Foreigners - are we obsessed with them?

Pat Mustard

There were so many threads about foreigners, it was a case of if you can't beat them, join them.

Are we completely obsessed with foreigners? Do they buy all the chickens? Do they eat dog or swan? What attracts them to Ireland of the hundred thousand welcomes?

I think it might be the weather.

Lenin Skynard

Especially foreign royals.

Mrs Garth Brooks

What about the foreign Irish.

czechlin

The Mustard wrote: »

I think it might be the weather.

Finally somebody has nailed it, it took a while!
Yep, it's the weather! Especially the sideways rain, we're lovin' it

Pat Mustard

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

What about the foreign Irish.

Sure we write songs about their emigration. Trasna na dtonnta, and all that craic. It was great when we could lament them properly before. Now they're back every second weekend on Ryanair.

Mrs Garth Brooks

My mother had a rant about the foreigners here last week. They were eastern european.

I tried to explain to her that her babies are more foreign in australia than the eastern european are here. She didnt get it.

How long has it been? Time to get over it.

Peregrine

The Mustard wrote: »

Do they buy all the chickens?.

*stops eating fillet roll and looks up*

What?

Don't you dare make me feel guilty! :pac:

kneemos

Slightly embarrassing how better looking they are.

Molester Stallone

kneemos wrote: »

Slightly embarrassing how better looking they are.

Youve never seen a Ferengi up close I take it!

czechlin

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

*stops eating fillet roll and looks up*

What?

Don't you dare make me feel guilty! :pac:

I know right! I was going to make chicken for dinner :mad:

Pat Mustard

kneemos wrote: »

Slightly embarrassing how better looking they are.

New recruits for the genepool!

(The casting couch is now open).

Donkey Oaty

The Mustard wrote: »

What attracts them to Ireland of the hundred thousand welcomes?

In the case of Newstalk's Dil Wickremasinghe it was "Riverdance".

This sounds like a joke, but it is absolutely true.

Graces7

The Mustard wrote: »

There were so many threads about foreigners, it was a case of if you can't beat them, join them.

Are we completely obsessed with foreigners? Do they buy all the chickens? Do they eat dog or swan? What attracts them to Ireland of the hundred thousand welcomes?

I think it might be the weather.

well at first it is because the places we come from are so bad and we believe all the thousand welcomes stuff..

by the time truth dawns we have burned our boats and the places we came from have got even worse.

i beat it by naming my house grace and when i close the gate i leave ireland behind and enter the state of grace..if the pope can create an independent state .....

Fizzlesque

The Mustard wrote: »

I think it might be the weather.

czechlin wrote: »

Finally somebody has nailed it, it took a while!
Yep, it's the weather! Especially the sideways rain, we're lovin' it

Oddly enough, I was talking to a man from Venezuela the other day and he said he likes Irish weather and commented on our rain - explaining that quite often the rain here is gentle rain; tiny little drops that barely touch you, compared to the monster drops of rain that bucket down and soak you within seconds in Venezuela.

Peregrine

So, are we allowed to eat chicken now or what?

Fizzlesque wrote: »

explaining that quite often the rain here is gentle rain; tiny little drops that barely touch you, compared to the monster drops of rain that bucket down and soak you within seconds in Venezuela.

It's true. The rain here is very gentle. Where I lived, the rain physically hurts you

losthorizon

My uncle is from Barcelona and was giving out about all the foreigners living there. Strange thing is his wife (my Aunt is Irish and has been married and living over there with him for 40 years). His children are half Irish. Yet he sees no connection. Its strange, really strange.

czechlin

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

So, are we allowed to eat chicken now or what?

I hope so! I don't eat dogs or swans! :pac:

I don't mind the rain as much. I would be happier if it didn't rain so often, but that's how it is

(And I get away with wearing colourful wellies )

creolebelle

Does anyone have any links to stats regarding the amount of people who immigrate to Ireland and from what countries?
Thanks

losthorizon

creolebelle wrote: »

Does anyone have any links to stats regarding the amount of people who immigrate to Ireland and from what countries?
Thanks

http://www.cso.ie/en/media/csoie/census/documents/census2011profile6/Profile,6,Migration,and,Diversity,entire,doc.pdf

losthorizon

Actually every country seems to be represented here except Greenland, Western Sahara and North Korea

Pat Mustard

czechlin wrote: »

I hope so! I don't eat dogs or swans! :pac:

Why not? According to well-known foreigner Mel Gibson, a dog is a fine meal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8s3Q-O0-Wc

Rasheed

kneemos wrote: »

Slightly embarrassing how better looking they are.

I think this is the biggest myth of all. I have yet to find where all these mega rides of foreigners are hiding. Every country has mingers and beauts and we're the same. You'd swear the way some people go on that we're all as good looking as black bulling heifers here.

William F

losthorizon wrote: »

Actually every country seems to be represented here except Greenland, Western Sahara and North Korea

Ireland is like the Ellis Island of Europe.

OneArt

It's the same everywhere.

I find it particularly funny in Germany. Speaking English in some cities here is seen as trendy. Sometimes people will come up to my English-speaking friends and I and try and practice their English. Then they'll turn around and moan in German to their friends about people speaking Turkish on the streets and not integrating. If they were in Ireland, they'd be the same people griping about Eastern Europeans.

Donkey Oaty

losthorizon wrote: »

Actually every country seems to be represented here except Greenland, Western Sahara and North Korea

I'm not 100% sure of this, but I imagine Greenlanders would come on a Danish passport, and Sahrawis would have Moroccan one, or a 1951 refugee doc.

Anyone know for certain?

Grayson

Fizzlesque wrote: »

Oddly enough, I was talking to a man from Venezuela the other day and he said he likes Irish weather and commented on our rain - explaining that quite often the rain here is gentle rain; tiny little drops that barely touch you, compared to the monster drops of rain that bucket down and soak you within seconds in Venezuela.

I was in Venezuela and Colombia for 6 weeks in sept/oct a few years ago. the rain was as heavy as anything we get here and there was severe flooding where I was. But the rain started at 3 pm every day. Up to that point it was gloriously sunny. And it stopped at 6pm every day.
And the rain was warm, so warm. I could have showered in it.

I think I'd take sever flooding and walking around streets with water up to my knees if it was that warm.

Grayson

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

I'm not 100% sure of this, but I imagine Greenlanders would come on a Danish passport, and Sahrawis would have Moroccan one, or a 1951 refugee doc.

Anyone know for certain?

Greenland is Denmark alright. I'm pretty certain you're right about the Sahrawis too.

Pat Mustard

Rasheed wrote: »

I think this is the biggest myth of all. I have yet to find where all these mega rides of foreigners are hiding. Every country has mingers and beauts and we're the same. You'd swear the way some people go on that we're all as good looking as black bulling heifers here.

Depends. Most places have a lot of variation, to be sure. OTOH, the Swedes are incredibly good-looking.

You have to see it to believe it.

http://www.thelocal.se/discuss/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=3558

Karl Stein

Foreign people care about their pets much less than Irish people.

The Spanish are notorious for pinching friendly dogs.

Rasheed

The Mustard wrote: »

Depends. Most places have a lot of variation, to be sure. OTOH, the Swedes are incredibly good-looking.

You have to see it to believe it.

http://www.thelocal.se/discuss/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=3558

Haven't been to Sweden so can't really comment but I'm fairly well travelled and I'm mesmerised by this notion that everywhere else in the world is over run with fabulous looking people but in Ireland we all look like trolls. It's bullshiite.

hmmm

There's a small group of people who have never worked a day in their life who complain about foreigners "taking our jobs". They're noisy because they've all day to sit around posting and turning up to SWP meetings.

Jackal756

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

My mother had a rant about the foreigners here last week. They were eastern european.

I tried to explain to her that her babies are more foreign in australia than the eastern european are here. She didnt get it.

How long has it been? Time to get over it.

I think the Irish have always had a fear of outsiders not sure if it's to do with the 800 years of British rule or what but we seem to have a major bee in our bonnet about people who aren't "one of us"

Right Turn Clyde

kneemos wrote: »

Slightly embarrassing how better looking they are.

Eastern European men and women do seem to have better bodies, skin and bone structure than us Irish, but they've terrible dress sense. Seriously. It's really bad.

Karl Stein

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9OGfBGOCpk

Sunglasses Ron

losthorizon wrote: »

My uncle is from Barcelona and was giving out about all the foreigners living there. Strange thing is his wife (my Aunt is Irish and has been married and living over there with him for 40 years). His children are half Irish. Yet he sees no connection. Its strange, really strange.

I know at least four English people of Caribbean, Indian, Cypriot and Irish heritage who would rant a mile about the anti social behavior of Pakistani and Somali youths in their respective areas (misogny and Islamist extremism being the primary gripes) . Just because you have a foreign background doesn't mean you can be immune from calling it how you see it, and from what these people have told me the behaviour of some of these kids is appalling.

Not to mention that your average Eastern European in Ireland will have an even more negative view on Romas than we do.

czechlin

Karl Stein wrote: »

Foreign people care about their pets much less than Irish people.

The Spanish are notorious for pinching friendly dogs.

Bullsh1t.

Right Turn Clyde

Friendly dogs have an irrational dislike of Spaniards.

Grayson

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

I know at least four English people of Caribbean, Indian, Cypriot and Irish heritage who would rant a mile about the anti social behavior of Pakistani and Somali youths in their respective areas (misogny and Islamist extremism being the primary gripes) . Just because you have a foreign background doesn't mean you can be immune from calling it how you see it, and from what these people have told me the behaviour of some of these kids is appalling.

Not to mention that your average Eastern European in Ireland will have an even more negative view on Romas than we do.

That anti immigration party that was founded a few months ago has a dutch woman on their committee.
I do think it's ironic that an immigrant comes to ireland to complain about immigration into ireland.

Pat Mustard

Rasheed wrote: »

Haven't been to Sweden so can't really comment but I'm fairly well travelled and I'm mesmerised by this notion that everywhere else in the world is over run with fabulous looking people but in Ireland we all look like trolls. It's bullshiite.

People just say that on the internet, to be edgy.

The Swedish thing is gospel though.

Sunglasses Ron

Grayson wrote: »

That anti immigration party that was founded a few months ago has a dutch woman on their committee.
I do think it's ironic that an immigrant comes to ireland to complain about immigration into ireland.

Not if it is the wrong type of immigrant.

I wouldn't have a problem with a self made Chinese takeaway owner of 20 years standing who pays his taxes moaning that there are too many Roma gypsies in the country, as he has every right to say it. Just because one is a foreigner it doesn't make your opinion on the state of the country less valid if you have paid your dues.

czechlin

The Mustard wrote: »

Why not? According to well-known foreigner Mel Gibson, a dog is a fine meal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8s3Q-O0-Wc

Haha. Nah, I'd give that fine meal a pass. Wonder what kind of mustard did they have with it..:pac:

Right Turn Clyde

There's some proper stunners in this country. Dublin was hopping with them yesterday. As a nation we're not ugly. The only curious thing is that most of the proper hotties are rich kids. I'm not from a wealthy area, and I have to be honest, I've never seen anyone to match them where I'm from. I've heard it been put down to access to sports, dietary education, whatever. But there has to be more to it than that. I can count on one hand the number of attractive people I grew up around. The women in the surrounding private estates were, and always will be, better looking.

Pat Mustard

Right Turn Clyde wrote: »

The only curious thing is that most of the proper hotties are rich kids.

Good looking women may choose wealthier partners, producing good looking, rich offspring. I suppose.

I have no idea if wealthy women select good looking partners?

czechlin

Right Turn Clyde wrote: »

Eastern European men and women do seem to have better bodies, skin and bone structure than us Irish, but they've terrible dress sense. Seriously. It's really bad.

Yep, that is sadly true. It's improving a little bit but very slowly and it's going to take more time.

Electric Sheep

Right Turn Clyde wrote: »

There's some proper stunners in this country. Dublin was hopping with them yesterday. As a nation we're not ugly. The only curious thing is that most of the proper hotties are rich kids. I'm not from a wealthy area, and I have to be honest, I've never seen anyone to match them where I'm from. I've heard it been put down to access to sports, dietary education, whatever. But there has to be more to it than that. I can count on one hand the number of attractive people I grew up around. The women in the surrounding private estates were, and always will be, better looking.

Health clubs, dermatologists, cosmetic dentistry, cosmetic surgery and copious hair and beauty treatments all cost money. The air of confidence helps as well.

Nodin

hmmm wrote: »

There's a small group of people who have never worked a day in their life who complain about foreigners "taking our jobs". They're noisy because they've all day to sit around posting and turning up to SWP meetings.

The SWP are anti-foreigner now?

Pat Mustard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8ZJu-f-XOE

Rasheed

Electric Sheep wrote: »

Health clubs, dermatologists, cosmetic dentistry, cosmetic surgery and copious hair and beauty treatments all cost money. The air of confidence helps as well.

Go on TG4 there, 30 fine specimens and not a townie amongst them.

WilyCoyote

Just the long-legged high cheekboned ones

Colinf1212

The Mustard wrote: »

Depends. Most places have a lot of variation, to be sure. OTOH, the Swedes are incredibly good-looking.

You have to see it to believe it.

Beauty is subjective. Swedish men are stereotypically looked at as extremely feminine. Light featured men are not valued in Western society. The vast majority of successful male models all have dark features. I am struggling to even think of a successful blonde male model to be honest.

Black Irish men destroy the majority of Europe dimorphically for the most part. Sean O Pry is the top male model in the world atm for a reason.

I also prefer women with dark features and light eyes so I disagree with your *opinion" on Swedish beauty.

Pat Mustard

Colinf1212 wrote: »

I also prefer women with dark features and light eyes so I disagree with your *opinion" on Swedish beauty.

Well, it is just an opinion, of course.

Perhaps you are right in what you say about Swedish men. I hadn't given that a great deal of thought. Swedish ladies obviously go for them.:D

Black Irish men destroy the majority of Europe dimorphically for the most part.

I do not know what you mean by this.