Resistence to Irish water meter installations

renegademaster

as a lot of us are aware there's been some resistence to the installation of water meters across the country recently and it seems to be spreading.

are you going to join in when denis o briens boys call to your estate to fit water meters you never asked for?

wazky

I'm am going to be outraged!

Because I have my own well

kneemos

Pay for water or pay through extra tax.Pay you will.

Uriel.

No I won't join in and with a bit of luck anyone interfering will be arrested, or failing that will not have a meter installed and will be fixed a substantial standing charge instead.

flutered

yes they will not enter unless they can pacify my security personell, which i doubt, funnily enough i remember drawing water for the house, for both cooking and drinking, i paid to have one of my supplies installed, the other supply i recieved from a kind neighbour, who over turned the request from his boss who refused me in writing.

ryan101

Waste of time.

Fiasco Phil's cronies will be very wealthy.

ryan101

kneemos wrote: »

Pay for water or pay through extra tax.Pay you will.

We already pay the extra tax, and have done so for years. What have to pay for now is SCAMA etc.

Roger Hassenforder

renegademaster wrote: »

as a lot of us are aware there's been some resistence to the installation of water meters across the country recently and it seems to be spreading.

are you going to join in when denis o briens boys call to your estate to fit water meters you never asked for?

"we did"; "we" elected Fine Gael

Seaneh

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

"we did"; "we" elected Fine Gael

Was not in their election campaign to install water meters and start charging for water directly.

kneemos

The Troike brought in water charges,no government would ever have done it.

Banjo String

Uriel. wrote: »

No I won't join in and with a bit of luck anyone interfering will be arrested, or failing that will not have a meter installed and will be fixed a substantial standing charge instead.

I propose a tax on KY jelly.

Lot of posters seem happy to bend over and just take it up the rear. You're already paying for your water each time you are taxed on your income, and the vat increases we have been subjected to.

80odd million on consultants.
2000 staff, not only not needed, but contracted for the next twelve years.

Give me a fcuking break please.

Jobs for the boys ****. Same old same old.

ryan101

Banjo String wrote: »

I propose a tax on KY jelly.

Lot of posters seem happy to bend over and just take it up the rear.

You've been talking it up the rear a long time, you'll continue to, and you'll like it.
Fiasco Phil and his cronies are still horny, and they'll remain horny for some time to come.

MS.ing

of course, what could possibly be more productive than shaking your fists at labourers putting in water meters "shoot the messenger joe shoot the messenger!"

ryan101

MS.ing wrote: »

of course, what could possibly be more productive than shaking your fists at labourers putting in water meters "shoot the messenger joe shoot the messenger!"

Better still the private company gets to claim for delays from the taxpayer to screw us even more.

renegademaster

MS.ing wrote: »

of course, what could possibly be more productive than shaking your fists at labourers putting in water meters "shoot the messenger joe shoot the messenger!"

no it's to show the boys that the people will resist the meters. the labourers are their own worst enemies at times. there's videos and photos doing the rounds showing what the "innocent" labourers think of people exercising their rights to resist the water meters

The Backwards Man

I'll be making them tea and scones.

The installers that is, not the protestors.

MS.ing

renegademaster wrote: »

no it's to show the boys that the people will resist the meters. the labourers are their own worst enemies at times. there's videos and photos doing the rounds showing what the "innocent" labourers think of people exercising their rights to resist the water meters

feel free to post links to them

Arthur Beesley

renegademaster wrote: »

as a lot of us are aware there's been some resistence to the installation of water meters across the country recently and it seems to be spreading.

are you going to join in when denis o briens boys call to your estate to fit water meters you never asked for?

I wasn't aware if this.

darkpagandeath

kneemos wrote: »

The Troike brought in water charges,no government would ever have done it.

We met their targets and left the bail out without the need for charges on water ? I don't see the logic of sticking to an agreement that is no longer needed. What can the Troika do ? Nothing (Am not apposed to charges) just stating facts

MS.ing

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I'll be making them tea and scones.

The installers that is, not the protestors.

not quenching their thirst with water? Whats the reverse of irony called..

Uriel.

Seaneh wrote: »

Was not in their election campaign to install water meters and start charging for water directly.

It was in Fine Gael's election manifesto.:rolleyes:

ryan101

MS.ing wrote: »

Whats the reverse of irony called..

ynori ?

Banjo String

ryan101 wrote: »

Better still the private company gets to claim for delays from the taxpayer to screw us even more.

The tax payers are starting to show their discontent.

The local elections will be remembered as the water charge referendum. Lab face annihilation, FG have seen their support decimated to a mere point above FF. That's some achievement in fairness.

Remember a tax on childrens shoes brought down FG/Lab before.

Uriel.

Banjo String wrote: »

I propose a tax on KY jelly.

Lot of posters seem happy to bend over and just take it up the rear. You're already paying for your water each time you are taxed on your income, and the vat increases we have been subjected to.

80odd million on consultants.
2000 staff, not only not needed, but contracted for the next twelve years.

Give me a fcuking break please.

Jobs for the boys ****. Same old same old.

Can I get a gold watch too? I pay taxes, surely I am entitled to a gold watch?

Irrespective of the economic circumstances a water charge on per use basis makes perfect sense and I support it. We need to move further away from general taxation.

ryan101

Uriel. wrote: »

Can I get a gold watch too? I pay taxes, surely I am entitled to a gold watch?

Irrespective of the economic circumstances a water charge on per use basis makes perfect sense and I support it. We need to move further away from general taxation.

But were not moving away from it, and we never will, that's the laugh.

Banjo String

Uriel. wrote: »

It was in Fine Gael's election manifesto.:rolleyes:

They opposed a property tax in their pre election manifesto.

Uriel.

Banjo String wrote: »

The tax payers are starting to show their discontent.

The local elections will be remembered as the water charge referendum. Lab face annihilation, FG have seen their support decimated to a mere point above FF. That's some achievement in fairness.

Remember a tax on childrens shoes brought down FG/Lab before.

True. We really should have voted in that other party. You know, the one that said they'd cut taxes and increase services.

zenno

It's time for all Irish citizens to get out there and use their right to protest against another secondary forced tax. Show these government scumbags a massive repulsion to this unjust secondary tax. The bastards will get the picture if enough folk protest.

Sit back and do nothing and be out of pocket again and again, what will they bring in next if they see us all lay back and take it.

My car is parked over the water-hole and will stay there. Any crap from them and I'll stand and sleep in the fecking hole till they go.

hatrickpatrick

To those who get water from private wells, you realize you'll still be charged a fixed standing charge even if you never use a drop of water from Irish Water?

How can this possibly not piss you off?

Uriel.

Banjo String wrote: »

They opposed a property tax in their pre election manifesto.

A majority Government was not elected

suicide_circus

As a free son of Hibernia, I do not recognise the authority of water meters to calculate water usage.

dxhound2005

zenno wrote: »

It's time for all Irish citizens to get out there and use their right to protest against another secondary forced tax. Show these government scumbags a massive repulsion to this unjust secondary tax. The bastards will get the picture if enough folk protest.

Sit back and do nothing and be out of pocket again and again, what will they bring in next if they see us all lay back and take it.

My car is parked over the water-hole and will stay there. Any crap from them and I'll stand and sleep in the fecking hole till they go.

What do you do when you have to drive the car? Like to go to one of these mass protests you are organising.

_Brian

renegademaster wrote: »

as a lot of us are aware there's been some resistence to the installation of water meters across the country recently and it seems to be spreading.

are you going to join in when denis o briens boys call to your estate to fit water meters you never asked for?

We have our own well..
We've been paying for water all along... ye guys are just catching up !!

Uriel.

ryan101 wrote: »

But were not moving away from it, and we never will, that's the laugh.

Well had a budget deficit of what, €11 billion last year.
If you have a major plan to fix things, please tell.

The Government has already signaled some downward adjustments in tax this year. Maybe we are starting the move. Who knows.

Banjo String

Uriel. wrote: »

Can I get a gold watch too? I pay taxes, surely I am entitled to a gold watch?

Too stupid to justify replying to. Maybe seemed funnier in your head.

Uriel. wrote: »

Irrespective of the economic circumstances a water charge on per use basis makes perfect sense and I support it. We need to move further away from general taxation.

The 3 out of four houses that will not be metered when this rolls out, and Prob for the next 2/3 years will be paying on a per usage basis?

OK....... Let me know how that one works?

Chinasea

Go and collect rain water if it's all so easy. Thats free.

mickydoomsux

ryan101 wrote: »

But were not moving away from it, and we never will, that's the laugh.

Why does it bother you? With a statement like that, you can obviously see the future and should be a billionaire at this stage as a result.

Uriel.

Banjo String wrote: »

Too stupid to justify replying to. Maybe seemed funnier in your head.



The 3 out of four houses that will not be metered when this rolls out, and Prob for the next 2/3 years will be paying on a per usage basis?

OK....... Let me know how that one works?

Rolls out being the important phrase. To expect a 100% hit rate at the stroke of midnight on a given date is stupid.

zenno

dxhound2005 wrote: »

What do you do when you have to drive the car? Like to go to one of these mass protests you are organising.

The car will not be moved, it stays there. I will just use the other car.

Banjo String

Uriel. wrote: »

Rolls out being the important phrase. To expect a 100% hit rate at the stroke of midnight on a given date is stupid.

So it's not on a pay per use basis then?

It's a tax grab. Call a spade a spade FFS.

renegademaster

renegademaster wrote: »

no it's to show the boys that the people will resist the meters. the labourers are their own worst enemies at times. there's videos and photos doing the rounds showing what the "innocent" labourers think of people exercising their rights to resist the water meters

MS.ing wrote: »

feel free to post links to them

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=56c_1398275919

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7de_1398299957

Sh1tbag OToole

Banjo String wrote: »

I propose a tax on KY jelly.

Lot of posters seem happy to bend over and just take it up the rear. You're already paying for your water each time you are taxed on your income, and the vat increases we have been subjected to.

80odd million on consultants.
2000 staff, not only not needed, but contracted for the next twelve years.

Give me a fcuking break please.

Jobs for the boys ****. Same old same old.

Now that the recession might be coming to an end years after in every other place everyone is mad to hop out and defend the boys in power

Uriel.

Banjo String wrote: »

So it's not on a pay per use basis then?

It's a tax grab. Call a spade a spade FFS.

Will anyone pay on a pay per use basis? Is 25% the final target?

Davarus Walrus

We've the only socialists in Europe who oppose water charges. Funny old business. It's the usual 'world-class services, but I don't want to pay for them' spiel that seems to be the mantra of a certain proportion of the electorate. The 'Gubberment' should have invested in magic beans to grow money trees.

Uriel.

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

The 'Gubberment' should have invested in magic beans to grow money trees.

It really should have, we could have been rich and had a new stadium or something.

Sh1tbag OToole

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

We've the only socialists in Europe who oppose water charges. Funny old business. It's the usual 'world-class services, but I don't want to pay for them' spiel that seems to be the mantra of a certain proportion of the electorate. The 'Gubberment' should have invested in magic beans to grow money trees.

The government doesnt need silly trees it can just print some more, well it could until they joined the EU

Banjo String

Uriel. wrote: »

Will anyone pay on a pay per use basis? Is 25% the final target?

One out of every four households will have a meter installed by the time Irish Water start billing homeowners.

I'll repeat. One out of every four. How the hell can you say with a straight face that people will be charged for what they use

Maybe Eircom should start charging 3/4 of its customers an estimated bill too without knowing what destinations the customer has been calling, or for the duration of a call.

Seriously.

Valetta

renegademaster wrote: »

no it's to show the boys that the people will resist the meters. the labourers are their own worst enemies at times. there's videos and photos doing the rounds showing what the "innocent" labourers think of people exercising their rights to resist the water meters

You have no right to illegally prevent agents of the government going about their lawful business.

Uriel.

Banjo String wrote: »

One out of every four households will have a meter installed by the time Irish Water start billing homeowners.

I'll repeat. One out of every four. How the hell can you say with a straight face that people will be charged for what they use

Maybe Eircom should start charging 3/4 of its customers an estimated bill too without knowing what destinations the customer has been calling, or for the duration of a call.

Seriously.

so what you're saying is that people won't be charged on per use basis?
Does your 3 out of 4 figure relate to all households or just those on the public mains?
Your Eircom example is not at all comparable.

I am not really sure what you want? You're not happy about paying water charges, I get that.

Uriel.

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

The government doesnt need silly trees it can just print some more, well it could until they joined the EU

Maybe we should pull out?

Jonny7

Banjo String wrote: »

One out of every four households will have a meter installed by the time Irish Water start billing homeowners.

I'll repeat. One out of every four. How the hell can you say with a straight face that people will be charged for what they use

Maybe Eircom should start charging 3/4 of its customers an estimated bill too without knowing what destinations the customer has been calling, or for the duration of a call.

Seriously.

Most countries in the world pay for water, either through a meter, or a system based on estimated usage - which can be challenged as soon as a meter is installed

You've had your free water for years, stop complaining