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Breaking News: John O'Donovan Injured During Peaceful Protest Mod Warning #146

  • 30-04-2014 10:06am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭


    Well-known local activist John O'Donovan has been injured by Irish Water thugs while on a peaceful protest opposing the installation of water meters. He was barely able to talk to Neil Prendeville (live on Red FM) due to his injuries and a subsequent panic attack. An ambulance is speeding en route and it is not known what (if any) criminal charges will follow. Stay tuned to Red FM and 96FM (and possibly others) for updates from John.

    I think this one will run and run.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭Eurovisionmad


    *yawn* Wouldn't we all love to be able to stand outside our houses in the sunshine during the working day, stopping other people doing their job...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    It's now in three threads, John the Martyr. I understand a picture in on FB of the victim being taken away by HSE ambulanceman


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,405 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I'd love to know what his injuries turn out to be and how he was actually hurt but I guess we will never get a credible account of it.

    I suspect that if there was no protest an ambulance would not have been required to treat the injury. Could be wrong on that, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭Eurovisionmad


    I'd love to know what his injuries turn out to be and how he was actually hurt but I guess we will never get a credible account of it.

    I suspect that if there was no protest an ambulance would not have been required to treat the injury. Could be wrong on that, though.

    Exactly, like if he *really* needed an ambulance would he have rang into the Neil Predeville while waiting for it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Exactly, like if he *really* needed an ambulance would he have rang into the Neil Predeville while waiting for it?

    Neil actually asked him [live on air] if he really needed the ambulance as if one comes for him, someone else will be left waiting.

    Our martyr replied that he did need the ambulance as he's after suffering a panic attack now too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Hardly breaking news


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,431 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    panic attack jaysus...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    panic attack jaysus...

    Show him my last electricity bill then he will know what a panic attack is:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭evilivor



    No that's Brian Gould - as captioned.

    This is John O'Donovan

    S67060-xlimage-R5369.jpg


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    Thanks evilivor. I thought Brian Gould was the interviewer! I hope his injuries are not serious. I also hope that the ambulance crews precious time was not wasted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,894 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    good old one sided stories, with plenty of exaggerations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭evilivor


    Thanks evilivor. I thought Brian Gould was the interviewer! I hope his injuries are not serious. I also hope that the ambulance crews precious time was not wasted.

    It's funny how these people who believe in their individual standalone rights of individual freedoms granted under Brehan Law are fierce quick to call a state supplied ambulance.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Just heard he has been assassinated but should make a full recovery for the 6-1 News tonight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,405 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    byronbay2 wrote: »
    Well-known local activist John O'Donovan has been injured by Irish Water thugs while on a peaceful protest opposing the installation of water meters.

    LOL it reads like a socialist version of The Sun or The Daily Mail.
    Must be all true and unbiased;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet



    I suspect that if there was no protest an ambulance would not have been required to treat the injury. Could be wrong on that, though.

    Last time I checked it was perfectly acceptable to protest peacefully in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭evilivor


    I'm sure the Zapruder film will emerge eventually.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    evilivor wrote: »
    I'm sure the Zapruder film will emerge eventually.


    Hopefully he gets billed for the ambulance call out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭evilivor


    godtabh wrote: »
    Hopefully he gets billed for the ambulance call out

    Can they deduct it from dole?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,405 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    The Muppet wrote: »
    Last time I checked it was perfectly acceptable to protest peacefully in this country.

    You missed my point.
    I was suggesting that calling the ambulance was a publicity stunt - that the same injury in another situation would not require an ambulance. I thought it was pretty clear as I wrote it. Understand now?

    It is perfectly acceptable to protest peacefully in this country.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    byronbay2 wrote: »
    Well-known local activist John O'Donovan has been injured by Irish Water thugs while on a peaceful protest opposing the installation of water meters. He was barely able to talk to Neil Prendeville (live on Red FM) due to his injuries and a subsequent panic attack. An ambulance is speeding en route and it is not known what (if any) criminal charges will follow. Stay tuned to Red FM and 96FM (and possibly others) for updates from John.

    I think this one will run and run.

    You either own nothing or are unaware of the libel/slander laws of this land, with your attitude I'm sure its the former.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    As they put his meter unit into the ground, it went back and to the left. Back....and to the left.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    my friend wrote: »
    You either own nothing or are unaware of the libel/slander laws of this land, with your attitude I'm sure its the former.


    Yeah Im sure the mods will be on a scramble there, but never let a bit of rumour, conjecture and exaggeration get in the way of a good story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    You missed my point.
    I was suggesting that calling the ambulance was a publicity stunt - that the same injury in another situation would not require an ambulance. I thought it was pretty clear as I wrote it. Understand now?

    It is perfectly acceptable to protest peacefully in this country.

    What are you basing the assumption that calling the ambulance was a publicity stunt on.


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    godtabh wrote: »
    Just heard he has been assassinated but should make a full recovery for the 6-1 News tonight

    Ah, now, don't mock. He obviously has serious issues and I don't mean objecting to water meters. (It has been reported that a METERite hit him. Any confirmation of this ground breaking/head wrecking report?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    my friend wrote: »
    You either own nothing or are unaware of the libel/slander laws of this land, with your attitude I'm sure its the former.

    you could do with some brushing up on them yourself, who exactly has been defamed by the op.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,405 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    The Muppet wrote: »
    What are you basing the assumption that calling the ambulance was a publicity stunt on.

    Just a suspicion. As I said, I could be wrong.
    A "panic attack" is hard to define and easy to fake.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    The Muppet wrote: »
    What are you basing the assumption that calling the ambulance was a publicity stunt on.

    The person involved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    godtabh wrote: »
    The person involved

    who's that ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    It has to be said but Irish Water are making a complete horlicks of this.Why dont they move on to another place for the time being?.They also dont have any spokepeople to inform the media/public about what exactly they are doing,where they will be working,for how long etc.96fm keep saying that they cannot get hold of anyone from Irish Water to make a comment.

    Its like a military operation they are carrying out.

    To start charging €360 on the first year is also disgraceful.Fair enough that we should have to pay for water but could they not have started on something like €150.

    I also cant believe that we are told it costs the government something like €1.3 billion annually to run the water system at present.Thats an astronomical figure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Just a suspicion. As I said, I could be wrong.
    A "panic attack" is hard to define and easy to fake.

    Ah Right , Would it not be better to wait and see the extent of his injuries and to see what actually happened to the man before ridiculing him publically? Defamation laws apply to everyone you know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭evilivor


    It has to be said but Irish Water are making a complete horlicks of this.Why dont they move on to another place for the time being?.They also dont have any spokepeople to inform the media/public about what exactly they are doing,where they will be working,for how long etc.96fm keep saying that they cannot get hold of anyone from Irish Water to make a comment.

    Its like a military operation they are carrying out.

    To start charging €360 on the first year is also disgraceful.Fair enough that we should have to pay for water but could they not have started on something like €150.

    I also cant believe that we are told it costs the government something like €1.3 billion annually to run the water system at present.Thats an astronomical figure.

    Charges haven't been set yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    He was talking normal enough to Prendeville after it happened, he didn't sound like a man in pain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    He was talking normal enough to Prendeville after it happened, he didn't sound like a man in pain.

    The €€€€ signs hadn't fully fallen across his eyes at that stage:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Couldn't give a toss about him. Grand for professional complainers and protestors to go around acting like martyrs when most of us are away doing a days work.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭sweetsugar


    Isn't there another person injured (irish water worker) more serious than John. Just told about this. l think it was on 103fm about it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Xantia


    I am amazed at the attitude here regarding protesting and somehow it has been connected with being on the 'dole'

    At the last protest I attended I only knew 3 people there.
    All of whom like myself are workers and do not draw any state benefit.
    Furthermore it should be realised that if there was no 'dole' in place there would be a lot more protesting.
    Also somehow that if someone is a protestor (on the dole or not) that they should not be entitled to receive medical aid in the form of an ambulance??


    There are many issues at stake here,
    The present 'government' which only enjoys a 28% popularity at present are forcing people to pay twice for water.
    The water meters use ionising radiation to measure the fluoridated water.
    The Police and the Contractors are forcing their might on residents who chose not to be intimidated.

    When has enough become enough, when will you protest?
    Is it when the water bills get too high?
    When the so called 'local property tax' (home tax) gets too high?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Xantia wrote: »
    I am amazed at the attitude here regarding protesting and somehow it has been connected with being on the 'dole'

    At the last protest I attended I only knew 3 people there.
    All of whom like myself are workers and do not draw any state benefit.
    Furthermore it should be realised that if there was no 'dole' in place there would be a lot more protesting.
    Also somehow that if someone is a protestor (on the dole or not) that they should not be entitled to receive medical aid in the form of an ambulance??


    There are many issues at stake here,
    The present 'government' which only enjoys a 28% popularity at present are forcing people to pay twice for water.
    The water meters use ionising radiation to measure the fluoridated water.
    The Police and the Contractors are forcing their might on residents who chose not to be intimidated.

    When has enough become enough, when will you protest?
    Is it when the water bills get too high?
    When the so called 'local property tax' (home tax) gets too high?

    Or the residents are stopping other citizens from going about their business on public property?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Xantia


    When 'going about their business' is the business of forcing metering on an estate that does not want it, then it is not called 'going about their business', it is called 'forcing their might' to install meters.
    Once again the sad irony seems to escape posters that we, you all of us are already paying for water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Xantia wrote: »
    I am amazed at the attitude here regarding protesting and somehow it has been connected with being on the 'dole'

    At the last protest I attended I only knew 3 people there.
    All of whom like myself are workers and do not draw any state benefit.
    Furthermore it should be realised that if there was no 'dole' in place there would be a lot more protesting.
    Also somehow that if someone is a protestor (on the dole or not) that they should not be entitled to receive medical aid in the form of an ambulance??


    There are many issues at stake here,
    The present 'government' which only enjoys a 28% popularity at present are forcing people to pay twice for water.
    The water meters use ionising radiation to measure the fluoridated water.
    The Police and the Contractors are forcing their might on residents who chose not to be intimidated.

    When has enough become enough, when will you protest?
    Is it when the water bills get too high?
    When the so called 'local property tax' (home tax) gets too high?

    Will you stop with the ionising radiation. It's non-ionising.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Xantia




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Xantia wrote: »
    When 'going about their business' is the business of forcing metering on an estate that does not want it, then it is not called 'going about their business', it is called 'forcing their might' to install meters.
    Once again the sad irony seems to escape posters that we, you all of us are already paying for water.

    *SIGH*

    The residents do not own the estate, they do not own the the water pipes and have no right whatsoever to block to block workers going about their business. Would they be as quick to stop workers if there was raw sewerage coming out of the drains?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Xantia


    Ionising or not ionising, it is still a radio transmitter.
    It can now be determined whether a resident has used water or not therefore whether they are home or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Xantia


    bumper234 wrote: »
    *SIGH*

    The residents do not own the estate, they do not own the the water pipes and have no right whatsoever to block to block workers going about their business. Would they be as quick to stop workers if there was raw sewerage coming out of the drains?

    Why do you sigh?
    The residents are paying for the water already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭hju6


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Or the residents are stopping other citizens from going about their business on public property?

    public property, keep them pesky residents away from it :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Xantia wrote: »

    I could claim you drove at me in your car, without evidence that's all it is....a claim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭Eurovisionmad


    Xantia wrote: »
    I am amazed at the attitude here regarding protesting and somehow it has been connected with being on the 'dole'

    At the last protest I attended I only knew 3 people there.
    All of whom like myself are workers and do not draw any state benefit.
    Furthermore it should be realised that if there was no 'dole' in place there would be a lot more protesting.
    Also somehow that if someone is a protestor (on the dole or not) that they should not be entitled to receive medical aid in the form of an ambulance??


    There are many issues at stake here,
    The present 'government' which only enjoys a 28% popularity at present are forcing people to pay twice for water.
    The water meters use ionising radiation to measure the fluoridated water.
    The Police and the Contractors are forcing their might on residents who chose not to be intimidated.

    When has enough become enough, when will you protest?
    Is it when the water bills get too high?
    When the so called 'local property tax' (home tax) gets too high?

    28% popularity is a lot more than the "Anti-Austerity Alliance" enjoy in the polls to start with, there's a manifest lack of popular support for these "protests", most of the time it's a travelling gang of professional moaners who are at these protests not the residents, John O'Donovan being a prime example here. Also water charges is a far more equitable way to pay for water than general taxation, for one, as someone who doesn't have access to the public water supply why should I subsidise your water when I've to pay for mine? Also why should someone who uses almost no water have to pay the same as someone who has the taps running non-stop. Simply put, if you don't want something, vote for a party that will throw it out, but the majority voted for this government and that's how democracy work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭hju6


    bumper234 wrote: »
    *SIGH*

    The residents do not own the estate, they do not own the the water pipes and have no right whatsoever to block to block workers going about their business. Would they be as quick to stop workers if there was raw sewerage coming out of the drains?

    who owns the pipes,? how did they get there,? who paid to put them in?

    who is this magical benefactor who has provided free water to us ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭Lambofdave


    Anyone complaining about having to put in a water meter go put in a well and be done with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Lambofdave wrote: »
    Anyone complaining about having to put in a water meter go put in a well and be done with it.

    That still won't work. Irish Water turned up at an estate and put water meters on the feeds.

    Thing was that estate gets it water from a communal well not the water mains. :)


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