I have the north to the east and am in the north despite being in the south

danniemcq

danniemcq wrote: »

stuff like that doesn't matter, sure I have the north to the east and am in the north despite being in the south

But what if the signs are pointing the wrong way?

We'll be sorry we don't have more hospital beds then, so we will.

danniemcq

Deleted User wrote: »

But what if the signs are pointing the wrong way?

We'll be sorry we don't have more hospital beds then, so we will.

what if we equip hospital beds with engines and use them as cars?

cheaper than a car and we can then use all the cars as hospital beds, thats millions of new beds and each one would be nice and private and could be outside of current buildings meaning less costs for expansions

danniemcq

danniemcq wrote: »

what if we equip hospital beds with engines and use them as cars?

cheaper than a car and we can then use all the cars as hospital beds, thats millions of new beds and each one would be nice and private and could be outside of current buildings meaning less costs for expansions

Ooooorr, everyone can just get health insurance and get access to private health care, then we would have more money to spend on roads \o/

danniemcq

Deleted User wrote: »

Ooooorr, everyone can just get health insurance and get access to private health care, then we would have more money to spend on roads \o/

Thats communist talk that

danniemcq

danniemcq wrote: »

Thats communist talk that

Do you even pay road tax?

From someone living on that side of the country the motorway is needed.

The whole country should be connected by Motorways this day and age in fairness.

Getting there slowly

floggg

Graces7 wrote: »

over and out on this thread from me as clearly seeing why ireland in in the toilet...for the elucidation....the whole thing is hypocritical and obscene

I am equally outraged. I can't believe this.

The country's economy is struggling. How dare the spend money on a road building project that will create jobs, reduce travel times and transportation costs, facilitate investment in under developed regions, and boost the local (and by implication national) economy.

There are people on hospital waiting lists and trolleys. How dare the government spend money on projects which will boost the country's finances in the long run and help us pay for those hospital beds.

rarnes1

rarnes1 wrote: »

Getting there slowly

Pun intended?